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Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:14:00 - [91] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/10/2006 14:14:42 Originally by: Mauxir You could have used that fighting spirit before BoB bent you over and had their way with you. I've always thought of Finite Horizon as a reputable PvP corporation that doesn't smack, but apparently that isn't true anymore. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:14:00 - [92] Originally by: Mauxir You could have used that fighting spirit before BoB bent you over and had their way with you. That is highly amusing coming from someone who we actually did bend over and spank. How is SA these days? Oh yeah, you don't exist. amusing. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Scifa Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:16:00 - [93] Edited by: Scifa on 27/10/2006 14:15:58 Originally by: Dark Shikari Maybe we'd pay attention if these comments were made by someone who didn't lose the war they're commenting on. Well i really think you lost because you are now the lapdogs of BoB.
Mauxir Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:16:00 - [94] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir You could have used that fighting spirit before BoB bent you over and had their way with you. That is highly amusing coming from someone who we actually did bend over and spank. How is SA these days? Oh yeah, you don't exist. amusing. dbp Better to die than become one of your lackeys. At least we went down fighting unlike some. Some like to be *****es other dont. Simple as that.
Martinez Federation of Freedom Fighters EVE Alliance9673	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:18:00 - [95] So FIX you are saying you arent bob lapdogs? Right, keep thinking that.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:23:00 - [96] Edited by: DB Preacher on 27/10/2006 14:25:54 Originally by: Mauxir Better to die than become one of your lackeys. At least we went down fighting unlike some. Some like to be ***es other dont. Simple as that. Not really. SA hid and ran after we arrived in Stain. CODA split up after three days. FIX fought BoB for at least 3 months head on when we initially arrived in the south. They never hid, they never ran. They then fought you and the rest of CODA bandwagon for a looooong time. They never hid, they never ran until they were on the brink of being overwhelmed. So no just even attempt to pretend you are anything compared to FIX, because you are not. You are a relic of the past, bitter from your defeats throwing rocks in a glass house with no actual ability to back your words up. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto**
Ras Blumin 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:29:00 - [97] Originally by: Dark Shikari We do claim it on the map. Go into your game, hit F10, and turn on "all factions and alliances" in the sovereignty screen. It isn't that hard, folks Linkage? I honestly don't know why you bother. People will keep refering to you as lapdogs or slaves (or pets as I personally prefer) as long as you live in someone else's space with their permission. Just let it go.
Mauxir Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:29:00 - [98] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir Better to die than become one of your lackeys. At least we went down fighting unlike some. Some like to be *****es other dont. Simple as that. Not really. SA hid and ran after we arrived in Stain. CODA split up after three days. FIX fought BoB for at least 3 months head on when we initially arrived in the south. They never hid, they never ran. They then fought you and the rest of CODA bandwagon for a looooong time. So no just even attempt to pretend you are anything compared to FIX, because you are not. You are a relic of the past, bitter from your defeats throwing rocks in a glass house with no actual ability to back your words up. dbp You got one thing right we are not like FIX, no where near them tbh and I think every Stainer is damn proud not to be like FIX.
McMike Hegemonic Core	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:32:00 - [99] Quote: Go into your game, hit F10, and turn on "all factions and alliances" in the sovereignty screen. It isn't that hard, folks Yup, all 3 stations are Band of Brothers. Its obvious who runs the region and who is allowed to live in it for taxation.
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:41:00 - [100] Originally by: Audrea This is a nice summary for the uninformed.. except where you called us cowards that splinter and ran etc... We gave a good fight to BoB there, and only reason we slowly failed to hold the ground, was failure at logistics level: getting new ships and replacements wasnt organized, the forces were loosing coherence etc. Anyway its a long story and off topic, but try not to make it look as if we ran like cowards, unless you want to start a flame fest, I am sure it can be arranged Another worthwhile addendum: more than a few people were quite unhappy how certain parties decided to dragoon our attempt to finish driving FIX out of 0.0 ownership into being some grand crusade against BoB, complete with silly metaphorical glove-to-the-face-"sir-I-challenge you-to-a-duel!" forum posts. We'd always anticipated some BoB involvement in the situation, but between the logistics, the lack of willingness in most of the CODA constituents to throw down POSes in 9CG, and the fact that we succeeded in drawing down BoB's full fury by the end thanks to said stupid grandstanding...well, in Huzzah at least there had already been plans to pull back after that weekend, and the sudden, bloody developments didn't make that decision any harder. We'd thrown ourselves back into the fight much too quickly after the V2 battle with BoB (which we already had fought with heavily depleted resources), and our material endurance - dodgy at the best of times; say hello to one of Huzzah's greatest weaknesses - was in complete shambles. That said, the FIX guys get full credit for not completely fragmenting at the end and keeping a stiff upper lip throughout the entire thing - characteristically FIX, that. You guys chose to exist at all costs, and by the sound of it BoB gave you a remarkably fair deal, so all the more power to you gentlemen. You get no lasting ill-will from me. I still say you need to retake FAT from its current slumlord owners, though. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Taz Devlin Minmatar Murini Ice Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:46:00 - [101] Originally by: Mauxir Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir Better to die than become one of your lackeys. At least we went down fighting unlike some. Some like to be *****es other dont. Simple as that. Not really. SA hid and ran after we arrived in Stain. CODA split up after three days. FIX fought BoB for at least 3 months head on when we initially arrived in the south. They never hid, they never ran. They then fought you and the rest of CODA bandwagon for a looooong time. So no just even attempt to pretend you are anything compared to FIX, because you are not. You are a relic of the past, bitter from your defeats throwing rocks in a glass house with no actual ability to back your words up. dbp You got one thing right we are not like FIX, no where near them tbh and I think every Stainer is damn proud not to be like FIX. I know I have no regrets about warring with FIX on any of the occasions. My only regret is not telling BoB to stick theyr ceasefire the first time around. Hindsight is allways 20/20 Yes, yes, yes... I know, SA is dead and we can't spell.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:54:00 - [102] Originally by: Dark Shikari Come back and take Querious from us, then maybe we'll stop ignoring you. And no, BoB aint gonna stop you. Your sayin that if someone takes 9CG, which is an RKK station, BOB won't come and take it back? [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.27 14:55:00 - [103] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Mauxir You could have used that fighting spirit before BoB bent you over and had their way with you. That is highly amusing coming from someone who we actually did bend over and spank. How is SA these days? Oh yeah, you don't exist. amusing. dbp I'd love to see FIX completely wiped out, so my word will be strongly biased but... - It wasnt BoB who killed SA, it was SE. Stain being an NPC-sov region was completely against BoB's navy doctrine; no-one can kick out an alliance from NPC-sov regions unless you decide to live there, thats what SE did and they only did it for pride (muhcos respect for Shifu) since they disbanded and formed AAA right after SA dissapeared. - FIX have been the ultimate lapdogs in EVE history.. In the begining they were called QDF (Querious defence force) and lived under their supervising overlords Black Avatar who were representatives of FA. They later on traded their "freedom" with FA in exchange of backstabbing the UFS (CFS/StA/DSMA) -The war between FA and UFS began cause UFS refused to be a lapdog of FA anymore-. Not much has changed though, FA kept dictating FIX's external-politics. The true purpose of FIX was to be a buffer zone for the southern area of FA. - When BoB came into the picture there were "some" fights and after FA fell, it was obvious for FIX and BoB that FIX would serve the same purpose they did to FA, due to the regions BoB decided to live in. Once BoB saw FIX's power is wearing off, they did what had to be done. I might be biased and misinformed in some points but this is pretty much the general scheme of things. FIX has always been lapdogs.. they should be proud of what they are, they played the diplomatic game very well!
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:03:00 - [104] Originally by: Kunming Lots of blablabla... I might be biased and misinformed in some points but this is pretty much the general scheme of things. FIX has always been lapdogs.. they should be proud of what they are, they played the diplomatic game very well! What was KAOS empire? Enlighten us, please.
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:05:00 - [105] Originally by: Kunming I might be biased and misinformed Least you got something right...... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Kar'Dargo Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:05:00 - [106] Sigh, so here we go, another you suck, no you suck thread. BTW: English Bob = Best Sig ever. -----
Scifa Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:29:00 - [107] O look BoB to the rescue... Again!
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:34:00 - [108] Mods please lock this thread as it has degenterated and the original point of the thread seems lost are to have fallen upon deaf ears. snip Please don't try to troll in your sig. Please express your opinions in a polite manner -Eldo ([email protected])
Kar'Dargo Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:35:00 - [109] Originally by: Mauxir Thats cool I agree to disagree. You traded in a little freedom for a little security. If you can live with that who am I to stop you. But that road doesnt lead to higher rewards unfortunately. Higher rewards? I would say that FIX are further down the road by staying in 00 space and preserving their alliance. Along the way they seem to have made close allies with the most powerful nation in Eve, currently. I suspect that at some point FIX will be independent again, all the while rebuilding themselves from the literal brink of exctintion. From what I have seen BoB are tough yet fair opponents and enemies. A stand-up relationship is the best you can hope for. -----
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:49:00 - [110] Originally by: Scifa O look BoB to the rescue... Again! means alot from an alliance that cant hack it in 0.0.. but anyways my personal opinion is FIX fought for their right to be an 0.0 Allinace. We they got in trouble (IE: under attack by collation) Bob moved in to help an ALLIE. We made is so FIX can still stay in 0.0 where they deserve to be. That is whay Allies do for each other. I know its hard for some of you to understand but that is how it works when you have friends. agian my personal feelings in this matter.. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Joe Bloggers Caldari Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:53:00 - [111] Originally by: ponieus Originally by: Scifa O look BoB to the rescue... Again! means alot from an alliance that cant hack it in 0.0.. but anyways my personal opinion is FIX fought for their right to be an 0.0 Allinace. We they got in trouble (IE: under attack by collation) Bob moved in to help an ALLIE. We made is so FIX can still stay in 0.0 where they deserve to be. That is whay Allies do for each other. I know its hard for some of you to understand but that is how it works when you have friends. agian my personal feelings in this matter.. I heard that you guys blew up a 30bil FIX outpost egg. Were you friends before then or only after? Just an Average Joe!
Scifa Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 15:58:00 - [112] Originally by: ponieus means alot from an alliance that cant hack it in 0.0.. ermmm Yeah thats right guys we arn't in 0.0
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:06:00 - [113] I was thinking... I know OMG! BoB really haven't made much progress. I began to think that BoB may have failed in what they set out to do, or not expected to much resistance. However, I realised that I had been thinking of big alliances wars in a kind of blitzkreig sense. Forgetting, for example, SA vs CA. It went on for donkeys, everyone had a great time (yeah the smack was on a similar level to bob vs ascn but still). So despite what your all saying to eachother, I'm sure its all fun and games in the end.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:07:00 - [114] Originally by: Joe Bloggers I heard that you guys blew up a 30bil FIX outpost egg. Were you friends before then or only after? They blew up the egg after their standing reset which included Fix aswell. Fix and Bob had and have a friendship which goes beyond "+v" forged with the mutual respect fighting against each other in 9cg and later together with each other in 9cg. In short every friend of BoB gets classed a lapdog or a slave or a pet. On the otherhand alliances like G or Ascn or Imperium "do the right thing" by finding partners. The fine difference of connotation there. BoB demonized everyone else "doing it fair and square and would be stupid if they didnt". From past dealings with Fix i can only say they have been an oustanding alliance if it comes to forming agreements. Even if they just involve "who jumps in first" or "who empties the gate" in a war situation. They stand 100% to their word and dont need to tell their own members any hoax of how well a situation is. They call it like they see it which seems to be one of the main reasons they get on well with bob. Call it similar mindset or amicable similarities in their way of thinking.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:08:00 - [115] Originally by: Shin Ra I was thinking... I know OMG! BoB really haven't made much progress. I began to think that BoB may have failed in what they set out to do, or not expected to much resistance. However, I realised that I had been thinking of big alliances wars in a kind of blitzkreig sense. Forgetting, for example, SA vs CA. It went on for donkeys, everyone had a great time (yeah the smack was on a similar level to bob vs ascn but still). So despite what your all saying to eachother, I'm sure its all fun and games in the end. never exspected to ever say that but i must actually agree with you on this one
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:08:00 - [116] Originally by: LUKEC What was KAOS empire? Enlighten us, please. Sure.. Kaos Empire was formed after SE took the stations in Omist from whatever alliance lived there (sorry cant remember right now). There were 3 stations and 3 main corps left in SE (XB, Species, ADGA) each was supposed to get one of the stations and ensure its security for the alliance. Shifu decided Species was not worth the station and gave it to VVS (a newly joined russian corp back then), Cujo was really upset about it and we as ADGA also didnt appreciate this and offered both Shifu and Cujo to talk things over. It didnt work out, Shifu who took over the alliance gave 500mils to Cujo who would form a new alliance with it (Kaos Empire). We really respected Shifu as a great FC and CEO but wouldnt appreciate his ways as an alliance leader. So ADGA followed Species into Kaos Empire. We were offered some space by FE if we would help them with the campaing against NBSI and PA. FE was sick of NBSI bringing up new conflicts to their doorstep every week (since NBSI was up in Tenal while FE had to deal with the ppl with its borders to empire), and sick of PA's weak leadership. So we started small by terrorizing the spacelanes first, then an unexpected thing happened and FIVE move into Venal. FE got too scared and NAPed them immediately, while cutting off any contact with Kaos Empire. So we decided to gather up everyone and everything and move into Venal with force.. it was more of a bluff rather than a tactic. It was successful and FIVE offered us Tenal, which was perfectly fine for us considering the size of our alliance. We then went into a fullscale war with NBSI while FIVE took care of PA.. Long story short we were building up and recruiting ppl after the war, with FIVE in Venal, FE in Tribute, Vale etc. Then suddenly our alliance leader Cujo decided to leave the game and e-bay his account (reason why he got perma banned) to buy a new living room or whatever.. He appointed Duke North as the new alliance leader. Duke was rarely on and so we formed a managment council to handle alliance stuff. Duke got jealous of Amarr CEO (Cujo & Amarr were a great team, Duke on the other hand was just a wierdo IMO) and the support he got from other CEOs. The alliance didnt wanted to lose Species as a corp but everyone agreed that Duke had to go! In the mean time FE disbanded and became ERA, FIVE disbanded and became DICE + something else, G/IRON become D2 and IRON etc.. We asked G, later on D2 many times to help us get rid of the FIVE presence, and the answer was that they were busy with BoB and we should hang in there. Later on they attacked us with the reasoning that we were NAPed with FIVE. On the day our factory station was undersiege by D2/Razor we needed dreadnoughts to get rid of the hostile POS'. It came out Duke North had the only dreadnought in the alliance, (Kozak, Almightybig, etc who had sacreficed their dread in taking Tenal left to join ASCN) but he refused to use it and logged out! That was the last drop filling a big bucket of patience so ADGA decided to leave the alliance, we informed the whole alliance that we were leaving and started putting down the towers in 6OY which we controlled. Soon after species started shooting on our haulers, Species immediately lost access to 60Y station and it came out Duke was keeping his dread in 60Y station so they tried to apologize and make up for it and then continue the hostility once we turned out to be extremely stubborn. It all went downhill after that some corps sided with Species, some sided with ADGA the good old civil war was back, we just packed all our stuff into freighters and ran out of the conflict as fast as possible. Following Species was a mistake but if we would have stayed in SE we would have to ally with RAT (AAA) later on which is a big NO-NO for ADGA, so we would be left in Stain with nothing. All what ADGA was looking for was a good team, I'm glad we are finally in one !
Soyemia Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:16:00 - [117] These posts about us being lame, makes me very angry. So we're lame, because we actually have frfends first time! Yeah right, Whats The Coallition that cant kick out RA? They are lame because they have friends? Are we stupid because we didint give up? Should we have given up when 9CG fell? Should we? Many would have done that, but now FIX, and FIX will never die. We took the best option. We have now our "own" 0.0 space. We live there without taxes, we make our own policies. FIX is not a quitter allinace that quits straight when it loses its space. We took the offer to rebuild us. We learned a lot from CODA wars, I admit we lost to CODA, and we're now in 0.0 because of bob, and im not ashemed of it, lapdog isint the word. You know, we're rebuilding our selves, and we have came long way from end of CODA war. We would have not disbanded even if we would have lost 0.0 acces, we would have rebuilt ourselves, and came take what is ours. So its wrong to be friends with BoB? You cant be BoB friend without being a mining slave? So now days you cant be friend without being slave. Proud member of fix. Hated on finnish channel. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:19:00 - [118] Originally by: ProphetGuru Originally by: Kunming I might be biased and misinformed Least you got something right...... Interesting how not FIX but BoB pilots come to the flam... defence! Selective quoting 4TW, might make someones post look like something else.. great, great stuff
McMike Hegemonic Core	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:41:00 - [119] Quote: We have now our "own" 0.0 space. We live there without taxes, we make our own policies. Pleeeease. * You had your own 0.0 space, you now live in BOB's 0.0 space. Look at alliance map and look at the sov of the station systems. * You pay taxes as soon as your press the refine button in BOB's stations. * You have your own policies AS LONG as they don't conflict with BOB's policies. If they do, BOB's dictates what you do. If you want to do something and bob said no, you would not do it. BOB controls you. They may leave you be when your not needed but ultimately, BOB has final say on what happens in their space.
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:48:00 - [120] Omg post with your main McMike

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