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slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:21:00 - [1] I mean come on its getting a bit predictable isnt it. With BoB attacking ASCN and semingly throwing everything at them now is the PERFECT opportunity to attack them on multiple fronts. Come on D2 i mean where the hell are you? Attacking ASCN still? You guys suck. Are you really that afraid of BoB. Surely you are settled into venal enough now to do something interesting. Cmmdr "Primary" Woodlouse , comon dude you could have defeated 5 before and failed to do so, you going to fail to act again now? Razor ? Come on dudes stop carebearing and atack. You could send some skirmish fleets in at least. Iron / FLA - Regain your former glory. Even if you lose you do something interesting. Morhus Mihi - You guys have had some practice against POS recently - put it into actionagainst BoB. Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. The only conclusion i get from inaction is the fact everyone is scared of BoB, and if thats the case this game sucks oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. p.p.s. no crappy posts from BoB members (or anyone else please) esp DICE and TAOSP and DB Preacher
Colje Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:23:00 - [2] DB Preacher cant help himself...he must answer...just you wait. And thumbs up for your suggestion...
Horatio Starkiller Minmatar TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:24:00 - [3] Come on then "forsaken empire" bring it on, you know where we are! (i.e. Paragon Soul not Delve)
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Come on then "forsaken empire" bring it on, you know where we are! (i.e. Paragon Soul not Delve) Unfortunately im in Koh Phi Phi in Thailand unable to play atm. Wait for me to get back to blighty emote/ shakes fist.
Boonaki Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:26:00 - [5] It would never happen Slothe, after thje ASCN war BoB is going to be looking for their next target. Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
Seldarine Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:29:00 - [6] Quote: I mean come on its getting a bit predictable isnt it. With BoB attacking ASCN and semingly throwing everything at them now is the PERFECT opportunity to attack them on multiple fronts. Come on D2 i mean where the hell are you? Attacking ASCN still? You guys suck. Are you really that afraid of BoB. Surely you are settled into venal enough now to do something interesting. Cmmdr "Primary" Woodlouse , comon dude you could have defeated 5 before and failed to do so, you going to fail to act again now? Razor ? Come on dudes stop carebearing and atack. You could send some skirmish fleets in at least. Iron / FLA - Regain your former glory. Even if you lose you do something interesting. Morhus Mihi - You guys have had some practice against POS recently - put it into actionagainst BoB. Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. The only conclusion i get from inaction is the fact everyone is scared of BoB, and if thats the case this game sucks oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. p.p.s. no crappy posts from BoB members (or anyone else please) esp DICE and TAOSP and DB Preacher Looks like someone has had his app to join a BoB corp declined ______________________________ ______________________________ Seldarine
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Seldarine Looks like someone has had his app to join a BoB corp declined Ask gunstar zero that question.
Remmington Daniels Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:35:00 - [8] Didnt FE die when we (talking in my 5 voice here) beat the crap out of you up north. Arent you void now? wait nm there still 4 member corporations, 18 pilots reside under its sovereignty. CMON INVADE, THATS ONE HELL OF A FORCE YOUVE GOT THERE oh and on the numbers front ASCN consists of 22 member corporations, 3829 pilots reside under its sovereignty. Thats shrunk quite a bit in the past week
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:36:00 - [9] Unfortunately it won't happen as BoB are the top of the EVE pecking order when it comes to alliances and 0.0 space. I mean yeah it would make the game interesting but then again it's a tough choice to risk it all for having fun in the game. I think the last alliance to initiate hostilities with BoB was SA. And Seldarine am sure he didn't have to make an application to realise that the game would be more interesting if alliances were more aggressive to each other and would take risks.
James Duar Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:40:00 - [10] This war has been missing something I can't quite put my finger on and that's exactly it. If BoB has so many enemies, where are the multiple fronts? And the fronts opening up when they go on the offensive etc. etc. Call it Alliance War 1. --- Recently returned from vacation on a sunny planet in 0.0. Guess which one!
Master OlavPancrazio Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:46:00 - [11] Have you ever thought that POS warefare simply isn't fun?
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:47:00 - [12] Once BoB is done attacking ASCN where will their attention turn when they get bored again? Everyone seems to want to stay under the radar of BoB but wouldn't be best to attack them now then wait for them to attack you? Even seems some people are attacking ASCN in order to get on BoB's good side. _________________________________________
Mallick Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:48:00 - [13] Most people can not be arsed because they are forum warriors, they only pretend to dislike BoB. In reality they could not care less. Take D2 or IRON, it is not like they are 'busy' in the north, they just dont want to attack BoB because they might be next. In SMASH case I guess we are not done with E-R, CDC and PURE, so will not send people down to attack BoB. Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
Seldarine Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:50:00 - [14] Quote: And Seldarine am sure he didn't have to make an application to realise that the game would be more interesting if alliances were more aggressive to each other and would take risks. Yes I understand Hans, but asking for the whole of Eve vs BoB is also not going to make things more interesting. Your correct in the fact that alliances do need more aggression towards each other, as this is a game, and all these napped alliances are just spoiling it imo. ______________________________ ______________________________ Seldarine
Treebeard dk M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Remmington Daniels Didnt FE die when we (talking in my 5 voice here) beat the crap out of you up north. Arent you void now? wait nm there still 4 member corporations, 18 pilots reside under its sovereignty. CMON INVADE, THATS ONE HELL OF A FORCE YOUVE GOT THERE Forsaken Empire is a corp too in case you failed to notice :)
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:53:00 - [16] Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) --
Boonaki Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:55:00 - [17] Originally by: slothe Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Come on then "forsaken empire" bring it on, you know where we are! (i.e. Paragon Soul not Delve) Unfortunately im in Koh Phi Phi in Thailand unable to play atm. Wait for me to get back to blighty emote/ shakes fist. From what I read, theres only a few reasons to go to Thailand. Most of them involve a condom. Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
Needer moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.09 09:58:00 - [18] BOB just isn t important enough to deal with them!
Endeva Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) yw we paid goons and RA to keep busy lv and that post you maid look like you crying for more help or i am wrong? you maybe should pay more mercenaries to deal with us cos apperanty you dont have enough members
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:10:00 - [20] I want to see BOB vs RA & Goons tbh. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
m0jo Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:15:00 - [21] Originally by: slothe I mean come on its getting a bit predictable isnt it. With BoB attacking ASCN and semingly throwing everything at them now is the PERFECT opportunity to attack them on multiple fronts. Come on D2 i mean where the hell are you? Attacking ASCN still? You guys suck. Are you really that afraid of BoB. Surely you are settled into venal enough now to do something interesting. Cmmdr "Primary" Woodlouse , comon dude you could have defeated 5 before and failed to do so, you going to fail to act again now? Razor ? Come on dudes stop carebearing and atack. You could send some skirmish fleets in at least. Iron / FLA - Regain your former glory. Even if you lose you do something interesting. Morhus Mihi - You guys have had some practice against POS recently - put it into actionagainst BoB. Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. The only conclusion i get from inaction is the fact everyone is scared of BoB, and if thats the case this game sucks oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. p.p.s. no crappy posts from BoB members (or anyone else please) esp DICE and TAOSP and DB Preacher So why dont you take the initiative and attack BoB?
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:18:00 - [22] Originally by: Boonaki From what I read, theres only a few reasons to go to Thailand. Most of them involve a condom. Titans? Originally by: Endeva and that post you maid look like you crying for more help or i am wrong? You are wrong, please don't project your own obsession on others. Read the part again where I said I was posting as a community member, one who genuinely wonders about the things the OP has brought up. I would have posted the same if I had not been in ASCN. Regarding RAGoons, I only said it was ironic. Nothing more. --
Simon Barrow Basgerin Hounds	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Sharcy Read the part again where I said I was posting as a community member You are a member of ASCN wether you like it or not, saying that your posting as a community member doesnt change anything. Your a member of ASCN first and your post reflects that more than anything else.
Kriz Lupin Krookid The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:28:00 - [24] I think everyone just got bored with BoB. To many BoB posts, no-one cares anymore, its got old. That isnt a critism of BoB, Im sure they are still doing what they do best.
Kriz Lupin Krookid The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Old Geeza I want to see BOB vs RA & Goons tbh. Forget Goons. BoB vs Ra, I think, would spice eve up again.
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Simon Barrow You are a member of ASCN wether you like it or not, saying that your posting as a community member doesnt change anything. Your a member of ASCN first and your post reflects that more than anything else. Oh, I like being a member of ASCN, but that doesn't mean I can't think for myself and wonder about stuff. This is still a game, remember? --
Gunstar Zero Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:34:00 - [27] Originally by: slothe Originally by: Seldarine Looks like someone has had his app to join a BoB corp declined Ask gunstar zero that question. Yeah slothe told me not to approach him with any more industry roles :( ....... ;-p regarding OP - we'de enjoy it if everyone did that's for sure.
Simon Barrow Basgerin Hounds	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Simon Barrow You are a member of ASCN wether you like it or not, saying that your posting as a community member doesnt change anything. Your a member of ASCN first and your post reflects that more than anything else. Oh, I like being a member of ASCN, but that doesn't mean I can't think for myself and wonder about stuff. This is still a game, remember? Your free to think for your self as much as you like and you can wonder all you want and in any direction you want.. But you cant take of your allegiance hat and pretend your thoughts arent related to your current situation just because you say so. Your post looked smelled and was like a post from an ASCN member, your clause of "posted at a community member" doesnt change anything about that.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:39:00 - [29] We'd love some shooty shooty slothe. Come back soon.
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:48:00 - [30] Originally by: slothe Originally by: Horatio Starkiller Come on then "forsaken empire" bring it on, you know where we are! (i.e. Paragon Soul not Delve) Unfortunately im in Koh Phi Phi in Thailand unable to play atm. Wait for me to get back to blighty emote/ shakes fist. Come to Ao Nang and I'll buy you a beer :). And yes please. Someone else attack us. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14) Sama
Nymos Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 10:53:00 - [31] yea what happened to all the anti-bob threads months ago where everyone posted how much bob sucked and such. noone likes them yet noone dares to fight and points at someone else saying "someone's gotta kill bob wtfz0mg". but why should eve be different from RL where there's a lot of blah blah and when the time comes for action you suddenly have no support at all. so predictable :) --
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:00:00 - [32] All sorts of lost Northerners are tooling around the East looking for a quick gank. More the merrier I suppose, at this point a few dozen extra targets are not going to make a differance and on the positive side they are shooting everybody instead of just us. F4T4L is Recruiting!
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:03:00 - [33] yo slothe. some of the guys u have mentioned have been interested in taking BOB on, but its all been words with no actions. iv lost count of the anti-bob channels iv been in only to leave because no1 actually does anything, they prefer to fight eachother... I could mention the ppl that have been looking to attack them?, maybe knowing that BOB know and that they may be attacked next will get them to act?. hmmm. i get stuff like this "darth we want to help celes apoc against BOB im sending down a frig gang" yay, not. d solo.
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:06:00 - [34] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. ( the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) friends? )) who are you talking about? -lv-?
Mr Vrix Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:17:00 - [35] People mention irony, and the fact Alliances just want to keep out of BoB's way incase they are next. I figure the biggest irony is, that if people did attack BoB on several fronts, they would love it, and give those Alliances a lot more kudos than sitting back and waiting. This is a game, and it is supposed to be fun. BoB have proven time and again that they are a match or at least equal to any players in the game, and need new challenges. Not being in the know, I would hazard a guess that is the reason they re-set all standings a while back, and also the reason they are attacking ASCN now. For the fun of it, and because they can:) Nothing would give the rank and file a bigger buzz than being informed that several more fronts opened up, and they had to actually work for a change. And before anyone asks,"why don't RK attack BoB then if you think that way?" RK doing our little thing down in Gem atm. Who knows what the future holds, what I do know is that the present POS wars are tedious at best, defending an outpost drains your enjoyment, and one big cluster**** would put a smile on everyones faces, sure of it:).
EvilNate Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:22:00 - [36] tbh, I'm surprised more of the bigger alliances that don't have homes aren't doing this. Nate
Neronthegreat	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:25:00 - [37] Edited by: Neronthegreat on 09/11/2006 11:28:39 delete pls
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:28:00 - [38] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war) POS - a hand full of dudes (lets say 200) All the merc corps that you hired (lets say 150 player in these corps) makes a nice sum of 3750 player (active or not) against 1600 BoB player (active or not). the fact that you loose systems, stations and regions shows who is at the moment about to win. the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. -SIG- Personally i do not flame at anybody --- BUT --- If you flame at me, do not expect that i will not return it in the same way....
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:38:00 - [39] Have you ever though of contacting these alliance is sekret instead of here where it will get flaimed and create hate between each of the alliance and avoid makeing yet another BoB thread. I realy wish the Forskin Empire (corp or otherwise)would stay dead as thats just a nasty blot on EVE history. Try again!
Kriz Lupin Krookid The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Nero Winger Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war) POS - a hand full of dudes (lets say 200) All the merc corps that you hired (lets say 150 player in these corps) makes a nice sum of 3750 player (active or not) against 1600 BoB player (active or not). the fact that you loose systems, stations and regions shows who is at the moment about to win. the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. Win what? :/
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:49:00 - [41] Just a personal note.. to OP. Not everyone is enough crazy to fight a war faraway when they got enemies roaming near their station systems all the time and trying to beat your friendly neighbours who you need to occansionally help same time, hmm only problem is.. you can't defeat enemy who doesn't engage in eve that easily unless everyone in your alliance love to risk dread fleets to node crashes and pos warfare generally. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:56:00 - [42] I dont know what all the worry is about. When it comes to LV vs BOB that is going to be one bl00dy slog of a conflict. I know that Shinra at least has got pilots who have the same ethics that we in BOB have. These are... 1. Upset people so much they cry and self harm themselves 2. Blow stuff up for no reason but to make the above happen 3. Eat babies and laugh at homeless people. There are many others but these are very close to my heart. I never expected much more resistance from ASCN once we smashed their fleets a few times. Its got alot of people in there that will avoid a conflict if they can. And once again its the few combat orientated ones in ASCN that are left trying to hold at slowly crumbling defense line. I commend those who carry on the fight.
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 11:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) --
Khan Farshatok Caldari Occam's Razor Combine Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:05:00 - [44] Edited by: Khan Farshatok on 09/11/2006 12:06:27 Quote: (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) Err -what? I'm confused now: Quote: db preacher: Those who remain will be griefed, harrassed, killed, mocked and abused until the servers go down. They will never be allowed to build up in any sector of 0.0 space and whose alliance will be slaughtered whenever we feel like it. Goons in space? No, Corpses in space. http://www.reikoku.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=13
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:07:00 - [45] RA versus BOB could be intesting shame its opposite sides of hte map
Schani Kratnorr Federal Volunteers Office	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:08:00 - [46] Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 09/11/2006 12:10:36 The lack of alliances jumping at the chance to take a swing at BoB could suggest that BoB diplomats have been successful at isolating their target. From a purely in-game perspective, BoB have made few (if any) mistakes worth mentioning, and appear strong and united. This, if anything, is a testament to the success of their battle plan. If one single entity grows beyond the point where it can sustain itself, then it must fall. Thus we find ACSN being "helped" along their evolutionary path by BoB. The question that remains is, Have ASCN grown beyond anyoneÆs ability to completely wipe them out? Even if all systems are taken, and even if ASCN fall apart as an alliance, there will still be hundreds if not thousands of actual players ready to form new things or join existing enterprises. In EVE, you cannot die... On a personal note, I find it discouraging that the one entity that could balance things out has abstained in this conflict. I know MC have their reasons, but come on, really, who among the community wouldn't have loved to see BoB vs. ASCN/MC? Instead of this (apparently) one sided fight?... Why does ASCN simply not seek aid elsewhere? Have they no friends? Have BoB managed to isolate them completely? (EDIT: spelling) -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender
RN BloodTraxX ME15	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) Actually they are simply focusing on ending your alliance. Currently taking orders for future TIER3 BS BPC's, 30Mil each run.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:11:00 - [48] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Nero Winger the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve just shows why we are about to win. SIGH Are you guys hooked up to USB Testosteron injectors, or what? I keep reading that BoB "just want to have fun in fighting", but it looks to me like you just want to win / be the best / wave e-peens (probably all 3). Remind me to use an alt next time when I post out of interest for EVE's political workings. Because heaven forbid I can have an objective viewpoint when I'm a part of one the entities involved (in a freakin GAME) Im not so keen talking about numbers like my keen colleague has pointed too because that never really tells the true story. At best with the large alliances I think you are not going to get much over 10% of that number on an average day and 20% at most should it be something mega important. So really its something like 150 v 400 odd. Now that may still look pretty favourable to ASCN but I know from experience most on the lads in ACSN want nothing to do with fighting what so ever. So in the cold light of day its about even numbers. And we know from our spying on your TS your FCs are not too hot, which can only lead to a BOB victory cause we got some pretty hot FCs. As I stated above in a prevous post when/if it become BOB v LV that is going to be a real test imo.
Razor Jaxx Minus Ten	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:31:00 - [49] Why in hell would D2 / RZR / IRON & co intervene while their 2 biggest nemesis duke it out? That would be utterly stupid...
Endeva Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:57:00 - [50] Originally by: eveceo1 Originally by: Endeva Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) yw we paid goons and RA to keep busy lv and that post you maid look like you crying for more help or i am wrong? you maybe should pay more mercenaries to deal with us cos apperanty you dont have enough members I think DBPreacher should stop you from even looking at the forums, your making your alliance look like idiots. only idiot here is You.
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:11:00 - [51] when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Death Merchant InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:12:00 - [52] Once again this is from my perspective. 1) Eve cant support fleet battles. Its usually one side lags out and the other side slaughters(with some exceptions) 2) ASCN has like 20 stations, right now BoB isn't even at ASCN core systems. Why is everyone on the forum pushing the panic buttons. ASCN has plenty of fight left. Dont believe the forums. 3) IRON/D2/most of eve dont like BoB or ASCN. To us this looks like sweet justice/irony for the EC-P8R incident. 4) All BoB wants to do is blow up ASCN's Titan so they can be hey we are the first to blow up Titan. 5) POS wars are really fun. "What happens in Deklien stays in Deklien".
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:33:00 - [53] Originally by: laotse when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch tjooh, just one historic example of similar steamrolling what actually happened. Vikings in england.. they conquered all kingdoms but the last one... simply because all fighting opponents had only one kingdom to go and joined it's forces to drive out vikings out and in the end it "conquered"/united whole england exception being wales/scotland/ireland. Ofc there's empire, but that can be thrown as scotland at that time period.. not worth of the effort as income is so low. Wales will be the nap:ed alliance towards BoB not one of the so called "slave corpses". Anyways just came to mind when reading a book if you want to play with that scenario but then again this is game where opponents don't die so we'll see how it goes with game mechanics. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
The Anointed Caldari KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.09 13:54:00 - [54] Take a look at the map, see all the sytems with bob sov. Now imagine just how long it would take for someone to remove their sov, destroy/deisable all their pos and take their stations. Now imagine trying to avoid ending up in a conflict with the MC and FIX while doing all of this. Think of the amount of isk you would have to pile into that task? Now think of doing all of this so that you can go home afterwards? What would the point be? If you dont plan on holding the space, then why bother attacking it? That imo coupled with how irritating a war of attrition and pos spamming apears to be, is why the major alliances dont want any part in actually destroying bob, because its not going to benefit them in any way, especially seeing as an alliance such as d2 have already shown imo that they can adequately defend themselves should BoB come knocking again. If however the alliance in eve did all attack bob and pile everything into it, eventually taking bobs systems all it would do acheive, imo, would be to create something worse. If the day comes when BoB no longer has a home and becomes a roaming fleet like it used to be, whislt still keeping their alliance together, then to put it politley, everyones ******.
Sun Ra Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:07:00 - [55] LV prob the only ones who could do some damage, d2 maybe but they seem lacking now days. TBH if any alliance really wants nail BoB you'll have to leave your space and take over delve, just attacking them isnt enough Arcane Frankologies - 'plz stop guys it's xmas'
Tangentoar Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Mallick Most people can not be arsed because they are forum warriors, they only pretend to dislike BoB. In reality they could not care less. Take D2 or IRON, it is not like they are 'busy' in the north, they just dont want to attack BoB because they might be next. In SMASH case I guess we are not done with E-R, CDC and PURE, so will not send people down to attack BoB. When will you be done with them?
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:10:00 - [57] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/11/2006 14:17:42 I think the beginnings of something like that is occuring in fountain. where xelas is under attack and their friends in bob are basicly saying tough (possibly as they need every pilot against Ascn at the moment) So Xelas is crumbling. Of course thats really bob space and xelas were just there as squatters and not to do all the grind boaring jobs to the uber Bobs can stay Ubermench. (I mean, someone had to emergency mine and haul all those minerals so you could emergency build that titan) And yes I know people who WERE in Xelas till.. umm.. this week actually Once that blue on the map goes (yeah right, that map wont change no matter how many people sit there woondering where bob is for how many months) it might shock Bob into doing something, but other than that, all there will be is more more crap on the forums and more hard fighting in the game (where it actually counts) You know I really should go to Delve for some ratting.. (yeah yeah I'm surre I'll see the all the systems infested with Bob and die immediatly.. Unfortunatly I've been over a year in the game so I'll believe that when the Devil is serving ice with his martinis) And no this is not an alt for Ascn. Bob has just spewed more forum crap to annoy me more, is all. Only time I have ever faced Bob personally is when 2 of their guys attacked a bunch of us in a complex and wound up bieng chased around the system for 15 minutes till one of them cloaked and the other logged. No they didn't kill anyone. I have seen a lot of ex BOB members floating about recently though. Oh well back to ratting.
Seran O'Car	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:10:00 - [58] Reason why other people don't attack BoB is becus their to chicken **** to do it. And there is to little in it for em.
maria stallion Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:13:00 - [59] Originally by: slothe oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. [/quote I can understand you slothe, but CELEST haven't attacked BOB directly during this war. How can they be heroes when they start attacking a alliance that has nothing to do with the conlict. Outbreak are bussy somewhere else before the war even started(good fighters though). I would have aspected more people helping ASCN, but on the otherhand they had 5000 members, where we have only 1500. ASCN hasn't attacked us much last week, that a disapointment in my eyes, eve should be fun and not boring, if ASCN needs to avoid conflict everytime it's gonna ruin the game for them and that just a pitty. Not corp opinion, but mine....
Cipher7	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:34:00 - [60] If you're going to support ASCN or attack BoB do it for the right reasons, not out of teary eyed pity. Eve is a PVP game after all, and destroying each other is part of the game.
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:42:00 - [61] Originally by: Nero Winger [ASCN - 3400 (it used to be 4000 at the begining of the war) Actually I think it was closer to 3600 from when I looked at it a month ago.. Nice try on OMG ASCN LOSING MASSES OF MEMBERS LOOK LOOK angle. Nasicly all we can really tell is bob have captured 1 station after a month Bob have not won It took bob a month to build a titan If things stay the way they are it will take BOB over a year to destroy ASCN Ego Bob VS ASCN = One huge massive slogfest And thats allowing for the forum 'distortions' I really wish people could sit down and just calmly discuss the fight rather than this utter rubbish people go on with. It probably the greatest battle in eve history and probably not even the people involved can relax and enjoy it. I wouldn;t be surprised if there are secret furuns for the guys fighting so actually discuss the fights, but the usual suspects will never know about them, and frankly tahst a good thing Anyway to those guys, have a blast. Ooh a rat! blasty blasty
Sunsets The Knights of the New Republic Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:45:00 - [62] Just curious, you guys mention the numbers difference between BoB and ASCN but this doesn't mean much till you have a server which can support an unlimited number of fighters does it?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:50:00 - [63] Wow, the thread title sound's so whiny it hurt, i can invisage someone going ' please please, help us, they are bullying us, sob sniff, we only have 5k members, using mercs and allies to fight there 1600 but thee too much, we need everyone to help us, sob sob, please please. Btw, sorry if that sound's harsh to you ascn, im directing it to the op coz it is ridiculously whiny. Keep up the good work my fellow BoB's and respect to ascn for being a decent opponent and having the cahoone's to fight on an alliance level Let's see who's standing at the end when the dust settle's
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:56:00 - [64] Originally by: laotse when ascn i gone lv is next the v ra aaa fix iron d2 eve will be one slave corp under bob and we can go all play wow and close eve no need for a new patch ans this is why ASCN is going to loose. Their own pilots are already getting ready for defeat. Shame to be honest. Real Shame. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Mr LovaLova The Pole Position	Posted - 2006.11.09 14:58:00 - [65] I support this idea and as morale boost i offer one exotic danser for each BoB kill provided by an outsider.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Himo Amasacia It took bob a month to build a titan Hmmm, investigate things before you post, please. I have absolutely no knowledge about how EVOL built their Titan ('gratz anyways, guys), but there are a few basic facts about building a Titan that're true for all. Manufacturing time is about 6 weeks. Research material time is about 1/2 year (just 1 level is a HUGE saving in materials) It takes a LOT of time to gather the materials and build the components, not to mention the ISK to buy the BPO's. It takes a LOT of time to transport all the components tothe build POS. It'd be foolish to store a BPO of a Titan in a POS, so it's probably best to make a copy first. Another 20+ weeks. Then, parallel to that, there is the training requirements to fly/fight it effectively. So seriously, even in the best case with no research on the BPO at all, it'd still take months to acquire a Titan, and probably 1/2+ year to train the skills for it. My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:12:00 - [67] Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itÆs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down. I really enjoyed the time I didnÆt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnÆt learn your lesson the first time. The truth will set you free
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:25:00 - [68] Originally by: Metal Dude Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Yes, the two formed a nap and decided to go after 2 of the weakest alliances in game (NBSI and PA). 5's "we don't hold any space" ended up as "we don't hold any space in the south". Then ATUK disbanded and formed DICE (who joined BoB) and [5] impoded. Are you saying that if/when BoB gives up its space, the same thing will happen again? _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Mace Ardguy Dark Wheel	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:26:00 - [69] Originally by: Razor Jaxx Why in hell would D2 / RZR / IRON & co intervene while their 2 biggest nemesis duke it out? That would be utterly stupid... ... because as it is right now they have the opportunity, not to "help" ASCN, but to defeat BoB. With ASCN acting like a punchbag BoB are distracted and committed. There's nothing to stop other BoB enemies from shooting ASCN too, but BoB would be the target. I don't think anyone is saying "come help ASCN". They are saying "Use this opportunity to take down the biggest military power in Eve". Quite where ASCNs might has gone who knows. THere was a time when they cleared out entire neighbouring regions because they didn't like who was there (Omist, Paragon Soul). There was a time when they could field 200 people to lock a system down (ECP8R). WHy take down BoB rather than ASCN? ASCN, for all their faults, largely stay in the same place going "geewhizz look what we can do" - Outpost, Titan, etc. They don't conquer, or expand, or aggress (ECP8R excepted). BoB are aggressive, and until they have everyone under their yoke, supplying them with their gear, their riches, their Titans, they will keep looking for the next challenge. Who will that be?
Uggs386 All Your Base R Mine	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:29:00 - [70] Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itÆs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down. I really enjoyed the time I didnÆt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnÆt learn your lesson the first time. ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point. Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:30:00 - [71] Originally by: Old Geeza Originally by: Metal Dude Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Yes, the two formed a nap ... This quote alone shows that you don't know what you are talking about. The truth will set you free
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:31:00 - [72] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 09/11/2006 14:17:42 I think the beginnings of something like that is occuring in fountain. where xelas is under attack and their friends in bob are basicly saying tough (possibly as they need every pilot against Ascn at the moment) So Xelas is crumbling. Of course thats really bob space and xelas were just there as squatters and not to do all the grind boaring jobs to the uber Bobs can stay Ubermench. (I mean, someone had to emergency mine and haul all those minerals so you could emergency build that titan) And yes I know people who WERE in Xelas till.. umm.. this week actually Once that blue on the map goes (yeah right, that map wont change no matter how many people sit there woondering where bob is for how many months) it might shock Bob into doing something, but other than that, all there will be is more more crap on the forums and more hard fighting in the game (where it actually counts) You know I really should go to Delve for some ratting.. (yeah yeah I'm surre I'll see the all the systems infested with Bob and die immediatly.. Unfortunatly I've been over a year in the game so I'll believe that when the Devil is serving ice with his martinis) And no this is not an alt for Ascn. Bob has just spewed more forum crap to annoy me more, is all. Only time I have ever faced Bob personally is when 2 of their guys attacked a bunch of us in a complex and wound up bieng chased around the system for 15 minutes till one of them cloaked and the other logged. No they didn't kill anyone. I have seen a lot of ex BOB members floating about recently though. Oh well back to ratting. BAHAHAHAHA You are smacking about the fact you could NPC in Delve. You are the uberest poster I have ever seen.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:33:00 - [73] Originally by: Uggs386 Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itÆs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down. I really enjoyed the time I didnÆt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnÆt learn your lesson the first time. ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point. Great. Then we'll see you here soon. The truth will set you free
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:36:00 - [74] dont know why we need another one of these, topic has been done to death, lot of people want ascn gone and alot of people want bob gone, now in what is possibly the most prime moment in the last year to accomplish this.... no one is really stepping up to the plate cept maybe AAA talk is cheap if you want something go for it, otherwise stfu and grab some popcorn Originally by: Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:37:00 - [75] Why should any other alliance bother to wade into a conflict that is in full swing? The only reason Xelas/FIX (and more loosely IAC/MC) are involved is that they occupy the space between ASCN/BoB. I'd imagine the smarter money would be on waiting until one alliance has all but exhausted itself in defeating the other. Besides I think ASCN and BoB are equally despised enough for people hope the conflict will destroy them both. Besides, 8 new regions and an awful lot more fun and creative ways of killing people, are coming in Kali. We're busy preparing for that. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!

Petwraith Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:04:00 - [76] Thread cleaned. Please do not flame, troll, post off topic or discuss recruitment in this thread. --- If it ain't orange, it ain't offical!

Infinity Ziona Privateers	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:09:00 - [77] Privateers has declared war on Band of Brothers alliance (BoB) and is requesting BoB surrender immediately and disband. Thank You. The Privateering Life
INZi coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:35:00 - [78] AAA on BOB = pwn'age'd
Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:38:00 - [79] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Have you ever thought that POS warefare simply isn't fun? Signed... did I just agree agree with a D2 chap
Uggs386 All Your Base R Mine	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:41:00 - [80] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: Uggs386 Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itÆs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down. I really enjoyed the time I didnÆt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnÆt learn your lesson the first time. ooooo ok i get it your talking about how the 5 crumbledafter losing its space, and atuk disbanded, wow good post you really proved a very valid point. Great. Then we'll see you here soon. yes because I obviously said I was going to attack bob, o thats right i didn't even infer anything of that sort, I have better things to do than have my 1 man corp get blobbed by you guys. Reading posts before responding to them usually will help prevent you from looking like an idiot. Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:47:00 - [81] Originally by: maria stallion Originally by: slothe oh and P.S. go CELEST and Outbreak, the only true heros of EVE. I can understand you slothe, but CELEST haven't attacked BOB directly during this war. How can they be heroes when they start attacking a alliance that has nothing to do with the conlict. Outbreak are bussy somewhere else before the war even started(good fighters though). I would have aspected more people helping ASCN, but on the otherhand they had 5000 members, where we have only 1500. ASCN hasn't attacked us much last week, that a disapointment in my eyes, eve should be fun and not boring, if ASCN needs to avoid conflict everytime it's gonna ruin the game for them and that just a pitty. Not corp opinion, but mine.... We didn't start attacking xelas during the BoB vs ASCN war. It was long beforehand, so I don't really get your point. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:50:00 - [82] Edited by: arkarsk on 09/11/2006 16:51:01 Originally by: Sharcy Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied? Am I the only one that finds it ironic, that if ASCN helped the goons against BoB earlier, and didnt just join the bandwagon and reset standings to 0 [or in axe's case, fight a prolong empire war vs the goons] - they could be helping you now.... or even better, this war may not even have happened! You guys are getting what you deserve. -----------------
BlackSabbath Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 17:02:00 - [83] problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos. they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have **ed on almost every alliance in the game. ================================ "i am only here to ** you off"
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.09 17:19:00 - [84] Originally by: Schani Kratnorr On a personal note, I find it discouraging that the one entity that could balance things out has abstained in this conflict. I know MC have their reasons, but come on, really, who among the community wouldn't have loved to see BoB vs. ASCN/MC? Instead of this (apparently) one sided fight?... Thanks for the vote of confidence Fact is that neither side really wants us there, and there's no sense in our going where we aren't wanted (and thus won't be getting paid). Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Porter Hadlend Gallente Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.11.09 17:52:00 - [85] Originally by: BlackSabbath problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos. they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have ****ed on almost every alliance in the game. While this comment is certainly filled with vitriol and blatantly hostile, I would agree that BoB do have a lengthy history of taking a giant dump on anyone and everyone, including those who have supported them, been friends with them or allied to them. A standing reset here, a pointless poem used to say what could have easily and better said in plain words, and hey, you've got yourself a winner. When did prose become the standard for public addresses anyways? Man that gets old fast. --------------
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:05:00 - [86] I have a spy in Fix and in the diplomat meetings they said they are preparing an attack against bob. reason being is that bob has back stabbed fix recently. I wonder if Avernus and Zangi would follow through with such a sneak attack!!! USN
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:18:00 - [87] Originally by: m0jo So why dont you take the initiative and attack BoB? because unlike the other alliances he listed(aside from lv) we are already in a war. whereas everyone else isnt.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:18:00 - [88] Originally by: BlackSabbath problem with bob is that its pointless to get on their good side, they will turn on you for the simple reason of being bored. bob has around 150 people in the alliance chat, 130 of those are fighting ASCN down south. any alliance can have a cake walk going throu bob space taking out poses one at a time. knowing how arrogant they are i bet that sovereignty is kept by a single pos. they should be destroyed for a simple fact that they have ****ed on almost every alliance in the game. Yes, axiom or ascn has never done that have they? Hi Tribal Souls. Hi FIX at the end of the CODA war. And you're right, some of our sov systems are indeed only claimed by one pos (woe betide us) but some ASCN have already tried killing our pos in Delve. Note the operative word here: TRIED. RKK has lost 1 small tower in this whole campaign (it was offline), any online pos has been defended suitably well to keep it operational. Would you like to buy a clue, or do they give them away to special cases like you? I'd suggest you be involved and actually, you know, put your money where your mouth is and ATTACK, rather than being an armchair general. No wait, you can't, because you can't handle aAa. buhu.
Mi Lai Sanguine Legion Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:21:00 - [89] The only problem with this war, is that one day it will end, and probably just have one looser . Why would anyone want to interfere now and risk it ending prematurely? Look at the possible scenarios: - BoB kills ASCN, creating a nice vacuum in space where there used to be a relatively strong power - WIN - ASCN kills BoB, unlikely, but would drastically shift the balance of power for all entities - WIN - They slug it out for a looong time, both sides expending tons of resources at each other, all others in EVE - WIN - Someone interfere's, chance of BoB returning home stating they achieved their objective in the South and the map remains largely unchanged - LOOSE For newer players eying on one day entering 0.0, this is a very nice gift of war to the community. May it last forever
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:24:00 - [90] Nothing surprises me anymore since returning to EvE. Everything has changed. Molle said at one point "There are no Goons", yet they spend their time fighting ASCN for some reason that is still unclear to me. But what is BoB gonna do? Come through LV space to hit Goons? What a logistical nightmare that would be. Long term, what is going on doesn't make sense, but then again maybe I don't know something about the new regions others do. LV isn't going anywhere, regardless of the constant posts. The server nodes weren't so easy to crash back in the day. Now they crash every weekend in our battles. EvE is predictable. Alliances will jump on the easier bandwagon. At least that is what I have seen.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:32:00 - [91] ... This discussion already happened a week ago.. it was started by Satan from Burn Eden. Satan's ... Clueless 4tw BoB vs ASCN thread... .. posters might want to read it before posting long posts.. that were already covered in that pretty comprehensive thread.
Gierling Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:35:00 - [92] In all honosty no one really wants to be the one to help the "hobbits". We may be personally liked, but as an organization we are probably the most disliked entity in the game. Because our style of play is "insulting" to "Real" eve players. We allow casual players and spend most of our time carebearing/building stuff. We don't "Pwn so hard" nor do we claim to or want to claim to. Everyone more or less thinks that we should be off playing Civ 4, or maybe mining veld in empire space, however (to paraphrase ATUK from long long ago) we don't deserve to be in 0.0 and anyone who removes us will do Eve a favor. At the very least we are seen as delusional, at most as vagrants and squatters. Either way no serious pvp entity thinks that we have any right to be in 0.0.
Estarriol Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:41:00 - [93] Originally by: Gierling Everyone more or less thinks that we should be off playing Civ 4, or maybe mining veld in empire space, however (to paraphrase ATUK from long long ago) we don't deserve to be in 0.0 and anyone who removes us will do Eve a favor. Everyone 'deserves' to be in 0.0 insofar as they are willing and able to defend their stake. There's nothing complicated or unduly harsh about it. -- Quote: ProphetGuru > It was a Wasp!
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:46:00 - [94] Originally by: Nero Winger Edited by: Nero Winger on 09/11/2006 15:43:43 Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: slothe Southern alliances - Where are you? LV v BoB would be interesting. Here in the south, everyone is a bit tied up already (Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied?) But yeah, if those that stand on the sideline now think BoB won't come for them at some time in the future if they manage to do away with ASCN, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why they didn't take the opportunity when they had it. Even if D2 don't want to help ASCN for example, they're not helping themselves in the long run if they let BoB get more powerful yet. (I'm speaking as an EVE player and community member here, not as an ASCNer) ASCN - 4300 (it used to be more) POS - a hand full of dudes (lets say 200) All the merc corps that you hired (lets say 150 player in these corps) makes a nice sum of 4650 player (active or not) against 1600 BoB player (active or not). and i know this are only numbers and stats but in a representative manner they can give some view on how the forces are divided. the fact that you loose systems and stations shows who has the upper hand. the fact tat you are 2-3 times more than we are and you are crying for help from the rest of eve is just a confirmation to me who is better at the moment. That's funny... where in his post did he cry for help for ascn? Another funny thing is that you've had BOB members and other EVE-O posters saying ASCN should trim some fat... and now BOB is quoting numbers of dropping membership as evidence that ASCN is getting ready to concede defeat. Ever think that the fat is being trimmed instead of saying "Look how uber we are, our war is costing ASCN members" but then that wouldn't serve the propaganda as well would it?
Koval Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.09 18:56:00 - [95] Originally by: maria stallion I can understand you slothe, but CELEST haven't attacked BOB directly during this war What fool would lead 50 active men corp directly against fleets of alliance that can easly bring houndreds of pvpers? We do our job in the way a corp of our size should do, come and visit us in fountain to see for yourself
Dirtball Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:03:00 - [96] Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Have you ever thought that POS warefare simply isn't fun? Yeah but to rollerbladers rollerblading is still extreme, unfortunatly ot everyone else fruitbooting is = to pos shooting.
DeltaH Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:05:00 - [97] Originally by: Gierling Because our style of play is "insulting" to "Real" eve players. We allow casual players and spend most of our time carebearing/building stuff. Want cheese? There are lots of casual players who spend most of their time carebearing/building stuff in BoB space. You aren't special. -DeltaH ---
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:14:00 - [98] Originally by: DeltaH Originally by: Gierling Because our style of play is "insulting" to "Real" eve players. We allow casual players and spend most of our time carebearing/building stuff. Want cheese? There are lots of casual players who spend most of their time carebearing/building stuff in BoB space. You aren't special. -DeltaH Yeah! humps roids Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:27:00 - [99] Edited by: Shardrael on 09/11/2006 19:27:59 crovan your sig is just awesome edit: ohh noes it rotates :/ well the one with the kitty and "the voices tell me to kill you" line is flipping amazing Originally by: Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:30:00 - [100] Edited by: Evil Thug on 09/11/2006 19:30:35 Originally by: Koval What fool would lead 50 active men corp directly against fleets of alliance that can easly bring houndreds of pvpers? We did - attacked 5ive. We make them leave with 16 active (14+ hours of playing EVE per day) players.
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:39:00 - [101] Originally by: Shardrael Edited by: Shardrael on 09/11/2006 19:27:59 crovan your sig is just awesome edit: ohh noes it rotates :/ well the one with the kitty and "the voices tell me to kill you" line is flipping amazing Well, because it's been so popular, I'll leave it up for a bit . Gah, I am getting confused. Which BoB/ASCN flamefest is this, again? Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Lone Bear Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:46:00 - [102] Well Slothe, maybe other alliances who dont like us are getting their gear sorted for Kali and its 8 new regions. 8 virgin territories, lot of blood and wrecks expected, so why loose ressources on BoB now? Just a thought tho.
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:47:00 - [103] Originally by: Gierling (to paraphrase ATUK from long long ago) we don't deserve to be in 0.0 and anyone who removes us will do Eve a favor. If you guys would of kept fighting instead of crying for a nap with ATUK you would not be in 0.0 Tbh I don't think anyone actully dare or care to try to take over Delve. You Will Cry My Name
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.09 19:50:00 - [104] No other leader in game, let alone Alliance have the co-ordination, time or energy to take on BOB as BOB do to others... True Fact. ____________________ MOGarmy
Lt Widowmaker Caldari StormTroopers	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:00:00 - [105] Edited by: Lt Widowmaker on 09/11/2006 20:00:10 bob this, bob that, get a clue everyone, start using every tool CCP put in the game and you can be just like bob. Here is how they win. They USE EVERY TOOL IN THE GAME LIKE THEY SHOULD BE USED! OMG now everyone is going to be just like bob.
Reto The Last Resort	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:01:00 - [106] i for my part think bob gave up their space to concentrate on ascn. i believe that they plan living in paragon since ascn developed the infrastructure there pretty nicely. its totally easy to conquer bobs space since there is no defence. all of bobs pilots sit in paragon soul trying to "steamroll" the inhabitants and ofc they sit here and carefully read any of ur posts and prepare for an answer. imo every alliance which settles in bobs space has a good time right now. if bob tries to defend its home ascn will roll in and bob will fight the conquerer and an angry bunch of hobbits who want a piece aswell. my 2 isk Originally by: s4mp3r0r "Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:01:00 - [107] [speaking as an individual...] If ASCN wants allies, then it should seek them effectively. Allies are based on mutual self-interest. If ASCN merely intends to dig in and wait this out, then there is no incentive for anyone to come battle BoB in the meanwhile. Tell ASCN to buy a major alliance a bunch of dreads specifically to go shoot BoB with. If ASCN lacks combat manpower, but has vast wealth (which seems to be the case), then leverage that for a win. I'm quite sure there is a price at which ASCN could literally buy itself friends. There's plenty of BoB dislike to go around. Do you really think it would be so hard to capitalize on that with good diplomacy and the right incentives? Forum spam isn't it. But its not so hard to come up with scenarios that make many things work. If ASCN was actually feeling significantly pressured (and who knows, maybe they aren't, hard to sort the garbage from the reality in this medium), then there are many options they could explore. Have fun.
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:03:00 - [108] Very simple to answer.. The North (in it's entirety) dislikes both ASCN and BoB. On a side note: Pos Warfare vs Suicide bombing Jita.. Hmm tough one there .
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:12:00 - [109] Why in the world would we in the North want to help ASCN by attacking BoB? I think the idea is to let the two beat on each-other while they ramp up production to deal with the onslaught that will surely come after this little issue down south is resolved. The North had been alight with flames for a long time. It's now in a stage of rebuilding. Even BoB takes building breaks. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
whisk 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:23:00 - [110] Quick somebody call the mgrl, they'll come and save the day for the mighty ascn!
DeltaH Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:28:00 - [111] Originally by: Mistress Suffering Tell ASCN to buy a major alliance a bunch of dreads specifically to go shoot BoB with. If ASCN lacks combat manpower, but has vast wealth (which seems to be the case), then leverage that for a win. I'm quite sure there is a price at which ASCN could literally buy itself friends. The problem with leveraging wealth is that you run the risk of the people you employ to fight realizing that they could skip the middleman and take the very source of your wealth you have now advertised you are unable to defend. -DeltaH ---
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:46:00 - [112] who is this bob guy that everyone hates? ________________________________________________________ For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
Acwron Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:46:00 - [113] Edited by: Acwron on 09/11/2006 20:56:09 If ASCN wants D¦ to "help" them they need to tell us first and come up with quite a bit of compensation... afaik this didn't happen yet. Why would we just go out to help ASCN? tbh I would be more concerned about RA/Goon/TCF/etc. than Bob... ___________________________________ As for the ASCN vs. BoB war. BoB is making very slow progress (1-2 systems in what 6 weeks?) though one must be surprised about ASCN inability to kill BoB dreads. A fool proof way to kill dreads given current BoB tactics (one can see their tactics pretty clearly on their killboard if one doesn't have an other information) should be a one page document. ASCN should have the resources and manpower to pull it off. They either lack the will to do it or the skill. If it's the later they should seek for proper campaign leadership and help. Given the current BoB tactics they cann't take a system without losing quite a few of dreads (even if it's only 1-3 per POS). If ASCN are unable to deliver whats the point in "saving" them? And as I said given resources and manpower it's foolproof. PS: from fleetbattle point of view AAA seems to be making better progress than BoB.
Dogsta Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:56:00 - [114] Edited by: Dogsta on 09/11/2006 20:57:13 It's been said before,99% of the "NORTH" are having a field day watching 2 of our biggest headaches beat on eachother. why should we "rally" and fight the "Ebil". who is the OP to decide who is evil? why is BoB more evil then ASCN? many times in this thread many persons sight "Fear" and "Cowardace" as reasons for the other big alliance to not step up and attack the ebil bob. got some newz for these people. We are not frightend by BoB, we are more then aware where they will likly turn after they finish with ASCN, although there is 8 "new" regions to play in soonish so maybe thats where well all be braking stuff. but honestly, why would any of us wish to really interfere in the little thing in the south except to maybe take a pot shot at unwary ascn/bob pilots? and as for the ungodlyness of playing POS wars in delve and Period Basis, I would waaay rather have my fingernails pulled out with tweezers. AWT 4TW [ 2006.08.19 23:00:03 ] Latton CALLAN > the win to TCF is to reach objective: having 0.0 space, soveraignty, station
Sean Dillon Caldari Privateers	Posted - 2006.11.09 21:24:00 - [115] We do what we can.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.09 21:39:00 - [116] Originally by: Gierling In all honosty no one really wants to be the one to help the "hobbits". We may be personally liked, but as an organization we are probably the most disliked entity in the game. Because our style of play is "insulting" to "Real" eve players. We allow casual players and spend most of our time carebearing/building stuff. We don't "Pwn so hard" nor do we claim to or want to claim to. Everyone more or less thinks that we should be off playing Civ 4, or maybe mining veld in empire space, however (to paraphrase ATUK from long long ago) we don't deserve to be in 0.0 and anyone who removes us will do Eve a favor. At the very least we are seen as delusional, at most as vagrants and squatters. Either way no serious pvp entity thinks that we have any right to be in 0.0. And you guys have been living up to all of those stereotypes perfectly so far. Prove everyone wrong and you might be surprised at the outcome. Originally by: Goberth Ludwig **** what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then? Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.09 21:54:00 - [117] Well......I want to quote a good-pvp¦er.... "You cant solo BoB". Well.....he¦s right. But he forgot "You also cant solo ASCN". If everyone would be honest, u should come to the conclusion, that noone knows the outcome of this war....even the two forces itself...... and no ASCN/BoB propaganda machine can change that. Lay down....cook tea.......eat popcorn....and enjoy the slughfest If ur allie is up to have a go against BoB....oh well.....so do it ffs. I did allready (not with this char).....had alot of fun. Nice battles, little smack.......I enjoyed it tbh....even after we lost. But was one of my best times, tbh. Learned alot. And at least, BoB makes EvE in somekind enjoyable (becouse atm I¦m bored of logoffskies, exploitskies and smackskies, TBH). Enjoy EvE After 3 years in EvE, I finaly can say, that I lost more ships due to lag and bugs, than in any battle.
Hugo Kaviene ThE CoVeN ParTnerShiP	Posted - 2006.11.09 21:58:00 - [118] Well, let's think about this. There are two different styles of play at hand. ASCN wants to maintain their sovereignty while flexing some of their muscles. Territorial gain for their growing population is the main impetus for their conflicts with neighbors. Their respect for foreign nation-states' sovereignty is questionable at best. BoB wants to flex its muscles by attacking someone who they regard as a challenging target. In the same token, BoB probably won't attack any old mom-and-pop alliances unless they have grown plump target for their pickings or just unluckily offended BoB. The way in which the two sides thrive at what they do is why they are at odds. Furthermore, the reason why other alliances are not taking sides is simple: the conflict still has yet to unfold to the scale of routs. ASCN membership hasn't quit in droves, their leadership has not quit, nor BoB's territorial holdings under constant and unrelenting siege (it's more operation by operation basis). The simple fact may be that other alliances are waiting to see who will come out at top, that inflection point will decide their involvement. But then again, who knows? Both sides may have miscalculated the odds of their eventual victory and this conflict may just yet fizzle into skirmishes. ---------------------------- Retiree I'm tending my Atomic Garden Sipping tea in a Uranium tinted glass
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 22:03:00 - [119] Originally by: Hugo Kaviene Well, let's think about this. There are two different styles of play at hand. ASCN wants to maintain their sovereignty while flexing some of their muscles. Territorial gain for their growing population is the main impetus for their conflicts with neighbors. Their respect for foreign nation-states' sovereignty is questionable at best. BoB wants to flex its muscles by attacking someone who they regard as a challenging target. In the same token, BoB probably won't attack any old mom-and-pop alliances unless they have grown plump target for their pickings or just unluckily offended BoB. The way in which the two sides thrive at what they do is why they are at odds. Furthermore, the reason why other alliances are not taking sides is simple: the conflict still has yet to unfold to the scale of routs. ASCN membership hasn't quit in droves, their leadership has not quit, nor BoB's territorial holdings under constant and unrelenting siege (it's more operation by operation basis). The simple fact may be that other alliances are waiting to see who will come out at top, that inflection point will decide their involvement. But then again, who knows? Both sides may have miscalculated the odds of their eventual victory and this conflict may just yet fizzle into skirmishes. FYI ASCN is down 1k members since the start of the war. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
batloard Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.09 22:42:00 - [120] Originally by: Dogsta Edited by: Dogsta on 09/11/2006 20:57:13 It's been said before,99% of the "NORTH" are having a field day watching 2 of our biggest headaches beat on eachother. why should we "rally" and fight the "Ebil". who is the OP to decide who is evil? why is BoB more evil then ASCN? many times in this thread many persons sight "Fear" and "Cowardace" as reasons for the other big alliance to not step up and attack the ebil bob. got some newz for these people. We are not frightend by BoB, we are more then aware where they will likly turn after they finish with ASCN, although there is 8 "new" regions to play in soonish so maybe thats where well all be braking stuff. but honestly, why would any of us wish to really interfere in the little thing in the south except to maybe take a pot shot at unwary ascn/bob pilots? and as for the ungodlyness of playing POS wars in delve and Period Basis, I would waaay rather have my fingernails pulled out with tweezers. hasent the past experiences changed your views???? what about VC vs bob and the hopeless defence of d4k? Tbh bob have ticked off many major alliances and they all refuse to budge. But respects to bob for actually bringing the fight to the enemy, very few alliances will. I personally would like to see ASCN win, if bob were gone it would give eve a seven kingdoms feel.
EL TITAN Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 22:48:00 - [121] Edited by: EL TITAN on 09/11/2006 22:48:38 Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 09/11/2006 19:30:35 Originally by: Koval What fool would lead 50 active men corp directly against fleets of alliance that can easly bring houndreds of pvpers? We did - attacked 5ive. We make them leave with 16 active (14+ hours of playing EVE per day) players. Hows that mothership ofs yours you were building?? Oh wait.... Oh and btw, in your dreams ;o _________________________________________________ <3 hi
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 23:22:00 - [122] Think alot of the reasons EVE is kinda stagnant/boring on the alliance vs alliance thing, and the reason alot more wars arent raging and people arent attacking BOB in a "meaningfull" way is purealy down to POS. Who wants to shoot POS? POS ruined the game in alot of ways imo, granted they have allowed alot of systems to be utilised that werent before, I remember when living in Tenerifis years ago, even before it got stations there were systems all over the place with good ore etc which no one could utilise, even when stations were placed mining 15 jumps away from one to mine nice ore was just not going to happen. But other than that, they suck donkey ****. Wanna hurt BOB or any alliance claiming 0.0 space you have to shoot bucket loads of POS, even forgetting about the fact its nigh on impossible with the server the way it is, it has to be one of the most boring things in EVE. Go in alliance chat and say "hey guys wanna spend a month shooting some POS?" and see how many people jump at the chance lol. CEO - Art of War
Oreh Anavrin No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 23:32:00 - [123] Agreed Nebuli. If BoB and ASCN fell then their would be a great power vacuum and I believe that choas would envelope eve. It would be fun times. But most seem to be gearing for kali so I shall hope that many wars come then. ________________________________________ 12 inches of pure t2 cruise missile looove
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 23:36:00 - [124] Originally by: Nebuli Go in alliance chat and say "hey guys wanna spend a month shooting some POS?" and see how many people jump at the chance lol. Erm, yes? Shooting pos is all about the setup. Kill enough of them, wind them down to reinforced timers constantly and you force a fight. It's not perfect but, well, if it bores you, oh well - we've adapted, can you?
Remmington Daniels Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.09 23:37:00 - [125] Originally by: Oreh Anavrin Agreed Nebuli. If BoB and ASCN fell then their would be a great power vacuum and I believe that choas would envelope eve. It would be fun times. But most seem to be gearing for kali so I shall hope that many wars come then. its not going to happen though is it. Incidently on a S vs N perspective isnt it 2-0 on Titans?
Eutectic Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 23:48:00 - [126] Once again another funny let's get BoB post. Honestly the named alliances by the OP that should attack are under no illusions that they could be next for BoB. News for you though, most of us don't care. Another news flash we've all had dealings with ASCN as well and are under no illusions about how quickly we'd be stabbed in back if we did help. Toss in the CCP lag machine and POS warfare as well and the incentive to become 'involved' is about zero.
Ysabelle nKataros Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 00:45:00 - [127] Originally by: ponieus FYI ASCN is down 1k members since the start of the war. correction: 619, or around 12% I don't know for certain, but I suspect paranoia and an attempt at alliance cleaning to be partially to blame. We've yet to see the kind of fragmentation that will indicate ASCN is falling apart. BoB: When we have fleet battles, our killboard crashes
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 02:08:00 - [128] Edited by: Nebuli on 10/11/2006 02:08:19 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Nebuli Go in alliance chat and say "hey guys wanna spend a month shooting some POS?" and see how many people jump at the chance lol. Erm, yes? Shooting pos is all about the setup. Kill enough of them, wind them down to reinforced timers constantly and you force a fight. It's not perfect but, well, if it bores you, oh well - we've adapted, can you? Yes I have adapted thanks, I left the POS wars behind when we left V and have been happy for it, we have actualy destroyed a handfull of POS since leaving V, and placed a MED low defended POS on purpose to try and force someone to attack it (which worked) but other than that avoiding POS fighting 4tw. So yes we have adapted thanks, we just avoid it, simple. CEO - Art of War
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 02:10:00 - [129] I "adapted" by mining on day 1 to shooting people on day 2. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.10 03:18:00 - [130] Hey hans.. i love the sig. that's a great game Fallout hehehe
Schani Kratnorr Federal Volunteers Office	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:35:00 - [131] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Schani Kratnorr On a personal note, I find it discouraging that the one entity that could balance things out has abstained in this conflict. I know MC have their reasons, but come on, really, who among the community wouldn't have loved to see BoB vs. ASCN/MC? Instead of this (apparently) one sided fight?... Thanks for the vote of confidence Fact is that neither side really wants us there, and there's no sense in our going where we aren't wanted (and thus won't be getting paid). Indeed. If you're not welcome and wont get a single ISK, then there is no reason to go. I didn't realize that neither side wanted you there, in fact I asumed (like many outsiders) that MC had deliberately stayed away from this fight because of the territorial ties between BoB and MC, but if ASCN dont want you there, well... I dont get it, but that's their choice I would have liked to see you mix it up, but alas the fight was always going to be one-sided with ASCN all by themselves. Time to lean back, grab some popcorn and watch the remainder of this entirely predictable "flick" How will ASCN get out of this? Will BoB succumb to the ordinary flu? How will X-mas effect the war if it lasts that long? And how will KALI1 effect the conflict provided ASCN doesn't disintegrate? Exiting... -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:38:00 - [132] Schani, do you really think the MC would make that much of a long term difference? MC are shock troops, they're not occupation soldiers. ASCN could spunk every single isk they have on contracts with MC and, at the end of it, even IF them being involved forced us on the backfoot, BoB would still be standing and ASCN would be even poorer than if they tried dealing with us themselves. What is perhaps even more interesting is that the number of people saying "attack BoB" or being armchair generals in this war actually outnumber those who are actually fighting. Strange that. As for those that "avoid pos", good luck to you, it's not for everybody, I guess after three years we over here in the high end enjoy putting 25b+ of ships on the line, maybe we've run down the adrenaline so much we just need bigger hits. Who knows.
Fubear Vogon Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:45:00 - [133] BoB have built themselves a reputation, their roar is most definately worse than their bite, but it seems to be working well for them. Established alliances who think they could take BoB probably already have conq space and dont have a reason to attack. Other alliances who want to take conq space probably believe they cannot take BoB (this may or may not be true) and will attempt to conquer easier space instead. BoB is definately weaker now, but you need to find people who (A) want the space and (B) think they can win. Not so easy to find at the moment.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:49:00 - [134] Originally by: Fubear you need to find people who (A) want the space and (B) think they can win. Not so easy to find at the moment. tadaaaa....we have a winner. Thats the answer to the OP's question, period.
TalanR Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:07:00 - [135] I personally think that BoB is fighting ASCN so they can use it as an excuse for ignoring Goon. They said that Goon wasnÆt allowed to control 0.0 space and now that they have it everyone is looking to BoB for a reaction to this. ItÆs to much of a coincidence that when Goon started taking control of 0.0 space BoB attacked ASCN. plz correct me if i'm wrong TalanR *this is my personal opinion and doesnÆt reflect the opinion of my corporation or alliance
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:18:00 - [136] Edited by: Nebuli on 10/11/2006 15:18:04 Originally by: Dianabolic Schani, do you really think the MC would make that much of a long term difference? MC are shock troops, they're not occupation soldiers. ASCN could spunk every single isk they have on contracts with MC and, at the end of it, even IF them being involved forced us on the backfoot, BoB would still be standing and ASCN would be even poorer than if they tried dealing with us themselves. What is perhaps even more interesting is that the number of people saying "attack BoB" or being armchair generals in this war actually outnumber those who are actually fighting. Strange that. As for those that "avoid pos", good luck to you, it's not for everybody, I guess after three years we over here in the high end enjoy putting 25b+ of ships on the line, maybe we've run down the adrenaline so much we just need bigger hits. Who knows. "We over here in the high end" ? I've played since release if thats what youre getting at, I joined a pvp corp after 2 weeks into the game and was part of the original great northern war with Jade Constantine and TTI etc. Been involved with ALOT of POS warfare putting billions of ISK on the line, its NOT fun, doesnt matter if it was 100 billion ISK being put on the line, that doesnt make camping gates and shooting POS "fun" does it? Honestly from your post, think you REALY need to get over yourself.... CEO - Art of War
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:27:00 - [137] Originally by: Nebuli I've played since release if thats what youre getting at, I joined a pvp corp after 2 weeks into the game and was part of the original great northern war with Jade Constantine and TTI etc. Been involved with ALOT of POS warfare putting billions of ISK on the line, its NOT fun, doesnt matter if it was 100 billion ISK being put on the line, that doesnt make camping gates and shooting POS "fun" does it? Honestly from your post, think you REALY need to get over yourself.... That's nice for you. Whether you like it or not the "empire building" part of EvE IS the high end. You can't build an empire if you prevent yourself from playing parts of the game, ESPECIALLY pos, cap ship assembly and outpost construction. And, honestly, from your post, I don't think you "get" it, so whether or not I need to get over myself is really immaterial, because I've made it as clear as I possibly can. "we don't do pos" = "you'll never benefit from pos" and, without that, no, you're not in "the high end" of eve gaming - that being the construction, or destruction, of an empire.
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:41:00 - [138] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Nebuli I've played since release if thats what youre getting at, I joined a pvp corp after 2 weeks into the game and was part of the original great northern war with Jade Constantine and TTI etc. Been involved with ALOT of POS warfare putting billions of ISK on the line, its NOT fun, doesnt matter if it was 100 billion ISK being put on the line, that doesnt make camping gates and shooting POS "fun" does it? Honestly from your post, think you REALY need to get over yourself.... That's nice for you. Whether you like it or not the "empire building" part of EvE IS the high end. You can't build an empire if you prevent yourself from playing parts of the game, ESPECIALLY pos, cap ship assembly and outpost construction. And, honestly, from your post, I don't think you "get" it, so whether or not I need to get over myself is really immaterial, because I've made it as clear as I possibly can. "we don't do pos" = "you'll never benefit from pos" and, without that, no, you're not in "the high end" of eve gaming - that being the construction, or destruction, of an empire. Think you dont get it tbh, I'll try in a different way.. Been there, done that, got multiple T-shirts, its NOT fun. This is a game, you do what makes the game fun, shooting POS, fueling POS yadda yadda is NOT fun. CEO - Art of War
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:11:00 - [139] Originally by: Nebuli This is a game, you do what makes the game fun, shooting POS, fueling POS yadda yadda is NOT fun. Funnily enough we're enjoying this time in PS. Funnily enough we have pilots, dirty evil combat orientated pilots, volunteering to run pos. Is complex'ing every day, fun? Mining? Agent running? Empire trading? We do all of those things, too. It's not our problem you guys aren't creative enough to come up with ways to find fun in the boring jobs that HAVE to be done, so don't tar us with that brush, thanks.
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:19:00 - [140] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Nebuli This is a game, you do what makes the game fun, shooting POS, fueling POS yadda yadda is NOT fun. Funnily enough we're enjoying this time in PS. Funnily enough we have pilots, dirty evil combat orientated pilots, volunteering to run pos. Is complex'ing every day, fun? Mining? Agent running? Empire trading? We do all of those things, too. It's not our problem you guys aren't creative enough to come up with ways to find fun in the boring jobs that HAVE to be done, so don't tar us with that brush, thanks. Hmm? Tar with what brush? I said you do what makes the game fun, for us running POS, gate camping and shooting POS ISNT fun so we "us" not "you" dont do them, if "you" find it fun thats great, carry on doing it and hope you have fun doing it in the future, more power to you. What my "original" point was before you tryed to turn it into a you dont play the game properly or p***ing contest, is that ALOT of others are similar to us, have been there and done it before and found it about as much fun as pocking yourself in the eye with a sharp stick, so we dont do it anymore, we do what "we" find fun. This is why alot of people are unwilling to attack ASCN/BOB/Any other alliance claiming 0.0 space in a way that will actualy HURT them, in other words conquer their space, because as said above its NOT fun for "us" so we dont do it, its as simple as that. Personaly know of a whole heap of corps that have left 0.0 alliance warfare and gone back to pvp in empire/tryed to go merc/attack random alliances etc etc to get away from POS, its a growing concern for me tbh, atm pvp IS more fun in non claimable 0.0 and empire for a large majority of players. CEO - Art of War
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:22:00 - [141] Originally by: Nebuli ...atm pvp IS more fun in non claimable 0.0 and empire for a large majority of players. Fair enough, so why were you trying to TELL me that doing all of the pos stuff "is NOT fun" (your words)?
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:46:00 - [142] IMO, ASCN should just liquidate all of their assets, retreat to Empire, and empty out all of the Empire belts in existence. Would be interesting to see them with a monopoly on Veldspar...
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:47:00 - [143] Edited by: Angela Toren on 10/11/2006 16:50:42 Nobody is taking a swing at BOB for the simple reason that they are afraid of future repercussions. Lets take a hypothetical scenario: 1. Several alliances move en-masse south and stick bob hard in the back. 2. Bob get smashed and loose control of all territory. 3. Bob members start leaving/going into hibernation. 4. Sirmolle for the first time ever is reduced to humble words and declares the end of BOB. 5. Six months later bob reforms seemingly out of nowhere and systematically starts taking out each alliance that attacked them. 6. Everyone panicks, bob wins eve. The time is perfect to attack BOB, and yes your alliance could be the first to proudly claim you destroyed bob. But the consequences if they return are too much for some to risk. One day there will be no more bob, but rather than risk everything killing them, most would perfer them to self combust CA-style.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:10:00 - [144] Originally by: Angela Toren Edited by: Angela Toren on 10/11/2006 16:50:42 Nobody is taking a swing at BOB for the simple reason that they are afraid of future repercussions. eh, nah, not so much It's like others have been saying. We have no desire to help ASCN at all, and that's the bottom line. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:26:00 - [145] The sheer lack of idiocy shown throughout this thread is surpassed only by the lack of information shown by armchair generals whom lack any understanding of who BoB are. Quote: 1. Several alliances move en-masse south and stick bob hard in the back. We have left the back door open (mgrl stay away from this) for some time now for anyone. Quote: 2. Bob get smashed and loose control of all territory. Well there ya go... that's the kicker isin't it. Rather fitting this is topic number two seeing as it's a pile of crap. The BoB gets smashed thing. That's the linchpin all this tinfoil hattery turns on, and it's a linchpin that noone has been able to put in place and capatilize on. Quote: 3. Bob members start leaving/going into hibernation. Have to make number 2 happen to begin with. That said, we are not like imperium, pa, fa etc. We don't have a bunch of crying carebears. Our carebears are better then most alliances primary pvp corps. Quote: 4. Sirmolle for the first time ever is reduced to humble words and declares the end of BOB. You have a better chance of seeing McGreedy and DBP exchanging love letters this week then you do of every seeing Molle being humble. Quote: 6. Everyone panicks, bob wins eve. We already won actually, weather anyone realizes it or not. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:38:00 - [146] Originally by: Angela Toren 3. Bob members start leaving/going into hibernation. Do you have any idea how many of our members came back from hibernation for this war? The scenario you're talking about would be more likely to bring people out of hibernation than send them there.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:46:00 - [147] Edited by: Fred0 on 10/11/2006 17:55:10 Gotta love the armchair generaling. How about you instead work hard enough in this game so that you can make all the moves you suggest. I¦m a member of the north and I¦ve shot EVOL since the day of the FA coupe and BOB since their formation through the GNW and all the other ***** times they've been up north so imho you can all just shut the ** up. And I¦ll continue to shoot them after 95% of the forum audience here has either begged for naps from them or joined them. The most ironic of these re tards ofcourse being the ASCN mob who has most definitely had all 5000 of their members dig their own grave. I¦m enjoying every second of this war so pls stop with the questions about the north and let the ASCN/BOB propaganda take center stage. EDIT: In short. Noone has fought them longer than us up north so pls cut us some slack and grow some brains and balls yourself.
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:53:00 - [148] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Nebuli ...atm pvp IS more fun in non claimable 0.0 and empire for a large majority of players. Fair enough, so why were you trying to TELL me that doing all of the pos stuff "is NOT fun" (your words)? Comes back to getting over yourself tbqh. Was refering to ME not YOU. The question asked by the OP is why more people dont attack BOB, the simple answer is most people myself included have absoltely zero desire to shoot POS after POS for weeks on end. Again that wasnt refering to YOU. CEO - Art of War
Lone Bear Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:19:00 - [149] Originally by: ProphetGuru Quote: 4. Sirmolle for the first time ever is reduced to humble words and declares the end of BOB. You have a better chance of seeing McGreedy and DBP exchanging love letters this week then you do of every seeing Molle being humble. Quote: I wanna read those letters!
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:24:00 - [150] Edited by: Dianabolic on 10/11/2006 19:26:20 Originally by: Nebuli The question asked by the OP is why more people dont attack BOB, the simple answer is most people myself included have absoltely zero desire to shoot POS after POS for weeks on end. Other than the fact that you don't NEED to shoot at pos to come shoot at us (we don't hide) you never said the words "I", or "we", you said "YOU". As for getting over myself, well, that may well be true, I guess seeing as you're to soft to come do anything about it though I'll just sit here laughing at you.
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:29:00 - [151] Originally by: Dianabolic Edited by: Dianabolic on 10/11/2006 19:26:20 Originally by: Nebuli The question asked by the OP is why more people dont attack BOB, the simple answer is most people myself included have absoltely zero desire to shoot POS after POS for weeks on end. Other than the fact that you don't NEED to shoot at pos to come shoot at us (we don't hide) you never said the words "I", or "we", you said "YOU". As for getting over myself, well, that may well be true, I guess seeing as you're to soft to come do anything about it though I'll just sit here laughing at you. Are you saying that to defeat BOB all it would take is to shoot at you some? no one would need to remove any of your POS? Honestly listen to yourself, like being back at junior school, "my dad could beat your dad up" CEO - Art of War
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:33:00 - [152] In the vein of referring to the "op", he said "attack", not "beat". There's a difference.
Lag Fest CAPITAL TRUST FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:35:00 - [153] OH PLEASE!!!!! gimme a break.. "buhu ppl lets get together and kill off the big bad monster" Cmon lets get real a bit here..Engaging BoB would mean immense POS wars, countless hours spent staring at the warp bubbles and for what? Because BoB are killing off the incompetent excuse for an alliance? please. And also by this time, ASCN don't have that many friends left. _______________________________________
Nebuli Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:56:00 - [154] Originally by: Dianabolic In the vein of referring to the "op", he said "attack", not "beat". There's a difference. Theres a difference? CEO - Art of War
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:18:00 - [155] cant be bothered to read all this hot air, which group of forum warriors have actually declared war on BOB? I can imagine the OP has plenty of excuses why he wont, otherwise posting this might have meant he had to do something.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.11 22:18:00 - [156] Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/11/2006 22:19:14 I think the problem is simple. Boredom that goes with alliance warfare > Destroying BoB's forum attitude. We all want to kill BoB because of how some of them act on here, thing is we can't be arsed. Credit to BoB, along with RA they're the only organised group of individuals in this game who can be bothered to partake in the boredom that is all-out alliance warfare. It's the whole warfare concept in Eve thats broken, it'd be better if it was just a glorified game of capture the flag. It boils down to the 'empires being too easy to create but too hard to destroy' thing again if you ask me. If the game is going to progress as it is we need better tools for dismantling entities. Hi slothe o/ :) Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.11 22:30:00 - [157] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Nebuli Go in alliance chat and say "hey guys wanna spend a month shooting some POS?" and see how many people jump at the chance lol. Erm, yes? Shooting pos is all about the setup. Kill enough of them, wind them down to reinforced timers constantly and you force a fight. It's not perfect but, well, if it bores you, oh well - we've adapted, can you? I think "We can be arsed, can you?" is a better choice of words tbh Diana. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Dogsta Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.11 22:51:00 - [158] Originally by: Angela Toren Edited by: Angela Toren on 10/11/2006 16:50:42 Nobody is taking a swing at BOB for the simple reason that they are afraid of future repercussions. Wrong. if most of us were scared of BoB we wouldn't shoot them everytime we see them, low sec thru to true 0.0 . The part you and many others are missing is We dont care if ascn falls, or if BoB falls. We have no love for either. AWT 4TW [ 2006.08.19 23:00:03 ] Latton CALLAN > the win to TCF is to reach objective: having 0.0 space, soveraignty, station
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.11 22:56:00 - [159] Edited by: LUKEC on 11/11/2006 23:00:19 Edited by: LUKEC on 11/11/2006 22:57:11 Quote: I think "We can be arsed, can you?" is a better choice of words tbh Diana. We can be... there are few reasons: a. poses can't be insured, so little griefers in us are satisfied b. poses can't logoff c. poses can't hide inside pos shields d. we can do whoruming while doing it e. tbh we have nothing else to do in this "war" ... Yes there is better pvp than shooting poses, I agree. But we are satisfied with situation atm since there isn't any better available anywhere. Let me explain this little further: i'll gladly exchange moros for mega and go to fight any time, but I'll take moros over mega any time that i'd have to waste sitting in POS for 10 hours. Edit: I forgot something: poses are also like gifts, you never know what will pop out of some structures ----------------------------------------------- KALdarI WILL SAVE US ALL...
Jonny Damordred Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.11 23:12:00 - [160] Originally by: slothe Can some other Alliances please atack BoB? No. Cheers, Jonny D. -----
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 00:25:00 - [161] Originally by: welsh wizard I think "We can be arsed, can you?" is a better choice of words tbh Diana. tbh WW, I agree with you. Insofar as, we can be arsed to sit at a pos, destroying assets, to force a fight. We're not content with it falling in our lap (as thankful as we are when that happens), we WILL go out and force the fight - killing pos is stacked in favour of the defender, everyone knows this - so we deserve no discredit for doing so. If people won't defend their assets, then oh well - in the type of warfare it requires (and yes, I agree, it could do with improving - though lag is still the #1 issue for me and I have presented a number of ideas for sovereignty and alliance warfare to CCP that would improve (imo ofc) this type of gamesmanship) we're quite happy to win the "isk race" by taking down the towers.
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.12 01:52:00 - [162] dia it must be hard to have no live at all i feel sorry for you m8 mail in game if you wanne talk 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 01:56:00 - [163] Originally by: laotse dia it must be hard to have no live at all i feel sorry for you m8 mail in game if you wanne talk As is quite obvious, in the absence of other people to talk to I am quite happy conversing with myself. Thanks for the offer though, I'll note your name down as a good samaritan.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.12 02:08:00 - [164] Edited by: Lorth on 12/11/2006 02:09:55 Originally by: Metal Dude Emmm, no one can defeat BoB except BoB itself. All that can be done to BoB is BoBs space can be taken away. People with short memories should be reminded what happens when a PVP force gives up/loses itÆs space and goes looking for payback. EVE history FTW. But please, by all means. Come on down. I really enjoyed the time I didnÆt have to worry about protecting, destroying, fueling POSes, guarding stations, freighter runs and could concentrate on shooting 23/7 for 6 months strait. Those were the days. You remember that Slothe? Remembers what happened to your alliance when you ganged up on ATUK / [5] and thought you could finish us off? Too bad you didnÆt learn your lesson the first time. You know I think this post rings the truest of anything thats posted on this thread as of yet. CA lost thier space, and then all hell broke lose on the Eve landscape. How many alliences died and lost thier space during that time? [5] left thier space and wondered around. And no sane person could ever spin that as a good out come for PA (part 3) or NSBI or FE. Cause lets face it they got beat down pretty hard. I don't know what would happen if BOB were to suddenly come under attack from all sides. I don't think they could handle it TBH, at least an organized effort from a lot of people, there's not much doubt they would end up back in empire because of it. Though given whats happened in the past, and given how close knit the corps seem to be. I would think the best thing for most alliences is to let them do their thing while you remain in peace. Though people seem to forget a lot of things. 1: Organising a mass allience attack like this would be something that eve has not seen ever. Sure EC was a massive attack, but in the end it only lasted a week, and thats not enough time at all. Something this big has never been done, ever, and would take much more then a week, it simply wouldn't last long enough before they started to shoot eachother. 2: When I think about the pilots I know in Razor Iron, and D2, I don't think they actually care who wins. Bob are there sworn enemys, but I would honestly bet RL money that the majority of thier pilots want BOB to destroy ASCN rather then the other way around. There is no doubt in my mind that if they do attack BOB it certainly will not be to help ASCN. 3: Errmmm.. ASCN... They kinnda have to be in this thing by default don't they? I know I'm supposed to be nuetral in this whole thing given my corp choice. But there is no way in the world that anyone can say having ASCN by your side in a fight is a good thing considering thier track record against pretty much everyone else. There's nothing one sided in looking at what currently happening and saying ASCN arn't very good, since that pretty much the obvious conclusion. 4: Why? Why is there this constant idea that BOB have to die? Do you know what needs to happen, everyone else needs to get as good as BOB. How about rather then trying to knock the precieved top player down, we all focus on why they are as good as they are and work on ourselves? "hey they are better then us lets all gang up and kill them" theroy only works to the point where you relieze that even if it works, your still a crummy allience at the end of it. You know eve as a whole would be better served if people took a look at what BOB does to be as good as they are and then tryed to take them selves to that level. The reasons they are the power block in this game are pretty obvious to me, though I freely admit that I don't have the skills to mold a group of my own like that. But surly there has to be someone else in eve that has the common sence to see what BOB do well, and the leadership skills to make it all work in anouther allience?
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.12 05:19:00 - [165] Shooting POS makes you throw up blood. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 05:36:00 - [166] Originally by: Lorth Why is there this constant idea that BOB have to die? Do you know what needs to happen, everyone else needs to get as good as BOB. How about rather then trying to knock the precieved top player down, we all focus on why they are as good as they are and work on ourselves? "hey they are better then us lets all gang up and kill them" theroy only works to the point where you relieze that even if it works, your still a crummy allience at the end of it. You know eve as a whole would be better served if people took a look at what BOB does to be as good as they are and then tryed to take them selves to that level. The reasons they are the power block in this game are pretty obvious to me, though I freely admit that I don't have the skills to mold a group of my own like that. But surly there has to be someone else in eve that has the common sence to see what BOB do well, and the leadership skills to make it all work in anouther allience? Quoted for absolute 100% truth.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.12 05:48:00 - [167] Edited by: Murukan on 12/11/2006 05:57:08 eek you're right, and i'm running out of bans too Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 05:54:00 - [168] Originally by: Murukan Do you make sure to coddle the balls when you go down on BoB as well? Cause you know it really makes the whole experience better Here's hoping you get a forum ban for that one. There's no place on these forums for that crap.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:07:00 - [169] Originally by: Ab Initio Edited by: Ab Initio on 12/11/2006 06:01:12 Originally by: Murukan ... Here's hoping you get a forum ban for that one. There's no place on these forums for that crap. As for the actual post by Lorth, it was spot on. Nez made the same point within the last couple of days in his own posts (I would assume thats why he QFT). Personally I would have considered it common sense, however your post seems to indicate that it isn't so common after all. Well tbh i think there are alliances out there that are good enough to take the fight to you guys they just get caught up in the forum hype that you guys do so well that they forget about the pair between their legs and nap everything instead. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:09:00 - [170] Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2006 06:15:53 Originally by: Ab Initio Nez made the same point within the last couple of days in his own posts (I would assume thats why he QFT). Yep pretty much Ab... the problem ofc is that you can say things like this that are true till you are blue in the face. Some people... and it seems there are a lot of them around, just won't get it, which probably explains the gargantuan gap between BoB and most of the rest of EVE. [edit:typo]
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:14:00 - [171] Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2006 06:18:06 Originally by: Murukan Well tbh i think there are alliances out there that are good enough to take the fight to you guys they just get caught up in the forum hype that you guys do so well that they forget about the pair between their legs and nap everything instead. Thats a load of rubbish and you know it Murakan.. assuming there are entities out there that are as good as BoB is when it comes to 0.0 affairs.. then why should what BoB do bother them? If there is an alliance out there as good as BoB is, then BoB's actions won't be as important to them as everybody makes them out to be.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:20:00 - [172] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 12/11/2006 06:21:02 Muru, everything has a time and place. Nothing lives forever .
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:28:00 - [173] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2006 06:18:06 Originally by: Murukan Well tbh i think there are alliances out there that are good enough to take the fight to you guys they just get caught up in the forum hype that you guys do so well that they forget about the pair between their legs and nap everything instead. Thats a load of rubbish and you know it Murakan.. assuming there are entities out there that are as good as BoB is when it comes to 0.0 affairs.. then why should what BoB do bother them? If there is an alliance out there as good as BoB is, then BoB's actions won't be as important to them as everybody makes them out to be. I never said as good at 0.0 affairs since there's a lot more to affairs than just fighting. There are plenty of alliances out there that can fleet fight plenty well. They aren't exactly complex operations which is why it's so puzzling that ascn seems to be so bad at them. I'm just saying that there are alliances that could really bring the fight to BoB but unfortunately the idea of disrupting their carebear heaven is too much for them. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:38:00 - [174] Edited by: Nez Perces on 12/11/2006 06:41:21 Originally by: Murukan I'm just saying that there are alliances that could really bring the fight to BoB but unfortunately the idea of disrupting their carebear heaven is too much for them. Wait a second..... you are saying that there are alliances out there that could fight BoB but can't be bothered because they are too busy carebearing...... well let them.. whats it to you? They obviously think that carebearing is more important.. and it probably is... more power to them... right? You know whats really going on here... I'll tell you what it is.. and you won't like to hear it. There are a bunch of people out there that at the mere mention of BoB go into a crazed frenzy and start foaming at the mouth.. unfortunately they are too lazy/inept/lacking in-game time to actually do anything about it bar rant on the forums. By ranting on the forums, they hope against hope that somebody will do what they want to do and can't.... Thats the sad truth ... and the only possible explanation why this kind of thread manages to hit 6 pages twice within the space of a week.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:40:00 - [175] what would the forums be without ranting Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:40:00 - [176] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 12/11/2006 06:40:34 Originally by: slothe Cmdr "Primary" Woodlouse , comon dude you could have defeated 5 before and failed to do so, you going to fail to act again now? What are you talking about? 1. We failed to defeat 5 when they disbanded? confused 2. I dont have any leading position anymore since D2 started. 3. I emigrated to spain and play eve for exacctly 1 hours a week. I have better things to do tbh. -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:50:00 - [177] Originally by: Murukan what would the forums be without ranting perhaps.. but there is something to be said for ranting that has a purpose or some logical conclusion to it.... This "Somebody attack BoB pls, pretty pls with Sugar ontop" rant is retarded.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.12 14:54:00 - [178] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Murukan what would the forums be without ranting perhaps.. but there is something to be said for ranting that has a purpose or some logical conclusion to it.... This "Somebody attack BoB pls, pretty pls with Sugar ontop" rant is retarded. Got any better ideas Nez? Aye. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:27:00 - [179] Originally by: Abriana Overlord Originally by: Master OlavPancrazio Have you ever thought that POS warefare simply isn't fun? Signed... did I just agree agree with a D2 chap your no longer my daddy i cant even talk to you right now
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:36:00 - [180] Originally by: Reto i for my part think bob gave up their space to concentrate on ascn. i believe that they plan living in paragon since ascn developed the infrastructure there pretty nicely. no that was a single corp called setenta that put up 3 outposts in paragon not ascn
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:56:00 - [181] Originally by: Miss Overlord RA versus BOB could be intesting shame its opposite sides of hte map boring.... time zone diff etc... Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
Side Effect Hun Recruit Team	Posted - 2006.11.12 16:30:00 - [182] Edited by: Side Effect on 12/11/2006 16:34:15 ...here is something unexpected: Originally by: Kuolematon Kuolematon > Well soon we will have alliance named "Band of Perverts" .. we will be like BoB .. cool AND pervert. That sounds challenging, what if they will attack BoB.
Kin Hanyerec Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 17:24:00 - [183] Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 12/11/2006 17:26:01 From 2 years ago... Originally by: slothe My further conclusion of the situation is this. As BoB is the new CA they should be treated as such. I would invite, encourage and personally assist any anti-pirate corps / alliances to attack them in any way they can. The quote is out of context now, anti-piracy were your motives at that time, but the message is still the same. They didnt listen to you that time. I hope they will now, and i think everyone in bob hope the same. Edit : It is funny that you are in forsaken empire now
Arakk Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 17:56:00 - [184] na the north is busy doing more important things, killing locusts in geminate.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.12 18:46:00 - [185] Originally by: welsh wizard Got any better ideas Nez? Aye. I suggest you read Lorth's post repeatedly till you understand it, failing that get Papa Solo to read it to you...
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 07:59:00 - [186] Originally by: Nifel Come to Ao Nang and I'll buy you a beer :). And yes please. Someone else attack us. hmm im in ao nang now, you a resident or tourist?
James Duar Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.11.13 08:39:00 - [187] You know I saw this thread again today and suddenly thought to myself, "if you're afraid of BoB, why not rip into ASCN's side instead?" I mean, they're large, being depleted by a war with another large entity (which despite everything, objectively really doesn't seem to be going well). If you wanted a 0.0 region slice then now might be the time for smaller corps and alliances to go and attack them.

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