Looks interesting. I think having a single weapon systems disruptor would be enough. Just add functionality to the Tracking Disruptor that is already in the game, change the module name to something more general and make it run 4 different scripts, 2 for turrets and 2 for missile launchers.

Indeed. Can you imagine what a Nemesis with 3 of these puppies, scripted for damage application and overheated on all modules, would do?

I know there could be stacking penalties -- so let's say 2 of them plus a target painter. Absolutely beautiful.

I meant brutal. Absolutely brutal.

I have only one question: Wouldn't these missile TE/TCs put even Light missile engagement ranges well past 100 km mark - would that be intended?

I think it's the same kind of issue as the base drone stats staying unchanged IIRC on the introduction of DDAs.

Fitting one of these on a caracal for example will require foregoing another mod. Whether it's a nano or BCU. It's a tradeoff for supposedly better damage application. Now to take advantage of a 100km missile range, a caracal will need a sebo to achieve this which in turn means much less tank or no TP. Sniping harpy/corm fits already hit targets out to this range and they don't have to deal with the 100km damage delay or the target supposedly warping off before damage is even applied.

Reminder: Need clarity on stacking penalties please.

And script effects - are the assumptions made valid?

The placeholders are listed as being stacking penalized: http://gyazo.com/b3680269c04beee50a0e70e70ae841f2

Yes - but stacking with rigs, or not? Stacking with hull bonuses, or not? (like how the resist bonus stacks with the first invuln on such ships). Indeed, stacking with 1 mid and 1 low fit?

Stacking with each other is one thing - I'm more interested in the other parts.


Also confirming napkin math suggests the RHML armored phoon may well be the new overlords, if one can avoid bombs. It can get hilarious DPS out and applied.

Hull bonuses are, or rather - stack as a hardener (taking the resist ones as an example). Stick an invuln on a worm, for example. You would expect an EM resist of 20% (hull) + 30% (Single invuln) but you get 44%.

The same, first hardener on a non resist bonused hull gives 30% EM resist.


So I'm worried these mods will stack with CNR/phoon/golem/etc/etc ship hull bonuses right out the door. It's unclear.

You might be wrong there... 20% hull and 30% should be 44% if not stacking penalized... 20 + ((100 - 20) * 0.3) = 44, as expected.

The question here is whether it will be stacking penalized with rigs and stuff... Taking resist as comparable example is not really useful since with resist you have 100% as max. The same could be sad for explosion radius (0), but not for explosion velocity..

Really needs an anti-missile tracking disruptor to go with these additions.

Also, it's so fitting that these missile modules are coming with the Aegis release.

it is called defender missiles.

its an issue on a caracal yes.

but a kestrel is a different story. kestrel vs corm, the kestrel has far better lock range.

a kestrel vs harpy, the kestrel has better range. a kestrel can hit targets at 97km just using rigs.

ive got a kessy right now thats cap stable with a lock range at 126km, a top speed of 2815m/s, and a missile range of 97km.

these new computers will increase my range even further.

I can't wait for the inevitable drone|projectile|laser|hybrid whine threads once these are released...

How long exactly do you have to wait for said missiles to hit your targets? Turrets don't possess such a delay and as such are inherently better for blapping and sniping even though their reach is a bit less. So, it's only normal to expect missiles to hit out to much farther ranges as compensation for ridiculous damage application delay.
This won't change much in pvp as most people will still have ample time to get away while the missiles are approaching. The same thing can be said for turrets. You will be popped before you can even react if they have enough alpha.
Garmurs and other succesful pvp missile boats will have to forgo important mods that constitute their speed and tank in other to fit this modules. I don't see a problem here. At least, for now.

It seems only people who use missiles understand the significance of delayed dps. Especially for fleet's and gangs at long ranges where you can have 2 flights of missiles in the air at any given time, huge amounts of dps are wasted on targets that have already been destroyed