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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi If you want to put a spin on the relationships IAC has with its allies then I suggest you get your ship, take up your arms, and put your money where your mouth is and stop being an armchair analyst.
ROFL .. mate, I'm in your base killing your doods! .. er .. well, technically, I'm cloaked OFF your base counting your doods, but you know what I mean. 
Myn
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Maria Ravenwind
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:17:00 -
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Now I'm speaking from a Grunt Pilot's point of view, as that is what I am!
First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations? Personally I hate POS wars, and we all know that ISS is capable of spamming mad POS all over the place. I think the majority of our pilots have wanted this to happen simply for the rush of the fight, not the aquirement of more outposts. It's all about the PEW-PEW, not the P--__-_-E--EW-_P-WWW--E (<--- that was supposed to be a text-rendering of lag).
So lets fight it out. We all need to relieve the tensions that have built up over the past few months. Maybe we can become close friends with ISS after this conflict clears. Honestly, with how close we are in territory terms, it'd be a very good idea for both of us to be at least reasonable friends again.
As for now I only hope for 2 things:
1) That we keep the Dreads-beating-the-POSes-up-and-then-putting-more-POSes-up stays out of it
2) That ISS is able to keep the mercs out of it and fight for themselves. Not to speak negatively about ISS, but many pilots in ISS talk about themselves being an Industrial Alliance that doesn't interest in PvP conflicts too much. Well, what did IAC start out as? That's right, industrial. We still are, but now we like to fight too!
So, enough talk. I'm personally happy to see this come to fruition. It means I have a good excuse to fly next to the PRI guys!
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: Meltdown MC....... fancy coming to get pwned?
Got ISK? Got Plan?
Good! Will shoot!
qft. i love waaga. bawk!
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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insanebe
Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 11/12/2006 05:15:17 ISS you're now -10
Lets Dance.
EDIT for spelling cause Frools called me a noob 
i nominate this as the worst kept secret in eve :D knowledge is power.... guard it well |

Sgt Napalm
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sgt Napalm on 11/12/2006 05:37:16 The gloves are off and I'm taking this personal.
Prepare to die.

Good to see you again Mynas.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far
May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis.
although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you
Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's.
More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
dude, are you serious? every iac ive seen today is shouting about how they are going to take the iss stations. I have ways of hearing things. pretty funny misdirection tho.
still, maybe you will succeed. respect if you do. bawk and gl to both sides, will be watching these forums for updates
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Lister Black
The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: n sx
Originally by: Lister Black
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's.
More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
I hope you're telling the truth :P. POS wars are FTL, Fleet fights like today's are FTW.
GF to all involved!
I am glad someone else is enjoying it! 
A load of shoosting, clearing out the gun barrels and getting all grudges out in the open are probably the best for ISS and IAC relations since we've both ever been neighbours.
From a political perspective I'm sad we're going to war because blah, blah, blah.
From a personal perspective, this is the kind of things I joined EVE for. It's a game, I'm here to have fun, and I have fun by shoosting others. It might be a simple point of view, but complicated things bum me out.
IAC leadership has said they don't want ISS outposts. Maybe, they're lying, but I hope they're not. Territorial disputes (and, by transition, POS wars) are complicated and, from my perspective, not fun. If all goes well, we'll both emerge stronger out of this and perhaps even friends once again.
So, once again, good luck and good fight to both sides.
P.S.: I really do hope this war ends soon, you guys have great prices :D.
---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink |

Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Ravenwind
First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations?
Originally by: Georgik Sojik
May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis.
although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's.
More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind
First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations?
Originally by: Georgik Sojik
May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis.
although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's.
More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
If people want tinfoilery... I want ISS Tycho because I want it to be named The Nest Comedy Club
After it's open for business we will have Stavros and Oveur do standup... do some karaoke... and drink with our ISS business partners who didn't want to openly sell their defunkt outposts so they asked us to go to war to throw shareholders off the scent.
We are all here to have a good time. See you at the comedy show. I'll be wearing 1400 tech IIs.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 11/12/2006 06:22:35 For all you greedy forumy types. Here is some stats from the first coupla hours in the fighting in ZXIC
Kills:
BS: 25 elite BC: 1 BC: 9 Cruisers: 20 HAC: 2 Frigs: 47
losses:
BS: 3 (domi, domi, scorp) << short range 4tl! crazy bastards :P BC: 4 Cruisers: 10 Frigs: 45
This is from IAC's private killboard so if ISS has some more BS losses then please feel free to send them to me and I will post them.
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Templer Relleg
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:34:00 -
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Woot. Im SO MUCH looking forward to shoosting right next door, and even in our backyard.
Maybe we will even own 4 stations, within soonÖ 
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Templer Relleg Woot. Im SO MUCH looking forward to shoosting right next door, and even in our backyard.
Maybe we will even own 4 stations, within soonÖ 
you forget consido 16 jumps over...
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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xh'duality
Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 06:48:00 -
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What it looked like after the first Big engadement.
ss
--------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON |

Maria Ravenwind
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian
Originally by: Maria Ravenwind
First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations?
Originally by: Georgik Sojik
May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis.
although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's.
More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
Holy Moses man, good job reading my original post.
Note the part about "In a serious manner". Has there been a post officially saying we will? No. We will? Who knows? I sure as hell don't. But at this point this is not what this conflict is about.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.11 07:52:00 -
[165]
Good Huntimg IAC --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee My Opinions pretty much represent my corp. Boo fkin hoo. |

Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:17:00 -
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Enough with this talk of MC basing from ISS stations to siege IAC. Not only does the current charter resolve such issues, but had, say, Ushra'Khan (before constructing Unity Station) used ISS Consido to attack CVA's Inflatable House station, how would that be any different? Neither MC, FIX, or IAC were considered hostile by ISS, and so ISS didn't take a side. How is that not neutrality?
If we had taken sides and helped IAC, that would be breaking neutrality. Neutrality and apoliticism is not about helping everybody, it's about not getting involved.
Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought.
I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact.
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Oz's Tourney Betting Pool |

maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought.
I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact.
You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations...
Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen  ____________
The Priory Killboard |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: maGz You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations...
The intention has been stated. I'll believe it when I see it tho.
Quote: Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen 
Oh, I see. Should I be expecting a contract offer to hit ISS soon then? -
Oz's Tourney Betting Pool |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: maGz
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought.
I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact.
You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations...
Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen 
MC are still on Contract remember, so they can't technically do anything either way until said contract is up So im gonna go out on a limb here and say that we won't see the MC for at least a week. Assuming of course that ISS feel the need to contact them.
Should proove to be an interesting week.
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Oh, I see. Should I be expecting a contract offer to hit ISS soon then?
Nah I'm poor  ____________
The Priory Killboard |

Caleb Paine
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:13:00 -
[172]
Stop buying those manlove magazines, you get brainrot from those.
<3
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine Stop buying those manlove magazines, you get brainrot from those.
<3
But but no pictures to post on local then...
<3 ____________
The Priory Killboard |

GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: maGz But but no pictures to post on local then...
<3
Choo Choo!
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:03:00 -
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Someone said it much earlier but yeah: South >> North right now. I wonder how many more wars need to start before the map shows conflict markers everywhere 
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RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:13:00 -
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everyone seems to forget that MC is on a retainer to ISS. So as soon as the pressure starts to get a little too much MC will join. Also selene stop all the talk about IAC hiring MC to strike ISS.
even if someone felt the urge to, and had the isk to, i doubt they could come up with a sufficient plan that wouldnt get a response of "sorry no plan no war, besides we have goons to kill, the plan of undocking works so well with them"
Also didnt an MC or BOB member admit the war between MC and RAGOONS was a war done for BOB. due to it not being a paid war, and also the fact that between BOB and MC alot of ppl probably have shares, stopping any big ISS assault would come first, over the harrassment of RAGOONS
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 11/12/2006 10:40:29
Rich, I'm surprised you would even bother with all of this but IÆll reply because IÆve flown with you and respect your abilities in that regard. >3
Originally by: RichThugster everyone seems to forget that MC is on a retainer to ISS.
Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS.
Quote: So as soon as the pressure starts to get a little too much MC will join.
MC will get involved when my wallet flashes.
Quote: Also selene stop all the talk about IAC hiring MC to strike ISS.
Why? IAC isn't poor. It seems to me though that the option isn't being explored due to personal issues or the perceived bias of MC on this issue.
Quote: even if someone felt the urge to, and had the isk to, i doubt they could come up with a sufficient plan that wouldnt get a response of "sorry no plan no war, besides we have goons to kill, the plan of undocking works so well with them"
Not sure what you mean about the 'undocking' comment. As for the rest, the plan would be pretty easy. This isn't BoB / ASCN / D2, etc... It's IAC and ISS, two medium sized alliances in specific areas of space.
Quote: Also didnt an MC or BOB member admit the war between MC and RAGOONS was a war done for BOB.
If they did then they are talking out of their ass. BoB has absolutely nothing to do with our current contract. I find it amazing that people would think BoB is even involved in this conflict with the mile-long list of others who have a vested interest in the fate of Scalding Pass and the surrounding area.
Quote: due to it not being a paid war and also the fact that between BOB and MC alot of ppl probably have shares, stopping any big ISS assault would come first, over the harrassment of RAGOONS
Oh, we're certainly getting paid, m8.
As for the ISS shareholder question, that's a better one. Just because IAC and your alliance has chosen to walk down a certain path with regard to ISS does not mean that the rest of EVE will rally behind you. It will most likely have the opposite effect, with ISS flexing its financial muscles and calling in friends of their own.
Maybe that's what you guys want: a big fight. Well, I'm sure you'll get it. I do wonder how much of this is just pointless saber-rattling for the sake of a little 'pew-pew' and how much is serious intent to take the ISS stations. If it's mainly the former, I think everyone will have a good time for a while and all will be well. If it's the later, I think the fun factor is going to die very quickly because then it becomes a rather serious matter for several hundred (thousand?) ISS shareholders.
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semp
Caldari Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: semp on 11/12/2006 11:17:07 So its IAC v ISS.
No standings changes required for Tyrell, and we will as always prosecute IAC targets where and when we find them. Good luck ISS.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:23:00 -
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Ye gods, people. Can we just stop the smack. I know I don't personally hate any IAC, let's just shoot each other.
Oh and please please PLEASE let this keep going for at least 2 weeks. I get to fly my thanatos in 11 days and I want to christen it properly  --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 11:24:00 -
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IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough 
Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders.
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