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Justice Bringer Minmatar United Univers	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:21:00 - [31] Dude no one here has to prove you wrong, nor do we have to provide you with a 'Great Setup'. Any setup you choose will only be as good as the skills you have to back you up, but with that said try this on for size: High: 8 x Dual 250 II Med: AB II, Cap booster (800), 2 x Fleeting Web, Tracking Comp II Low: 2 x LAR II, 1 x Exp II, 2 x EANM II, 1 MFS II Drones: Med and light Obviously you can change the med and low slots to suit specific requirements, which of course you already know. However, if you're hell bent on comparing this ship with your Megathron then you're really wasting your time and everyone elses. It isn't a Megathron, so don't try to use it as one. Think out side the box to come up with different fitting options and don't get upset when people give replys to your rhetorical question as we're only trying to help. If you're not familiar with the 7.5% repair bonus that the Brutix and Myrmidon have then I seriously suggest you try one out with the dual med repper setup to get a feel for how it works and then try to apply the same theroy to your own Hyperion fitting and flying technique. Only once you've done that will you see how the Hyperion really is a good ship with good bonuses to match. Doing lvl 4 missions is all about speed and the best BS ship for that is probably the Raven but I also use my Mega because it's more of a challenge. When I get my Heperion I'll use that also because it's a challenge and it allows me to use different setups with the 5th med slot which on a Hyperion is more useful than the extra low on the Mega. Hope this helps. Justice
Mynk Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:26:00 - [32] I'm crushing on level 4 missions at the moment and I'm set up like this.. High 7 350 rails tech II one large smart bomb Med 4 cap II rechargers and a AB Low forget exact stuff here.. set up to passive tank at about 72% across the board here. And a tech II reapir module. With this I sit out at about 50k and crush stuff and when webbies come in close I use the smart bomb on them. If like last night I get rushed by 6 BS's I just run and loose 4 Ogres tech II and snipe at them at about 35 to 40k range.. jumping if I have to but 9 time out of 10 I can tank it and just pick them off one every min or so. My major issue is I'm good for about 8 min of hard fighting at which point I'll have to jump to recharge. But as often as not after 5 or 6 min of running BS break off and go back to spawn so I can sit out and charge up again and move back in to repeat. Looking to redo my Med slots a lot better but just not a lot of time at the moment and it works for now so till it doesn't it's not a huge priority.
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:52:00 - [33] Wack on 350's and stop been a noob the Tempest or the Typhoon but i used 1200/1400's on lvl 4 missions. If i can use 1400's in a mission that have worse tracking and on a ship with NO tracking bonus what stops the hype form loading on 350 rails and doing the same Oh yer YOU. !
Crawe Deraven	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:28:00 - [34] Buy a Raven and train for t2 Cruise Missiles.
Headbut	Posted - 2006.12.17 15:37:00 - [35] You can use it as a good nos ship good speed and not so bad tank
Kayden Drake Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.17 16:54:00 - [36] LOL you know there is, you know... more to this game than lvl 4 missions, dont you? The Hyperion is meant to be a BLASTER SHIP, and as missions are currently, blasters arent all that great for them. On the other hand, the Megathron is a RAIL SHIP, and rails are quite perfect for missions. Thus, what you are really saying you want a ship who specializes in guns which do not work well in missions to be BETTER at missions than a ship who uses guns that DO work well in missions. Does that make any sense? NO. It would be like saying "Wahh my Scorpion cant run lvl 4s when I use cruise missles, while I can in my Raven". Some ships just arent meant for missions, blasterships and EWAR ships included. If the Hyperion was better with rails than the Megathron, the ship would not be working as intended. Im glad your proving the Devs designed the ship properly. So suck it up and use the RAIL SHIP for MISSIONS, or get ure arse out into 0.0 and p00n some people with the BLASTER SHIP, which is what blasters are supposed to be used for. If you think you SHOULD be able to use your Hyperion as effectively as ure Megathron in missions, whine to CCP about how missions descriminate against melee guns, because the Hyperion is fine.
Rivian Ivantis	Posted - 2006.12.24 23:48:00 - [37] Edited by: Rivian Ivantis on 24/12/2006 23:54:08 This isnt something I've tested, but what I plan to do when I get the hype. Most of it will naturally be replaced with Tech 2 gear as I get above my current 7 mill SP :P High Slots: 7x 425 Compressed Coil Gun. 1x Large Smartbomb or whatever you like and is able to fit Medium Slots: 1x Tracking Computer II 4x F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Recharger Low Slots: 1x Large 'Accommodation' vestment reconstructor I 3x Hardeners 2x Mark I Generator Refitting: Capacitor Power Relay. Note that Im no sniper so the 60 km (63 with my mere skills) locking range is not an issue for me. Im there to soak the damage and shoot 'em down on their own game. hehe. Note 2: Im NOT a PvP'er, I fly deep in safe space. Average DPS is 149. Its planned with a Large YF-12a Smartbomb. Dunno if any other is better, of if I should put something else in that slot? I realise many people find it wise to do Level 4's with a large repper and a med repper 2 as backup. But I figure (and hope) that 1 Large named repper with the Hype's bonuses will be enough. Apart from that, as far as I can see, the cap will run for a really long time with my skills, and drain slowly when using the smartbomb. I will use 5 Valkyrie II's and 10 Warrior II's. Went with Valk's due to their high tracking speed. Feedback please? ( "PS" : With Adv. Weapons upgrades 3; I have 229.5 PG and 140.7 CPU left. )
EaglesFire Gallente Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.12.25 05:13:00 - [38] hmmm i got 8 425 proto's on, with 2 cap recharge rigs, and 1 armor boost rig, this ship can kick but very well. "Knowledge is power, and the uninformed SHALL be punished!" This is me.
Shozo Gallente Sanguinum Fratres	Posted - 2006.12.25 07:18:00 - [39] Edited by: Shozo on 25/12/2006 07:18:30 Here is a fleet setup that I've been using lately with a friend in an Abaddon. It's used as a lifeboat with a bite. High Slots: 6x 350mm Rails 2x Medium Remote Reppers Medium Slots: 2x Heavy Electrochemical Cap Injectors 1x Sensor Booster 2x Cap Rechargers Low Slots: 2x Large Reppers 4x Mission Specific Energized Plating
DoctorColossal Pervius	Posted - 2006.12.25 11:25:00 - [40] I don't fly a Hyperion. My combat dude doesn't either yet but.... You can either boost a ships strengths.... or you can complement its weaknesses. So as the tank on the Hype will be damn good anyway with the rep speed bonus why not slap in 2 x tracking enhancer IIs in the lows and fit rails. Why not test it with 350mm's to begin with. Fit 1 or 2 tracking comps in the meds too and see the results as you got alot of choice on your set up with that slot layout. You could fit a decent shield tank set up and fit 2 x mag stabs and 2 x tracking enhancers in the lows? Remember these ships... and the rigs that are meant to go with them (when they become more available ) will have super-tanking ability OR so, so much more options. Keep trying new set ups. Even without rigs it should be a killer ship for level 4s.
Eisprinzessin	Posted - 2006.12.25 17:30:00 - [41] i use a hype for level 4 mission since kali for it is better than my navy mega 8x 425mm rails sensor booster, tracking computer, afterburner, 2x cap recharger large repper 2x hardener or eanm, 3x damage mods rigs 2x cap recharge 1x power grid this setup works really nice and tanks better than the mega because of the repper bonus those who say rails dont work for tracking reasons just cant fly that is all
adfnr Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.25 23:34:00 - [42] My lvl IV mission setup is as follows: 4x 350's 4x 425's (the optimal range difference doesn't really bother me) 1x AB II 1x Tracking Comp II 3x Cap Recharger II 1x LAR II 4x mission specific T2 hardeners 1x MFS II Add light and medium drones for those frigs and you're set. ____________________ The "Change ALL Ammo"-button
Viljar	Posted - 2007.02.03 19:20:00 - [43] i have in lowslots 1xtech 2 large armor repper 4xhardeners(mission specific) and 1 slot that i keep changin stuff over but i also got 2 armor rep rigs in rig slots and 1 cap recharge rig and the thing is i only have bs lvl 3 and i can repair about 1200+ per go and it is a really good tank if you take advantage of all the armor rep bonuses
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Kassidus yes the hype can fit rails but it cant fit 8 425mm rails and it has no bonus to tracking , its the lack of the tracking that makes it no good for rails. ALso I already have a megathron that uses rails and it works good for lvl4's my point is the hype cant do anything that my mega already cant, and a Hype with rails is not a good setup for lvl4's. and like I said with my original post if someone can show me a setup that is good that is better than the megathron please do. I fit 7 425mm's on my Hyp The statis towers from the second deadspace pocket in The Rogue Slave Traders don't last too long, maybe 2 volleys if that.
no1knowsWho Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2007.02.13 12:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain x3 Mission Specific Passive Nano hardeners lol, i WANT these :)
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.02.13 12:51:00 - [46] Ive been using the hyperion now since It came out, hands down better than the mega. My full mission setup is 7x 425mm Prototype Rails 1x Drone Range Aug 2x Orion tracking Comp, 3x T2 Cap rechargers 1x Gallente Navy LAR 4x Mission Specific Active N-Type Hardeners 1x True Sansha EANM Upgrading armor rep to a Centus X LAR and will upgrade teh EANM to a better one aswell. I can use T2 Armor hardeners but that extra cap really ads up when running 4.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.02.13 13:03:00 - [47] Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 13/02/2007 13:00:07 Originally by: no1knowsWho Originally by: Rashmika Clavain x3 Mission Specific Passive Nano hardeners lol, i WANT these :) With the Armour Compensation skills trained up, they become quite effective for no capacitator use
no1knowsWho Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2007.02.13 13:33:00 - [48] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 13/02/2007 13:00:07 Originally by: no1knowsWho Originally by: Rashmika Clavain x3 Mission Specific Passive Nano hardeners lol, i WANT these :) With the Armour Compensation skills trained up, they become quite effective for no capacitator use (adaptive) nano plating by itself is not mission/rat specific
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.02.14 10:09:00 - [49] Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 14/02/2007 10:10:15 Originally by: no1knowsWho (adaptive) nano plating by itself is not mission/rat specific I agree completely, but then I never said it was: L... x1 LAR x1 1600mm plate x1 ENAM x3 Mission Specific Passive Nano hardeners Specifically (in case you are not aware of these), I am referring to: energized magnetic membrane ii energized reactive membrane ii energized reflective membrane ii energized thermic membrane ii
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 10:58:00 - [50] The hyperion is pretty much the same thing as the maelstrom but faster... wtf? did you read it? Faster than the minmatar ship.. and you are still complaining. If my maelstrom was as fast as the hyperion I would be as happy as a minmatar nuking Ammar prime. If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
The Hanz Caldari Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Kassidus WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!. ok with that asside. Let me get back to my point, why the hell would I take a Hyperion Into a lvl4 mission using 350mm rails when I can use my Megathron which already has 425mm rails , the damage on my mega is Better, and since im sniping that extra rep bonus doesnt matter!. This isnt like i dont know how to fit my ship and I damn well know rails and blasters are both hybrid weapons, infact ive almost never used blasters before, but you take a ship like the hype which is designed for blasters and I thought well lets see how it works. And im saying it doesnt, and I also said , show me a setup that works BETTER THAN THE MEGATHRON! not worse or the same, if you havnt noticed is this ship seems to have no purpose. Did you come here to hear other peoples' advice? Certainly doesn't seem to be the case. Go use your Megathron if you don't like you Hyperion. In the meantime I'll keep my Hyperion running missions better than your Megathron in tanking and damage and tracking with the same range and twice the capacitor.
Unholy Preacher Trade Consortium	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:15:00 - [52] In all honesty, the hyeprion is a decent ship to do lvl 4 missions in. The following setup is what i have been using for the past few months and has been working fine for me: 8x 350IIs 4x Cap Charger Is/named (i refuse to pay for cap charger IIs) 1x 100Mn AB II 4x Tech 2 Hardeners (race specific) 1x CPR (best named) 1x Large Rep II my cap is high enough that i can easily tank a large group that it wouldnt become an issue and the dammage from the 350s are good enough that you can take everything down within a realtively good amount of time. Granted the megathron with 425s is faster and u can snipe alot easier but in the end its all about preference and the extra armor, and rep bonus make for a pretty strong tank with the combination of a high cap charge rate
Broka Sampson	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:30:00 - [53] For those who are worried about using blasters in lvl 4's. Use target painting medium drones with 1 or two heavy webifiers. Use the drones on the frigates to blow up sig, slow them down, and then orbit them to fire. You orbit them because if your at a dead stop you won't hit them (something about transversal bla bla bla...). However, if you orbit them you should hit fine with a 50/50 chance; you only need a couple shots to hit for them to go boom anyway.
no1knowsWho Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2007.02.14 19:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 14/02/2007 10:10:15 Originally by: no1knowsWho (adaptive) nano plating by itself is not mission/rat specific I agree completely, but then I never said it was: L... x1 LAR x1 1600mm plate x1 ENAM x3 Mission Specific Passive Nano hardeners Specifically (in case you are not aware of these), I am referring to: energized magnetic membrane ii energized reactive membrane ii energized reflective membrane ii energized thermic membrane ii then dont use word nano... thats all i was trying to say
Letri Bimmet Gallente	Posted - 2007.02.14 20:15:00 - [55] Edited by: Letri Bimmet on 14/02/2007 20:13:41 Highs: 4x 425mm rails <Iridium Ammo 3x 350mm rails <Tungsten ammo (I use scouts cause proto's are too expensive atm and I don't have the skill for t2's) Drone Link Module Mediums: named AB (named cause I don't have the skill yet for a t2) named Tracking Computer (named cause I don't have the skill yet for a t2) 3x Cap Recharger II Lows Cap Recharger...(dunno it's real name...I think it's flux coil or something) named Damage Control Module 3x Rat specific hardeners Large named Armor Repper (again no t2 skills) Drones. 5x light drones (I use hobs) 5x medium drones (I use hammers) (hammers can take out a 400/500k bs quite nicely) Rig: A repair boost rig. gives me 1028 points or repair with a t1 named repper That's the setup I use and it works quite well in lvl 4's During some missions I might need to warp out but that has only happend twice. Mind you it's my first bs so I don't have anything to compare it to...but I'm really happy with it so far. It's worth the 190mill I payed for it:)
Mal Loc	Posted - 2007.02.26 17:06:00 - [56] Here is what I am trying out, feedback appreciated. Using tech 2 where possible. Hi: 7 x 350mm Rail Gun 1 x Rat Specific Smartbomb Med: 1 x 100MN AB 4 x Cap Recharger Lo: 4 x Rat specific hardener 1 x Energized Adaptive Nano 1 x Large Armor Repairer Rigs: 1 x Cap Recharge Duration 1 x Armor Repairer Amount 1 x Hybrid Weapon Tracking Speed Drones: 2 x Sentry Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Eldo Davip ([email protected])
hinch Gallente Furious Angels	Posted - 2007.02.26 17:26:00 - [57] copy and pasted off corp forums Quote: Ok now here is something interesting :) With 3 armor rep grid on a hyperion one of your T2 large reppes does rep for 101 hp / second. (with BS4) Now a dual rep setup Megathron in the same time (without rigs) can rep 106hp/s. That is ofc without any resistances calculated . You can only fit a dual rep mega if you actually fit electron blaster cannons. On a hyperion you can fit the following with AWU 4 8x T2 Ion 100mn MWD + heavy named cap booster + 20km scram, web + EW (IE Target painter or weapon disruptor (id recommend disruptors). T2 LAR + 3x T2 EANM + DC + 1x T2 MFS This setup can tank (with compensation skills) 490dps O.o :) A dual rep electron mega with 2MFS can only tank 433dps and does a little bit less damage The above hyperion does 766 dps when using T2 medium drones. Now you could remove one of the repper rigs and fit a mass reduction rig making this ship about as agile as a cruiser and compensate for the reduced base speed from the repper rigs. And youd still tank about 430 dps. With AWU 5 you can even fit the following : 8x T2 neutrons MWD Web Sramble Cap Booster Cap Recharge / Low CPU EW ( You need to use best named on most of those to make it fit). T2 LAR 3EANM II DC PDU II 2x Armor rig + capr recharge / mass reduction rig. Doesnt do alot more dps than the ion setup , but it has increased range from the neutron T2s. And now something funky .P You can fit the following : 4x T2 electrons 4x Heavy dimishing AB II Dual Web Scramble Heavy Cap booster 2x T2 Large Armor Rep 3xEANMII DC This setup can tank almost 1kdps when fitted with 3 repper rigs and it can run 1 repper forever (500dps) with just the nos running, while still doing roughly 350dps :) Furious Angels are recruiting Furious Angels
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:03:00 - [58] Edited by: Tulisin Dragonflame on 27/02/2007 09:00:24 Eight nos, buncha recharger IIs, four large reppers and the rest resists I say! Just for the pure repair-goodness. Seriously though: How effective would an eight-nos Hyperion be?
4rc4ng3L Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.27 09:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Leopold Gursky The hype about the Hyperion was that it SUCKED. I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Really! So the hyperion tanked with dual reps and 3 armor rigs must be completely useless.... sigh Get a clue before you post your dumbass comments! Death is the only true freedom, brought on by our own ignorance.... Welcome to the "free" world in which we live...*
Lt Xavier	Posted - 2007.03.09 04:36:00 - [60] I've never had trouble with my setup, kind of an oddball one though, 7 425 compressed 1 drone link 2 cap recharger IIs 1 electromechanical cap booster (rarely use) 1 named target painter 1 tracking cpu II 2 true sanshas adaptive nano membranes 1 damage control II 2 power diag IIs need the powergrid as well as the cap 1 large armor rep II 1 explosive pump 1 kenetic pump 1 thermal pump I can run the armor rep for however long as i need, keeps up just fine. Only one part of one mission i've had trouble with, but my bro has to warp out and back with his raven to finish it, i just tank it into my structure a little bit in between rep cycles and can stick it out without worry (maybe down to 75% structure before i start gaining again), thanks to the damage control. With antimatter rounds and the damage bonus things go down pretty quick and the T2 drones reaching out to 65k is alot handier than another rail would have been. I used to run a mega and I really think they both do equally well. The hyperion is sexier though. Raven is king, but i find it makes things to simple and boring.

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