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NAFnist Rage of Angels	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:47:00 - [1] Give them hell - Regards NAFnist
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:47:00 - [2] -- IT'S A TIE! -- Quote: 2006.11.17 15:45 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Brutally Clever Empire. Quote: 2006.11.17 15:46 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Maelstrom Alliance. Hugh has now spoken and the winners have been notified. The wars kick off in just a couple mins. See you guys out there. Oh, and stop tearing down your POS's. That's cheating. PS to the enemy: Now stop sending me mails asking for the Hugh banner. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:48:00 - [3] Hi guys ! o/ Max --------------------
Tripline Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:48:00 - [4] Edited by: Tripline on 18/11/2006 15:48:21 1st! or not :( ___________________
NAFnist Rage of Angels	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:49:00 - [5] Originally by: Tripline Edited by: Tripline on 18/11/2006 15:48:21 1st! or not :( NAFnist > Tripline ;p - Regards NAFnist
Ghasti Gallente principle of motion R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:50:00 - [6] Have fun ;) Recruitment
matty01 No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:54:00 - [7] gl
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:55:00 - [8] Have fun and stuffs.
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:57:00 - [9] Good luck and have fun to both sides :)
Leosian Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 15:59:00 - [10] cry havoc and watch the enemy scatter...
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:00:00 - [11] Duration? Location? _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Old Geeza Duration? Location? Follow the killboard? :)
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:01:00 - [13] Cool :) Seeya in space! -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
Tripline Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:06:00 - [14] Originally by: NAFnist Originally by: Tripline Edited by: Tripline on 18/11/2006 15:48:21 1st! or not :( NAFnist > Tripline ;p aww that wasnt nice /cry ___________________
elohllird Gallente Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:10:00 - [15] Have fun guys
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:12:00 - [16] A Hugh banner, I feel complete at last! \o/ [orange]Your signature is too large. Please see the http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/forumrules.asp[yellow]
Eddie Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:14:00 - [17] seleene you looked sexy on eve TV
enymphia Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:16:00 - [18] well happy hunting and all that stuff :) cya at the finish line
Chi Prime Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:16:00 - [19] :D
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:26:00 - [20] Quote: Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Brutally Clever Empire. Probably the most onesided contract MC has ever taken. A majority of fresh faced new players who will just get their T1 frigs popped or sit in the stations. not so much a war of attrition for you guys, but a "Who can stay awake the longest" MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Timmy Bettenson Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:33:00 - [21] w00t
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:34:00 - [22] Have fun and cya in space
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:36:00 - [23] Originally by: merc999 Quote: Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Brutally Clever Empire. Probably the most onesided contract MC has ever taken. Nah, that would be Vertigo Coalition tbh... Quote: A majority of fresh faced new players who will just get their T1 frigs popped or sit in the stations. not so much a war of attrition for you guys, but a "Who can stay awake the longest" Or they could all undock in suicide Kestrels and gank a couple HAC's! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
NAFnist Rage of Angels	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Tripline aww that wasnt nice /cry Sorry Forgive me? - Regards NAFnist
Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:42:00 - [25] ♥ for the banner ---------------------- [FTEK] Pwning Eve Carebear Style
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:55:00 - [26] at Seleenes reply, normally I would be supporting MC , but this time I will grab my bag of popcorn and a beer and flag wave for the little guy GL MC though I doubt you will need any, and "Go Foom" MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Myz Toyou the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:06:00 - [27] Tell the truth Seleen, you only go for Maelstrom for the reason you could sneak in ASCN space from the backdoor
Kaleeb Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:11:00 - [28] Woo should be fun
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Myz Toyou Tell the truth Seleen, you only go for Maelstrom for the reason you could sneak in ASCN space from the backdoor He saw right through us
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:15:00 - [30] so you going after mael's outpost of is that a bonus? Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Ferocious FeAr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:16:00 - [31] What have you done for me lately? Fun times ahead! __________________________________ Don't hate me, learn to love me.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:16:00 - [32] hmm, I'm not familiar with these targets, any chance of some information about them? Good luck chaps, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
V0rador Amarr Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:23:00 - [33] Good luck MC !
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:30:00 - [34] W=oo
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:33:00 - [35] Hope this helps... Maelstrom are an industrialist based Alliance with some pew-pew guys scattered in it, generally they keep to themselves and are not a massive threat to anyone in the grand scale of things. Recently they have been the target of IAC as they put a shiny new outpost up in I-NGI8 a few months ago (just east of ISS KDF). The rocks there arn't particuarly good but at the time the area was quiet and the investment in the outpost would have looked like a good idea for some quiet 0.0 carebear'ing life. They were Part of the Coalition, but pretty well much left to fend for themselves with no assistance en masse from its partners (Meatshield?) to be fair they were learning as fast as can be expected on how to deal with attacks from outside. When IAC started to turn the screw and pressurise the outpost a change of heart occurred at the top level in Maelstrom and IAC and they both Napped each other last month, IAC stating a new target had been aquired for them (chimp?). In doing so, "M" ****ed off their former Coalition masters and no doubt this is the result. Im sure a fading alliance is trying to make a point to the rest of its Meatshields. Lets be honest with KOS in the east and "M" in the west they aint been keeping control to well... Off course the above is speculation... One last point of note, a rather juicy 10/10 gate and 8/10 are close by the outpost (very close) "M" do not have the combat power or mindset to control these and the Russian Afiliate corps/Alliances farm them. Single outpost, easily shut in - i would expect "M" to struggle to retain this outpost, they will lack support i suspect. From what i saw when i was down there they still needed another few months of dealing with constant attack to sharpen up the FC's tactics.
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:34:00 - [36] Don't know anything about us? see our lovely website to educate yourself.
Ribbo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil Hope this helps... Maelstrom are an industrialist based Alliance with some pew-pew guys scattered in it, generally they keep to themselves and are not a massive threat to anyone in the grand scale of things. Recently they have been the target of IAC as they put a shiny new outpost up in I-NGI8 a few months ago (just east of ISS KDF). The rocks there arn't particuarly good but at the time the area was quiet and the investment in the outpost would have looked like a good idea for some quiet 0.0 carebear'ing life. They were Part of the Coalition, but pretty well much left to fend for themselves with no assistance en masse from its partners (Meatshield?) to be fair they were learning as fast as can be expected on how to deal with attacks from outside. When IAC started to turn the screw and pressurise the outpost a change of heart occurred at the top level in Maelstrom and IAC and they both Napped each other last month, IAC stating a new target had been aquired for them (chimp?). In doing so, "M" ****ed off their former Coalition masters and no doubt this is the result. Im sure a fading alliance is trying to make a point to the rest of its Meatshields. Lets be honest with KOS in the east and "M" in the west they aint been keeping control to well... Off course the above is speculation... One last point of note, a rather juicy 10/10 gate and 8/10 are close by the outpost (very close) "M" do not have the combat power or mindset to control these and the Russian Afiliate corps/Alliances farm them. Single outpost, easily shut in - i would expect "M" to struggle to retain this outpost, they will lack support i suspect. From what i saw when i was down there they still needed another few months of dealing with constant attack to sharpen up the FC's tactics. nice post, dont know if its an accurate representation (cos i've not heard of them either), but it was a nice read. Ribbo - fanboi'ing eve-celebrities the world over.
Justice forHungary Amarr Wings of Turul Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:43:00 - [38] MC = Good fight o7 I'm feeling sorry, to fight with the BoB
Timmy Bettenson Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:46:00 - [39] Edited by: Timmy Bettenson on 18/11/2006 17:47:11 Edited by: Timmy Bettenson on 18/11/2006 17:46:51 Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil Hope this helps... Maelstrom are an industrialist based Alliance with some pew-pew guys scattered in it, generally they keep to themselves and are not a massive threat to anyone in the grand scale of things. Recently they have been the target of IAC as they put a shiny new outpost up in I-NGI8 a few months ago (just east of ISS KDF). The rocks there arn't particuarly good but at the time the area was quiet and the investment in the outpost would have looked like a good idea for some quiet 0.0 carebear'ing life. They were Part of the Coalition, but pretty well much left to fend for themselves with no assistance en masse from its partners (Meatshield?) to be fair they were learning as fast as can be expected on how to deal with attacks from outside. When IAC started to turn the screw and pressurise the outpost a change of heart occurred at the top level in Maelstrom and IAC and they both Napped each other last month, IAC stating a new target had been aquired for them (chimp?). In doing so, "M" ****ed off their former Coalition masters and no doubt this is the result. Im sure a fading alliance is trying to make a point to the rest of its Meatshields. Lets be honest with KOS in the east and "M" in the west they aint been keeping control to well... Off course the above is speculation... One last point of note, a rather juicy 10/10 gate and 8/10 are close by the outpost (very close) "M" do not have the combat power or mindset to control these and the Russian Afiliate corps/Alliances farm them. Single outpost, easily shut in - i would expect "M" to struggle to retain this outpost, they will lack support i suspect. From what i saw when i was down there they still needed another few months of dealing with constant attack to sharpen up the FC's tactics. plz do some research in future : D
enymphia Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil Hope this helps... Maelstrom are an industrialist based Alliance with some pew-pew guys scattered in it, generally they keep to themselves and are not a massive threat to anyone in the grand scale of things. Recently they have been the target of IAC as they put a shiny new outpost up in I-NGI8 a few months ago (just east of ISS KDF). The rocks there arn't particuarly good but at the time the area was quiet and the investment in the outpost would have looked like a good idea for some quiet 0.0 carebear'ing life. They were Part of the Coalition, but pretty well much left to fend for themselves with no assistance en masse from its partners (Meatshield?) to be fair they were learning as fast as can be expected on how to deal with attacks from outside. When IAC started to turn the screw and pressurise the outpost a change of heart occurred at the top level in Maelstrom and IAC and they both Napped each other last month, IAC stating a new target had been aquired for them (chimp?). In doing so, "M" ****ed off their former Coalition masters and no doubt this is the result. Im sure a fading alliance is trying to make a point to the rest of its Meatshields. Lets be honest with KOS in the east and "M" in the west they aint been keeping control to well... Off course the above is speculation... One last point of note, a rather juicy 10/10 gate and 8/10 are close by the outpost (very close) "M" do not have the combat power or mindset to control these and the Russian Afiliate corps/Alliances farm them. Single outpost, easily shut in - i would expect "M" to struggle to retain this outpost, they will lack support i suspect. From what i saw when i was down there they still needed another few months of dealing with constant attack to sharpen up the FC's tactics. hmm... not the Maelstrom i know of
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:53:00 - [41] If you disagree state why and where... At least be contructive in your opinion.
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:54:00 - [42] Traditionally I suppose ]v[ has had a large industrial base however through necessity and circumstance this has changed. We are currently predominantly tied up with UNL and Volition Cult in Immensea hence we are not often seen in other regions however I can assure you though that we have not done a KOS. It is worth bearing in mind that around the time that we resumed friendly standings with IAC CHIMP did as well, traditionally we have always been friendly with IAC and so our standings change with them merely reflected a return to the norm rather than a turning away from the coalition.
IntegralHellsing Gallente Blazing Saddles	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:55:00 - [43] i think Admiral Kane... Cough Seleene is hawt ------------------------------ Waaa they removed my sig cuz it was 35kb! =(
Riazal The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.18 17:58:00 - [44] Edited by: Riazal on 18/11/2006 17:59:56 Cant wait for this to end so i can read Seleene's after action report But good luck to all involved hope you have lots of lag/smack free fights. Darn it i need a new sig !!!!!! Sig By Zephyr
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:01:00 - [45] Ok honest question then. Do you expect Coalition forces to come to your Aid during your War. UNL (Russion affiliate Alliance)are more than happy to see you as Neighbours as you do not have a serious pressence in the timezones that count to effect their Complex mining efforts. Dont even think that they contracted MC to remove you. IAC - as stated they arn't the enemies now, you actually share a lot in common with them as potential freinds. That leaves the Coalition, yes you retained your polical ties with them, but honestly how long did you think you could sit on the political fence being nap'd with two oppossing forces. Obvioulsy i painted you as a non Aggressive alliance, that might be unfair and maybe your pew pew skills at protecting owned turf are getting better. Its been a month since ive been down there and if thats the case time will tell and i bow to your viewpoint on that.
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:08:00 - [46] <3 u seleene cant wait to pew pew against u on the field likkle poem i made (through boredom and spam yeehaw!) 'from hell i ascend from heavens gaze i fall landing a blow to all those who stand so tall, heavens paid fall before my face, what a pity i have to see all those people fall in disgrace where ever the sword shall fall i shall deliver the pain, creating a path of destruction my enemy i shall always tame' cant wait to fight ye MC, ive been a fan of ye since the start
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:12:00 - [47] An honest answer: Yes I would expect the coalition to come to our aid if they could (though we are aware that they are rather preoccupied with RAGOON atm) We do not think UNL hired the MC (we have ideas who we think did but I don't think we will ever find out for certain) We know we have a lot in common with IAC, we aren't friendly with them just for the sake of it. As for the coalition and IAC, we have always been friendly with IAC. Regrettably we were briefly hostile with them due to an agreement we made with CHIMP that put us in a rather impossible situation but that is sorted out now. We do not feel our standings with IAC interfere with our standings with the coalition. On a personal level I believe that the coalition and IAC would be better off putting old grudges behind them and resuming friendly standings but of course that is their choice and not mine.
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:17:00 - [48] On that we agree then JabJab... With the ever increasing pressure comming from the East from Racoon and from the West from BoB, the divided Central Southern Alliances probably need to get a grip sooner or later and get around a table and get some things sorted out. Time is ticking as these rather 2 large entities are moving towards each other attempting to sweep a divided opposition aside in their path.
Eddie Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:29:00 - [49] RAGOON? sounds like racoon, amusing
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:29:00 - [50] BRUCE Alliance(Brutally Clever Empire) is a relatively new alliance in the Aeschee/area of Essence (Empire), although made up of mainly industrial corps they recently gave a pretty good account of themselves against 9th Fleet Alliance, (which led to 9th leaving the area for Genesis) and the mercenaries that 9th Hired. mainly by mass equiping (Blobbing) their industrialist in T1 frigs with ECM. As to who hired them , the only folks I can think that would , would be the aforementioned 9th Fleet, however various 9th fleet council members have denied this in private communications. MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Timmy Bettenson Caldari Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:31:00 - [51] hmmm , first blood to Maelstrom : D
Robert Ger Caldari Apocalyptic Raiders Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:41:00 - [52] Edited by: Robert Ger on 18/11/2006 18:44:13 Welcome MC¦s to Malestrom space, thx for the first fight, hope we can do more as in Ex FA ;) EVE Bugs that popp my ship; and and more comes [list] Lagg game/client freezes Concord shotet my ship down, while iem attacked a Gurista NPC ^^ [*]Overview/mail/peppz an
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:03:00 - [53] To muadbib, I hope you don't think we are napped with UNL ?? that would be like you napping ISS ... oh ... wait ... No, we are pew pew with UNL :) -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
Matrix Aran Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:05:00 - [54] Looking forward to the War Story from Seleene on this one, though the contract does sound a bit dull. On another not, great banner for this one. ----
GT Maximus Ascent of Ages R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:40:00 - [55] GL ]v[, have fun!
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:56:00 - [56] thx , and MC cant wait to see ye more often, ur the best (BTW kissin butt isnt my fortay lol)
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.18 20:47:00 - [57] Originally by: DB Preacher hmm, I'm not familiar with these targets, any chance of some information about them? Good luck chaps, dbp LIES I mean come on if there is one thing these boards have taught me its that you are behind eeeevvveerrything! /me straps on his tinfoil hat
Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:45:00 - [58] they are definitely fun to fight _______
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 22:30:00 - [59] lol roland love the sig 'in rust we trust' well im sure MC will come to our home and fight us, i personally cant wait, i have nothing but deep respect and admiration to MC (aswell as long posts)
Von Kretschmer Minmatar Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 23:09:00 - [60] Let the fun begin.BTW bring some bananas for us
Red Gabba Minmatar Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.19 01:55:00 - [61] I wanted to be in a Bob thread but i suppose a MC thread will have to do GF to whoever i come across we love you MC, we really do
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.19 02:26:00 - [62] Originally by: Red Gabba GF to whoever i come across we love you MC, we really do Stop it, we're getting misty. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
Madboy Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.11.19 03:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Seleene -- IT'S A TIE! -- Quote: 2006.11.17 15:45 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Brutally Clever Empire. Quote: 2006.11.17 15:46 Mercenary Coalition has declared war on Maelstrom Alliance. Hugh has now spoken and the winners have been notified. The wars kick off in just a couple mins. See you guys out there. Oh, and stop tearing down your POS's. That's cheating. PS to the enemy: Now stop sending me mails asking for the Hugh banner. OHHHH!! Now I understand why they where pulling that POS down. Hmm, cool cool. I might have to ask Vickers to prolong our war with Brutal. Could be fun, :) - MadBoy
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.19 03:35:00 - [64] TO WAR!!!! No matter where you go, there you are.
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.19 03:40:00 - [65] Originally by: War Bear TO WAR!!!! with that picture, you sir just won the internet Originally by: Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
Robert Ger Caldari Apocalyptic Raiders Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.19 07:42:00 - [66] Edited by: Robert Ger on 19/11/2006 07:43:18 Edited by: Robert Ger on 19/11/2006 07:42:30 Edited by: Robert Ger on 19/11/2006 07:42:19 Originally by: Roland 99 they are definitely fun to fight yes :)) EVE Bugs that popp my ship; and and more comes [list] Lagg game/client freezes Concord shotet my ship down, while iem attacked a Gurista NPC ^^ [*]Overview/mail/peppz an
Darth Maule Pitch Black Incorporated Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.11.19 11:24:00 - [67] Edited by: Darth Maule on 19/11/2006 11:24:32 MA need to gather their isks together and hire some mercs it seems .
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.19 11:25:00 - [68] Originally by: War Bear TO WAR!!!! War Bear, for that you get to drive the Nyx to the car wash. But be careful, young man!! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Mark Lucius Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.19 13:06:00 - [69] Originally by: War Bear TO WAR!!!! NUTS!
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.19 13:35:00 - [70] Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 19/11/2006 13:37:40 Heh. I guess all I can say is we're flattered. One cap ship pilot in our entire alliance, and 9th was in such bad shape that we got the MC? If we were making 9th Fleet so miserable that they had to hire the best, I guess we're officially not a newbie alliance anymore. To correct a minor point from the gentleman of TBSV, however - we used our T1 Frigs to defend when 9th came to take our POS out and failed. They're also still baseline doctrine for our new pilots. We used considerably bigger ships when we went to Genesis to thank them for all the trouble they caused us when we were too small to thank them sooner. TBSV would have missed most of that since BRUCE's killboard isn't public. To the excellent and professional gentlemen of MC - I look forward to learning what may be learned from such experienced foes. We certainly weren't expanding our tactics training manuals fighting 9th. We fully expect to get thumped a bit, and we fully expect to learn a great deal. We've already noticed the patience you guys have shown in not falling for our traps, and we've already picked up a new card in our own decks from seeing one of your traps. ;) BRUCE is new, but not stupid - good luck, good hunting, and thanks for the education. The Dead Parrot Shoppe: always hiring the intelligent/mature, ubernoob or vet. Experience we can give you; brains, we can't.
Katamarino Blazing Angels Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.19 14:12:00 - [71] After the pathetically ineffective mercs that 9th hired to begin with, this will make a refreshing change!
AshrakTheWhite Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.11.19 14:40:00 - [72] kata has spoken :)
Gigi Becalii	Posted - 2006.11.19 15:51:00 - [73] im only asking : all the time i like your banners, buth is the guy from all the banneds a gaay ? for sure the face luke like a gaay
Attiladehun Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.19 18:09:00 - [74] woohoo
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.19 18:45:00 - [75] Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz Originally by: DB Preacher hmm, I'm not familiar with these targets, any chance of some information about them? Good luck chaps, dbp LIES I mean come on if there is one thing these boards have taught me its that you are behind eeeevvveerrything! /me straps on his tinfoil hat I have never once been behind Backdoor bandit and the MGRL. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Wuubaa Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.19 18:51:00 - [76] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz Originally by: DB Preacher hmm, I'm not familiar with these targets, any chance of some information about them? Good luck chaps, dbp LIES I mean come on if there is one thing these boards have taught me its that you are behind eeeevvveerrything! /me straps on his tinfoil hat I have never once been behind Backdoor bandit and the MGRL. dbp There givers not takers... (_o_)
Exekias Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.19 19:06:00 - [77] Originally by: DB Preacher I have never once been behind Backdoor bandit and the MGRL. dbp I just shot coffee through my nose. thanks dbp have fun all, see you in space. -------------- Signature Gallery
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.20 00:23:00 - [78] Best of luck MC, but I must warn you. Upon researching M's website, I noticed that they have REAL ships. You just watch out for that, heh. :) _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Andrew Gunn Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.20 05:23:00 - [79] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Best of luck MC, but I must warn you. Upon researching M's website, I noticed that they have REAL ships. You just watch out for that, heh. :) You can see an example of said ships in our ad that was in E-ON Issue #5 or here on our website. -- Capital Ship Build Info
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.20 08:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Andrew Gunn Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Best of luck MC, but I must warn you. Upon researching M's website, I noticed that they have REAL ships. You just watch out for that, heh. :) You can see an example of said ships in our ad that was in E-ON Issue #5 or here on our website. I've been told I'm supposed to destroy whatever built that... thing. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.20 12:39:00 - [81] great...MC is back in the neighborhood....all I can offer is destroy they're freighters before they make it to ISS stations.....it'll be painful if you don't....lol
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.20 13:47:00 - [82] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Andrew Gunn Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Best of luck MC, but I must warn you. Upon researching M's website, I noticed that they have REAL ships. You just watch out for that, heh. :) You can see an example of said ships in our ad that was in E-ON Issue #5 or here on our website. I've been told I'm supposed to destroy whatever built that... thing. /me bows Originally by: Jacob Majestic Umm, why don't you just use the correct dread?
CiNi FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.20 15:42:00 - [83] Edited by: CiNi on 20/11/2006 15:42:47 Good Luck to my old freinds in Maelstrom Alliance. have fun guys o/ .
Trytonx Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:03:00 - [84] I just want to say.. Katamarino marry me Ok now that we got that out of the way.. MARRY ME KATA!! In all seriousness, FOOM took me in when I was a week old and showed me what friends in this game are made of! It saddens me to see that such a friendly group of people who strive for positive relations and forward growth have been subjected to this and I only hope that it was 9'th that hired MC as we all know they will be seriously repremended < Been podded lately Jarik? <3 > This contract goes to show that FOOM is a very respectable force, strong and alive.. and clearly too much for 9'th fleet. FOOM, I wish you guys the best of luck. im routin for you 110%. If your ever feelin down or out, just look to the south for some lubbin <3 MC, I have much respect for you and hope you give FOOM a good fight, because FOOM will not go quietly. They are new, but not newb.. GO FOOM
Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:45:00 - [85] In nombre de padre, el hijo , y el esperitu santi amen good luck by the way.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.20 20:54:00 - [86] Originally by: Trytonx Snipped out the Kata fanboy crap In all seriousness, FOOM took me in when I was a week old and showed me what friends in this game are made of! It saddens me to see that such a friendly group of people who strive for positive relations and forward growth have been subjected to this and I only hope that it was 9'th that hired MC as we all know they will be seriously repremended < Been podded lately Jarik? <3 > This contract goes to show that FOOM is a very respectable force, strong and alive.. and clearly too much for 9'th fleet. FOOM, I wish you guys the best of luck. im routin for you 110%. If your ever feelin down or out, just look to the south for some lubbin <3 MC, I have much respect for you and hope you give FOOM a good fight, because FOOM will not go quietly. They are new, but not newb.. GO FOOM We call ourselves BRUCE these days, but all the corps of BRUCE, including FOOM, are refusing to quietly be pushed around. :) Thanks for the support Trytonx. I don't know if MC finds us challenging, but I'm sure they find us annoying. The Dead Parrot Shoppe: always hiring the intelligent/mature, ubernoob or vet. Experience we can give you; brains, we can't.
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.21 00:48:00 - [87] Report from the Aeschee front lines MC vs Bruce alliance seems to be coming down to a war of warping away and docking this reporter mistakenly titled BRUCE as a Newbie alliance in an earlier report. however after watching closely tonight I can say that BRUCE is managing to take the fight to MC. MC have decided to camp BRUCE home station using mainly interceptors and HACS with the odd command ship , effectively hemming in BRUCE until they gain numbers to effectively strike. when those numbers are reached BRUCE from within the station and from reinforcements in the system swoop in with well co-ordinated attacks, MC's only defence is to safe spot and wait until they can reinforce. Neither side seems to be gaining a significant upper hand, and both sides are fighting in an honourable and smack free manner. credit must be given to both sides for fighting well, but this reporter believes that BRUCE have been more of a handful than MC expected, and all credit to BRUCE for holding their own against the elite Pvpers of Eve MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Trytonx Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.21 01:18:00 - [88] Friedrich, Seleene.. The public is awaiting the first battle report omg Inquiring minds need to know!!
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 01:22:00 - [89] If by meaning they stay docked until they are sure they have 4:1 odds menas they are holding their own erm sure...would love to see how they would cope without npc stations to hide in
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar Unity Star	Posted - 2006.11.21 01:29:00 - [90] Wondered what you guys were doing 1 jump out of Aeschee. Figured it had something to do with BRUCE. Hope good fights are ahead and that y'all have fun all around
12oz Jesus The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 01:55:00 - [91] Originally by: Sivona If by meaning they stay docked until they are sure they have 4:1 odds menas they are holding their own erm sure...would love to see how they would cope without npc stations to hide in As we're not being paid several billion to kill MC, there's really no rush to jump out until it is to our advantage.
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.21 02:15:00 - [92] Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 02:20:20 Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 02:15:09 Originally by: Sivona If by meaning they stay docked until they are sure they have 4:1 odds menas they are holding their own erm sure...would love to see how they would cope without npc stations to hide in With all due respect, one thing MC is known for is tactics and using the strategic situation to their advantage this is an empire war, and BRUCE are using the advantages that NPC stations and concord offer. It may not be the warfare that MC desire, but BRUCE are to an extent making you guys fight on their terms. and all credit to BRUCE for realising that tactical advantage. MC have a number of command ships stood by at all times, plus al of BRUCE are aware of the gang bonus's thatare available to your guys.. with those sort of odds of course they are not going to engage on equal terms, they are not completly stupid (apart from that bestower pilot) I have no doubt what so ever that MC will finish this campaign with more kills on the board, but on the showing so far BRUCE will emerge a better alliance, and stil in the Aeschee area stronger than before MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 04:04:00 - [93] Originally by: merc999 Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 02:35:21making you guys fight on their terms. I LOL'ed. Originally by: merc999 but on the showing so far BRUCE will emerge a better alliance, and stil in the Aeschee area stronger than before. Whoever is paying the bill is in effect giving BRUCE free PvP training No. See. You have to undock and fight to learn. Not stay docked. I wanna have some fun! It was nice seeing those 4-5 BSs if only briefly to our inty gang, too bad they didn't re-emerge when the odds were about evened out. --- Go! Go! Go pointless Tier 3s! NERF PAPER!
RPxLeakyMeatCurtains	Posted - 2006.11.21 04:31:00 - [94] I have to admit that seeing 12 T2 ships sitting outside the station is a site to be seen (and that's a very small force)I'd like to thank those that are rooting for BRUCE, we're going to give it our best. Giving it our best does'nt mean that we are going to undock when the odds are in MC's favor.We only want to fight battles that we can win. Logistically speaking, BRUCE is doing OK although we have made a few mistakes that we are learning from MC has my respect, they are patient and WELL coordinated. Keep up the documentation of whats happening MERC999...Keep the FRAPS rolling!!
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 05:02:00 - [95] Idara/Seleene - I certainly appreciate your frank and honest discussion. I would respectfully submit, however, that if the odds are even numerically, they are obviously not even tactically. Consider: The youngest MC pilot we have seen (we certainly may have missed a few) is approximately 2 years old, give or take a month or three. The oldest BRUCE pilot (in active playing time, we have a few "returnees") is just barely half that. Surely you can understand our desire to avoid a pound-for-pound exchange with such ridiculous disadvantage. Why should we engage in suicidal "fair" fights? I'm sure your decision to disengage when presented with a 19 versus 8 was based on equally valid and logical thinking. I would also suggest - again, no disrespect intended, as we've done the same - that both sides have spent a noteworthy amount of time in Aeschee's FIO office/safespots today. I'm quite sure at least one side expended some Scan probes today, and I suspect both did. BRUCE does not claim to be the peer of MC in any way; we decidedly are not. We are, however, standing up for ourselves in a manner we feel is a credit to our group. Would the MC crush us if we did not have stations to hide in? Absolutely - they would swat us like flies. But then, that's why our Alliance hasn't gone out to 0.0 yet - we know our limits. We also know our advantages and disadvantages here on our home ground, as no doubt the excellent pilots of MC do. I think MC would agree that we have leveraged our advantages very well. We've learned a lot from your highly professional fighting; I know many of us look forward to another chess match tomorrow. Thanks again for making it enjoyable and smack-free, a credit to your fine organization. I only wish I could say the same for your employers! Good luck to you tomorrow from the proud pilots of BRUCE. The Dead Parrot Shoppe: always hiring the intelligent/mature, ubernoob or vet. Experience we can give you; brains, we can't.
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 05:15:00 - [96] I'm not saying that you guys aren't playing the cards you have, turtle in station and waste the money of the hiring party from your perspective, but if you keep claiming that you are learning PvP experience, I'm sorry, but you can't learn unless you fight, and usually only when you die. Most of the MC players are old, but they all started young and had to fight and die to get to where they are now. It's a shame we can't get a good, even (ship-wise) matchup together, because I'm sure we'd all have fun, and even if we "win", you guys would win a lot more by learning from the experience. --- Go! Go! Go pointless Tier 3s! NERF PAPER!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.21 07:14:00 - [97] Originally by: Idara Originally by: merc999 Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 02:35:21making you guys fight on their terms. I LOL'ed. Originally by: merc999 but on the showing so far BRUCE will emerge a better alliance, and stil in the Aeschee area stronger than before. Whoever is paying the bill is in effect giving BRUCE free PvP training No. See. You have to undock and fight to learn. Not stay docked. I wanna have some fun! It was nice seeing those 4-5 BSs if only briefly to our inty gang, too bad they didn't re-emerge when the odds were about evened out. you guys can hardly complain about staying docked. Everytime we went to utopia during your contract you would only undock when you had a good 4x our numbers in bships or capitals Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 07:33:00 - [98] In all honesty, while your docking strategy may be efficient in minimising your ship losses, it is maximising your time loss. Enjoying the game (which is what it is) should always be most important, and not undocking is simply not playing. In my opinion, that is. I can appreciate that a relatively young member base may not be able to afford to cover substantial losses. However, insurable T1 ships below BS size represent a very small risk ISKwise, being arguably even practically free, fittings excluded. Our T2 ships, on the other hand, represent on average a moderate to high risk. In that regard, the relative stakes are rather even. You are, of course, free to play the way you choose. I am not attempting to impose any moral superiority, or call it unfair and what not. What I simply want to say is that I play the game for fun, not statistics, and hope that there will be at least some enjoyable encounters in this war that are beneficial to us both, ISK disregarded. ---
Mr Neutron Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 07:39:00 - [99] Yeah, this war is definitely very different form what I've experienced in BF2 But seriously I think that the strategies of both sides here are very similar. I wish we had some money to burn, but BRUCE has clearly defined goals and is very consistent and focused on achieving them. We in BRUCE did already get PVP experience in chasing pirates around Aeschee + did an offensive war right before this one. Just as MC we very much favour teamwork in play, most people will probably agree that being a part of well functioning machine is one of the most enjoyable aspects of eve. What I also like very much is the level of understanding both sides give to each other so this one goes in a very fair play mode without absolutely pointless insult wars that plague eve. This is just a game people, enjoy it, make friends and than kill them see you in space cowboy... Mr Neutron ---- Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me
Tabet Saens The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 07:50:00 - [100] Originally by: Jin Entres ... I'll break radio silence to say that this is perhaps one of the most well-written post I've ever read. That and my CEO's post. Good stuff folks! Let's keep it respectable.
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 08:31:00 - [101] Edited by: SonOTassadar on 21/11/2006 08:32:11 Originally by: Jin Entres You are, of course, free to play the way you choose. I am not attempting to impose any moral superiority, or call it unfair and what not. What I simply want to say is that I play the game for fun, not statistics, and hope that there will be at least some enjoyable encounters in this war that are beneficial to us both, ISK disregarded. You're right, Jin. Unfortunately, denying our enemies the satisfaction of your success is of a higher priority than improving our PvP skills. If the situation was different, I suspect we would be a bit more bold than we currently are, but, it's already been beaten to a pulp; to sum it up there are very few people in this game that fight for fun in comparison to those who fight to win (although winning is usually fun). As a mercenary group, you guys know this better than anyone, as your clients are expecting winning results. ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standar Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
Mr Neutron Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 09:45:00 - [102] oh to hell with winning, Jin is right lets do some carnage I did my burden of deadly boring pve, paid the taxes, I deserve to have fun **** it! /me is expecting to be kicked from his beloved alliance now... ---- Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me
Larsson7 Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:18:00 - [103] I sincerely hope not, Mr Neutron. Having some pvp fun gets the heart pumping and blood flowing Who knows - your guys might just surprise themselves and have a lot of fun.
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:18:00 - [104] To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. I have the PC turned on while I work and for entertainment am sitting outside one of the Aeschee stations just watching events. It seems neither of the protagonists are willing to take a risk, MC camp the station, BRUCE dock or Safe spot, Bruce Undock or warp in MC leaves the stn to a Safe spot, Rinse and repeat Whatever MC's clients aims are for the future of BRUCE , it is clear that BRUCE have not read the script and are not laying down and dying in droves. I wish both sides Good luck but I get the feeling this will be a very unsatisfying campaign for MC MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:31:00 - [105] Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon Idara/Seleene - I certainly appreciate your frank and honest discussion. I would respectfully submit, however, that if the odds are even numerically, they are obviously not even tactically. Consider: The youngest MC pilot we have seen (we certainly may have missed a few) is approximately 2 years old, give or take a month or three. The oldest BRUCE pilot (in active playing time, we have a few "returnees") is just barely half that. Surely you can understand our desire to avoid a pound-for-pound exchange with such ridiculous disadvantage. Why should we engage in suicidal "fair" fights? I'm sure your decision to disengage when presented with a 19 versus 8 was based on equally valid and logical thinking. I would also suggest - again, no disrespect intended, as we've done the same - that both sides have spent a noteworthy amount of time in Aeschee's FIO office/safespots today. I'm quite sure at least one side expended some Scan probes today, and I suspect both did. BRUCE does not claim to be the peer of MC in any way; we decidedly are not. We are, however, standing up for ourselves in a manner we feel is a credit to our group. Would the MC crush us if we did not have stations to hide in? Absolutely - they would swat us like flies. But then, that's why our Alliance hasn't gone out to 0.0 yet - we know our limits. We also know our advantages and disadvantages here on our home ground, as no doubt the excellent pilots of MC do. I think MC would agree that we have leveraged our advantages very well. We've learned a lot from your highly professional fighting; I know many of us look forward to another chess match tomorrow. Thanks again for making it enjoyable and smack-free, a credit to your fine organization. I only wish I could say the same for your employers! Good luck to you tomorrow from the proud pilots of BRUCE. I'm upset now. I'm in your system for 4 hours and you don't even see that i'm a 15 month old noob in a T1 cruiser Max --------------------
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:47:00 - [106] Originally by: merc999 To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. I have the PC turned on while I work and for entertainment am sitting outside one of the Aeschee stations just watching events. It seems neither of the protagonists are willing to take a risk, MC camp the station, BRUCE dock or Safe spot, Bruce Undock or warp in MC leaves the stn to a Safe spot, Rinse and repeat Whatever MC's clients aims are for the future of BRUCE , it is clear that BRUCE have not read the script and are not laying down and dying in droves. I wish both sides Good luck but I get the feeling this will be a very unsatisfying campaign for MC Personal satisfaction has nothing to do with it :) We get paid either way, and it's true - whilst sat outside the station, we can still go and do 'other things' - Teamspeak is a marvellous invention [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing 1908.4 damage.
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:53:00 - [107] Originally by: Murukan you guys can hardly complain about staying docked. Everytime we went to utopia during your contract you would only undock when you had a good 4x our numbers in bships or capitals Now now. One of the few times I saw an IAC gang outside station in Utopia, we undocked ~10 against their 15+. The 13 kills we got in 2 minutes are on the kb. Max --------------------
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 11:53:00 - [108] Originally by: merc999 To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. That's not really relevant. We are there to play, like a football team bouncing the ball around, waiting for the other team to show up on their home field. Well, we also get paid for it, of course. Originally by: merc999 It seems neither of the protagonists are willing to take a risk, MC camp the station, BRUCE dock or Safe spot, Bruce Undock or warp in MC leaves the stn to a Safe spot, Rinse and repeat If we believe we can win an engagement, we engage. It is obvious that at overwhelming odds neither side will. AFAIK at all times, however, there have been more BRUCE in system than there have been MC. Last night, for example, the odds were around 17 to 27 in BRUCE's favour, and we waited for you/them outside the station. Therefore claiming we are not willing to take reasonable risks is not true. Anywaym, I don't want to turn this into the usual bickering about details these things usually turn to, so I'll leave the playing within the game. Let's at least try and have some fun. ---
dralid Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 12:36:00 - [109] Less talking, more shooting Bruce! Come to us and we can show you the way! -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.21 13:28:00 - [110] ....do you guys not get that this contract is early....and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. GL to those who oppose MC..honestly. But don't get*****y just yet...it's early. And if you can catch the MC freighters when they come in to the nearest ISS station...I strongly recommend it!! And I see a few MC on our KB's as well....every one in this game is an opportunist....
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 13:50:00 - [111] Originally by: Silvestri ....do you guys not get that this contract is early....and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. GL to those who oppose MC..honestly. But don't get*****y just yet...it's early. And if you can catch the MC freighters when they come in to the nearest ISS station...I strongly recommend it!! And I see a few MC on our KB's as well....every one in this game is an opportunist.... Blame Foofighter he promised to mine with me and then just brushed me off However I don't think you will see any MC freighters going to ISS station this time
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:04:00 - [112] Why's it always my fualt We had the mining op sunday. I woulda invited you you but erm, i forgot.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:10:00 - [113] Sorry BRUCE but I have to back my colleagues up by saying that although you might have outnumbered us 2:1 and greater at times you will not give it a go. Sure you might feel that it stops both side getting kills which is fine but it's not going to give you pvp training. A fabian strategy might be a viable one but it doesn't make for much fun or good stories to tell when the conflict is over.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:12:00 - [114] Originally by: Jin Entres In all honesty, while your docking strategy may be efficient in minimising your ship losses, it is maximising your time loss. Enjoying the game (which is what it is) should always be most important, and not undocking is simply not playing. In my opinion, that is. I can appreciate that a relatively young member base may not be able to afford to cover substantial losses. However, insurable T1 ships below BS size represent a very small risk ISKwise, being arguably even practically free, fittings excluded. Our T2 ships, on the other hand, represent on average a moderate to high risk. In that regard, the relative stakes are rather even. You are, of course, free to play the way you choose. I am not attempting to impose any moral superiority, or call it unfair and what not. What I simply want to say is that I play the game for fun, not statistics, and hope that there will be at least some enjoyable encounters in this war that are beneficial to us both, ISK disregarded. If the stakes are even, and the odds are not, it is a fool who plays. As soon as we can muster 2 Command Ships, 4 HACs, 4 Inties, and 2 Tech-1 Cruisers in the same gang (though this would require several months before it would even be possible) I assure you, we will be more than happy to meet you head-on. I think an equal force of t1 cruisers and t1 frigates would be very foolish indeed to undock against that. I assure you we ARE playing - we've been meaning to test new strategies out, and we've been doing so on another server. ;) Our time loss is nil; our finances are ahead of where they would be if we undocked, our strategic learning is increasing, and our skillpoints continue to advance. Thank you, however, for your fairly expressed concern. I appreciate that you play for fun, and so do we - undocking in t1 frigates and getting churned up, returning to the station and doing it again is not what we would define as fun. Perhaps you are veteran enough to the game that losing several engagements in the glory of a good fight is fun to you - I admire that viewpoint. At this point in our "game adolescence" we do not. Though I might point out that your own could follow the same argument - they seem more interested in statistics than mixing it up as well, given their disinterest in engaging us when THEY would clearly be foolish to engage. We have goals, too, and our goals are still getting fulfilled. I realize that these goals may frustrate your desire for a good fight... but a good fight (with you) is not our goal. Proceeding with our long term goals is. Best of luck to the excellent and well-argued pilots of the MC today. The Dead Parrot Shoppe: always hiring the intelligent/mature, ubernoob or vet. Experience we can give you; brains, we can't.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:15:00 - [115] Originally by: Hans Roaming A fabian strategy might be a viable one but it doesn't make for much fun or good stories to tell when the conflict is over. I'm impressed with your knowledge of military history - this is precisely what we are engaging in. :) Your error, though, is assuming that we are not having fun some other way... and I assure you, for such complete and total upstarts such as ourselves to say "We forced MC's station camp to warp off" is a good enough story, indeed. For anyone else? Probably not. For a 1-month-old alliance staffed by characters with less than a year in the game? In Fabian we trust. :) The Dead Parrot Shoppe: always hiring the intelligent/mature, ubernoob or vet. Experience we can give you; brains, we can't.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:20:00 - [116] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Why's it always my fualt We had the mining op sunday. I woulda invited you you but erm, i forgot. Gotta blame someone, especially when Lighty isn't around. I bet you were mining the good stuff too and I didn't even get an invite
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:21:00 - [117] I can understand the mercenaries shouting for more fights, for several reasons. But I'd seriously doubt the wisdom in following the ENEMY logic. Find your own ways to fight them instead. I'm rooting for you. By all means, if you decide that this is the best way to fight, bore them to death and making their contractors angry. PS: I have yet to hear of a mercenary not offering free PvP lessons, but apparently students are expected to figure the exact reasons on why they're getting wasted on their own. -- Thukkers do
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:28:00 - [118] Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon If the stakes are even, and the odds are not, it is a fool who plays. As soon as we can muster 2 Command Ships, 4 HACs, 4 Inties, and 2 Tech-1 Cruisers in the same gang (though this would require several months before it would even be possible) I assure you, we will be more than happy to meet you head-on. I think an equal force of t1 cruisers and t1 frigates would be very foolish indeed to undock against that. What happened to the 5 Battleships you had? Or does the story look better if you neglect to mention those Your strategy, at the end of the day, is up to you. We get paid either way. However as players of course we like more fights and such. Hence the discussion in this thread. But whatever you say, spending 95% of the time in station will NOT gain you pvp experience. Max --------------------
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:32:00 - [119] Well have also been in the situation of leading an alliance facing an opponent that outgunned and outskilled us and didn't choose that strategy as although you don't loose ships you pay in other ways quite heavily as no one enjoys being dominated in game. My choice was we gave it our all, lost a ton of ships at the start but we kept going and as they were t1 it was fine. After a while the out of game skill gap decreased and we started wining some encounters. The main thing was we realised that the trade for experiences rather than ISK for our sub each month was well worth it, ask Olex Grant about those times.
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:37:00 - [120] Originally by: Smagd I can understand the mercenaries shouting for more fights, for several reasons. But I'd seriously doubt the wisdom in following the ENEMY logic. Find your own ways to fight them instead. I'm rooting for you. By all means, if you decide that this is the best way to fight, bore them to death and making their contractors angry. PS: I have yet to hear of a mercenary not offering free PvP lessons, but apparently students are expected to figure the exact reasons on why they're getting wasted on their own. Actually your alliance although similar really gave it a go and splatted my deimos good and proper, at the end of war thread a lot of members were saying how much they enjoyed the experience. Have been on both sides and it really does make one feel alive in game if you embrace it as your pvpers said. Once you set up to replace ships easily, i.e. corp insure and replace etc then the fun can really begin.
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:38:00 - [121] Quote: BRUCE is managing to take the fight to MC. Quote: but this reporter believes that BRUCE have been more of a handful than MC expected The last page of forum ping-pong in response to a by a clueless nobody not even involved in the war? They dock and stay docked, moving to Sisi for testing and tactics/fitting research. Sounds like a plan - hope the BRUCE folks get some good tactics down and come back to relieve MC of some good loot! To everyone: come on... it's not like the first time MC have taken a contract on a target who didn't undock (EV anyone?). At the end of the day, it's all about having a good time. Solid fights = good times. I think BRUCE may be somewhat surprised what they could pull off with a 27 vs 17 in their favor... Give it a go, guys! LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.11.21 14:48:00 - [122] Originally by: Silvestri and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. If I understand it correctly, this "war" is taking place in Empire. If MC manages to take an NPC station, I will be extremely impressed. And so will a few GM's. I'm rooting for the good guys myself! Though I haven't figured out who the "good guys" are yet. Go TEAM!
Anastasia Romanova	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:09:00 - [123] Edited by: Anastasia Romanova on 21/11/2006 15:13:12 Bah... wrong alt. Posting with my main now... at least, if the lag on the forums will allow me to.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:11:00 - [124] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Smagd I can understand the mercenaries shouting for more fights, for several reasons. But I'd seriously doubt the wisdom in following the ENEMY logic. Find your own ways to fight them instead. I'm rooting for you. Actually your alliance although similar really gave it a go and splatted my deimos good and proper, at the end of war thread a lot of members were saying how much they enjoyed the experience. Have been on both sides and it really does make one feel alive in game if you embrace it as your pvpers said. Once you set up to replace ships easily, i.e. corp insure and replace etc then the fun can really begin. Obviously, that was our decision (and I'm not really speaking for the alliance, for the record. Hello Elsebeth wave). It was still not influenced by what you asked us to do. We didn't put up any POSes for you, either - and one Corp was trying to (but we talked them out of it). Sorry about the Deimos. It's always a pain to see a good ship going down. My rooting for your current targets is really mostly based on my understanding that they seem similar to us, and hence underdogs. I always root for the underdogs. In the spirit of that, I really hope the MC will survive the Group of Death come tourney. Honestly, YOU CAN DO IT! Lastly, sorry if this all came out a little irritated-sounding. As of recently the whole Mercenary business is grating my nerves a bit. Even VETO is doing it now: Ahw come on. Pirate like real men, you scallywags! -- Thukkers do
Lydia Brightlance Gallente Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:15:00 - [125] ((Posting with main this time)) Originally by: Detavi Kade Originally by: Silvestri and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. If I understand it correctly, this "war" is taking place in Empire. If MC manages to take an NPC station, I will be extremely impressed. And so will a few GM's. I'm rooting for the good guys myself! Though I haven't figured out who the "good guys" are yet. Go TEAM! Why, the Emperor (may he live forever) is the good guy, of course. His Imperial Majesty (may he live forever) judges with infinite wisdom and a deep faith in justice. Only He, the Emperor (may he live forever), can be the embodiment of all that is good. Thus all should listen to His Imperial Splendor's (may he live forever) words and callings and follow those words with perfect faith in His (may he live forever) righteous judgement. As for this being an Empire war... BRUCE might live in the illusionary security of the four (heathen) empires, but ]v[aelstrom resides in the birth place of His Majesty's (may he live forever) Imperial Home, Maelstrom Prime - I-NGI8 - Immensea, far from the (heathen) Empires of high sec space and protected by our faith in Him (may he live forever). The Emperor (may he live forever) is our shield and we are His (may he live forever) sword.
ASIV TRE Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:37:00 - [126] Originally by: Detavi Kade Originally by: Silvestri and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. If I understand it correctly, this "war" is taking place in Empire. If MC manages to take an NPC station, I will be extremely impressed. And so will a few GM's. I'm rooting for the good guys myself! Though I haven't figured out who the "good guys" are yet. Go TEAM! I think Silvestri was talking about Maelstrom rather than BRUCE .
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:45:00 - [127] Originally by: ASIV TRE Originally by: Detavi Kade Originally by: Silvestri and MC will bring freighters of crap in....and just take your station giving you no place to dock....it's what they do. If I understand it correctly, this "war" is taking place in Empire. If MC manages to take an NPC station, I will be extremely impressed. And so will a few GM's. I'm rooting for the good guys myself! Though I haven't figured out who the "good guys" are yet. Go TEAM! I think Silvestri was talking about Maelstrom rather than BRUCE . Hehe fair enough. Go Team!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:56:00 - [128] Originally by: Lydia Brightlance As for this being an Empire war... BRUCE might live in the illusionary security of the four (heathen) empires, but ]v[aelstrom resides in the birth place of His Majesty's (may he live forever) Imperial Home, Maelstrom Prime - I-NGI8 - Immensea, far from the (heathen) Empires of high sec space and protected by our faith in Him (may he live forever). The Emperor (may he live forever) is our shield and we are His (may he live forever) sword. So... you're saying that your land is worth a lot of money... ? - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Coren Skyus Pinnacle Technologies Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 15:58:00 - [129] Originally by: merc999 To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. That's one of the best takes I've read on these forums since I started playing. Terrific! And, IMHO, I'd rather be chillin' in a warm station drinking gallons of Quafe, eating Long-limb roes, with Exotic Dancers by my side vs. being all curled up in the fetal position floating around in ice-cold goo looking at nuudie magazines. _________________ * Si hoc legere scis numium eruditionis habes *
Lydia Brightlance Gallente Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 16:21:00 - [130] Originally by: Seleene So... you're saying that your land is worth a lot of money... ? Hmmm, that may be the Emperor's only mistake... he hired the Minmatar to build his first home/palace. We ended up with rust plated taps instead of gold plated. Let me tell you, it is kind of awkward to wake up in a room that is made of ducktape and rust plating. I suggested he ask the Amar for a proper palace, at least they know how to provide him with the right amount of pomp, but he wouldn't listen. He obviously went for the cheaper deal, the cheapskate.
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.21 16:32:00 - [131] We are watching... I wish good fights to both sides Sarge out
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 16:43:00 - [132] Originally by: Coren Skyus Originally by: merc999 To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. That's one of the best takes I've read on these forums since I started playing. Terrific! And, IMHO, I'd rather be chillin' in a warm station drinking gallons of Quafe, eating Long-limb roes, with Exotic Dancers by my side vs. being all curled up in the fetal position floating around in ice-cold goo looking at nuudie magazines. But it's not really dictating what you're doing in the world of EVE, I mean why stay in the station for hours, you might as well log off and do something else.
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.21 16:54:00 - [133] Originally by: Latex Mistress [The last page of forum ping-pong in response to a by a clueless nobody not even involved in the war? clueless nobody is about right , you forgot the noob tag too BTW We do have an interest in how this war pans out though, as we live closeby and BRUCE are friendly neighbours Quote: I think BRUCE may be somewhat surprised what they could pull off with a 27 vs 17 in their favor... Give it a go, guys! they did give it a go, and MC , probably wisely, left the station and Safe spotted. Hans.. As to the logging out, I dont know about BRUCE , but at times when being camped in I often would toddle off to the pub, out for a meal , watch a film or even go to sleep, and was often amused to return a number of hours later to find the campers still waiting on me .. MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:01:00 - [134] Originally by: Seleene So... you're saying that your land is worth a lot of money... ? /me shifts uncomfortably in his seat Get away Seleene! -------------------------------
Frito11 Occam's Razor Combine Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:06:00 - [135] Originally by: merc999 Originally by: Latex Mistress [The last page of forum ping-pong in response to a by a clueless nobody not even involved in the war? clueless nobody is about right , you forgot the noob tag too BTW We do have an interest in how this war pans out though, as we live closeby and BRUCE are friendly neighbours Quote: I think BRUCE may be somewhat surprised what they could pull off with a 27 vs 17 in their favor... Give it a go, guys! they did give it a go, and MC , probably wisely, left the station and Safe spotted. Hans.. As to the logging out, I dont know about BRUCE , but at times when being camped in I often would toddle off to the pub, out for a meal , watch a film or even go to sleep, and was often amused to return a number of hours later to find the campers still waiting on me .. I recall doing the same thing when i was in TRG and TBSV had a contract aginst us and our allies (SFHI,OFCOM) and camped us in the station regularly, Station camping is boring, but I give Merc here and the rest of TBSV respect for at least keeping it fun in a smack free friendly local chats etc.. To MC good luck and see you guys on the battlefield
Tone'Def	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:42:00 - [136] I was fortunate enough to witness a 1v1 Typhoon vs Typhoon battle in Aeschee today. Here we go, I thought, MC vs. BRUCE, mano a mano. Without naming names, I'll tell you I was surprised to see the character with 2 years' more experience than the other disengage and warp away. There were no other pilots within range to assist either combatant. How about a little less forum grandstanding and a bit more action? TD
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:44:00 - [137] Originally by: merc999 Originally by: Latex Mistress [The last page of forum ping-pong in response to a by a clueless nobody not even involved in the war? clueless nobody is about right , you forgot the noob tag too BTW We do have an interest in how this war pans out though, as we live closeby and BRUCE are friendly neighbours Quote: I think BRUCE may be somewhat surprised what they could pull off with a 27 vs 17 in their favor... Give it a go, guys! With all due respect if you are talking about the possible fight where, you said something in local afterwards, it was 5 (including 3 frig size) vs about 18 (including 3-4BS plus 2 HAC) we were hardly going to engage that now
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 17:45:00 - [138] Originally by: Tone'Def I was fortunate enough to witness a 1v1 Typhoon vs Typhoon battle in Aeschee today. Here we go, I thought, MC vs. BRUCE, mano a mano. Without naming names, I'll tell you I was surprised to see the character with 2 years' more experience than the other disengage and warp away. There were no other pilots within range to assist either combatant. How about a little less forum grandstanding and a bit more action? TD Bit more posting with a main. You are not allowed to post in this section of the forum!
merc999 Caldari Turbulent Subversion	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:13:00 - [139] Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 18:14:11 Quote: where, you said something in local afterwards I apologise for the talking in local it was a noob mistake I meant it for a private convo.. I did try to explain my comment in case you guys felt it was meant in a derogatory manner, (which it wasnt). having waited some hours in the hope of getting some decent fraps I thought that a a full and frank exchange of weaponary was going to happen then you guys left the station. MERC999 Public Relations Director TBSV Keeping Empire and Syndicate ship builders in business
Mark Lucius Nomina Sacra Juventus	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:15:00 - [140] Originally by: Traxio Nacho With all due respect if you are talking about the possible fight where, you said something in local afterwards, it was 5 (including 3 frig size) vs about 18 (including 3-4BS plus 2 HAC) we were hardly going to engage that now With all respect to both parties (as I am not taking sides), I find this a funny statement, since it was an MC who said that BRUCE should engage just for the fun of the fight. Yet when the opportunity for MC to engage arises, they don't take it.... /me runs off the stand, back to his lil n00b-hole ---
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:20:00 - [141] Originally by: Mark Lucius Originally by: Traxio Nacho With all due respect if you are talking about the possible fight where, you said something in local afterwards, it was 5 (including 3 frig size) vs about 18 (including 3-4BS plus 2 HAC) we were hardly going to engage that now With all respect to both parties (as I am not taking sides), I find this a funny statement, since it was an MC who said that BRUCE should engage just for the fun of the fight. Yet when the opportunity for MC to engage arises, they don't take it.... /me runs off the stand, back to his lil n00b-hole You don't understand why 5 with 3 frigs doesn't engage 18 with 3-4 BS and 2 HAC's at that moment in time?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:21:00 - [142] Originally by: merc999 Edited by: merc999 on 21/11/2006 18:14:11 Quote: where, you said something in local afterwards I apologise for the talking in local it was a noob mistake I meant it for a private convo.. I did try to explain my comment in case you guys felt it was meant in a derogatory manner, (which it wasnt). having waited some hours in the hope of getting some decent fraps I thought that a a full and frank exchange of weaponary was going to happen then you guys left the station. Thats ok couldn't decide if you were joking or being serious any how
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:22:00 - [143] This back and forth banter is getting tired. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Exekias Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:27:00 - [144] Originally by: Lydia Brightlance Why, the Emperor (may he live forever) ... I thought he died a while back. /me goes to check the chronicles -------------- Signature Gallery
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:53:00 - [145] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Mark Lucius Originally by: Traxio Nacho With all due respect if you are talking about the possible fight where, you said something in local afterwards, it was 5 (including 3 frig size) vs about 18 (including 3-4BS plus 2 HAC) we were hardly going to engage that now With all respect to both parties (as I am not taking sides), I find this a funny statement, since it was an MC who said that BRUCE should engage just for the fun of the fight. Yet when the opportunity for MC to engage arises, they don't take it.... /me runs off the stand, back to his lil n00b-hole You don't understand why 5 with 3 frigs doesn't engage 18 with 3-4 BS and 2 HAC's at that moment in time? Why not? Seems like it would be alot of FUN. In all seriousness, it seems some folks are willing to pass judgement on the other side's FC in gauging what is fair and what is not, but are unwilling to admit that they, themselves, also gauge fights beforehand as well. As soon as you admit that you gauge fights for "reasonable chance" you have given up any moral ground to stand upon, in judging others and telling THEM what is reasonable for them. Seleene, I agree. This IS tiresome. I flew 20+ jumps from heimatar in hopes of seeing some of the top PVP'ers in action. Hopefully there will be action tonight to go with the popcorn.
Lexor SLice Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.21 19:00:00 - [146] to all my M8's in the MC, you know who you are: have fun and share much manlove. so the unfortunate contracties: ouch. ____________________________________________
Idara Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 19:15:00 - [147] Ignoring this thread after this post... NANOPHOOOOOOOOOOON. TYVM. --- Go! Go! Go pointless Tier 3s! NERF PAPER!
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.21 19:28:00 - [148] Originally by: Detavi Kade Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Mark Lucius Originally by: Traxio Nacho With all due respect if you are talking about the possible fight where, you said something in local afterwards, it was 5 (including 3 frig size) vs about 18 (including 3-4BS plus 2 HAC) we were hardly going to engage that now With all respect to both parties (as I am not taking sides), I find this a funny statement, since it was an MC who said that BRUCE should engage just for the fun of the fight. Yet when the opportunity for MC to engage arises, they don't take it.... /me runs off the stand, back to his lil n00b-hole You don't understand why 5 with 3 frigs doesn't engage 18 with 3-4 BS and 2 HAC's at that moment in time? Why not? Seems like it would be alot of FUN. In all seriousness, it seems some folks are willing to pass judgement on the other side's FC in gauging what is fair and what is not, but are unwilling to admit that they, themselves, also gauge fights beforehand as well. As soon as you admit that you gauge fights for "reasonable chance" you have given up any moral ground to stand upon, in judging others and telling THEM what is reasonable for them. If you are referring to me, even partially, please re-read my replies. Fun is trying to find a way to fight, not attempting to avoid fighting. BRUCE has already admitted it's their strategic choice not to seek engagements. We have not expected them to fight us against overwhelming odds. That's why we haven't brought the numbers. The perception of an even match varies, obviously, and partially explains why there have been no major engagements; we compare (or focus on) numbers, they weigh in T1/T2 and skill points. Lastly, I don't think either party appreciates alts attempting to flame what has been thus far a respectful thread. ---
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.11.21 19:42:00 - [149] Originally by: Jin Entres If you are referring to me, even partially, please re-read my replies. Fun is trying to find a way to fight, not attempting to avoid fighting. BRUCE has already admitted it's their strategic choice not to seek engagements. We have not expected them to fight us against overwhelming odds. That's why we haven't brought the numbers. The perception of an even match varies, obviously, and partially explains why there have been no major engagements; we compare (or focus on) numbers, they weigh in T1/T2 and skill points. Lastly, I don't think either party appreciates alts attempting to flame what has been thus far a respectful thread. No I wasn't referring to you. In fact, I think it would be awesome if some of MC would read your post. As far as finding a way to fight, you guys admitted yourself that BRUCE did undock. Isn't that finding a way to fight? Furthermore, I don't consider it flaming when trying to point out inconsistencies in another person's post. I don't recall insulting anyone, and if I did, I'm sorry.
John Caldwell Caldari Tadakastu-Obata Corporation Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 22:43:00 - [150] Edited by: John Caldwell on 21/11/2006 22:50:58 .
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 02:13:00 - [151] Well worth the wait tonight for you guys to take the bait, always fun to do that
Chi Prime Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 02:16:00 - [152] Originally by: Sivona Well worth the wait tonight for you guys to take the bait, always fun to do that hehe, was fun, although I got nothing
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 02:20:00 - [153] Originally by: Chi Prime Originally by: Sivona Well worth the wait tonight for you guys to take the bait, always fun to do that hehe, was fun, although I got nothing Hey, I was jammed the whole fight [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing 1908.4 damage.
Andrew Gunn Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 03:40:00 - [154] Originally by: Exekias Originally by: Lydia Brightlance Why, the Emperor (may he live forever) ... I thought he died a while back. /me goes to check the chronicles Lydia is of course referring to our glorious leader: Emperor Maelstrom! -- Capital Ship Build Info
Euripides Das	Posted - 2006.11.22 05:35:00 - [155] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: Coren Skyus Originally by: merc999 To be honest I see very little difference between sitting in a station for hours , and sitting outside it on the undock hole for hours, both restrict the pilots game play, at least inside the station there is the option to go and do other things. That's one of the best takes I've read on these forums since I started playing. Terrific! And, IMHO, I'd rather be chillin' in a warm station drinking gallons of Quafe, eating Long-limb roes, with Exotic Dancers by my side vs. being all curled up in the fetal position floating around in ice-cold goo looking at nuudie magazines. But it's not really dictating what you're doing in the world of EVE, I mean why stay in the station for hours, you might as well log off and do something else. Um jump clones? I know you have info on local but unless you're glued to it, how do you know they aren't rotating personal between the siege and another station half way across the galaxy? I mean really ISK are one of the few things in the game that aren't system local, might as well get something done while they wait. Besides they clearly will not come out and fight you for two reasons 1) This is war. In war you deny your enemy their strategic and tactical goals. Yours are to have fun (i.e. large fleet battles) and destroy BRUCES POS. They took down the second and you've been complaining about the lack of the first for over a week. 2) BRUCE probably knows who hired you by now. The less damage they take now the more resources they have for the war that's coming when your contract is up. Meanwhile BRUCE builds more ships. Now me if I were the BRUCE commander, I'd put out some large buy orders for minerals. Build a bunch of Condors (100 is what 6.5 Mil), outfit them with midrange missile launchers and try to swarmkill whatever ship you had that looked like it had the most expensive modules. Cause some EXPENSIVE damage and the next merc contract will be more expensive. Then again I'm just a newbie.
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 06:31:00 - [156] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Lydia Brightlance As for this being an Empire war... BRUCE might live in the illusionary security of the four (heathen) empires, but ]v[aelstrom resides in the birth place of His Majesty's (may he live forever) Imperial Home, Maelstrom Prime - I-NGI8 - Immensea, far from the (heathen) Empires of high sec space and protected by our faith in Him (may he live forever). The Emperor (may he live forever) is our shield and we are His (may he live forever) sword. So... you're saying that your land is worth a lot of money... ? Snuck in with a 'roid scanner on the 'Ranis today, boss, and whoo doggy! Can we bring the Hulks? pleaseopleaseoplease Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Mr Neutron Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.22 12:53:00 - [157] Edited by: Mr Neutron on 22/11/2006 12:59:22 Originally by: Phoenus Originally by: Chi Prime Originally by: Sivona Well worth the wait tonight for you guys to take the bait, always fun to do that hehe, was fun, although I got nothing Hey, I was jammed the whole fight Oh my God, we've jammed Phoneus! We're b......s! You guys took my mighty t1 packed Rifter to half armour once and to half structure once. I don't like you any more. Please note that this is my beloved piece of rust that I've been fightin in like forever, I have strong emotional ties with it, so I'd be very very angry if you'd dismember it. I was considering leaving it in hangar for the duration of this war, but nah.... If it'll survive it's tackling duty in this first BRUCE-MC war it'll be like a treasure to me . Oh yeah nice trap earlier today and a lot of shiny toys in it too. Shame that I'm too noob to fly covert ops, I'd sure hang around for a while to behold the views see you in space cowboy... Mr Neutron ---- Take my love, take my land Take me where I cannot stand I don't care, I'm still free You can't take the sky from me
Phoenus Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:06:00 - [158] Hey, no fair Was wondering if you'd stick around longer against my Sniper-Harpy! [ 2006.08.16 20:49:06 ] (combat) Your Electron Blaster Cannon II barely scratches Dominix [NTEMS]<HELLH>(Dominix), causing 1908.4 damage.
Guttenschtanter	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:00:00 - [159] Edited by: Guttenschtanter on 22/11/2006 17:00:45 alt post sorry
Helganstandt Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:02:00 - [160] AWWWWWW, no fair! I was saving up so we could hire you guys to help US take the mael outpost. NO FAIR!
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:58:00 - [161] Originally by: Crovan Snuck in with a 'roid scanner on the 'Ranis today, boss, and whoo doggy! Can we bring the Hulks? pleaseopleaseoplease Can't that also fit a couple mining drones? Gallente Tech ftw! -- Thukkers do
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 17:23:00 - [162] Originally by: Helganstandt AWWWWWW, no fair! I was saving up so we could hire you guys to help US take the mael outpost. NO FAIR! Dream on .. -------------------------------
topman324 eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.23 20:33:00 - [163] I always love reading Seleene's posts. Not only are they informative, but Seleene and her pilots make a massive amount of effort in their sigs and pics, and some of Loxy's vids are the best I have ever seen. GL to MC, It won't be a fair fight, but who cares?!. Regards, Topperz
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.23 20:37:00 - [164] it's definetly proving to be an "interesting" contract -
D'Nar Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 21:21:00 - [165] Originally by: Vily it's definetly proving to be an "interesting" contract For our sake, I hope you mean that in the Chinese sense, as in: "May you live in interesting times" /* None of this is anyone's opinion. Not even my own. */
Wicke Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 02:38:00 - [166] Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 19/11/2006 13:37:40 Heh. I guess all I can say is we're flattered. One cap ship pilot in our entire alliance, and 9th was in such bad shape that we got the MC? If we were making 9th Fleet so miserable that they had to hire the best, I guess we're officially not a newbie alliance anymore. To correct a minor point from the gentleman of TBSV, however - we used our T1 Frigs to defend when 9th came to take our POS out and failed. They're also still baseline doctrine for our new pilots. We used considerably bigger ships when we went to Genesis to thank them for all the trouble they caused us when we were too small to thank them sooner. TBSV would have missed most of that since BRUCE's killboard isn't public. To the excellent and professional gentlemen of MC - I look forward to learning what may be learned from such experienced foes. We certainly weren't expanding our tactics training manuals fighting 9th. We fully expect to get thumped a bit, and we fully expect to learn a great deal. We've already noticed the patience you guys have shown in not falling for our traps, and we've already picked up a new card in our own decks from seeing one of your traps. ;) BRUCE is new, but not stupid - good luck, good hunting, and thanks for the education. See. Now that was a good post. I wish all of Eve posted like this. I'll buy you a few lap dances in Jita.
Wicke Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 02:59:00 - [167] IMO, after a war is over, young Alliances should look to contract a Corp in the MC, or even a few pilots, to come back in and start a training program for their millitary. Now I don't know what a good contract fee for this is, but I do know we MC pilots enjoy pvp'ing. The more trained the foe the more fun for us. All the MC corps are permitted to leave the alliance for a contract as long as is doesnt interfere with Seleene's busy schedule. Why does everyone think a merc corp is hired ONLY to attack a certain target or targets. I mean, we all know Dol Amroth needs cash. He might even wax your floors for a few isk per hour.
Helganstandt Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.11.24 04:43:00 - [168] Originally by: mamolian Originally by: Helganstandt AWWWWWW, no fair! I was saving up so we could hire you guys to help US take the mael outpost. NO FAIR! Dream on .. I have no choice. From now on I'll look unoriginal
Katamarino Blazing Angels Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.11.24 14:26:00 - [169] I don't really think either side has any moral high ground to claim here. We're playing to achieve our own ends - a thoroughly pointless waste of money for whoever hired (if indeed there actually is a client...) MC, and the occasional fight. In the last 24 hours I myself have been involved in chasing off 2 MC station camps, chasing a few of them around the system, and even camping one of them in the station in an amusing change of roles. It's pointless, with our objectives in mind, to ehgage if we dont have a good chance of winning - MC, being the experienced players they are, tend to recognise these situations and safespot, and this is indeed what they have been doing - sensible play, quite frankly. Interestingly, although MC have significantly more kills, in terms of isk value killed the fight is going remarkably well for BRUCE - those vagabonds are pricey
ASIV TRE Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 15:13:00 - [170] There is alot of camping in this war, as said you are playing it on your terms as you should. Its mainly a war to stop you doing stuff at the moment and causing inconvience, taking down of your 3 POS's must have been abit annoying especially if you have to put them back up again after the war has ended.
Recluse XXX North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.11.24 16:22:00 - [171] have a blast guys.... There is nothing more fun in this game then watching a suttle dock/undock and all of a sudden it gets cought by teh lag... but then again, as everyone in the MC are butt ugly I can understand why BRUCE stay docked. //Rec __________ Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 16:51:00 - [172] I thought you said you were going to fight us, Maelstrom? Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:48:00 - [173] Quote: I thought you said you were going to fight us, Maelstrom? Way to go with the smack You've read the previous posts, you know we're an industrial alliance, what did you expect? huge fleet battles? I'd say we're doing pretty well all things considered. I personally have killed 7 hostile BS, 12 cruisers and 20 Destroyers. and now a treat for you all, I've seen several people asking for Seleene to post a war report and while I'm not Seleene, I'll do my best. Enjoy. Last Friday I logged on to eve expecting to do a few hours pleasant veld mining in Rens in my Hulk. As the game opened I noticed my mailbox flashing; naturally I opened it up and as it loaded I idly speculated what it could be. Another corp mining op perhaps? or maybe a new offer from my agent? I've run a tonne of courier missions with my freighter alt recently. Imagine my shock and distress when I read that the MC had war decced us, if you can't imagine that then I'll try to illustrate my thoughts at the time: 'oh noes, s^%tting fu$úing s&%t !!!111eleven' roughly sums it up. After I stopped hyperventilating and managed to think more or less rationally again I naturally resigned all my roles then tried to quit the corp, but I couldn't (****ed 24hours wait) and so in a panic I uninstalled eve and cancelled my sub. An hour or so later I sheepishly snuck onto vent to say goodbye to my corp mates, fortunately my CEO was on and after a few hours of chatting he managed to persuade me that it wasn't the end of the world and we could infact carry on playing, I learnt a few other interesting things as well. Did you know that the MC aren't all BoB alts and they don't all fly titans? It was all news to me. Anyhow, the next day I reinstalled eve and fitted my best ship for combat. That's right, I replaced my harvester drones with warrior I's and I replaced a couple of my strip miners with civilian gatling railguns, thank goodness I was given the skills to use them when I started the game! Having brought my hulk down to I-N (apparently the alliance has an outpost in 0.0, I wish people would tell me such things earlier ) I logged off and spent the next couple of days getting over the excitement of actually being in a system with below 0.9 security. Tuesday morning and I log on again, I start off by chatting with my CEO, after all I need to find out a bit more about this 'PvP' business. It turns out to be really simple, you just go around until you find someone with a red icon on the overview and shoot them until they pop, easy. To cut a long story short I then proceed to spend a lot of time doing this, turns out there are loads of MC around and they are really not that good, sure it takes a while to kill them but eventually they die and with my Gist A small shield booster they find it pretty tough to break my tank. There is one battle though that I would like to elaborate on, I like to call it 'The Battle of E1F' There I am, hunting for the MC as usual, when I chance upon no less than 5 of them casually sitting in a belt, presumably there to trap the unwary miner or ratter. Without hesitation or delay I engage releasing my drones and letting rip with my railguns. It turns out that they are tanked quite well and in the end it takes me over 7 hours to kill all 5 of them: 3 BS and 2 cruisers, however thanks to my one remaining strip miner I managed to mine 10 cans of omber so at least I still made money :) I learnt some valuable lessons from this enagement: 1) The hulk is exceptionally under rated as a combat ship, it is in fact excellent. 2) The MC are not as good as they think they are and certainly don't fit their ships well (I looted a whole load of rubbish from them, all of it T1) 3) Giving your whole fleet the same name may be confusing for a little while but it doesn't take the enemy long to tag on (they named all their BS 'Angel Warlord', naturally after I realised this I quickly named my hulk angel warlord as well).
JabJabVVV Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:49:00 - [174] So, Ikvar, next time you are tempted to smack please be a bit more thoughtful of the situation. We aren't all 'uber PvP'ers' like you and from the evidence presented it seems to me that you aren't as uber as you would like to think you are. You haven't cost me a single ship yet even though I fight with your pilots on an almost daily basis and now that I see the empire war is ending I'm off back to Rens to carry on my mining so it looks like you never will get my precious Hulk, it was fun while it lasted but tbh Eve is all about the veld at the end of the day.
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:57:00 - [175] Originally by: JabJabVVV however thanks to my one remaining strip miner I managed to mine 10 cans of omber so at least I still made money :) That made me giggle
Lister Black The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:57:00 - [176] Originally by: JabJabVVV 3) Giving your whole fleet the same name may be confusing for a little while but it doesn't take the enemy long to tag on (they named all their BS 'Angel Warlord', naturally after I realised this I quickly named my hulk angel warlord as well). If you see a ship name that starts with "Domination", that's probably Seleene :D. ---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 18:26:00 - [177] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 24/11/2006 18:34:38 I honestly don't think Ik was trying to smack, just earlier in this thread your guys were looking forward to lots of fights and saying it will be nice to fight the MC and asking us to come down. But unfortunalty there wasn't any major fights for either side, but sometimes that's how things go Anyhow I'll leave you to your mining you want to watch out for old Menod in Rens though he'll steal your ore , also hit BDCI for mining tips runs before Siv catches him
Rukaz Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 18:49:00 - [178] Originally by: JabJabVVV Comedy Gold I salute you Sir and all who sail in you.
Kather Amarr Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 19:47:00 - [179] Originally by: Rukaz Originally by: JabJabVVV Comedy Gold I salute you Sir and all who sail in you. what do you mean comedy gold? its all true!!
Tomas Ysidro Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 20:00:00 - [180] JabJab wins the thread
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:14:00 - [181] Edited by: Ikvar on 24/11/2006 21:24:03 Originally by: JabJabVVV Quote: I thought you said you were going to fight us, Maelstrom? Way to go with the smack Before you get fired up, it's a question, not smacktalk. I just wanted to know seeing as several (I believe higher up) Maelstrom people had said that you guys were wanting to have a scrap. If that's not the case you could just say 'We don't have any reason to fight you and would rather carry on defending our space/making money/buying exotic dancers etc' instead of going 'IKVAR STOP SAYING HOW UBER YOU ARE!'. If I had have intended it to be smacktastic I would have said 'I thought you said you were going to fight us but instead every M guy logs off when one noob alt scout who they think might be from an MC member tries to jump into HED-GP' that would be smack worthy of Ginge himself. But then I'd be a huge ** (the first person quote that to say 'You are' wins a lifetime subscription to 'The Erotic Adventures of Crovan' and trust me, you don't want this ). Originally by:** JabJabVVV It turns out that they are tanked quite well and in the end it takes me over 7 hours to kill all 5 of them: 3 BS and 2 cruisers, however thanks to my one remaining strip miner I managed to mine 10 cans of omber so at least I still made money :) We weren't too pleased about you saying we aren't BOB alts, but someone so good at killing people whilst mining in a Hulk is BORN to be in the MC, please convo Leo McGarry for recruitment, you'll like the MC! (We have bistot and arknor and ASCN ). Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:22:00 - [182] ikvar rulz
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:24:00 - [183] Originally by: Hast ikvar rulz Hast lend me 100m. Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:25:00 - [184] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 24/11/2006 18:34:38 I honestly don't think Ik was trying to smack, just earlier in this thread your guys were looking forward to lots of fights and saying it will be nice to fight the MC and asking us to come down. Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:28:00 - [185] Originally by: Ikvar forum whoring LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Robert Ger Caldari Apocalyptic Raiders Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:45:00 - [186] achm sorry was afk ... so, i dont get any god MC¦s fights , that im know from early, like 3 vindicators again 1 eagle but i dont think MC¦s are all BoB¦s alts so, fly safe mfg EVE Bugs that popp my ship; and and more comes [list] Lagg game/client freezes Concord shotet my ship down, while iem attacked a Gurista NPC ^^ [*]Overview/mail/peppz an
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:47:00 - [187] lmao jab!
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:52:00 - [188] Originally by: Latex Mistress Originally by: Ikvar forum whoring Even just posting an innocent question is turned into drama hagahyauaarrghpgdf Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.24 22:59:00 - [189] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 24/11/2006 23:01:08 Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 24/11/2006 23:00:32 Originally by: Ikvar We weren't too pleased about you saying we aren't BOB alts, but someone so good at killing people whilst mining in a Hulk is BORN to be in the MC, please convo Leo McGarry for recruitment, you'll like the MC! (We have bistot and arknor and ASCN ). psst .. Ikvar ... we have bistot and CROKITE and ASCN. Its your ISS alt that has access to the ArkOnor.
Chib Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:49:00 - [190] no place like an mc thread to show off the new sig good hunting guys ---------------------------------------------
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.25 02:21:00 - [191] Originally by: Chib no place like an mc thread to show off the new sig good hunting guys This is of course the whole purpose of these threads Trax i would deny it but right now with sels new sig its difficult, I'll have to fall back on the old 'yeah we mine a bit but sharks mine sooo much mroe than us' line
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.26 12:25:00 - [192] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: JabJabVVV Quote: I thought you said you were going to fight us, Maelstrom? Thread winner Before you get fired up, it's a question, not smacktalk. Ikvar, you know you don't want to be a mercenary. It's not in your blood. You mess it up when you try to do the Merc talk. Go back to being a pirate: a bit of "Yarr!" is so much easier to spice up with the acidic humor I associate with you. Sorry Seleene by the way -- Thukkers do
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:12:00 - [193] Originally by: Smagd Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: JabJabVVV Quote: I thought you said you were going to fight us, Maelstrom? Thread winner Before you get fired up, it's a question, not smacktalk. Ikvar, you know you don't want to be a mercenary. It's not in your blood. You mess it up when you try to do the Merc talk. Go back to being a pirate: a bit of "Yarr!" is so much easier to spice up with the acidic humor I associate with you. Sorry Seleene by the way If you tempt Ikkypoo away from us, I'll kill you with a ferret and a piece of cheese. Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
War Bear Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:50:00 - [194] Originally by: Crovan If you tempt Ikkypoo away from us, I'll kill you with a ferret and a piece of cheese. I already ate the cheese dude. Sry. No matter where you go, there you are.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.26 16:51:00 - [195] we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Kaleeb Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:00:00 - [196] Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:03:00 - [197] Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit well a pic of you naked will be ok i guess then :) ♥ Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:47:00 - [198] Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit I prefer pie tbh. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:50:00 - [199] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit I prefer pie tbh. /me likes pie too. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Kaleeb Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 18:57:00 - [200] Anything for you omeega xxx
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.26 19:00:00 - [201] Originally by: Kaleeb Anything for you omeega xxx KALEEB WINS TEH THREAD!!! now let's wait Hast's answer :) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:34:00 - [202] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit I prefer pie tbh. /me likes pie too. You're a killer chick, but I don't dig emo gothic chicks, sorry Omeega. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.26 21:23:00 - [203] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Omeega we need some new drama. MC killing newbs is getting boring :) Couldn't you get Waagaa drunk and dancing in some nice and hawt cute pink-with-green-spots panties? If we did that we would have to lock him in a room with Backdoor bandit I prefer pie tbh. /me likes pie too. You're a killer chick, but I don't dig emo gothic chicks, sorry Omeega. lol. Thug is an emo kid. I'm a ghetto girl!!! I'll give you some emo waag ♥ I'm like kurnikova but I play EVE. Oh! and i have a trucker's voice too! Wait! eh... mmkay? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 21:37:00 - [204] i'm starting to get very scared -

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