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Nymos Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:53:00 - [31] yea what happened to all the anti-bob threads months ago where everyone posted how much bob sucked and such. noone likes them yet noone dares to fight and points at someone else saying "someone's gotta kill bob wtfz0mg". but why should eve be different from RL where there's a lot of blah blah and when the time comes for action you suddenly have no support at all. so predictable :) --
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:00:00 - [32] All sorts of lost Northerners are tooling around the East looking for a quick gank. More the merrier I suppose, at this point a few dozen extra targets are not going to make a differance and on the positive side they are shooting everybody instead of just us. F4T4L is Recruiting!
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:03:00 - [33] yo slothe. some of the guys u have mentioned have been interested in taking BOB on, but its all been words with no actions. iv lost count of the anti-bob channels iv been in only to leave because no1 actually does anything, they prefer to fight eachother... I could mention the ppl that have been looking to attack them?, maybe knowing that BOB know and that they may be attacked next will get them to act?. hmmm. i get stuff like this "darth we want to help celes apoc against BOB im sending down a frig gang" yay, not. d solo.
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:06:00 - [34] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. ( the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) friends? )) who are you talking about? -lv-?
Mr Vrix Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:17:00 - [35] People mention irony, and the fact Alliances just want to keep out of BoB's way incase they are next. I figure the biggest irony is, that if people did attack BoB on several fronts, they would love it, and give those Alliances a lot more kudos than sitting back and waiting. This is a game, and it is supposed to be fun. BoB have proven time and again that they are a match or at least equal to any players in the game, and need new challenges. Not being in the know, I would hazard a guess that is the reason they re-set all standings a while back, and also the reason they are attacking ASCN now. For the fun of it, and because they can:) Nothing would give the rank and file a bigger buzz than being informed that several more fronts opened up, and they had to actually work for a change. And before anyone asks,"why don't RK attack BoB then if you think that way?" RK doing our little thing down in Gem atm. Who knows what the future holds, what I do know is that the present POS wars are tedious at best, defending an outpost drains your enjoyment, and one big cluster**** would put a smile on everyones faces, sure of it:).
EvilNate Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:22:00 - [36] tbh, I'm surprised more of the bigger alliances that don't have homes aren't doing this. Nate
Neronthegreat	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:25:00 - [37] Edited by: Neronthegreat on 09/11/2006 11:28:39 delete pls
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:28:00 - [38] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war) POS - a hand full of dudes (lets say 200) All the merc corps that you hired (lets say 150 player in these corps) makes a nice sum of 3750 player (active or not) against 1600 BoB player (active or not). the fact that you loose systems, stations and regions shows who is at the moment about to win. the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. -SIG- Personally i do not flame at anybody --- BUT --- If you flame at me, do not expect that i will not return it in the same way....
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:38:00 - [39] Have you ever though of contacting these alliance is sekret instead of here where it will get flaimed and create hate between each of the alliance and avoid makeing yet another BoB thread. I realy wish the Forskin Empire (corp or otherwise)would stay dead as thats just a nasty blot on EVE history. Try again!
Kriz Lupin Krookid The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Nero Winger Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war) POS - a hand full of dudes (lets say 200) All the merc corps that you hired (lets say 150 player in these corps) makes a nice sum of 3750 player (active or not) against 1600 BoB player (active or not). the fact that you loose systems, stations and regions shows who is at the moment about to win. the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. Win what? :/
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:49:00 - [41] Just a personal note.. to OP. Not everyone is enough crazy to fight a war faraway when they got enemies roaming near their station systems all the time and trying to beat your friendly neighbours who you need to occansionally help same time, hmm only problem is.. you can't defeat enemy who doesn't engage in eve that easily unless everyone in your alliance love to risk dread fleets to node crashes and pos warfare generally. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:56:00 - [42] I dont know what all the worry is about. When it comes to LV vs BOB that is going to be one bl00dy slog of a conflict. I know that Shinra at least has got pilots who have the same ethics that we in BOB have. These are... 1. Upset people so much they cry and self harm themselves 2. Blow stuff up for no reason but to make the above happen 3. Eat babies and laugh at homeless people. There are many others but these are very close to my heart. I never expected much more resistance from ASCN once we smashed their fleets a few times. Its got alot of people in there that will avoid a conflict if they can. And once again its the few combat orientated ones in ASCN that are left trying to hold at slowly crumbling defense line. I commend those who carry on the fight.
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) --
Khan Farshatok Caldari Occam's Razor Combine Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:05:00 - [44] Edited by: Khan Farshatok on 09/11/2006 12:06:27 Quote: (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) Err -what? I'm confused now: Quote: db preacher: Those who remain will be griefed, harrassed, killed, mocked and abused until the servers go down. They will never be allowed to build up in any sector of 0.0 space and whose alliance will be slaughtered whenever we feel like it. Goons in space? No, Corpses in space. http://www.reikoku.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=13
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:07:00 - [45] RA versus BOB could be intesting shame its opposite sides of hte map
Schani Kratnorr Federal Volunteers Office	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:08:00 - [46] Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 09/11/2006 12:10:36 The lack of alliances jumping at the chance to take a swing at BoB could suggest that BoB diplomats have been successful at isolating their target. From a purely in-game perspective, BoB have made few (if any) mistakes worth mentioning, and appear strong and united. This, if anything, is a testament to the success of their battle plan. If one single entity grows beyond the point where it can sustain itself, then it must fall. Thus we find ACSN being "helped" along their evolutionary path by BoB. The question that remains is, Have ASCN grown beyond anyoneÆs ability to completely wipe them out? Even if all systems are taken, and even if ASCN fall apart as an alliance, there will still be hundreds if not thousands of actual players ready to form new things or join existing enterprises. In EVE, you cannot die... On a personal note, I find it discouraging that the one entity that could balance things out has abstained in this conflict. I know MC have their reasons, but come on, really, who among the community wouldn't have loved to see BoB vs. ASCN/MC? Instead of this (apparently) one sided fight?... Why does ASCN simply not seek aid elsewhere? Have they no friends? Have BoB managed to isolate them completely? (EDIT: spelling) -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender
RN BloodTraxX ME15	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) Actually they are simply focusing on ending your alliance. Currently taking orders for future TIER3 BS BPC's, 30Mil each run.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) Im not so keen talking about numbers like my keen colleague has pointed too because that never really tells the true story. At best with the large alliances I think you are not going to get much over 10% of that number on an average day and 20% at most should it be something mega important. So really its something like 150 v 400 odd. Now that may still look pretty favourable to ASCN but I know from experience most on the lads in ACSN want nothing to do with fighting what so ever. So in the cold light of day its about even numbers. And we know from our spying on your TS your FCs are not too hot, which can only lead to a BOB victory cause we got some pretty hot FCs. As I stated above in a prevous post when/if it become BOB v LV that is going to be a real test imo.
Razor Jaxx Minus Ten	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:31:00 - [49] Why in hell would D2 / RZR / IRON & co intervene while their 2 biggest nemesis duke it out? That would be utterly stupid...
Endeva Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:57:00 - [50] Originally by: eveceo1 Originally by: Endeva Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) yw we paid goons and RA to keep busy lv and that post you maid look like you crying for more help or i am wrong? you maybe should pay more mercenaries to deal with us cos apperanty you dont have enough members I think DBPreacher should stop you from even looking at the forums, your making your alliance look like idiots. only idiot here is You.
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:11:00 - [51] when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:12:00 - [52] Once again this is from my perspective. 1) Eve cant support fleet battles. Its usually one side lags out and the other side slaughters(with some exceptions) 2) ASCN has like 20 stations, right now BoB isn't even at ASCN core systems. Why is everyone on the forum pushing the panic buttons. ASCN has plenty of fight left. Dont believe the forums. 3) IRON/D2/most of eve dont like BoB or ASCN. To us this looks like sweet justice/irony for the EC-P8R incident. 4) All BoB wants to do is blow up ASCN's Titan so they can be hey we are the first to blow up Titan. 5) POS wars are really fun. "What happens in Deklien stays in Deklien".
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:33:00 - [53] Originally by: laotse when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch tjooh, just one historic example of similar steamrolling what actually happened. Vikings in england.. they conquered all kingdoms but the last one... simply because all fighting opponents had only one kingdom to go and joined it's forces to drive out vikings out and in the end it "conquered"/united whole england exception being wales/scotland/ireland. Ofc there's empire, but that can be thrown as scotland at that time period.. not worth of the effort as income is so low. Wales will be the nap:ed alliance towards BoB not one of the so called "slave corpses". Anyways just came to mind when reading a book if you want to play with that scenario but then again this is game where opponents don't die so we'll see how it goes with game mechanics. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
The Anointed Caldari KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:54:00 - [54] Take a look at the map, see all the sytems with bob sov. Now imagine just how long it would take for someone to remove their sov, destroy/deisable all their pos and take their stations. Now imagine trying to avoid ending up in a conflict with the MC and FIX while doing all of this. Think of the amount of isk you would have to pile into that task? Now think of doing all of this so that you can go home afterwards? What would the point be? If you dont plan on holding the space, then why bother attacking it? That imo coupled with how irritating a war of attrition and pos spamming apears to be, is why the major alliances dont want any part in actually destroying bob, because its not going to benefit them in any way, especially seeing as an alliance such as d2 have already shown imo that they can adequately defend themselves should BoB come knocking again. If however the alliance in eve did all attack bob and pile everything into it, eventually taking bobs systems all it would do acheive, imo, would be to create something worse. If the day comes when BoB no longer has a home and becomes a roaming fleet like it used to be, whislt still keeping their alliance together, then to put it politley, everyones ******.
Sun Ra Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:07:00 - [55] LV prob the only ones who could do some damage, d2 maybe but they seem lacking now days. TBH if any alliance really wants nail BoB you'll have to leave your space and take over delve, just attacking them isnt enough Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Tangentoar Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Mallick Most people can not be arsed because they are forum warriors, they only pretend to dislike BoB. In reality they could not care less. Take D2 or IRON, it is not like they are 'busy' in the north, they just dont want to attack BoB because they might be next. In SMASH case I guess we are not done with E-R, CDC and PURE, so will not send people down to attack BoB. When will you be done with them?
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:10:00 - [57] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/11/2006 14:17:42 I think the beginnings of something like that is occuring in fountain. where xelas is under attack and their friends in bob are basicly saying tough (possibly as they need every pilot against Ascn at the moment) So Xelas is crumbling. Of course thats really bob space and xelas were just there as squatters and not to do all the grind boaring jobs to the uber Bobs can stay Ubermench. (I mean, someone had to emergency mine and haul all those minerals so you could emergency build that titan) And yes I know people who WERE in Xelas till.. umm.. this week actually Once that blue on the map goes (yeah right, that map wont change no matter how many people sit there woondering where bob is for how many months) it might shock Bob into doing something, but other than that, all there will be is more more crap on the forums and more hard fighting in the game (where it actually counts) You know I really should go to Delve for some ratting.. (yeah yeah I'm surre I'll see the all the systems infested with Bob and die immediatly.. Unfortunatly I've been over a year in the game so I'll believe that when the Devil is serving ice with his martinis) And no this is not an alt for Ascn. Bob has just spewed more forum crap to annoy me more, is all. Only time I have ever faced Bob personally is when 2 of their guys attacked a bunch of us in a complex and wound up bieng chased around the system for 15 minutes till one of them cloaked and the other logged. No they didn't kill anyone. I have seen a lot of ex BOB members floating about recently though. Oh well back to ratting.
Seran O'Car	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:10:00 - [58] Reason why other people don't attack BoB is becus their to chicken **** to do it. And there is to little in it for em.
maria stallion Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:13:00 - [59] Originally by: slothe oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. [/quote I can understand you slothe, but CELEST haven't attacked BOB directly during this war. How can they be heroes when they start attacking a alliance that has nothing to do with the conlict. Outbreak are bussy somewhere else before the war even started(good fighters though). I would have aspected more people helping ASCN, but on the otherhand they had 5000 members, where we have only 1500. ASCN hasn't attacked us much last week, that a disapointment in my eyes, eve should be fun and not boring, if ASCN needs to avoid conflict everytime it's gonna ruin the game for them and that just a pitty. Not corp opinion, but mine....
Cipher7	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:34:00 - [60] If you're going to support ASCN or attack BoB do it for the right reasons, not out of teary eyed pity. Eve is a PVP game after all, and destroying each other is part of the game.

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