Originally by: BurnHard

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Originally by: Semper Sanguis

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The word "Lag" does not compute in any WTZ related argument.

If they had removed instas and put in WT15 the problem would have been solved the exact way.

WTZ is not an exclusive solution to lag or bm load. It's a colossal cop-out on behalf of the dev team.

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The vast majority of people are extremely happy with WTZ - the vast majority of those people who aren't happy with WTZ are unhappy because ganking in low sec now requires much more effort than simply parking up by a gate in 0.4 and waiting.

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Originally by: Bodziu

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Simple dont like wtz go like other uses wt15.
Most peoples are happy with it WTZ.
We are peoples and CCP will not made all happy beacause each persons are random. we all dont like the same thinks that is humanity.
I personaly dont like new nerv of the missiles T2 torps but what i can do?
I accept it or i can leave game it is simple.
Try think in bigger scale like i told early. If you see like i saw fleet battles in 0.0 made by 2 or 3 alliances you will understand that gate bms need be removed beacause they MADE A HUGH LAG in FLEET BATTLES eaven if 100 vs 100 peoples try fight in 1 sector. You ever saw fleet of 100 or more jumping by gate to engage other fleet and havent lags or not cause node crash - beacause they have tons of bms and server need start counting it beacause they are part of the game?
I hate peoples who look on this WTZ only from his personal view. Try think in bigger sphere try 28k peoples x tons of bms = hugh needed cpu and ram to handle this disaster. What happen with Eve by last 1.5 year.
We get a hugh numbers of players. When i come play again eve it was 10k peoples max now we have around 30k. Try x that with numbers of bms what they start copy to faster travel only for that to not ganked by pirates in empire who made suicide assault on haulers and other ships.
After that math you will know how many cpu and ram is take by that bms.
I would like see better faster gameplay without bms to gate then complaining on the server speed node crash with bms to gates.
Try thinks all who dont like wtz how that can help us all in ours gameplay and lowers a cpu usage.
Simple try adept to new gameplay and stop complaining.

Ps. excuse for english

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Originally by: mallina

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not a fan of warp to 0.

yes, i use it. yes, its convieniant and its nice and easy to go that 29 jumps without breaking a sweat, but I dont believe its good for the game.

I mean, wheres the diversity? why bother buying that Drake for 53mil when you can insta 20 jumps to jita in a shuttle (even through lowsec with zero risk) and get it for 47?
what warp to 0 does is make life harder for a lot of people in the long term, ESPECIALLY T1 Ship Producers who are forced to compete with Jita prices no matter where in empire space they might be. Why should they buy your Raven for 110 when they can travel to jita and get it for 102?- bearing in mind the ship costs about 98 to build with current (and rising) mineral prices, so theres not much profit to be had with that. Easier to just run a few missions or chain NPCs in 0.0
...and then of course there's less people losing ships in lowsec, so less replacements are needed, etc

Don't get me wrong, warp to 0km does have benefits and does help newer players a lot, but it also takes an important element away from the game that I feel was what makes EVE what it is. I never agreed with Instas for many of the same reasons(though at least they costed something), but warp to 0km is just a copout solution to solve bookmark lag whilst keeping the majority of EVE happy in fear that people would cancel their accounts otherwise (like many have childishly threatened to do, which i think is pathetic)

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