Clearly my tread has been derailed, i do indeed know the main null routes are camp by people that shoot everything, this thread is for the OP and not why or how Nuller do there thing.

I switched to WOW cable a couple months ago. Faster connection, drops only last a second. Centurylink hours to days. On the other hands I have been getting DCed 3 or 4 times and hour for the last couple weeks. I don't know if it's Eve or WOW but I can log back in immediately. Not a problem in most PVE situations, a major killer in PVP.

Need more skills trained. need to get jump clone skills to make it worth not losing all the cybernetics. Need friends who know how to play the game out there.

You look angry, and so wrong, you gave me a good smile irl mostly because of all that importance you give to those internets pubbie press and useless stuff alike.
Get a life on your own, pay your bills and come back when you grow in a few years.

But you can keep blah blah about your ubber press ;D

maybe hes just curious?

Why is it you play EvE if you take no larger roll in the game, (this is not a Y U NO PVP question) you gather large sums of isk but in turn do nothing with it most people have a goal while getting isk be it a new mission ship, a titan or SC, help funding a corp project, funding for playing the markets.

Is there something you do with this isk?

It's like, it's nice to be outside right (so I'm told lol)? Outside is nice. So people go outside a lot. But they don't just stand there and stare at a tree for six hours and then go home. They do things. But, in EVE, some people do just stand and stare at the tree.

Because some people would never leave the cave given the chance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

stuff

Why on earth do you care?

I have a question ...

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Why is it you play EvE if you take no larger roll in the game, (this is not a Y U NO PVP question) you gather large sums of isk but in turn do nothing with it most people have a goal while getting isk be it a new mission ship, a titan or SC, help funding a corp project, funding for playing the markets.

Is there something you do with this isk?

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Funny that. Some people do happen to go outside and stare at trees.

Edit: Nevermind. Didn't take long for you to spew your usual haterade against carebears :

d) RL. 0.0 and blob warfare really suck, if you have to leave right in the middle and don't have more than 20min anyhow.

Emphasis on 'some'. A minority about which the same questions could be asked.

I am one of these players the OP is referring to. The game for me is solo, it may not have been designed this way, but actually most of the game lends itself well to solo play except ironically PVP.

So I spend my time mining, building, trading, hauling, mission running and exploring.

I have lived in lo and hi sec but from my view the game is hi-sec - anyone who goes to null is only going to farm ISK - what else i s actually there in null?? To play the actual game it's lo and hi - simple.

The reason I don't join a corp - because I will not take orders, I will not wear a headset and talk to the screen., show me a corp of like minded players - equals - and I will join.

Most of all EVE is a solo game, say what you like, it is solo and I'm just waiting for CCP to realize this and let us have safe space, PVP arena tournaments, the ability to walk around in stations, and to build bars and space-stations.

For the game to grow this is the future - not null.

Ask yourselves why the subscriber numbers are so low for a game as complex and beautiful as eve.

Carebears always think that reality is defined by what they think it is. They think this about EVE and about other people.

It's like they are all solipsists or something.

I am one of these players the OP is referring to. The game for me is solo, it may not have been designed this way, but actually most of the game lends itself well to solo play except ironically PVP.

So I spend my time mining, building, trading, hauling, mission running and exploring.

I have lived in lo and hi sec but from my view the game is hi-sec - anyone who goes to null is only going to farm ISK - what else i s actually there in null?? To play the actual game it's lo and hi - simple.

The reason I don't join a corp - because I will not take orders, I will not wear a headset and talk to the screen., show me a corp of like minded players - equals - and I will join.

Most of all EVE is a solo game, say what you like, it is solo and I'm just waiting for CCP to realize this and let us have safe space, PVP arena tournaments, the ability to walk around in stations, and to build bars and space-stations. For the game to grow this is the future - not null.

Ask yourselves why the subscriber numbers are so low for a game as complex and beautiful as eve.

Why not just say they are self-centered?

-Spaceships are cool.
-Explosions are pretty.
-The thunder of guns is satisfying.
-Seeing more money coming in that going out isn't something I get to see a lot in real life :P

But mostly, I don't have the time to invest in a corp. I only play when I feel like it, and when things like Skyrim come along, I may not log in for weeks. That doesn't make me a good asset to a corp. Things like POS's require upkeep and protection, so I can't even effectively homestead my own place. I could low-sec pvp, but I don't play enough to generate the income to keep up that sort of lifestyle, since I'll probably lose a lot of ships learning.

So what is there for someone like me to do that isn't mining boring, but pays well? Mission. Content that is always there, always ready, and based on my timetable. Beholden to no one's schedule or desires but my own.

And you act like I never buy anything. Like my isk mountain just grows and grows and I sleep on it like some sort of really awesome space dragon. I buy better modules. I dump salvage into the system. I buy a crap ton of ammunition. I buy rigs and better tractors for my salvage boat. I buy scout ships for when I want to just fly around the universe for no damn reason other than to see the sights. True, I've been saving for a Machariel, so I have some wealth amassed, but I also bought a Tornado a couple days ago just because it was so sweet looking. I don't even have a use for it. But boom, 51 mill in someone's pocket.

I play the game the way I've found it works for me. No one gets to tell me whether that's right or wrong. It is mine.

Because that isn't what I meant.