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SSandra
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:19:00 -
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Thank you so much. Been waiting and waiting for this.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gamer4liff on 08/12/2006 02:22:37 um, link please? EDIT: Found it
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SSandra
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:23:00 -
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Log out of Eve and log back in. It's in the little box!
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ToxicFire
Warlords Corp The Core Collective
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:31:00 -
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"And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:35:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/12/2006 02:36:09
Originally by: ToxicFire "And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
What people will soon find out is that there were no cartels in the first place, just a few thousand Vagabond pilots desperate for replacement HACs
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Oarta
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:38:00 -
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Hmm.. It says re-seeding those that were lost and destroyed. I wonder off hand how many actually fall under this category.
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Montaire
Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/12/2006 02:36:09
Originally by: ToxicFire "And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
What people will soon find out is that there were no cartels in the first place, just a few thousand Vagabond pilots desperate for replacement HACs
We both know better. I'd say 10 of the 20 of each HAC BPO is in the hands of 1 of 3 alliances.
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DefJam101
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 08/12/2006 02:36:09
Originally by: ToxicFire "And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
What people will soon find out is that there were no cartels in the first place, just a few thousand Vagabond pilots desperate for replacement HACs
I'll have to get lofty to translate that for me.
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Caliente Loot
Bleak Op's Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:51:00 -
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I personally don't care about the cartels. I am just hoping for an opportunity at a BPO...which will finally be here...w00t.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.08 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: ToxicFire "And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
What people will soon find out is that there were no cartels in the first place, just a few thousand Vagabond pilots desperate for replacement HACs
We both know better. I'd say 10 of the 20 of each HAC BPO is in the hands of 1 of 3 alliances.
That's probably true. But its not a cartel--its just alliances selling them to their own pilots for their own benefit. They're not teaming up with each other.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 03:09:00 -
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Looking forward to paying a sane price for covert ops cloaks in spring. Maybe.
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.12.08 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: ToxicFire "And it was as if millions of T2 producers cried out then were silenced" man i love that quote
say buh bye to cartels until T3
What people will soon find out is that there were no cartels in the first place, just a few thousand Vagabond pilots desperate for replacement HACs
We both know better. I'd say 10 of the 20 of each HAC BPO is in the hands of 1 of 3 alliances.
That's probably true. But its not a cartel--its just alliances selling them to their own pilots for their own benefit. They're not teaming up with each other.
If 1-3 alliances control the market, you had better be a part of those 1-3 alliances if you want to pay a fair price...
osnap that is what a cartel is.
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2SecondsTilMidnight
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Posted - 2006.12.08 04:49:00 -
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Heavy missle launchers might be affordable again!
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Maltrox
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.08 04:55:00 -
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Question, and I don't know much about T2 BPO's so please, save the flames:
With this announcement, does reseeding indicate that T2 BPO's will be available on the market as are T1 BPO's, or does this mean that T2 BPO's will only be reseeded for people "in the know", that is, those with RnD agents and the like?
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Maltrox Question, and I don't know much about T2 BPO's so please, save the flames:
With this announcement, does reseeding indicate that T2 BPO's will be available on the market as are T1 BPO's, or does this mean that T2 BPO's will only be reseeded for people "in the know", that is, those with RnD agents and the like?
The BPOs will be put in the lottery and people with research agents might get a chance to win one.
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Lazy8s
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:02:00 -
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Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
No, damn it, no, what is wrong with you people?
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Haywood Jahblomy
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:09:00 -
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humm i doubt there'll be such a huge effect: even if there were 10% more HACs on the market, i would expect a similar 10% drop in prices... for a very short time... then we'll be back at the ever-lasting inflation that just comes with such a static t2 concept in this dynamically growing environment.
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Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:11:00 -
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Yah... I will take my new t2 bpo and immediatly trash it!
... umm
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Lil Belle
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
Ah yes, excellent reasoning! Everyone can fly intys/af within a few months, therefore ALL T2 BPOS MUST BE SEEDED ON MARKET, IT JUST WORKS!
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Lord Frost
Minmatar The Crystal Method
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Haywood Jahblomy humm i doubt there'll be such a huge effect: even if there were 10% more HACs on the market, i would expect a similar 10% drop in prices... for a very short time... then we'll be back at the ever-lasting inflation that just comes with such a static t2 concept in this dynamically growing environment.
Not sure where I read it, but a dev posted there may even be more t2 bpos of everything to compensate for the growing eve popualtion.... so yes, prolly a huge difference. I'd be more concerned with t2 components skyrocketing.
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Lazy8s
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lazy8s on 08/12/2006 05:34:19
Originally by: Lil Belle
Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
Ah yes, excellent reasoning! Everyone can fly intys/af within a few months, therefore ALL T2 BPOS MUST BE SEEDED ON MARKET, IT JUST WORKS!
Ok give a good reason not to. They are not significantly better in PvP. They are better but it's not like an AF can take out 2 or 3 frigates solo. They wouldn't mess up running missions. I don't see the problem. If anything it would force people to become good at flying their ship instead of just being good at being able to afford a HAC. Now, they might need to raise the material cost so the base cost is higher, I do agree they would be too cheap as they are now, but if you put the HAC BPOs on the market and made them cost 50mil a piece in mats what would be the problem? The only reason not to is to artificially inflate the prices. I haven't heard a good argument for T2 BPOs not being sold openly on the market yet. Perhaps it exist but I haven't heard it yet.
Originally by: Gamer4liff
Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
No, damn it, no, what is wrong with you people?
Again, why not? If there's a good reason I would change my mind, but I just can't think of one.
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Dao 2
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 05:56:00 -
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yay for cheaper t2 **** \o/ ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s Edited by: Lazy8s on 08/12/2006 05:34:19
Originally by: Lil Belle
Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
Ah yes, excellent reasoning! Everyone can fly intys/af within a few months, therefore ALL T2 BPOS MUST BE SEEDED ON MARKET, IT JUST WORKS!
Ok give a good reason not to. They are not significantly better in PvP. They are better but it's not like an AF can take out 2 or 3 frigates solo. They wouldn't mess up running missions. I don't see the problem. If anything it would force people to become good at flying their ship instead of just being good at being able to afford a HAC. Now, they might need to raise the material cost so the base cost is higher, I do agree they would be too cheap as they are now, but if you put the HAC BPOs on the market and made them cost 50mil a piece in mats what would be the problem? The only reason not to is to artificially inflate the prices. I haven't heard a good argument for T2 BPOs not being sold openly on the market yet. Perhaps it exist but I haven't heard it yet.
Originally by: Gamer4liff
Originally by: Lazy8s Just put them on the market FFS. Everyone can fly an inty/AF after a couple of months of play anyways.
No, damn it, no, what is wrong with you people?
Again, why not? If there's a good reason I would change my mind, but I just can't think of one.
you must be a very bad AF pilot.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s They are not significantly better in PvP. They are better but it's not like an AF can take out 2 or 3 frigates solo.
I believe the proper term would be massacre, extreme resists and damage for a frig, would kick the other frigates asses unless it was situation (web, scram and hit from distance) kind of stuff which often doesn't work without a lot of coordination.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest you must be a very bad AF pilot.
^ what he said
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:18:00 -
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Not trying to be funny, but what difference is this going to make?
Do you honestly think the new BPO holders aren't going to become just as greedy? I don't think prices will change much.
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Lazy8s
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Dragerest you must be a very bad AF pilot.
^ what he said
Or neither of you guys can fly a T1 frig very well. That's the other possibility. You know, just tossing it out there. 1v1 yeah an AF wins in most cases (of course if they were cheap most everyone would be in an AF then it wouldn't be a huge advantage) but you get a friend to help you with the AF and it's no big deal. Just like every other MMO I have played over the last 8 or 9 years, you can't balance PvP on 1v1 situations. If an AF is giving you problems bring a cruiser or a BC. Just because a vagabond can own a stabber 1v1 doesn't mean vagabonds shouldn't be 50mil.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Dragerest you must be a very bad AF pilot.
^ what he said
Or neither of you guys can fly a T1 frig very well. That's the other possibility. You know, just tossing it out there. 1v1 yeah an AF wins in most cases (of course if they were cheap most everyone would be in an AF then it wouldn't be a huge advantage) but you get a friend to help you with the AF and it's no big deal. Just like every other MMO I have played over the last 8 or 9 years, you can't balance PvP on 1v1 situations. If an AF is giving you problems bring a cruiser or a BC. Just because a vagabond can own a stabber 1v1 doesn't mean vagabonds shouldn't be 50mil.
Or it's just that having 25% more damage, 50% more range, 75% more reists on primary racial, 50% more reists on secondary racial.
2 - 4 x more HP
More capacitor, and about 40% more fitting makes you kill Tech I frigs like they were nothing. Honestly I can't imagine a good AF pilot losing to 3 Tech I frigates unless it was situational.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lazy8s
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Originally by: Dragerest you must be a very bad AF pilot.
^ what he said
Or neither of you guys can fly a T1 frig very well.
Says the nameless alt .
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