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Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:16:00 - [361] Originally by: DB Preacher it's a pointless conversation Well said, if only about 12 pages too late. --
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:25:00 - [362] Have ASCN actually killed or come remotely close to killing a BoB dread? And apart form the two small pos at the start have they killed or forced into reinforced any BoB deathstars If they havn't its all kind of irrelevent as they will lose every station they have (like paragon soul), unless of course you intend to continue this war from stain/empire?
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:37:00 - [363] BOB are planning on ASCN war extending to march then RA is up after that
Fassin Zakalwe Amarr BlueTuba	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:42:00 - [364] Meaningless coming from a mere slackjawed yokel like myself, but good to see some intelligent and humorous rebuttals from Mr Gung. Makes a refreshing change from the equal mix of gratingly condescending and rabidly nonsensical BoB posting, who seem to believe all agreeing with each other while endlessly repeating the same points will somehow make it so in the minds of... er, someone. But meh, couldn't resist posting a message of support against the barrage. - Ooooomph!
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:42:00 - [365] Originally by: Miss Overlord BOB are planning on ASCN war extending to march then RA is up after that First, we need to populate paragon soul and esoteria with pet, err, slave, err partner corps. To mine and pay insane taxes. ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 12:52:00 - [366] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Sivona Have ASCN actually killed or come remotely close to killing a BoB dread? And apart form the two small pos at the start have they killed or forced into reinforced any BoB deathstars If they havn't its all kind of irrelevent as they will lose every station they have (like paragon soul), unless of course you intend to continue this war from stain/empire? They haven't come close to killing any of our dreads, at all. They haven't managed to put any of our deathstars in paragon soul into reinforced since they lost their dread fleet in h8- weeks ago (they did some stuffs in tpar right at the start but I'm not 100% sure on the facts as I wasn't there). Currently, they are not fighting for paragon soul at all. Unless they do something they will lose their last outpost there very soon. Blacklight's offer to the ASCN corps is a reflection of the fact that as an alliance they are losing this war without so much as a whimper (except on the forums it seems). dbp In tpar they managed to kill 3 small towers. Thats it
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:00:00 - [367] Edited by: Darcuese on 15/11/2006 13:05:50 Originally by: Hast Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Sivona Have ASCN actually killed or come remotely close to killing a BoB dread? And apart form the two small pos at the start have they killed or forced into reinforced any BoB deathstars If they havn't its all kind of irrelevent as they will lose every station they have (like paragon soul), unless of course you intend to continue this war from stain/empire? They haven't come close to killing any of our dreads, at all. They haven't managed to put any of our deathstars in paragon soul into reinforced since they lost their dread fleet in h8- weeks ago (they did some stuffs in tpar right at the start but I'm not 100% sure on the facts as I wasn't there). Currently, they are not fighting for paragon soul at all. Unless they do something they will lose their last outpost there very soon. Blacklight's offer to the ASCN corps is a reflection of the fact that as an alliance they are losing this war without so much as a whimper (except on the forums it seems). dbp In tpar they managed to kill 3 small towers. Thats it They did try to take down gq2 deathstar....but ended up with losing dread (not sure if 1 or more anymore) from mostly BoB ceptors. But the point is...nothing happened the way ppl asumed it would from large alliance as ASCN. And tbh, after all this time i been part of this war....it wont be something I will brag about to my kids and grandkids. I expected "a bit more" resistance or something (no matter which way-pew pew or puting poses and such) then this Darth Solo=McCready...in different package
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:06:00 - [368] Edited by: Joram McRory on 15/11/2006 13:17:19 Edited by: Joram McRory on 15/11/2006 13:16:51 Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 15/11/2006 10:57:42 Originally by: Joram McRory What i said was that you can't have it both ways. Either you are killing us in droves, or we can only muster 20 people each night. As the former is amply documented to be true on both the BoB and ASCN kill boards, and the latter is a clear flame by Rift, I really fail to see how you mis-understood me?? Joram, you are misquoting something I said originally. No - I was quoting Rift Scorn from earlier in this thread (can be bothered to track back now). Originally by: DB Preacher Last night was good and bad for ASCN. I think I covered that in my original reply to Rift (buried about 3 pages back I guess) Joram My Photography site
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:19:00 - [369] Edited by: DeadDuck on 15/11/2006 13:20:37 Originally by: ZelRox First, we need to populate paragon soul and esoteria with pet, err, slave, err partner corps. To mine and pay insane taxes. I love this kind of statments... "keep digging your grave" is what comes to my mind
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:25:00 - [370] Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 15/11/2006 13:20:37 Originally by: ZelRox First, we need to populate paragon soul and esoteria with pet, err, slave, err partner corps. To mine and pay insane taxes. I love this kind of statments... "keep digging your grave" is what comes to my mind I think he was trying to be ironic/funny. Still, you know what they say, "the truest things are often said in jest"
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:27:00 - [371] Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 15/11/2006 13:20:37 Originally by: ZelRox First, we need to populate paragon soul and esoteria with pet, err, slave, err partner corps. To mine and pay insane taxes. I love this kind of statments... "keep digging your grave" is what comes to my mind I think he was trying to be ironic/funny. Still, you know what they say, "the truest things are often said in jest" Indeed
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:31:00 - [372] Originally by: Dawn Princess Still, you know what they say, "the truest things are often said in jest" it is "many a true word is spoken in jest" IIRC Dawn you nub :-) . Joram My Photography site
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 13:37:00 - [373] Im just astonished by wisdom and clevernes of some ppl Darth Solo=McCready...in different package
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:17:00 - [374] Originally by: BlackDog Rackh'am Whole lot of stuff. /signed If my CEO or alliance leader would be smeared on the forums I will back him up 100%. If you smear one of us, you smear us all. Doesn't make any difference if that person might be wrong or right on a few issues. Nobody is perfect. Besides thats just between her/him and the rest of the corp or alliance. Not for outsiders who show no respect whatsoever. If you post stuff from our boards? Not important since you're not one of us. Entertaining at best though. And when its used and twisted to put a bad rep on a single person its just plain silly. Using personal attacks on individuals is totally wrong and unneeded.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:39:00 - [375] Quote: Using personal attacks on individuals is totally wrong and unneeded. You mean us attacking Cyvok for failing as a leader (he has, i mean, unless you count losing a war in every way so far a success) is a personal attack when it stays within the game context. Yet when Cyvok uses a 'private' forum to depict the entire BoB alliance as quake-addicted basement living node hackers with ADHD then that's just fine and dandy because you don't care as long as it's posted in 'private'. Tell me, how does that work exactly ? You actually mean that the fact that we are kind of overdoing the forums show is unfair on the enemy because he has so littel to hit us back with ? Is that it ? A call for more fairness ? No ? Then tell me. What is wrong exactly ? I know, it's the same thing I personally don't like about the last days on these forums. There's no more care for appearances. There's no more allowance for reason. And there's simply too much of the same stuff being repeated. If that's it, then I agree. However, whining about us becoming too personal against ASCN's leadership is rather silly, since it is calculated insult within the context of a fictional war in a fictional setting. Other then, you know what I mean. Not to mention the stuff hurled at that reporter guy. But it's all good, I'm willing to let all f this rest and start with a clean slate. No more rehashing of old stuff if ASCN lets it go as well. No more the same arguments and no more same idiocy. Hell If i can be helped less posting overall and more sensible posting instead. Let's start it .... friday. k ? Old blog
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:49:00 - [376] Heh, allowance for reason? A bit late to get concerned over that now isn't it Rod? For months, if not years, BoB forumwarriors have spewed crap about everyone and anything on these forums, and now you suddenly notice 'there is no more allowance for reason'? Or is it that you're seeing more and more people simply stopped believing you, and you might actually start to hurt a bit from all the nonsense you've been drivelling on about? But whatever, perhaps we should just give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Though I know I'm not putting any money on how long you can keep the BoB 'epeen waxers'-union in line
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:04:00 - [377] Edited by: Darcuese on 15/11/2006 15:09:52 Originally by: Malachon Draco Or is it that you're seeing more and more people simply stopped believing you, and you might actually start to hurt a bit from all the nonsense you've been drivelling on about? Mama mia...this man got us disposed (hmm, probably grammar fault as ussualy...ment...read through us) Well, Im so sad there isnt any gambling thread moderated by CCP so ppl could put their money/ISK where their mouth is. So, after a while , when most things would be seen as true or lies....ppl could become millioners or poor without taking chances in belts, etc,etc Darth Solo=McCready...in different package
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:12:00 - [378] Originally by: Malachon Draco Heh, allowance for reason? A bit late to get concerned over that now isn't it Rod? For months, if not years, BoB forumwarriors have spewed crap about everyone and anything on these forums, and now you suddenly notice 'there is no more allowance for reason'? Or is it that you're seeing more and more people simply stopped believing you, and you might actually start to hurt a bit from all the nonsense you've been drivelling on about? But whatever, perhaps we should just give you the benefit of the doubt for now. Though I know I'm not putting any money on how long you can keep the BoB 'epeen waxers'-union in line I'm not talking about keeping anyone in line here. As far as I am concerned that which has been said here by BoB members is true in all respects. But, I simply think neither BoB nor ASCN is going to get much further here at this time, by rehashing the same old arguments. I'm here to have fun, not to grow bored with re-use of stuff that's already been said a dozen times. That's me personally. So, we're all bored with the same odl crap BoB spews at people here. Time to change the subject then. What would you like to talk about ? Old blog
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:34:00 - [379] Originally by: Malachon Draco For months, if not years, BoB forumwarriors have spewed crap about everyone and anything on these forums, and now you suddenly notice 'there is no more allowance for reason'? And only when it is directed at you do you suddenly start to take offense to it? Hypocrites. Where were you when we did the same to FA? Imp? CODA? IRON? G / D2? hmmmm? Funny, was it? You've made your bed, now lie in it, we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say.
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:34:00 - [380] Edited by: Vathar on 15/11/2006 15:35:54 Bah, we should mostly store every bit of content hurled at us and just do as our glorious leader and shove it back down the throat of the loud mouthed opposition after they are proven bull**. Yeah, Mc Creedy said we were leaving for PotBS in 6 months? too bad, I'm just gonna put a lil' note down my calendar and see how many of us are left when this times come. We'll just see who's right and who looks like a fool. Cyvok posted in his "Glorious attempt to boost morale" that a Titan is pretty useless in its current state ... Bah, our own golden 'shroom seems to be used on the frontlines, maybe not at its fullest extent yet, but it serves its purpose. Attacking the Xelas outpost in PNQ would disrupt our supply lines and force us to split our forces to defend it ... Well, I think Xelas got their outpost back and I don't think we sent too many forces there ... (This one might not be a genuine lie, just a bad strategical decision) Oh, and if we read back from old morale blogs, I don't find plans to "assault tpar" or "open 1 or 2 new fronts to put the pressure on us using the immense numbers and colossal ressources of the Alliance" anymore. I even heard somewhere that they can't use dreadnoughts since they have a tendency to get slaughtered where they stand ... After so many grand plans and threats that went down the drain, while stations are captured, Some people should realise that there were probably a few delusions running into ASCN. The list goes on ... One thing concerned me, and that's Gungankiller's indirect acknowledgment of Bob using H4xsploits. Sure, you didn't say you believe it, but you admitted that some facts tend to make you doubt, and honestly, that's one step too far. I may not be privy to the alliance's inner councils, but I know a fair share of Bob pilots that would immediately QUIT the corp and spead the word around if they got evidence of h4xxsploits used by our side. I would hit the "leave corp" button at the second I learn about it. I can keep things civil about most things that happen ingame, but you can only be called a cheater so many times a day before it gets boring ... We've been accused of getting our fleets moved by a GM, yet, as far as I'm aware, there have been no other consequences than empty slander. We're also accused of crashing nodes or using headshot macros? Yeah, as if a major alliance could go away with this without GM going wild on us? Unless a majority of GM are indeed Bob players and then tinfoil hattery becomes all the rage in parties! But yeah, it's a well documented fact I'm all for a nicer tone in the debates, but that attitude has the lifespan of an icicle in hell. We have a better chance of ending up like RL history where the victor writes the history ... Originally by:** Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:42:00 - [381] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Malachon Draco For months, if not years, BoB forumwarriors have spewed crap about everyone and anything on these forums, and now you suddenly notice 'there is no more allowance for reason'? And only when it is directed at you do you suddenly start to take offense to it? Hypocrites. Where were you when we did the same to FA? Imp? CODA? IRON? G / D2? hmmmm? Funny, was it? You've made your bed, now lie in it, we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say. Wait, who was asking for more polite discourse here? Me? Or was it one of your own? I'm just questioning your motives. And if those other alliances let you get away with that crap, not my problem. But thanks for admitting you've been spewing crap for years. I must admit that I've been playing for less than a year myself, so I probably missed most of it.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:52:00 - [382] Originally by: Malachon Draco Wait, who was asking for more polite discourse here? Me? Or was it one of your own? I'm just questioning your motives. And if those other alliances let you get away with that crap, not my problem. But thanks for admitting you've been spewing crap for years. I must admit that I've been playing for less than a year myself, so I probably missed most of it. I don't really care for polite discourse tbh, if you want to go that route with Rod then by all means, feel free, don't expect me to fluff with you on these forums when you support and follow such examples as LYVOK and McGreedy. When the latter two delinquent pod pilots decide to stop lieing then we may stop making them look like fools. It's gonna be hard to do though, because it's just so easy. And, tbh Malchon, if you've only been around a year, might I suggest you look at the history of your alliance, no need even go back to XETIC, you'll find some horrifying tactics were used.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 15:54:00 - [383] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Malachon Draco Wait, who was asking for more polite discourse here? Me? Or was it one of your own? I'm just questioning your motives. And if those other alliances let you get away with that crap, not my problem. But thanks for admitting you've been spewing crap for years. I must admit that I've been playing for less than a year myself, so I probably missed most of it. I don't really care for polite discourse tbh, if you want to go that route with Rod then by all means, feel free, don't expect me to fluff with you on these forums when you support and follow such examples as LYVOK and McGreedy. When the latter two delinquent pod pilots decide to stop lieing then we may stop making them look like fools. It's gonna be hard to do though, because it's just so easy. And, tbh Malchon, if you've only been around a year, might I suggest you look at the history of your alliance, no need even go back to XETIC, you'll find some horrifying tactics were used. You really don't get it do you?
Jaleera Kaisin Amarr Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:20:00 - [384] Edited by: Jaleera Kaisin on 15/11/2006 16:25:55 Edited by: Jaleera Kaisin on 15/11/2006 16:23:51 Originally by: Dianabolic ....., we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say. lie 1 /laɪ/ noun, verb, lied, ly‧ing. ûnoun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. 2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one. 3. an inaccurate or false statement. 4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers. ûverb (used without object) 5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. 6. to express what is false; convey a false impression. ûverb (used with object) 7. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties. . . . .Mmmmm Hmmmmm
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:22:00 - [385] Edited by: Darkstar BP on 15/11/2006 16:22:31 Originally by: Dianabolic You've made your bed, now lie in it, we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say. Finally you admitted it. Was that so difficult? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lieing Originally by: Dianabolic Where were you when we did the same to FA? Imp? CODA? IRON? G / D2?
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:23:00 - [386] Edited by: Darkstar BP on 15/11/2006 16:24:17 Shoot Jaleera, you beat me :( But you must admit my link is nice
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:28:00 - [387] Originally by: Darkstar BP Edited by: Darkstar BP on 15/11/2006 16:22:31 Originally by: Dianabolic You've made your bed, now lie in it, we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say. Finally you admitted it. Was that so difficult? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lieing Originally by: Dianabolic Where were you when we did the same to FA? Imp? CODA? IRON? G / D2? do you really have so few points to argue that you have turned into the grammar police? even if its in jest its meh...
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:42:00 - [388] Originally by: Rod Blaine However, whining about us becoming too personal against ASCN's leadership is rather silly, since it is calculated insult within the context of a fictional war in a fictional setting. Other then, you know what I mean. Not to mention the stuff hurled at that reporter guy. You get offended if you get to be called quake-kiddies on a private forum but yet a 'calculated insult within the setting of the game' is OK? Using personal attacks on individuals is totally wrong and unneeded.
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:43:00 - [389] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Darkstar BP Edited by: Darkstar BP on 15/11/2006 16:22:31 Originally by: Dianabolic You've made your bed, now lie in it, we're lieing in ours, and it's nice and warm in this electric blanket basement bedroom, I must say. Finally you admitted it. Was that so difficult? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lieing Originally by: Dianabolic Where were you when we did the same to FA? Imp? CODA? IRON? G / D2? do you really have so few points to argue that you have turned into the grammar police? even if its in jest its meh... TBH its all they really got. They pick out the misspellings and roll with it. While we pick out a station and take it. Love it.. Have fun picking up the spelling mistakes while we have a blast taking your regions. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.15 16:48:00 - [390] Edited by: Darkstar BP on 15/11/2006 16:49:12 Originally by: Hast do you really have so few points to argue that you have turned into the grammar police? even if its in jest its meh... Enter...Hast... the forum police man. On a more serious note, see this as a concerted effort to reduce your fun in posting all kind of 'offers' to the alliance pilots, the alliance corporations, all kind of out-of-context posts on our internal boards, all kinds of other stuff. All these inputs get countered with our views on things, and sometimes with our observations. We don't have to take these observations from internal in-game chat in the heat of the moment, we take our observations from these forums. I admit, some more to the point, and some more for our own entertainment. Of course we have a lot of views and a lot of observations to make. See, we are having fun...You sound bitter. I think the language education part of these forums should not be underestimated, it may be the most enduring part of the learning effort that is the Eve-O forum. Think about that.

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