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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Winger [ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war)
Actually I think it was closer to 3600 from when I looked at it a month ago.. Nice try on OMG ASCN LOSING MASSES OF MEMBERS LOOK LOOK angle.
Nasicly all we can really tell is
bob have captured 1 station after a month Bob have not won It took bob a month to build a titan
If things stay the way they are it will take BOB over a year to destroy ASCN
Ego Bob VS ASCN = One huge massive slogfest And thats allowing for the forum 'distortions'
I really wish people could sit down and just calmly discuss the fight rather than this utter rubbish people go on with. It probably the greatest battle in eve history and probably not even the people involved can relax and enjoy it.
I wouldn;t be surprised if there are secret furuns for the guys fighting so actually discuss the fights, but the usual suspects will never know about them, and frankly tahst a good thing
Anyway to those guys, have a blast.
Ooh a rat! *blasty blasty*
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Sunsets
The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:45:00 -
[62]
Just curious, you guys mention the numbers difference between BoB and ASCN but this doesn't mean much till you have a server which can support an unlimited number of fighters does it?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:50:00 -
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Wow, the thread title sound's so whiny it hurt, i can invisage someone going ' please please, help us, they are bullying us, sob sniff, we only have 5k members, using mercs and allies to fight there 1600 but thee too much, we need everyone to help us, sob sob, please please.
Btw, sorry if that sound's harsh to you ascn, im directing it to the op coz it is ridiculously whiny. Keep up the good work my fellow BoB's and respect to ascn for being a decent opponent and having the cahoone's to fight on an alliance level
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: laotse when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch   
ans this is why ASCN is going to loose.
Their own pilots are already getting ready for defeat.
Shame to be honest. Real Shame.
----------------------------------------------- ok ok
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Mr LovaLova
The Pole Position
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:58:00 -
[65]
I support this idea and as morale boost i offer one exotic danser for each BoB kill provided by an outsider.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Himo Amasacia It took bob a month to build a titan
Hmmm, investigate things before you post, please.
I have absolutely no knowledge about how EVOL built their Titan ('gratz anyways, guys), but there are a few basic facts about building a Titan that're true for all.
Manufacturing time is about 6 weeks. Research material time is about 1/2 year (just 1 level is a HUGE saving in materials) It takes a LOT of time to gather the materials and build the components, not to mention the ISK to buy the BPO's. It takes a LOT of time to transport all the components tothe build POS. It'd be foolish to store a BPO of a Titan in a POS, so it's probably best to make a copy first. Another 20+ weeks. Then, parallel to that, there is the training requirements to fly/fight it effectively.
So seriously, even in the best case with no research on the BPO at all, it'd still take months to acquire a Titan, and probably 1/2+ year to train the skills for it.
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:12:00 -
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Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itĘs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down.
I really enjoyed the time I didnĘt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnĘt learn your lesson the first time.
The truth will set you free
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off?
Yes, the two formed a nap and decided to go after 2 of the weakest alliances in game (NBSI and PA). 5's "we don't hold any space" ended up as "we don't hold any space in the south". Then ATUK disbanded and formed DICE (who joined BoB) and [5] impoded.
Are you saying that if/when BoB gives up its space, the same thing will happen again? 
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Mace Ardguy
Dark Wheel
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx Why in hell would D2 / RZR / IRON & co intervene while their 2 biggest nemesis duke it out? That would be utterly stupid...
... because as it is right now they have the opportunity, not to "help" ASCN, but to defeat BoB.
With ASCN acting like a punchbag BoB are distracted and committed.
There's nothing to stop other BoB enemies from shooting ASCN too, but BoB would be the target.
I don't think anyone is saying "come help ASCN". They are saying "Use this opportunity to take down the biggest military power in Eve".
Quite where ASCNs might has gone who knows. THere was a time when they cleared out entire neighbouring regions because they didn't like who was there (Omist, Paragon Soul). There was a time when they could field 200 people to lock a system down (ECP8R).
WHy take down BoB rather than ASCN? ASCN, for all their faults, largely stay in the same place going "geewhizz look what we can do" - Outpost, Titan, etc. They don't conquer, or expand, or aggress (ECP8R excepted).
BoB are aggressive, and until they have everyone under their yoke, supplying them with their gear, their riches, their Titans, they will keep looking for the next challenge. Who will that be?
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Uggs386
All Your Base R Mine
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itĘs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down.
I really enjoyed the time I didnĘt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnĘt learn your lesson the first time.
ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point.
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:30:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Old Geeza
Originally by: Metal Dude Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off?
Yes, the two formed a nap ...
This quote alone shows that you don't know what you are talking about.
The truth will set you free
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Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/11/2006 14:17:42 I think the beginnings of something like that is occuring in fountain. where xelas is under attack and their friends in bob are basicly saying tough (possibly as they need every pilot against Ascn at the moment) So Xelas is crumbling. Of course thats really bob space and xelas were just there as squatters and not to do all the grind boaring jobs to the uber Bobs can stay Ubermench. (I mean, someone had to emergency mine and haul all those minerals so you could emergency build that titan) And yes I know people who WERE in Xelas till.. umm.. this week actually 
Once that blue on the map goes (yeah right, that map wont change no matter how many people sit there woondering where bob is for how many months) it might shock Bob into doing something, but other than that, all there will be is more more crap on the forums and more hard fighting in the game (where it actually counts)
You know I really should go to Delve for some ratting.. (yeah yeah I'm surre I'll see the all the systems infested with Bob and die immediatly.. Unfortunatly I've been over a year in the game so I'll believe that when the Devil is serving ice with his martinis)
And no this is not an alt for Ascn. Bob has just spewed more forum crap to annoy me more, is all. Only time I have ever faced Bob personally is when 2 of their guys attacked a bunch of us in a complex and wound up bieng chased around the system for 15 minutes till one of them cloaked and the other logged. No they didn't kill anyone. I have seen a lot of ex BOB members floating about recently though.
Oh well back to ratting.
BAHAHAHAHA You are smacking about the fact you could NPC in Delve. You are the uberest poster I have ever seen.
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386
Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itĘs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down.
I really enjoyed the time I didnĘt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnĘt learn your lesson the first time.
ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point.
Great. Then we'll see you here soon. 
The truth will set you free
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:36:00 -
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dont know why we need another one of these, topic has been done to death, lot of people want ascn gone and alot of people want bob gone, now in what is possibly the most prime moment in the last year to accomplish this.... no one is really stepping up to the plate cept maybe AAA
talk is cheap if you want something go for it, otherwise stfu and grab some popcorn
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.11.09 15:37:00 -
[75]
Why should any other alliance bother to wade into a conflict that is in full swing? The only reason Xelas/FIX (and more loosely IAC/MC) are involved is that they occupy the space between ASCN/BoB.
I'd imagine the smarter money would be on waiting until one alliance has all but exhausted itself in defeating the other. Besides I think ASCN and BoB are equally despised enough for people hope the conflict will destroy them both.
Besides, 8 new regions and an awful lot more fun and creative ways of killing people, are coming in Kali. We're busy preparing for that.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
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Petwraith
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:04:00 -
[76]
Thread cleaned. Please do not flame, troll, post off topic or discuss recruitment in this thread. ---
If it ain't orange, it ain't offical! |
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:09:00 -
[77]
Privateers has declared war on Band of Brothers alliance (BoB) and is requesting BoB surrender immediately and disband. Thank You. The Privateering Life |

INZi
coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:35:00 -
[78]
AAA on BOB = pwn'age'd
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Abriana Overlord
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:38:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Have you ever thought that POS warefare simply isn't fun?
Signed... did I just agree agree with a D2 chap 
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Uggs386
All Your Base R Mine
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:41:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Uggs386
Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itĘs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down.
I really enjoyed the time I didnĘt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnĘt learn your lesson the first time.
ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point.
Great. Then we'll see you here soon. 
yes because I obviously said I was going to attack bob, o thats right i didn't even infer anything of that sort, I have better things to do than have my 1 man corp get blobbed by you guys. Reading posts before responding to them usually will help prevent you from looking like an idiot.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: maria stallion
Originally by: slothe
oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE.
I can understand you slothe, but CELEST haven't attacked BOB directly during this war. How can they be heroes when they start attacking a alliance that has nothing to do with the conlict. Outbreak are bussy somewhere else before the war even started(good fighters though).
I would have aspected more people helping ASCN, but on the otherhand they had 5000 members, where we have only 1500. ASCN hasn't attacked us much last week, that a disapointment in my eyes, eve should be fun and not boring, if ASCN needs to avoid conflict everytime it's gonna ruin the game for them and that just a pitty.
Not corp opinion, but mine....
We didn't start attacking xelas during the BoB vs ASCN war. It was long beforehand, so I don't really get your point. -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.11.09 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: arkarsk on 09/11/2006 16:51:01
Originally by: Sharcy Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?
Am I the only one that finds it ironic, that if ASCN helped the goons against BoB earlier, and didnt just join the bandwagon and reset standings to 0 [or in axe's case, fight a prolong empire war vs the goons] - they could be helping you now.... or even better, this war may not even have happened!
You guys are getting what you deserve. -----------------
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BlackSabbath
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.09 17:02:00 -
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problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos.
they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have ****ed on almost every alliance in the game. ================================ "i am only here to **** you off" |

Crovan
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.09 17:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
On a personal note, I find it discouraging that the one entity that could balance things out has abstained in this conflict. I know MC have their reasons, but come on, really, who among the community wouldn't have loved to see BoB vs. ASCN/MC? Instead of this (apparently) one sided fight?...
Thanks for the vote of confidence 
Fact is that neither side really wants us there, and there's no sense in our going where we aren't wanted (and thus won't be getting paid).
Originally by: Seleene
Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
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Porter Hadlend
Gallente Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.11.09 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: BlackSabbath problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos.
they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have ****ed on almost every alliance in the game.
While this comment is certainly filled with vitriol and blatantly hostile, I would agree that BoB do have a lengthy history of taking a giant dump on anyone and everyone, including those who have supported them, been friends with them or allied to them.
A standing reset here, a pointless poem used to say what could have easily and better said in plain words, and hey, you've got yourself a winner.
When did prose become the standard for public addresses anyways? Man that gets old fast. --------------
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.11.09 18:05:00 -
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I have a spy in Fix and in the diplomat meetings they said they are preparing an attack against bob. reason being is that bob has back stabbed fix recently. I wonder if Avernus and Zangi would follow through with such a sneak attack!!!
 USN
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fugazii
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.09 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: m0jo
So why dont you take the initiative and attack BoB?
because unlike the other alliances he listed(aside from lv) we are already in a war. whereas everyone else isnt.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.09 18:18:00 -
[88]
Originally by: BlackSabbath problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos.
they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have ****ed on almost every alliance in the game.
Yes, axiom or ascn has never done that have they? Hi Tribal Souls. Hi FIX at the end of the CODA war.
And you're right, some of our sov systems are indeed only claimed by one pos (woe betide us) but some ASCN have already tried killing our pos in Delve. Note the operative word here: TRIED. RKK has lost 1 small tower in this whole campaign (it was offline), any online pos has been defended suitably well to keep it operational.
Would you like to buy a clue, or do they give them away to special cases like you? I'd suggest you be involved and actually, you know, put your money where your mouth is and ATTACK, rather than being an armchair general.
No wait, you can't, because you can't handle aAa.
buhu.
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.09 18:21:00 -
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The only problem with this war, is that one day it will end, and probably just have one looser .
Why would anyone want to interfere now and risk it ending prematurely?
Look at the possible scenarios:
- BoB kills ASCN, creating a nice vacuum in space where there used to be a relatively strong power - WIN - ASCN kills BoB, unlikely, but would drastically shift the balance of power for all entities - WIN - They slug it out for a looong time, both sides expending tons of resources at each other, all others in EVE - WIN - Someone interfere's, chance of BoB returning home stating they achieved their objective in the South and the map remains largely unchanged - LOOSE
For newer players eying on one day entering 0.0, this is a very nice gift of war to the community.
May it last forever 
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.09 18:24:00 -
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Nothing surprises me anymore since returning to EvE. Everything has changed.
Molle said at one point "There are no Goons", yet they spend their time fighting ASCN for some reason that is still unclear to me. But what is BoB gonna do? Come through LV space to hit Goons? What a logistical nightmare that would be. Long term, what is going on doesn't make sense, but then again maybe I don't know something about the new regions others do.
LV isn't going anywhere, regardless of the constant posts. The server nodes weren't so easy to crash back in the day. Now they crash every weekend in our battles.
EvE is predictable. Alliances will jump on the easier bandwagon. At least that is what I have seen.
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