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DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 21:59:00 - [1] ISS your now -10 Lets Dance.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:00:00 - [2] I approve of this announcement ____________ The Priory Killboard
Soren Caldari PAK	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:01:00 - [3] oh noes! ☠-->-->--
WiseMan Ari Caldari The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:01:00 - [4] best announcement i've seen, go tyrrax Support the NSPDP National Society For the Protection of Discriminated Pirates
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:01:00 - [5] Should be interesting mate.
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:01:00 - [6] my boner just broke my zipper
patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:01:00 - [7] Hahahaha, finally!!!! Give them hell IAC!!!!!
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:02:00 - [8] im so horny im touching myself!!!!
Praetorian Mardou The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:02:00 - [9] Free Cookies to IAC
Nadija The Priory	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:02:00 - [10] Originally by: Gus Preston my boner just broke my zipper & poked me in the eye =/ Go IAC MY SIG BANNER GALLERY
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [11] About time. I knew this was coming, Yall never believed me =p Good Luck IAC.
Parad iseLost The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [12] It all got a bit more intresting now Pew Pew
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [13] IAC, kill all those ISS
Hellrazer	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [14] pld iac
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [15] the price to end the war, 1 t2 fitted dominix?
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:03:00 - [16] burn baby burn gl iac and iss
Chi Prime Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:04:00 - [17] Interesting indeed.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Marovinchian the price to end the war, 1 t2 fitted dominix? lol
Dagnis The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:04:00 - [19] Lets pew pew Whoop Whoop
Meltdown Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:04:00 - [20] MC....... fancy coming to get pwned?
Timebomb The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:05:00 - [21] im always in the wrong part of space when something kewl kicks off. Go IAC !! :p ----------------------
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:05:00 - [22] "in light of recent occurrances IAC have set ISS to -10" Was what I asked spiraljunkie to say, he added the rest himself http://eve.klaki.net/
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Meltdown MC....... fancy coming to get pwned? They don't get owned. The client just disappears ____________ The Priory Killboard
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:06:00 - [24] sweeeeet ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:07:00 - [25]
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:07:00 - [26] Whoa, good stuff!!!! ---
N Solarz Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:08:00 - [27] /me is having a field day : )
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:11:00 - [28] Why? What happened? ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
pardux The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:11:00 - [29] pewpewpew ^_^ wai wai
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:11:00 - [30] iss meh i am WIERCHAS i am like UBER and stuff
Jessia	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:12:00 - [31] Might i ask why you have set ISS to -10?
Demoria The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:14:00 - [32] Lets get ready to rumble!! ------------------------------------------ i am the flying moo ham edd
Kelio Rift Caldari Serenity and Unicum Hungarian Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:16:00 - [33] Yes, that would really interest me too, what is the reason for this sudden setting to -10? "In a living body, a dead, senseless soul floats, waiting for death, yet cannot laugh..."
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:17:00 - [34] Nice, i'm just done baking pancakes. Lets take our bags and camp on tycho! ISS, prepare to be griefed into oblivion. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:23:00 - [35] Maybe ISS will think twice about allowing hostile forces to attack their neighbours in the future.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:24:00 - [36] That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:25:00 - [37] Originally by: DHB FooFighter ISS your now -10 you're* nub <3
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:26:00 - [38] i wanna be in a "iss your now -10" thread gl to all REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:26:00 - [39] Oh joy. Couldn't you have started when I still have weekend left?
N Solarz Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. bah, you guys have been escalating for the past week! ISSN doubles its presence in zxic, 6 more towers go up, unnessacary locking of IAC members. lets looked at who provoed who, and i think that the clear answer is ISS provoked IAC. these opinions are my own and do not affect my corps or alliances views.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:31:00 - [41] Originally by: N Solarz Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. bah, you guys have been escalating for the past week! ISSN doubles its presence in zxic, 6 more towers go up, unnessacary locking of IAC members. lets looked at who provoed who, and i think that the clear answer is ISS provoked IAC. these opinions are my own and do not affect my corps or alliances views. Yes, because clearly putting up towers in an outpost system is a hostile action.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. Fun to see how you once again try to spin it to you being the poor neutral alliance... ____________ The Priory Killboard
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:44:00 - [43] Ok, since i dont wanna destroy everyone's isk. I offer to buy ISS shares in the outposts we are gonna steal in the next weeks, i offer 1 isk a piece. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Packtu'sa Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:45:00 - [44] These are my personal views, and not that of my alliance or corporation. Our reinforcement of ZXIC-7 cannot be construed as a hostile action. It was a defensive measure which was taken to protect ISS during a time of vulnerability when intelligence was weak and could not confirm anything. There was a significant possibility in the minds of ISS that both of our alliances were being manipulated into a war which would benefit a third party. Unfortunately, it seems that IAC lack the integrity to be honest. It goes against every one of ISS's interests to engage in a war with IAC; what motivation could there possibly be to provoke a neighbor into war? If you don't have the decency to declare war openly, at least have the decency to admit that you're the aggressor. Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC]
Clipparius ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:46:00 - [45] Originally by: N Solarz bah, you guys have been escalating for the past week! ISSN doubles its presence in zxic, 6 more towers go up, unnessacary locking of IAC members. lets looked at who provoed who, and i think that the clear answer is ISS provoked IAC. Yeah, right. You just fancied some ganks. Be honest about it for gods sake. You suddenly set us to -10, and blob 2 of our outpost systems, and we are the aggressors?
Promon Delnai Scorn. Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.10 22:55:00 - [46] Im Promon Delnai, and I approve this message. ________________ I did punch a baby in anger once, but in my defense that baby was kinda bein a *****.
Vensa Heckler ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:01:00 - [47] Originally by: N Solarz Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. bah, you guys have been escalating for the past week! ISSN doubles its presence in zxic, 6 more towers go up, unnessacary locking of IAC members. lets looked at who provoed who, and i think that the clear answer is ISS provoked IAC. these opinions are my own and do not affect my corps or alliances views. Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, i know this because a couple of you were *****ing (templer relleg, bek, raem civire) about it on irc, they also stated that you would be setting us to -10 (templer relleg) (even tho this was "corrected" by a fellow iac member (raem civire), that "aparantly" we were adjusting standings) Saturday: we are told to expect an imenant attack on zxic and kdf from a coalition of alliances living in or near catch. towers are put up in zxic (WHICH IS OUR FETHING OUTPOST SYSTEM, quite how you think that this is us preparing to attack you i really don't know) as a precaution, and scouts are posted in surrounding systems to keep an eye out on fleet movements. pilots are also asked to converge on zxic JUST IN CASE WE ARE ATTACKED. (at this time, lots of your haulers move in and out of both zxic and kdf. one of your cyno ships aslo moves into zxic and a carrier jumps in). you send a frigate fleet through kdf and zxic, and n sx questions my and one other issn members presence in f4r2. Sunday: we are given the order to cool it, as management is dealing with the situation. i haven't logged in much today. and considering i'm going back home (where there is no internets) next week. i doubt it be involved much in this conflict. I have no problem with you setting us to -10, just be honest with your reasons. or do you lie that much to your members to pit them against us? IF anyone thinks the actions i have presented here are conjunctive with us being the malicious horrible sploiting backstabbing evil that we usually are and attacking IAC, then i feel sorry that you are so damn blind (or stupid). Goodbye and see you in space. (and if i get kicked out of issn or reprimanded for this post, i could care less. someone had to speak up against these children and their incessant stupidity, and it would give me a reason to quit this god awful game) - Love is the Law, Love under Will
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:04:00 - [48] PWN tbh
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:10:00 - [49] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/12/2006 23:09:39 ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:20:00 - [50] Oh goody, a fight. And quite possibly a free outpost --------------------------------------------------------------------
Vensa Heckler ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:21:00 - [51] Edited by: Vensa Heckler on 10/12/2006 23:22:32 Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/12/2006 23:09:39 ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves. jesus christ guys, you aren't the center of the universe. perhaps this threat you could see that no one else can is your own ******* egos - Love is the Law, Love under Will
Clipparius ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:22:00 - [52] Originally by: BlackHorizon We just responded first this time. So, you attacked us first? OK, thanks for some honesty at least from IAC on this.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:25:00 - [53] Originally by: Vensa Heckler FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, i know this because a couple of you were ****ing (templer relleg, bek, raem civire) about it on irc, they also stated that you would be setting us to -10 (templer relleg) (even tho this was "corrected" by a fellow iac member (raem civire), that "aparantly" we were adjusting standings) You provided our enemies with a safe haven to launch their attacks from during our biggest territorial crisis so far. The fact that it was the MC is a mitigating factor, but your refusal to correct this after the initial invasion is a sticking point with many IAC. This, coupled with stilted responses from ISS regarding rogue corporations only further contributed to enmity. Our war was inevitable and is justified. As for your "quotes", the original order was that we had received intel that ISS was changing it's standings to us, and IAC pilots were urged to remove their stuff from Marginis and Tycho while our diplomats attempted to reach a peaceful solution. Anyway. Nice stations, we'll take them! ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC*
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:25:00 - [54] Edited by: Nyphur on 10/12/2006 23:29:20 Originally by: Vensa Heckler Originally by: BlackHorizon ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves. jesus christ guys, you aren't the center of the universe. perhaps this threat you could see that no one else can is your own ******* egos Vensa, you aren't meant to be replying in this thread. you don't represent the ISS in any way, shape or form. EDIT: In fact pretty much nobody but ISS Management should respond, to be honest. Expect liberal spanking. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Tenerhaddi Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:27:00 - [55] lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:32:00 - [56] Originally by: Tenerhaddi lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. Hi. Priory helped us. If you ask us to take sides with them vs. most of EVE, alot of us will choose Priory. Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. ISS is not on the list. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:33:00 - [57] hf IAC You Will Cry My Name
Tenerhaddi Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:36:00 - [58] Originally by: Raem Civrie Originally by: Tenerhaddi lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. Hi. Priory helped us. If you ask us to take sides with them vs. most of EVE, alot of us will choose Priory. Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. ISS is not on the list. Ever the war started i hear they shoot iss all the time and continued to do so when they in ur alliance so go figure! Also funny when they felt they seem to be coursing trouble in the area between IAC and ISS again go figure. Anyhow not responing to this. We stated are stand and all i say good fun guys
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:36:00 - [59] Originally by: Tenerhaddi lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. IAC are official members of the mantrain, dont be jealous thats just the way it is
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:36:00 - [60] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh goody, a fight. And quite possibly a free outpost and do you intend to undock for this conflict? or is your Ibis of doom going to see combat (time and time again) Originally by: Tenerhaddi So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. oh noes? REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:36:00 - [61] Hmm.. ISS receives intel that IAC are preparing to attack. IAC receives intel that ISS are about to attack. Anyone suspect that the whole situation is being engineered? Interesting how Priory had been hinting at "something to come" for more than a week now. Shame on IAC for allowing themselves to be manipulated, props to ISS for not taking the bait.
Crax McGee Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:39:00 - [62] Whooopee can i help?? :D
Tenerhaddi Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:40:00 - [63] Originally by: Tenerhaddi Remember Good pilots dont need to smack.
Yurito Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:40:00 - [64] so why not mention an important irritation caused by ISS: we fended off CC/CDC to help ISS keep the Tycho station, but ISS NAPed them while our gang was hanging out in the system, and they told us to leave. that's just one of the infractions :\ O_o
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:42:00 - [65] Originally by: Tenerhaddi lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol ... Originally by: Tenerhaddi Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:44:00 - [66] Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. This is why an ISS pilot ganged with Ushra'khan forces and engaged CVA ships persuing a legitimate war last night, outside of ISS space? ---- It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:45:00 - [67] Edited by: maGz on 10/12/2006 23:46:15 Originally by: Crozon Hmm.. ISS receives intel that IAC are preparing to attack. IAC receives intel that ISS are about to attack. Anyone suspect that the whole situation is being engineered? Interesting how Priory had been hinting at "something to come" for more than a week now. Shame on IAC for allowing themselves to be manipulated, props to ISS for not taking the bait. Uh ISS have been manipulating with IAC for more than a year now... I seriously think you guys give us too much credit in this whole thing. Is it that hard to believe that people simply does not like ISS? EDIT: Do keep posting these conspiracy-theories, they're mildly amusing ____________ The Priory Killboard
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:45:00 - [68] Originally by: Crozon Hmm.. ISS receives intel that IAC are preparing to attack. IAC receives intel that ISS are about to attack. Anyone suspect that the whole situation is being engineered? Interesting how Priory had been hinting at "something to come" for more than a week now. Shame on IAC for allowing themselves to be manipulated, props to ISS for not taking the bait. oh noes, tinfoil hat time lads!
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:46:00 - [69] Originally by: Tenerhaddi So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. Yay more people to shoot at, i hope you guys come around i love targets that actualy come to me instead of havign to travel 40 + jumps to find some targets.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:48:00 - [70] I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. --------
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:49:00 - [71] Congratulations on finally turning to the dark side IAC. I see the timely removal of SMK from IAC's raks was a well timed and justified move. (please note, no longer a memeber of SMK) Obviously the meaning of the word neutral escapes you. Yes, they might have provided a safe haven for an offensive force to attack you, but isn't the counterpart to that, that they also provide a safe haven for your pilots on their attacks on other ISS neighbours. Although I suppose I must say well done for the end of the pretense and actually stating in bold what you hope to achieve. After flying with IAC pilots for some considerable time I started thinking about numbers. After you requiered what, 3.5k+ pilots to fend of an attack by a 200 man alliance, does that mean you will be attacking ISS with about 20k pilots, to make sure you fight with numbers a little more to your liking? I really did enjoy the MOTD in the JVZ Security channel. IAC wins, MC Fails. Did you guys ever see the HanisDarkRoom video? Makes an great statement for what a fearsome PVP force you guys are. 300 vs 35. Incedently, the 35 picked up the loot. Suppose I better come down and start shooting you guys again, and guys, please smack in local. I always enjoy it more when I can read just how much the ship you just lost to me means to you. kass
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:50:00 - [72] Edited by: Mangold on 10/12/2006 23:50:39 Originally by: Redwolf This is why an ISS pilot ganged with Ushra'khan forces and engaged CVA ships persuing a legitimate war last night, outside of ISS space? Redwolf, keep this out of the forums and contact a senior member of the Ushra'Khan. We don't fly with ISS on missions against CVA.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:52:00 - [73] Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. Just like you vs RaGoon? ____________ The Priory Killboard
Excesse The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:58:00 - [74] WoO OoO oOo OoO oOO! Smack police, pull over!
PMolkenthin Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:00:00 - [75] Why can't everyone get along in 0.0?
Deadside	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:02:00 - [76] Edited by: Deadside on 11/12/2006 00:03:48 we do
Itzena Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:04:00 - [77] Originally by: PMolkenthin Why can't everyone get along in 0.0? Because if they did, you'd go bankrupt! -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be.
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb Gallente Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:04:00 - [78] You IAC guys really are bored...
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:05:00 - [79] Originally by: PMolkenthin Why can't everyone get along in 0.0? Dude... how the heck else would you get paid?? Blog
Yabar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:05:00 - [80] yea we do get along fine.. its all part of the game i guess - Priory - Wanna smack? I let my gunz do the talking
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:06:00 - [81] Originally by: maGz Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. Just like you vs RaGoon? pwnt. Anyway, good luck to ISS, I like IAC, but I like Count and ISS more, kick their ass! === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:09:00 - [82] Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb You IAC guys really are bored... I've heard it all started after an ISS guy stole Foofighters roids in KDF thats just a rumour though
Cabadrin Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:18:00 - [83] I wonder if ISS are going to pull a Titan out of nowhere now ... _______________________________________________
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:21:00 - [84] Now tell me that wasn't fun
Yabar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:21:00 - [85] Edited by: Yabar on 11/12/2006 00:22:28 Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb You IAC guys really are bored... I've heard it all started after an ISS guy stole Foofighters roids in KDF thats just a rumour though lol dunno..might be.. i know foo is pretty keen on his roids lol gl IAC - Priory - Wanna smack? I let my gunz do the talking
nickky01 Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:22:00 - [86] the south > the north -------------------------- this is my main :(
Mariko San Saints Surrounded	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:25:00 - [87] hmm lets see, i want to appear cool on the forums. right, ISS are not "cool".. OK. IAC are temporarily cool as they just lost an expensive ship in the tournament. OK Hmm now all the "cool" kids automatically reply with some rabble about "yeah, go kill em all" OK ahem "GO IAC, i hope that you destroy several more of their ships than they destroy of yours...erm...for the win"
Crovan Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:27:00 - [88] Guys! Guys! Calm down! This is all a big misunderstanding! It's common knowledge (or was at the time ) that our war on IAC was a cover war to keep an ally of ASCN from coming to their aid! No need to attack ISS for what BoB clearly did To my ex-corpmates in ISS, good luck. Originally by: Seleene Client - "You smash them." MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:33:00 - [89] Originally by: Kassad Congratulations on finally turning to the dark side IAC. Finally? Let me see, IAC friends are: Blood Of Incompetent, Priory, ASS, OGBP etc etc..
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:34:00 - [90] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 00:36:19 Originally by: N Solarz Originally by: Nyphur That's all it took, a little honesty. You wanted a war with ISS, all you had to do is throw the first punch, not goad us into attacking. ISS is a defensive alliance and would never attack first. I won't comment any more on this, if there's an announcement it will be from Count TaSessine. bah, you guys have been escalating for the past week! ISSN doubles its presence in zxic, 6 more towers go up, unnessacary locking of IAC members. lets looked at who provoed who, and i think that the clear answer is ISS provoked IAC. these opinions are my own and do not affect my corps or alliances views. You utter tard. The ISS blob in ZXIC (an outpost they built months before yours appeared next door) was there because they deployed another outpost this weekend. Thats all. And -on noes- they put up some towers in their own outpost system? Yeah, thats really a bad aggressive sign isnt it IAC: pathetic. There was zero provocation. You are scraping the very bottom of the barrel for excuses. Its called warmongering, nothing wrong with that, but call it for what it is, don't hide behind ridiculous excuses like 'you put up some POS in your own system'.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:40:00 - [91] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/12/2006 23:09:39 ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves. Defend yourself against WHAT? Some POS in their own outpost systems? Are you guys seriously this stupid, or is this an elaborate joke?
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:50:00 - [92] I'll be very suprised if IAC actually manages to take any territory from ISS. Of course, that may not be your intention? Either way, it'll be fun to watch. GL to both sides. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
smoogie	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:51:00 - [93] Edited by: smoogie on 11/12/2006 00:54:05 This whole war is Tyrell's fault. Anything they touch seems to die. They are truely the Cursed Coalition
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:11:00 - [94] Originally by: smoogie Edited by: smoogie on 11/12/2006 00:54:05 This whole war is Tyrell's fault. Anything they touch seems to die. They are truely the Cursed Coalition How cute.... your too scared to say it with your main! /me points to what enslaver said
Bacilius The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:16:00 - [95] Originally by: Kassad mewl snivel burp kass You always were an asshat Kassad and its good to see the quality pilots in SMK no longer have to suffer the humiliation of being associated with your bloated sense of self-worth now that you have left. Your hatred of IAC was obvious and well-documented long before you even left us, so this attempt at justification for leaving just shows your bitterness at knowing the split was mutual. I welcome you back to JZV as a target, just don't pretend to understand or have any involvement in the politics of this conflict. You truly are and always have been insignificant to us.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:20:00 - [96] It was only a matter of time once IAC started putting up more outposts that they would start looking on ISS's nextdoor avariciously. Good luck to both sides. One of you is going to need it! LOL
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:22:00 - [97] Originally by: Bacilius Originally by: Kassad mewl snivel burp kass You always were an asshat Kassad and its good to see the quality pilots in SMK no longer have to suffer the humiliation of being associated with your bloated sense of self-worth now that you have left. Your hatred of IAC was obvious and well-documented long before you even left us, so this attempt at justification for leaving just shows your bitterness at knowing the split was mutual. I welcome you back to JZV as a target, just don't pretend to understand or have any involvement in the politics of this conflict. You truly are and always have been insignificant to us. Your so important that i have no idea who you are
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:26:00 - [98] Originally by: Kassad Your so important that i have no idea who you are The truth of his words does not have to be backed by his position within the alliance. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Elmar Solderi Gallente N4S	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:38:00 - [99] Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:39:00 - [100] Originally by: Tenerhaddi lol IAC declairing war against ISS? man Prioiry have u under the thumb? Shame really only because ISS remained nutrual (spelling) and didnt help u in ur wars and now ur bitter lol So as CEO of Dark Skyes I Declair support for ISS and wish ISS luck in there fight! We now set IAC set -10 and Shroud of Darkness as they playing the part in this. Let this war stay fun but perfessional. Remember Good pilots dont need to smack. haha who are you and why do you think anyone cares? All i can say is delicious Oh and Enslaver come back when you manage to actually defeat an alliance cause so far your threats amount to nothing. No one cares what LV thinks because you're more bark than bite. Lol at -V- LV is really being a help for you Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:40:00 - [101] Haha, that's true Raem. Although pls re-read what I said and maybe you will understand the significance properly on the second reading. This is a thread about yourselves and ISS for people to comment about, try not to derail your own thread mmmkay Or if you fancy it, there is always Butter Dogs more intresting conspiracy thread
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:46:00 - [102] Originally by: Kassad Haha, that's true Raem. Although pls re-read what I said and maybe you will understand the significance properly on the second reading. This is a thread about yourselves and ISS for people to comment about, try not to derail your own thread mmmkay Or if you fancy it, there is always Butter Dogs more intresting conspiracy thread heh butterdog is well um special to say the least. There's a reason BoB came up with a fun nickname for him Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Jnr Rau The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:53:00 - [103] Edited by: Jnr Rau on 11/12/2006 01:57:48 Kassad = Asshat.. its a shorter list to name those that don't know it in the eve community. Friends help each other out, neutrality sits on the fence. ISS aren't either of these.... choo choo the mantrain is coming to an ISS system near you.
Kassad Gents with Big Sticks	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:01:00 - [104] Edited by: Kassad on 11/12/2006 02:02:00 You forgot to mention that I am a great asshat
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:04:00 - [105] Originally by: Jnr Rau Edited by: Jnr Rau on 11/12/2006 01:57:48 Kassad = Asshat.. its a shorter list to name those that don't know it in the eve community. Friends help each other out, neutrality sits on the fence. ISS aren't either of these.... choo choo the mantrain is coming to an ISS system near you. Frankly if you even manage to knock out one of their POS without losing your entire dread fleet, I'll be utterly shocked.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:06:00 - [106] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Jnr Rau Edited by: Jnr Rau on 11/12/2006 01:57:48 Kassad = Asshat.. its a shorter list to name those that don't know it in the eve community. Friends help each other out, neutrality sits on the fence. ISS aren't either of these.... choo choo the mantrain is coming to an ISS system near you. Frankly if you even manage to knock out one of their POS without losing your entire dread fleet, I'll be utterly shocked. haha what does iss have friends coming? Cause the issn is the most pathetic excuse for a pvp corp ever. They won't jump in a 40 man fleet cause we have 3 bs on the gate. ISSN have always been pathetic, they were pathetic when you in it, they are even more pathetic now. The fact you actually believe in them just makes you pathetic Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Apollyon X FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:08:00 - [107] Good Luck, lets make this conflict a bloody one
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:10:00 - [108] Originally by: Murukan haha what does iss have friends coming? Cause the issn is the most pathetic excuse for a pvp corp ever. They won't jump in a 40 man fleet cause we have 3 bs on the gate. ISSN have always been pathetic, they were pathetic when you in it, they are even more pathetic now. The fact you actually believe in them just makes you pathetic I'll tell you what I believe. I believe that ISS know very well how to kill dreads. I believe they are an alliance focused on outposts, and as such have considered POS assaults very carefully. I believe that if IAC deploy their dreads against well equipped deathstars they will lose them all. 9UY gave them plenty of practice, after all. Oh, but sorry, because you use recons to kill mining barges and PvE ravens, and snipe shuttles in your 200km apocs, that makes you uber at POS assaults.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:12:00 - [109] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan haha what does iss have friends coming? Cause the issn is the most pathetic excuse for a pvp corp ever. They won't jump in a 40 man fleet cause we have 3 bs on the gate. ISSN have always been pathetic, they were pathetic when you in it, they are even more pathetic now. The fact you actually believe in them just makes you pathetic I'll tell you what I believe. I believe that ISS know very well how to kill dreads. I believe they are an alliance focused on outposts, and as such have considered POS assaults very carefully. I believe that if IAC deploy their dreads against well equipped deathstars they will lose them all. 9UY gave them plenty of practice, after all. Oh, but sorry, because you use recons to kill mining barges and PvE ravens, and snipe shuttles in your 200km apocs, that makes you uber at POS assaults. yah iss is a force to be feared lol and all we do is snipe shuttles. Why don't you pull your head out of your ass. I know you're super sad cause if you take a look at our griefwatch board we have kicked your ass everywhich way past sunday. But when it all comes down to it, iss are cowards who suck at pvp. We prove that everyday and will continue to throughout this war. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:14:00 - [110] Originally by: Murukan yah iss is a force to be feared lol and all we do is snipe shuttles. Why don't you pull your head out of your ass. I know you're super sad cause if you take a look at our griefwatch board we have kicked your ass everywhich way past sunday. But when it all comes down to it, iss are cowards who suck at pvp. We prove that everyday and will continue to throughout this war. ISS are not a PvP alliance, that is true. But they have developed very effective strategies for killing dreads, and they have proven those to be effective already. So, bring it on.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:14:00 - [111] Originally by: Meltdown MC....... fancy coming to get pwned? Got ISK? Got Plan? Good! Will shoot! - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:14:00 - [112] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan yah iss is a force to be feared lol and all we do is snipe shuttles. Why don't you pull your head out of your ass. I know you're super sad cause if you take a look at our griefwatch board we have kicked your ass everywhich way past sunday. But when it all comes down to it, iss are cowards who suck at pvp. We prove that everyday and will continue to throughout this war. ISS are not a PvP alliance, that is true. But they have developed very effective strategies for killing dreads, and they have proven those to be effective already. So, bring it on. you show yourself as clueless once again. You have no idea what the war plans are so why don't you just shut your mouth and take your place on the sidelines like the cheerleader you are. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:16:00 - [113] Originally by: Murukan haha what does iss have friends coming? Cause the issn is the most pathetic excuse for a pvp corp ever. They won't jump in a 40 man fleet cause we have 3 bs on the gate. ISSN have always been pathetic, they were pathetic when you in it, they are even more pathetic now. The fact you actually believe in them just makes you pathetic ISSN is a specialized PVP force whose capabilities seem to be measured in K/D ratios. They exist to protect assets that may not be strictly their own. IAC Navy is a militia made out of people that each have a vested interest in the defense of our space as well as stations, as well as the expansion and prosperity of our claimed territories. This is why we will triumph. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:16:00 - [114] Originally by: Murukan you show yourself as clueless once again. You have no idea what the war plans are so why don't you just shut your mouth and take your place on the sidelines like the cheerleader you are. It seems you are the clueless one, if you think outposts can be placed at risk without Dreads being involved. If you're just going to carry on shooting at ISS traffic, well I guess its just business as usual for them.
Scorps one Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:18:00 - [115] Edited by: Scorps one on 11/12/2006 02:18:15 GF
Buxaroo Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:18:00 - [116] I like you IAC guys more and more everytime I hear about you. The South is getting hotter and hotter......and it's winter!
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:18:00 - [117] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan you show yourself as clueless once again. You have no idea what the war plans are so why don't you just shut your mouth and take your place on the sidelines like the cheerleader you are. It seems you are the clueless one, if you think outposts can be placed at risk without Dreads being involved. If you're just going to carry on shooting at ISS traffic, well I guess its just business as usual for them. once again cheerleaders belong on the side lines while the players actually duke it out. So butter keep running your mouth cause you don't have a clue what's going on Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:41:00 - [118] Cookies and cake in litom murukan, thats a good lad calm down and have a pint with me you and me murukan us carebears got to stick together! Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:49:00 - [119] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Cookies and cake in litom murukan, thats a good lad calm down and have a pint with me you and me murukan us carebears got to stick together! well i of course still <3 lilan Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:15:00 - [120] Originally by: Raem Civrie Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. Is that why you silently look on when Priory snipes down UNL ships in Doril corridor? Just curious. --
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:21:00 - [121] Originally by: Lavintol You sir, of all people, are quite full of it. You were there for 9UY, and we all know ISS couldnt get anything done on thier own. It was whatever merc force of the day you had helping that got anything done. SMASH put 3 POSes into reinforced and you guys couldnt get the job finished. ISSN by itself cant get anything done, they require MC or another merc to accomplish anything. We stood our ground in 9UY until the MC got involved and the numbers got plain silly. You, sir, are ALSO full of it. How soon bit part players forget. The follow up to the SMASH POS work was the POS siege where ISS+UK+friends lost a dread to disconnects. Followed by a node crash, and the GM Mandated Ceasefire with hundreds of allied ships in local. ISS+UK+friends killed numerous capital ships that got petitioned back into the game using the excuse of 'lag'. Indeed, one attack of yours involved a dread dying and the node crashing while a second was in structure and the three other dread pilots filling their pants waiting on their turn to try to warp off in pods. The war was stalemated by the state of the servers .. but the tactics and organization of BOTH sides were sound ... and a lot of fun ... it needed overwhelming force to bring it to a conclusion through the node crashes, which MC provided. They brought in sufficient Dreads to pursue one POS siege through two node drops ... and then it was all over. ISSN definitely can't get the job done ALONE. They don't need to. :lol: They just need to do what they do .. provide the disciplined core of an effective support and capital fleet while the numbers of 'reservists' come along to provide the numbers and FIREPOWER and the FUN!!! Who knows .. they may hire some experienced help. Myn
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:23:00 - [122] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Raem Civrie Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. Is that why you silently look on when Priory snipes down UNL ships in Doril corridor? Just curious. LOL .. they don't silently look on .. they actively provide intel. If Priory are ahead of you and IAC are in local, be sure they know you are coming and when. Myn
Temi Temi Inc	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:31:00 - [123] Edited by: Temi on 11/12/2006 03:32:57 Originally by: Kassad Obviously the meaning of the word neutral escapes you. Yes, they might have provided a safe haven for an offensive force to attack you, but isn't the counterpart to that, that they also provide a safe haven for your pilots on their attacks on other ISS neighbours. lets quote the dictionary shall we? Quote: 1. not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others: a neutral nation during World War II. 2. not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy: The arbitrator was absolutely neutral. yeah, definately neutrality includes allowing one faction to use your space as a staging area to attack your neighboures! Spelling errors ahoy..
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:34:00 - [124] Edited by: Murukan on 11/12/2006 03:34:17 Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Raem Civrie Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. Is that why you silently look on when Priory snipes down UNL ships in Doril corridor? Just curious. IAC aren't involved between us and UNL. I don't see UNL ever complaining about us shooting them, in fact unlike you stupid northern gits they don't feel the need to nap everything. I know the concept of pvp is a scary prospect for your norhtern nap monkeys but in the south we like as little blue as possible. Oh i forgot to add, lol RAZOR hahaha you ***** useless tards, go mine some more Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
JaredC01 Obliteration Unlimited R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:36:00 - [125] Originally by: Lavintol Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Murukan haha what does iss have friends coming? Cause the issn is the most pathetic excuse for a pvp corp ever. They won't jump in a 40 man fleet cause we have 3 bs on the gate. ISSN have always been pathetic, they were pathetic when you in it, they are even more pathetic now. The fact you actually believe in them just makes you pathetic I'll tell you what I believe. I believe that ISS know very well how to kill dreads. I believe they are an alliance focused on outposts, and as such have considered POS assaults very carefully. I believe that if IAC deploy their dreads against well equipped deathstars they will lose them all. 9UY gave them plenty of practice, after all. Oh, but sorry, because you use recons to kill mining barges and PvE ravens, and snipe shuttles in your 200km apocs, that makes you uber at POS assaults. You sir, of all people, are quite full of it. You were there for 9UY, and we all know ISS couldnt get anything done on thier own. It was whatever merc force of the day you had helping that got anything done. SMASH put 3 POSes into reinforced and you guys couldnt get the job finished. ISSN by itself cant get anything done, they require MC or another merc to accomplish anything. We stood our ground in 9UY until the MC got involved and the numbers got plain silly. ISSN = MC Support Fleet <-- Spoken from an ex-ISSN Captain's standpoint... Nice job IAC, wish I could have been there to see it. Give them hell guys. [Insert ISS Diplomat Complaint/Rant Here] [Insert Butter Dog's Personal Views Here] Yarrr. --------------------
Georgik Sojik Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:37:00 - [126] Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:41:00 - [127] Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win The Bottleshop and The Distillery. Fixed it for you. Myn
Vicious Malicious Minmatar Boon-a-ma-i	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:42:00 - [128] mmm, the threats of ISS bringing in the new and underdeveloped "MC", (the quotes are there because what exists now is hardly a shadow of what Mercenary Coalition was), im sure the local groups are quaking in thier boots, and the people who have wanted the opportunity to slap down MC and ISS are drooling at the thought of having them both on the same platter. Go get em IAC
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:43:00 - [129] Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
Lister Black The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:44:00 - [130] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. I hope you're telling the truth :P. POS wars are FTL, Fleet fights like today's are FTW. GF to all involved! ---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Lister Black Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. I hope you're telling the truth :P. POS wars are FTL, Fleet fights like today's are FTW. GF to all involved! I said "Lets Dance" not lets all lag to death in horrible horrible pos wars. more shoostings!
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:46:00 - [132] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win The Bottleshop and The Distillery. Fixed it for you. Myn And i thought we was friends
Lister Black The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:51:00 - [133] Originally by: DHB FooFighter more shoostings! Shoostings! \o/ ---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:51:00 - [134] Originally by: Murukan IAC aren't involved between us and UNL. Thank you for clarifying the issue of eternal loyalty and other forget-me-nots for IAC, I'm sure Raem is grateful for your eloquent assistance. --
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:52:00 - [135] Originally by: Vicious Malicious mmm, the threats of ISS bringing in the new and underdeveloped "MC", (the quotes are there because what exists now is hardly a shadow of what Mercenary Coalition was), im sure the local groups are quaking in thier boots, and the people who have wanted the opportunity to slap down MC and ISS are drooling at the thought of having them both on the same platter. Go get em IAC They don't need to wait for us to help ISS to get involved. We announce where we are fighting every week or two on the forums. At other times you can find us in the J8-G8K constellation in Period Basis. Hope to see you and all the others soon! xxx ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:54:00 - [136] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Murukan IAC aren't involved between us and UNL. Thank you for clarifying the issue of eternal loyalty and other forget-me-nots for IAC, I'm sure Raem is grateful for your eloquent assistance. IAC and UNL have a cordial agreement for us to not interfere with their dealings in Immensia. They know teh deal with Priory and if they had wanted a NAP they would have gotten it. Please keep all specualtion out of here. thanks
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:55:00 - [137] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Murukan IAC aren't involved between us and UNL. Thank you for clarifying the issue of eternal loyalty and other forget-me-nots for IAC, I'm sure Raem is grateful for your eloquent assistance. uhh you're clearly not involved in the situation and don't know ** all about what you're talking about. UNL and maelstrom shoot each other too and both are blue to iac. IAC has a lot of naps (one reason we formed our own alliance, although they can't put a dent in the number you faeries have) you expect them to police all their friends? They have a core of alliances and corps that they consider deep blues, you don't know who they are so off Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 03:58:00 - [138] taking the ISS stations would mean i would have no one to shoost.... surely that defeats the object of it all
Steiner Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:04:00 - [139] ---
IntegralHellsing Gallente The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:05:00 - [140] So you whine that someone snipes shuttles with apoc from 200km? lol ISS won't engage a 2 cruiser and 1 BC gang on their backyard until they could gather about 15~20 people. (in KDF, ZXIC) Hell, i was in KDF really bored because you guys wouldn't engage us when there are about 12 ISS/ISS Friendlies, and just keeps on smacking. And then you decide to lay a trap at KDF gate in ZXIC with a ferox and a raven. Well that's ok. S* happens, but we still popped the ferox so fast and the raven had to jump to avoid being ganked. Oh, and a thorax with WCS as well. WOW! and you complain that other people are using a 'lowly tactic' or 'has no honour' crap. And you ask for help when you are being ganked, then tells people to leave when situation is a bit more managable. I can go on and complain about ISS for million pages. You claim political neutrality while letting MC prepare a strike from your station, you say that i am in a corp which is neutral to you, and then goes on to try gank my poor Incursus, which fails, then smacks in local that I have no balls and that I won't engage a 10~15 men blob in my frigate. :P Oh, and you go to other people's space and rat/complex * without permission. Hell, no wonder why even Huzzah kicked you out of HF space. You guys went into HF space while it still existed, then ratted/complex ***d without a single permission, and when repeatedly told to leave, you whined. TBH, I can guess the reasons for IAC attacking ISS as of today. Because of ISS helping their enemy while ISS claims political neutrality, having no manners and going to places wherever they please, asking for help then telling IAC to go back because now they are napped with the hostile, etc etc. I wish a VERY good hunting to IAC. And to ISS, please don't smack in local. It just degrades your alliance which is a degenerate idiots anyway. ------------------------------
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:06:00 - [141] Originally by: Lister Black Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. I hope you're telling the truth :P. POS wars are FTL, Fleet fights like today's are FTW. GF to all involved! I am glad someone else is enjoying it! A load of shoosting, clearing out the gun barrels and getting all grudges out in the open are probably the best for ISS and IAC relations since we've both ever been neighbours. There have been differences between our alliances in the very recent past, which has been unable to be resolved because ISS and IAC pilots simply did not will it to be so. This has been obvious when dealing with ISS leadership. They have struggled with their member corps, as have we. To Mynas, I read your post that you as an ISSN pilot wanted to assist IAC in the MC contract. I believe you absolutely and I thank you for having the urge to stand up, do what was right and fight with us. I know that many other ISS pilots wanted to get involved but 'the charter' and the management call got in the way. shrug ... such is life. In regards to IAC's choice of wingmen, when your existince is on the line, it would have been stupid to turn away any assistance and to this day we thank them. In regards to UNL/SOD, IAC makes no claim nor request of any friendly alliance/corp to set standings torwards eachother. We do ask that they refrain from engaging friendlies anyone in IAC sovereign space. The Doril pipe has NEVER EVER been claimed by IAC. It has always been controlled by the people that generally live in the NPC stations. We respect each of them having their own conflicts and agendas and merely stay out of it. To clarify, UNL didn't help IAC in the McFIXIA engagement, but have always been long-time treasured neutrals operating from our stations and an invaluable ally in IAC's operations in Immensea. To Kassad, get back in your hole, you're the epitome of scum. Flying in under the cover of MC's siege in a recon ship, only to gank your ex-alliance mates is purely lame.
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:08:00 - [142] Originally by: DHB FooFighter IAC and UNL have a cordial agreement for us to not interfere with their dealings in Immensia. True. Originally by: DHB FooFighter They know teh deal with Priory True. They also have had their own quite friendly dialogue with Priory about standings which ended where it is now, and in a rare pearl of truth sparkling between his pile of ** of a speech, Murukan is right, they aren't complaining. Originally by:** DHB FooFighter and if they had wanted a NAP they would have gotten it. False. Ask Tyrrax at your leisure, provided he keeps his evemails. I don't deal in speculations, it's not my business. However, if you guys want to stick to the story of being the white knight in shining armor, it helps to keep your facts straight, and that's the only thing I'm concerned about in this thread. I pointed out what I wanted, got some amusing and some serious replies, it's probably time to adjourn. Thank you for being the polite one. --
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:13:00 - [143] Theram back to your carebear noobzone up north you don't have any idea what's going on. Doril is not iac space, nor is anywhere in curse. We're more of an owner of the doril pipe than any other entity. IAC does not dictate our policy nor do they want to. I know not being a bum slave is a hard concept since you guys have been taking it hard by d2 for quite awhile and enjoying every second of it. But down in the south we rule ourselves Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:15:00 - [144] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Raem Civrie Our eternal loyalty and allegiance goes out to those who have aided us in the past. There is actually a whole list of people who we owe everything to for extending their help during a crisis, and we will honor that. Is that why you silently look on when Priory snipes down UNL ships in Doril corridor? Just curious. LOL .. they don't silently look on .. they actively provide intel. If Priory are ahead of you and IAC are in local, be sure they know you are coming and when. Myn You sir are absolutely wrong. We live in the south. We are friends with people whom we respect. Maelstrom alliance fight UNL yet we are hostile to LV whom Maelstrom is friends to. We are friends with the Priory because to be honest they are honorable pilots and great pvp'ers. If they choose to be hostile to one of our allies we stay out of it. We do not provide intel. We enjoy playing EVE in such a mannor that it is fun every time we log in. ISS proved to be untrustworthy and there has been an uneasy standing with them for some time. N SX and Tyrrax have held off long enough and the time to take action in our interest has come to pass. If you want to put a spin on the relationships IAC has with its allies then I suggest you get your ship, take up your arms, and put your money where your mouth is and stop being an armchair analyst. IAC had no intentions of taking ISS outposts. It is not in our best interest to put resources into something we do not need. There is nothing tactical about owning 2 outposts we already have in more strategic areas. If ISS and their minion, specifically butter dog and his fans, want to put some poor mouth spin on the situation and pain IAC as bullies then so be it. However, if ISS and LV push us into a corner be warned the south will be on fire. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Therem Harth DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:30:00 - [145] Originally by: Murukan Theram back to your carebear noobzone up north you don't have any idea what's going on. Doril is not iac space, nor is anywhere in curse. We're more of an owner of the doril pipe than any other entity. IAC does not dictate our policy nor do they want to. I know not being a bum slave is a hard concept since you guys have been taking it hard by d2 for quite awhile and enjoying every second of it. But down in the south we rule ourselves Your attempts to insult are most laughable. You hardly know what you are speaking about and even who I am, while I have been close enough to most of your corp snipers in Doril pipe to put sapper charges in the exhausts, and more. Your IAC friends might be wrong in places but at least they know how to behave. You could claim you rule something if you could at least rule your own tongue, now go and wash your mouth with soap :) goodbye, my little Murukan --
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:31:00 - [146] soap tastes nasty i prefer to wash my mouth with beer Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Doppleganger Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:35:00 - [147] Originally by: Kaylana Syi However, if ISS and LV push us into a corner be warned the south will be on fire. Wait the south isn't on fire now? /me runs off to get popcorn
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:42:00 - [148] Originally by: Doppleganger Originally by: Kaylana Syi However, if ISS and LV push us into a corner be warned the south will be on fire. Wait the south isn't on fire now? /me runs off to get popcorn You haven't seen anything yet. Tyrrax is mad.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 04:49:00 - [149] Originally by: BlackHorizon Originally by: Doppleganger Originally by: Kaylana Syi However, if ISS and LV push us into a corner be warned the south will be on fire. Wait the south isn't on fire now? /me runs off to get popcorn You haven't seen anything yet. Tyrrax is mad. And... I am his diplomat! rofle Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:01:00 - [150] \0/ my carebear brother has finally turned into a pvp aggressor.... sniff .... Im so proud The more death the better, hope everyone dies on both sides, it will be more fun and I can loot all your cans. WildCat
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:09:00 - [151] Originally by: Kaylana Syi If you want to put a spin on the relationships IAC has with its allies then I suggest you get your ship, take up your arms, and put your money where your mouth is and stop being an armchair analyst. ROFL .. mate, I'm in your base killing your doods! .. er .. well, technically, I'm cloaked OFF your base counting your doods, but you know what I mean. Myn
Maria Ravenwind Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:17:00 - [152] Now I'm speaking from a Grunt Pilot's point of view, as that is what I am! First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations? Personally I hate POS wars, and we all know that ISS is capable of spamming mad POS all over the place. I think the majority of our pilots have wanted this to happen simply for the rush of the fight, not the aquirement of more outposts. It's all about the PEW-PEW, not the P--__-_-E--EW-_P-WWW--E (<--- that was supposed to be a text-rendering of lag). So lets fight it out. We all need to relieve the tensions that have built up over the past few months. Maybe we can become close friends with ISS after this conflict clears. Honestly, with how close we are in territory terms, it'd be a very good idea for both of us to be at least reasonable friends again. As for now I only hope for 2 things: 1) That we keep the Dreads-beating-the-POSes-up-and-then-putting-more-POSes-up stays out of it 2) That ISS is able to keep the mercs out of it and fight for themselves. Not to speak negatively about ISS, but many pilots in ISS talk about themselves being an Industrial Alliance that doesn't interest in PvP conflicts too much. Well, what did IAC start out as? That's right, industrial. We still are, but now we like to fight too! So, enough talk. I'm personally happy to see this come to fruition. It means I have a good excuse to fly next to the PRI guys!
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:26:00 - [153] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Meltdown MC....... fancy coming to get pwned? Got ISK? Got Plan? Good! Will shoot! qft. i love waaga. bawk! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:33:00 - [154] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 11/12/2006 05:15:17 ISS you're now -10 Lets Dance. EDIT for spelling cause Frools called me a noob i nominate this as the worst kept secret in eve :D knowledge is power.... guard it well
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:33:00 - [155] Edited by: Sgt Napalm on 11/12/2006 05:37:16 The gloves are off and I'm taking this personal. Prepare to die. Good to see you again Mynas.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:34:00 - [156] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. dude, are you serious? every iac ive seen today is shouting about how they are going to take the iss stations. I have ways of hearing things. pretty funny misdirection tho. still, maybe you will succeed. respect if you do. bawk and gl to both sides, will be watching these forums for updates Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Lister Black The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 05:51:00 - [157] Originally by: n sx Originally by: Lister Black Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. I hope you're telling the truth :P. POS wars are FTL, Fleet fights like today's are FTW. GF to all involved! I am glad someone else is enjoying it! A load of shoosting, clearing out the gun barrels and getting all grudges out in the open are probably the best for ISS and IAC relations since we've both ever been neighbours. From a political perspective I'm sad we're going to war because blah, blah, blah. From a personal perspective, this is the kind of things I joined EVE for. It's a game, I'm here to have fun, and I have fun by shoosting others. It might be a simple point of view, but complicated things bum me out. IAC leadership has said they don't want ISS outposts. Maybe, they're lying, but I hope they're not. Territorial disputes (and, by transition, POS wars) are complicated and, from my perspective, not fun. If all goes well, we'll both emerge stronger out of this and perhaps even friends once again. So, once again, good luck and good fight to both sides. P.S.: I really do hope this war ends soon, you guys have great prices :D. ---------------------------- "Unshrink you?! Well that would require some sort of a REbigulator, which is a concept so ridiculous it makes me want to laugh out loud and chortle..." -Prof.Frink
Halafian The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:08:00 - [158] Originally by: Maria Ravenwind First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations? Originally by: Georgik Sojik May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:17:00 - [159] Originally by: Halafian Originally by: Maria Ravenwind First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations? Originally by: Georgik Sojik May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. If people want tinfoilery... I want ISS Tycho because I want it to be named The Nest Comedy Club After it's open for business we will have Stavros and Oveur do standup... do some karaoke... and drink with our ISS business partners who didn't want to openly sell their defunkt outposts so they asked us to go to war to throw shareholders off the scent. We are all here to have a good time. See you at the comedy show. I'll be wearing 1400 tech IIs. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:21:00 - [160] Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 11/12/2006 06:22:35 For all you greedy forumy types. Here is some stats from the first coupla hours in the fighting in ZXIC Kills: BS: 25 elite BC: 1 BC: 9 Cruisers: 20 HAC: 2 Frigs: 47 losses: BS: 3 (domi, domi, scorp) << short range 4tl! crazy bastards :P BC: 4 Cruisers: 10 Frigs: 45 This is from IAC's private killboard so if ISS has some more BS losses then please feel free to send them to me and I will post them.
Templer Relleg Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:34:00 - [161] Woot. Im SO MUCH looking forward to shoosting right next door, and even in our backyard. Maybe we will even own 4 stations, within soonÖ
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:47:00 - [162] Originally by: Templer Relleg Woot. Im SO MUCH looking forward to shoosting right next door, and even in our backyard. Maybe we will even own 4 stations, within soonÖ you forget consido 16 jumps over... Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
xh'duality Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 06:48:00 - [163] What it looked like after the first Big engadement. ss --------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON
Maria Ravenwind Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 07:24:00 - [164] Originally by: Halafian Originally by: Maria Ravenwind First off, who said anything (in a serious manner) about taking the local ISS stations? Originally by: Georgik Sojik May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Originally by: DHB FooFighter Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. Holy Moses man, good job reading my original post. Note the part about "In a serious manner". Has there been a post officially saying we will? No. We will? Who knows? I sure as hell don't. But at this point this is not what this conflict is about.
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.11 07:52:00 - [165] Good Huntimg IAC --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee My Opinions pretty much represent my corp. Boo fkin hoo.
Packtu'sa Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:17:00 - [166] Enough with this talk of MC basing from ISS stations to siege IAC. Not only does the current charter resolve such issues, but had, say, Ushra'Khan (before constructing Unity Station) used ISS Consido to attack CVA's Inflatable House station, how would that be any different? Neither MC, FIX, or IAC were considered hostile by ISS, and so ISS didn't take a side. How is that not neutrality? If we had taken sides and helped IAC, that would be breaking neutrality. Neutrality and apoliticism is not about helping everybody, it's about not getting involved. Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC]
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:39:00 - [167] Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact. - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:48:00 - [168] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact. You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations... Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen ____________ The Priory Killboard
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:57:00 - [169] Originally by: maGz You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations... The intention has been stated. I'll believe it when I see it tho. Quote: Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen Oh, I see. Should I be expecting a contract offer to hit ISS soon then? - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 09:01:00 - [170] Originally by: maGz Originally by: Seleene Originally by: The Enslaver I get the feeling that one side is soon to find out that this won't be as easy as they initially thought. I just wanted to point out the only post in this thread that is 100% fact. You presume that there's more than just general pew pew involved in this conflict. I've looked hard but have yet to find any official statements by IAC leadership stating that they are going to take any stations... Don't get me wrong - I welcome MC into this conflict. We're quite a few who hoped for just that thing to happen MC are still on Contract remember, so they can't technically do anything either way until said contract is up So im gonna go out on a limb here and say that we won't see the MC for at least a week. Assuming of course that ISS feel the need to contact them. Should proove to be an interesting week.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 09:02:00 - [171] Originally by: Seleene Oh, I see. Should I be expecting a contract offer to hit ISS soon then? Nah I'm poor ____________ The Priory Killboard
Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 09:13:00 - [172] Stop buying those manlove magazines, you get brainrot from those. <3 -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 09:16:00 - [173] Originally by: Caleb Paine Stop buying those manlove magazines, you get brainrot from those. <3 But but no pictures to post on local then... <3 ____________ The Priory Killboard
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 09:53:00 - [174] Originally by: maGz But but no pictures to post on local then... <3 Choo Choo!
James Duar Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:03:00 - [175] Someone said it much earlier but yeah: South >> North right now. I wonder how many more wars need to start before the map shows conflict markers everywhere
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:13:00 - [176] everyone seems to forget that MC is on a retainer to ISS. So as soon as the pressure starts to get a little too much MC will join. Also selene stop all the talk about IAC hiring MC to strike ISS. even if someone felt the urge to, and had the isk to, i doubt they could come up with a sufficient plan that wouldnt get a response of "sorry no plan no war, besides we have goons to kill, the plan of undocking works so well with them" Also didnt an MC or BOB member admit the war between MC and RAGOONS was a war done for BOB. due to it not being a paid war, and also the fact that between BOB and MC alot of ppl probably have shares, stopping any big ISS assault would come first, over the harrassment of RAGOONS REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:38:00 - [177] Edited by: Seleene on 11/12/2006 10:40:29 Rich, I'm surprised you would even bother with all of this but IÆll reply because IÆve flown with you and respect your abilities in that regard. >3 Originally by: RichThugster everyone seems to forget that MC is on a retainer to ISS. Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS. Quote: So as soon as the pressure starts to get a little too much MC will join. MC will get involved when my wallet flashes. Quote: Also selene stop all the talk about IAC hiring MC to strike ISS. Why? IAC isn't poor. It seems to me though that the option isn't being explored due to personal issues or the perceived bias of MC on this issue. Quote: even if someone felt the urge to, and had the isk to, i doubt they could come up with a sufficient plan that wouldnt get a response of "sorry no plan no war, besides we have goons to kill, the plan of undocking works so well with them" Not sure what you mean about the 'undocking' comment. As for the rest, the plan would be pretty easy. This isn't BoB / ASCN / D2, etc... It's IAC and ISS, two medium sized alliances in specific areas of space. Quote: Also didnt an MC or BOB member admit the war between MC and RAGOONS was a war done for BOB. If they did then they are talking out of their ass. BoB has absolutely nothing to do with our current contract. I find it amazing that people would think BoB is even involved in this conflict with the mile-long list of others who have a vested interest in the fate of Scalding Pass and the surrounding area. Quote: due to it not being a paid war and also the fact that between BOB and MC alot of ppl probably have shares, stopping any big ISS assault would come first, over the harrassment of RAGOONS Oh, we're certainly getting paid, m8. As for the ISS shareholder question, that's a better one. Just because IAC and your alliance has chosen to walk down a certain path with regard to ISS does not mean that the rest of EVE will rally behind you. It will most likely have the opposite effect, with ISS flexing its financial muscles and calling in friends of their own. Maybe that's what you guys want: a big fight. Well, I'm sure you'll get it. I do wonder how much of this is just pointless saber-rattling for the sake of a little 'pew-pew' and how much is serious intent to take the ISS stations. If it's mainly the former, I think everyone will have a good time for a while and all will be well. If it's the later, I think the fun factor is going to die very quickly because then it becomes a rather serious matter for several hundred (thousand?) ISS shareholders. - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
semp Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:10:00 - [178] Edited by: semp on 11/12/2006 11:17:07 So its IAC v ISS. No standings changes required for Tyrell, and we will as always prosecute IAC targets where and when we find them. Good luck ISS.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:23:00 - [179] Ye gods, people. Can we just stop the smack. I know I don't personally hate any IAC, let's just shoot each other. Oh and please please PLEASE let this keep going for at least 2 weeks. I get to fly my thanatos in 11 days and I want to christen it properly --------------------------------------------------------------------
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:24:00 - [180] IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. http://eve.klaki.net/
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:31:00 - [181] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. Word to the wise: don't say that until AFTER you've taken the outposts. You're likely to see some of our shareholders enter the fray if you so much as look at those outposts hungrily. --------------------------------------------------------------------
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:34:00 - [182] Christmas pew-pew \o/ Lets make this one fun, clear the air and get on with our future. ______________________________________
Narusegawa Naru Gallente The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:40:00 - [183] I join IAC and within a few hours I'm told we are at war with ISS (well -10 standing anyway). Definately a shock to me as I'm from the northern regions and this is my first time in the south. I wanted some PvP experience and it looks like I'm gonna get it. However in the light of good spirit I wish both our sides good luck in this conflict. --
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:47:00 - [184] One little seed sown 8 months ago, now blossoming into a beautiful flower. Just sad that the one who planted the seed did not survive long enough to harvest the fruits of their labor. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:56:00 - [185] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 11/12/2006 10:40:29 Rich, I'm surprised you would even bother with all of this but IÆll reply because IÆve flown with you and respect your abilities in that regard. >3 i yours too, hence why i replied rather than saying "STFU NEWB" <3 Quote: Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS. Now i know either on the MC forums/eve-o forums i have seen either count or a senior member of MC say that MC is on a retainer. I realise MC may care little about who they have to shoot, they shoot who they are paid to, but i dont honestly believe any more ISS eggwarming work will go the way of MC if the MC accepted a contract against ISS. Quote: MC will get involved when my wallet flashes. like a Big Blue flash? With all the 'fighting' talk mynas has been doing id be surprised if there wasnt already a thread on the MC forums asking to come fight down here after the RAGOON war. Would you care to comment on that? Quote: Why? IAC isn't poor.... i explained above about how i believe (IMHO) ISS wouldnt employ MC for eggwarming, if MC accepted a contract against them. I believe LV have protected a number of eggwarmings and for the right price would happily protect the egg with much greater numbers than MC could produce. Indeed IAC arent poor, hearing about the plethora of BPOs they have, damm (WTB CHEAP VAGABOND :P )However throughout pretty much every official post by IAC they have said they are currently not interested in taking stations. for them to jump into ISS space, whilst their morale still high and attempt to take stations would be foolish and a mistake. beofre tinfoil goes on this is not me saying IAC intends to wear them down. TBH i know nothing other than the standings being reset. Due to the above, id assume currently IAC has no need/use or want of MC Quote: Not sure what you mean about the 'undocking' comment. As for the rest, the plan would be pretty easy. This isn't BoB / ASCN / D2, etc... It's IAC and ISS, two medium sized alliances in specific areas of space. I was trying to say the MC would accept "undocking" as a plan for fighting RAGOONs, and that there wouldnt be a decent enough plan in place to fight ISS. Trying to make a point that MC would reject a contract against ISS. Of course i may be totally wrong, however again imho, i feel a contract wouldnt be taken. REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:56:00 - [186] Quote: If they did then they are talking out of their ass. BoB has absolutely nothing to do with our current contract. I find it amazing that people would think BoB is even involved in this conflict with the mile-long list of others who have a vested interest in the fate of Scalding Pass and the surrounding area. yeah TBH i found it a little odd, perhaps if you went to war with celes, then it would be slightly understandable. Quote: As for the ISS shareholder question, that's a better one. Just because IAC and your alliance has chosen to walk down a certain path with regard to ISS does not mean that the rest of EVE will rally behind you. It will most likely have the opposite effect, with ISS flexing its financial muscles and calling in friends of their own. i think you must have missed my point, because i know witht he amount of isk some shareholders have tied up, they stand to loose a lot of isk. Fortunately for MC and other Mercs, these ppl with lots of loose have lots of spare cash. By no means did i believe we would get help for "fighting the good fight" or anything. Quote: Maybe that's what you guys want: a big fight. Well, I'm sure you'll get it. I do wonder how much of this is just pointless saber-rattling for the sake of a little 'pew-pew' and how much is serious intent to take the ISS stations. If it's mainly the former, I think everyone will have a good time for a while and all will be well. If it's the later, I think the fun factor is going to die very quickly because then it becomes a rather serious matter for several hundred (thousand?) ISS shareholders. tbh have to see how it goes. Whilst station ping-pong is sad and frustrating, taking about 72bil isks worth of assets from pretty much everyone in game would be quite an interesting feat. Whilst unlikely, i do not believe its un-achievable REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:59:00 - [187] Originally by: JaredC01 ISSN = MC Support Fleet <-- Spoken from an ex-ISSN Captain's standpoint... Nice job IAC, wish I could have been there to see it. Give them hell guys. [Insert ISS Diplomat Complaint/Rant Here] [Insert Butter Dog's Personal Views Here] Yarrr. Perhaps you could help them with your amazing auto-cannon geddon?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:02:00 - [188] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 12:03:22 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. I'm going to tell you hear and now: you couldn't take them even if you wanted to. If you tried, you'd lose all your dreads. IAC should be ashamed of their utter lack of balls. You lie about your reasons for war, and now you shy away from anything remotely challenging. Please do atttempt to take the outposts. Go right ahead. I'll gain much satisfaction reading all your dread killmails on the ISS board. I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there.
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:06:00 - [189] Edited by: gusta on 11/12/2006 12:06:51 Originally by: Butter Dog I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there. surly you havnt flown with them in a while then butter.
Jennie Marlboro No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:06:00 - [190] Originally by: Vensa Heckler Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ... Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there? Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:09:00 - [191] Originally by: Jennie Marlboro Originally by: Vensa Heckler Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ... Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there? Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right? I think you will find what he means is IAC told their members to move stuff out of ISS stations not ISS told IAC to remove their stuff
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:10:00 - [192] Originally by: Jennie Marlboro Originally by: Vensa Heckler Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ... Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there? Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right? You missed the point Jennie .. it was IAC who instructed their own people to evacuate from ISS stations prior to IAC launching their attack. Myn
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:15:00 - [193] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Jennie Marlboro Originally by: Vensa Heckler Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ... Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there? Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right? You missed the point Jennie .. it was IAC who instructed their own people to evacuate from ISS stations prior to IAC launching their attack. Myn They instructed the removal of assets from iss stns becuase they heard rumors that iss was going to reset iac standings.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:15:00 - [194] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 11/12/2006 06:22:35 For all you greedy forumy types. Here is some stats from the first coupla hours in the fighting in ZXIC Kills: BS: 25 elite BC: 1 BC: 9 Cruisers: 20 HAC: 2 Frigs: 47 losses: BS: 3 (domi, domi, scorp) << short range 4tl! crazy bastards :P BC: 4 Cruisers: 10 Frigs: 45 This is from IAC's private killboard so if ISS has some more BS losses then please feel free to send them to me and I will post them. Real IAC losses from the ISS board for the few hours you refer to are: Assault Ships: 20 T1 frigates: 39 Interdictor: 2 BC: 4 Stealth Bomber: 2 Battleship: 5 Cruiser: 13 Interceptors: 15 Covert Ops: 1 The high number of T2 frigate losses are representative of the fact you send a T2 frigate fleet into ZX which was completely slaughtered, getting about 3 kills.
Adril Alatar Minmatar No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:16:00 - [195] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 12:03:22 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. I'm going to tell you hear and now: you couldn't take them even if you wanted to. If you tried, you'd lose all your dreads. IAC should be ashamed of their utter lack of balls. You lie about your reasons for war, and now you shy away from anything remotely challenging. Please do atttempt to take the outposts. Go right ahead. I'll gain much satisfaction reading all your dread killmails on the ISS board. I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there. you are funny, but you have no clue....
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:17:00 - [196] Originally by: gusta They instructed the removal of assets from iss stns becuase they heard rumors that iss was going to reset iac standings. lol! You guys are clutching desperately at straws here. Count made a post expressing a desire for continued 'blue' relations, so how you arrive at that conclusion is beyond me. You really must try harder on this smear campaign, its failing miserably so far.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:18:00 - [197] Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 12:03:22 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. I'm going to tell you hear and now: you couldn't take them even if you wanted to. If you tried, you'd lose all your dreads. IAC should be ashamed of their utter lack of balls. You lie about your reasons for war, and now you shy away from anything remotely challenging. Please do atttempt to take the outposts. Go right ahead. I'll gain much satisfaction reading all your dread killmails on the ISS board. I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there. you are funny, but you have no clue.... Very easy to type those few words, but it means nothing. I've outlined my view and the reasons for it. If you wish to counter that with reasoned argument, go right ahead. If all you can do is resort to vague insults or one-liners... well we know who wins the debate. And its not you.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:20:00 - [198] Originally by: RichThugster Quote: Friendly relations does not equal 'retainer'. A retainer would indicate some sort of regular payment or standing profitable agreement, neither of which MC has with ISS. Now i know either on the MC forums/eve-o forums i have seen either count or a senior member of MC say that MC is on a retainer. I talk to Count a lot and I respect what he and ISS have tried to do. Maybe you did see something to that effect somewhere, but no such agreement exists as far as myself or the other MC CEOs know. Quote: I realise MC may care little about who they have to shoot, they shoot who they are paid to, but i dont honestly believe any more ISS eggwarming work will go the way of MC if the MC accepted a contract against ISS. TBH, egg-warming sucks. Why we've never been hired to KILL an egg is beyond me. Quote: With all the 'fighting' talk mynas has been doing id be surprised if there wasnt already a thread on the MC forums asking to come fight down here after the RAGOON war. Would you care to comment on that? There wasn't a thread about it this morning when I left for work, but I'm sure there will be soon. Quote: Trying to make a point that MC would reject a contract against ISS. Of course i may be totally wrong, however again imho, i feel a contract wouldnt be taken. TBH, I think that IAC is stirring the pot for rather dubious reasons, but that's my personal POV. It wouldn't stop me from taking their money tho. Quote: Whilst station ping-pong is sad and frustrating, taking about 72bil isks worth of assets from pretty much everyone in game would be quite an interesting feat. Whilst unlikely, i do not believe its un-achievable Agreed. Right now it's obvious that if ISS feels sufficiently threatened that they probably have the ISK reserves and the political connections to secure MC and any number of other defenders. On the other hand, IAC has proven in the past that they are not to be underestimated either. All I can say right now is that I think it's going to be a very bloody Christmas for both sides of this. Hopefully someone will finance our way into it. Kill IAC and friends again or shatter the dream of ISS. It's all EVE and all deliciously dramatic IMO. - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:23:00 - [199] Edited by: gusta on 11/12/2006 12:23:52 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: gusta They instructed the removal of assets from iss stns becuase they heard rumors that iss was going to reset iac standings. lol! You guys are clutching desperately at straws here. Count made a post expressing a desire for continued 'blue' relations, so how you arrive at that conclusion is beyond me. You really must try harder on this smear campaign, its failing miserably so far. oh so you want to make things up or post what you feel to be true yet, when somone else post somthing you first jump to the conclusion that its false info or, a smear campaign. tbh butter you cant run around saying whats true or not as you dont have both sides of the story. you only post what you think is true in hopes to sway the publics eye in favor of your precious iss.
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:25:00 - [200] Originally by: Butter Dog Perhaps you could help them with your amazing auto-cannon geddon? Perhaps you could help ISS with your unparalelled wit? You do understand, the more you say the more you turn people against ISS right?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:30:00 - [201] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Butter Dog Perhaps you could help them with your amazing auto-cannon geddon? Perhaps you could help ISS with your unparalelled wit? You do understand, the more you say the more you turn people against ISS right? The traffic in my ear from neutrals to this is quite different. Don't think the general population of EVE are that stupid. They can see this for what it is. They don't think ISS 'deserved' the -10 from IAC. They believe the excuses IAC have give are manufactured at best. They are also curious to know why these threads have such a large number of posts from Shroud of Darkness... and seeing IAC work so closely with pirates is certainly a stain on their 'free space' reputation. Fact is, IAC used to stand for something. But bored of NBSI, they now actively sponsor nearby pirate forces, and turn on the nearest entity they think they can get easy kills from. Its all so obvious, and thats why people are not falling for IAC's story. Nor are they falling for the spam of Shroud of Darkness posts (usually low-level smack).
Lizza Ecktar Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:31:00 - [202] Originally by: Seleene TBH, egg-warming sucks. Unless it happens to be a FIX egg
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:33:00 - [203] Edited by: n sx on 11/12/2006 12:38:59 Butter Dog, your rants in this thread border on stupidity. You're making bold claims that make you look like a fool. You've spoken poorly of IAC, with no idea of ever having fought us (other than 7 days in The Priory). We know you've hated IAC for a very long time, who knows why, we just don't care. You can probably be blamed for alot of the ISSN/IAC tension back at the begining of the year anyway with your underhanded relationships and dealings with Curse Coalition/Tyrell Corp. So in summary, stop yapping, just get in a ship and head on down for a fight. Get back into ISS, or stay in your current corp - you're RED either way.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:36:00 - [204] Originally by: Lizza Ecktar Originally by: Seleene TBH, egg-warming sucks. Unless it happens to be a FIX egg I stand corrected!! - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
Lubomir Kratochvil Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:39:00 - [205] Edited by: Lubomir Kratochvil on 11/12/2006 12:39:16 ahem I have an important announcement: pew pew That is all. Today is the tomorrow that you should have feared yesterday.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:39:00 - [206] Originally by: n sx Butter Dog, your rants in this thread border on stupidity. You're making bold claims that make you look like a fool. You've spoken poorly of IAC, with no idea of ever having fought us (other than 7 days in Curse Coalition). We know you've hated IAC for a very long time, who knows why, we just don't care. You can probably be blamed for alot of the ISSN/IAC tension back at the begining of the year anyway with your underhanded relationships and dealings with Curse Coalition/Tyrell Corp. So in summary, stop yapping, just get in a ship and head on down for a fight. Get back into ISS, or stay in your current corp - you're RED either way. TBH, I suspected I might be red to IAC when I started ganking your mission runners and building an impressive collection of T2 cap rechargers (kali probing ftw). That aside, I've always held IAC in mostly high regard, until now. I liked your free space ideals, you seemed like an honest and forthright group of guys, and I was vocal in my support of you during your war with McFix. But all that is gone, and its down to YOUR actions, not mine. - You sponsor pirates who actively hunt traffic in your alleged 'free space' - You manufacture excuses to set ISS to -10 and lack the balls to be upfront and honest about your motives - You have lost your integrity, and everything you once stood for. Thats fine, you're entitled to change. But that doesnt mean I have to carry on thinking 'what a nice bunch IAC are'. Far from it.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:54:00 - [207] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken dude, are you serious? every iac ive seen today is shouting about how they are going to take the iss stations. I have ways of hearing things. pretty funny misdirection tho. IAC is run by representative government, not by consensus. Even if you hear our grunt pilots saying they want to take the station doesn't mean it's actually part of our agenda. Originally by: Butter Dog Don't think the general population of EVE are that stupid. They can see this for what it is. They don't think ISS 'deserved' the -10 from IAC. They believe the excuses IAC have give are manufactured at best. We haven't given our "reasons" just yet, beyond pewpew. Of course, that doesn't seem to stop you. ---- Marginis and Tycho, sitting in a tree, camped in by fifteen hundred IAC
Jonask'ri Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:55:00 - [208] Originally by: Mangold Edited by: Mangold on 10/12/2006 23:50:39 Originally by: Redwolf This is why an ISS pilot ganged with Ushra'khan forces and engaged CVA ships persuing a legitimate war last night, outside of ISS space? Redwolf, keep this out of the forums and contact a senior member of the Ushra'Khan. We don't fly with ISS on missions against CVA. Mangold, I have already sent Nyphur (CC: Count T) regarding the incident. There will be no contact with Ushra'Khan concerning this matter as we expected no special rules of engagement with you terrorists. We did however expect the publically neutral ISS not to attack us whether ganged or not ganged with Ushra'Khan forces. Regards, Jonask'ri ----- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes Redwolf > No Solar System can be found with 'c_ck' in the beginning its name. Jonask'ri
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:56:00 - [209] Originally by: Butter Dog The traffic in my ear from neutrals to this is quite different. Don't think the general population of EVE are that stupid. They can see this for what it is. They don't think ISS 'deserved' the -10 from IAC. They believe the excuses IAC have give are manufactured at best. They are also curious to know why these threads have such a large number of posts from Shroud of Darkness... and seeing IAC work so closely with pirates is certainly a stain on their 'free space' reputation. Before I joined priory, I was huzzah and also axe. Both blue to you guys (seeing as you like to argue for ISS and pretty much leave when you want to pirate, and come back when you're done, "you guys" refers to ISS) and you managed to ** off quite a lot of people who normally would not rise to it. A lot of Huzzah got ed off with ISS for continual price gouging. No other blue alliance to us came into our space, bought up products put on sale for low prices (obviously intended for sale to the alliance), and put them up at inflated, marginis-esque prices. This happened SO MANY TIMES even after it was taken up with ISS leadership. Also, the number of times we had ISS people ratting, mining and complexing in our space like it was their own, not leaving when asked and not being dealt with by the leadership was also pretty *** annoying. Stupid like that has probably soured a lot of carebear opinions of your alliance, I know a load of people in HF got ed off to the point of almost shooting ISS but held off because we had bigger things on our plate... Its not too hard to see that IAC has just been **ed off one too many times and wants retribution. As for the spam of SOD posts, its obviously because we engineered this entire situation, since it benefits us to have MORE people shooting at our closest buddies and friends in ISS . Finally, PRI guys correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think we shoot neutrals in any IAC space apart from F4 (seeing as it's on the doril > zxic pipe), so if neutrals can get to IAC space safely, it's still free space . Pri helped IAC keep their space when it was required, which is much more than can be said about ISS ("neutral" or not, you used to share pretty much the same ideals as IAC and still didnt act). When you're finished with your latest piracy fun, come back to ISS so we can shoost pls?
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:01:00 - [210] Edited by: gusta on 11/12/2006 13:05:14 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: n sx Butter Dog, your rants in this thread border on stupidity. You're making bold claims that make you look like a fool. You've spoken poorly of IAC, with no idea of ever having fought us (other than 7 days in Curse Coalition). We know you've hated IAC for a very long time, who knows why, we just don't care. You can probably be blamed for alot of the ISSN/IAC tension back at the begining of the year anyway with your underhanded relationships and dealings with Curse Coalition/Tyrell Corp. So in summary, stop yapping, just get in a ship and head on down for a fight. Get back into ISS, or stay in your current corp - you're RED either way. TBH, I suspected I might be red to IAC when I started ganking your mission runners and building an impressive collection of T2 cap rechargers (kali probing ftw). That aside, I've always held IAC in mostly high regard, until now. I liked your free space ideals, you seemed like an honest and forthright group of guys, and I was vocal in my support of you during your war with McFix. But all that is gone, and its down to YOUR actions, not mine. - You sponsor pirates who actively hunt traffic in your alleged 'free space' - You manufacture excuses to set ISS to -10 and lack the balls to be upfront and honest about your motives - You have lost your integrity, and everything you once stood for. Thats fine, you're entitled to change. But that doesnt mean I have to carry on thinking 'what a nice bunch IAC are'. Far from it. and how exactly do they sponsor shroud of darkness? this situation is no different than fix getting + standings from iss and attacking iac. but i guess i must go with the old proverb "never argue with an idiot he will just lower you to his level and beat you with experience" is correct in this case so im done with you. and i hope you rejoin iss and got your pirating out of your system as we all know thats why you leave iss from time to time. see you in space butter
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:10:00 - [211] Originally by: Butter Dog - You sponsor pirates who actively hunt traffic in your alleged 'free space' its not piracy! we're on a mission to reduce jump queues also we dont 'pirate' in iac systems (note curse, zxic, kdf, most of catch, immensea and tenerifis are NOT IAC space, we do shoot everything there)
gusta The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:14:00 - [212] we shoot the occational neutral in f4 but we dont activly hunt in f4r2. we dont check the belts or the stns for neutrals. only time we kill anything in f4 is if its a negative to us or we chased it in(wich doesnt happen very much)
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:17:00 - [213] Originally by: gusta we shoot the occational neutral in f4 but we dont activly hunt in f4r2. we dont check the belts or the stns for neutrals. only time we kill anything in f4 is if its a negative to us or we chased it in(wich doesnt happen very much) You guys are flying alongside IAC. You're blue to them. And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most. I'm just curious to know why IAC, who apparently have free space and open markets, would wish to give piratical forces who camp the main entry/exit systems + standings. Seems to go against what IAC used to stand for. And, yes, its no secret that I don't mind the odd bit of piracy myself, but I'm not the one taking the moral high ground like IAC and their 'free space' blah blah.
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:21:00 - [214] Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43 Stop the god damn whining! You people are pafethic! (especially Butter Fool .. sell this guy some clue's PLEASE) SOD and IAC did not plan this, but yes, this is as a gift to us. For those that dont understand it, and that are ALOT of TARDS: SOD is +10 to IAC, why? because we actually HELP IAC. ISS is -10 to IAC, why? -they took advantage of the trust IAC put in them -they took advantage of the positive standings they had with IAC -the constant whining, spionage infiltrating and possible backstabing of ISS to IAC -blablabla * 10000 ... I dare to say, that 3-5% of the IAC members are actually ISS.. I dare to say that if IAC didnt declare this war at this time, ISS would have done something stoupid soon and we would have the same whining. I dare to say that this war is not SOD's fault, but we take it as a gift and it will probably strengthen our bands with IAC. I dare to say ISS's light is going out, the darkness has arrived. Anyone wanne bet who is gonna fall first? ASCN or ISS? ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:22:00 - [215] Originally by: Butter Dog And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most. People who die to us aren't trying hard enough. Seriously... flying haulers through a set of systems which is KNOWN to be camped by multiple NBSI organizations without any sort of scout is... retarded to say the least. Think of it as a border patrol... if you pass the checks you get into IAC space
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:26:00 - [216] Originally by: Gutsani Anyone wanne bet who is gonna fall first? ASCN or ISS? lol If you think ISS are going to fall, you're about to learn a valuable lesson. ISS is all about the outposts. You guys are very effective pirates, some of the best, but you won't be able to take their outposts. Try if you like.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:31:00 - [217] Originally by: Hoshi One little seed sown 8 months ago, now blossoming into a beautiful flower. Just sad that the one who planted the seed did not survive long enough to harvest the fruits of their labor. \o
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:35:00 - [218] OMG we got raid claiming responsiblity on one side and Butter Dog sticking in his nose to a situation he knows nothing about on the other Listen - everyone else just leave us to the fight - IAC and ISS are gonna have plenty to add to this discussion soon enough! ______________________________________
Jennie Marlboro No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:42:00 - [219] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: Jennie Marlboro Originally by: Vensa Heckler Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself: FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ... Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there? Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right? I think you will find what he means is IAC told their members to move stuff out of ISS stations not ISS told IAC to remove their stuff Ah. That wasn't clear from the post as I read it. I supposed this is why my writing and composition instructors always used to lecture about not using passive voice. In that case, I'll just have to assume that the leaders of ISS and IAC both have their reasons for doing whatever it is they're doing now, and that they all think it'll turn out for the best in the end. One of them is wrong, ofc., but that's what makes the game interesting.
DaChMon Caldari FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 13:45:00 - [220] ..............look mum, in in a thread filled with overinflated egos.... oh yeah... ------ My oppinion, views, flames, whines, discussions, rants and all other postings are not the view of my corp, my alliance, or anyone affiliated with me or my family.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:15:00 - [221] few points... Yes Priory is blue to us...they helped us against MCFix while you laid low... NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time.... You can dance around this point all you'd like but YOU know you're wrong on this one!! Even Count admitted it. What was up with ISS locking pilots before war was even announced? Didn't fire but your pilots were locking.....bit odd isn't it.... Anywho, not that I'm 100% for it...but I'm not 100% against it either. Had fun last night....first time I was ever a primary...lol.... for ccp.....boost up the node....LAG SUCKED LAST NIGHT AND SO DID JUMP QUE'S!!!!! ? since I know MC is in this thread....you stated you have a few months of contracts ahead of you....will you be putting them on hold?
Unbeliever Kresmoreen Communist Vikings Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:16:00 - [222] Originally by: Gutsani Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43whine and blather no. Whether butter dawg is spot on or way off. Step back, remove your head from your bum, and try to think how difficult it would be to run a neutral organisation. Understand, that you DONT understand (you and many others, by your posts) what neutral actually means. They aren't infallible, they do make mistakes. If you read the forums a bit more, you'd see they've gone a long way into fixing their mistakes. And explaining themselves better. As for people saying anchoring POS in the station systems is aggression, lol? They asked (queried?) to my knowledge, the surrounding alliances first. Gave them first dibs on shares. Have ****** up on occasion but tried to fix it. As BD said, if you just want to shoot them, cut the crap and just say it. Fit some tech I cahones and be straight about it. just meh. if you want to shoot people cool, its a pvp game. stop trying to claim the moral high ground.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:16:00 - [223] Originally by: GO MaZ Originally by: Butter Dog And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most. People who die to us aren't trying hard enough. Seriously... flying haulers through a set of systems which is KNOWN to be camped by multiple NBSI organizations without any sort of scout is... retarded to say the least. Think of it as a border patrol... if you pass the checks you get into IAC space That's funny...
Bamsie State War Academy	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:19:00 - [224] MC in action, I foresee
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:24:00 - [225] Originally by: Buxaroo I like you IAC guys more and more everytime I hear about you. The South is getting hotter and hotter......and it's winter! Despite all the heat we still have the coldest beers....free marketing pitch ftw...
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:24:00 - [226] Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen Originally by: Gutsani Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43whine and blather no. Whether butter dawg is spot on or way off. Step back, remove your head from your bum, and try to think how difficult it would be to run a neutral organisation. Understand, that you DONT understand (you and many others, by your posts) what neutral actually means. They aren't infallible, they do make mistakes. If you read the forums a bit more, you'd see they've gone a long way into fixing their mistakes. And explaining themselves better. As for people saying anchoring POS in the station systems is aggression, lol? They asked (queried?) to my knowledge, the surrounding alliances first. Gave them first dibs on shares. Have **** up on occasion but tried to fix it. As BD said, if you just want to shoot them, cut the crap and just say it. Fit some tech I cahones and be straight about it. just meh. if you want to shoot people cool, its a pvp game. stop trying to claim the moral high ground. I think you'll find that we (SOD/Pri) don't try to take any morale high ground here. We have never denied that we wanted to shoot ISS nor have we ever had them blue. We welcome this change of standing from IAC, but plz get your facts straight before you post bull** ____________ The Priory Killboard
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:25:00 - [227] Originally by: Silvestri NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time.... Since so many seem stuck on this... The capital ships had been there for over two weeks weeks in support of UK in 9UY. So had our regular fleet. On the night of the first strike, our cap ship pilots logged in, undocked and jumped out in less than twenty minutes. Our regular fleet met up with the FIX fleet nearly ten jumps away from the ISS stations. There was no build up to notice because people were already used to seeing us there and on the night of the attack the ISS systems were not where we assembled. Lastly, less than ten people in FIX and MC even knew IAC was the target until less than 30 mins before the first cyno went up. Most of our own people assumed we were hitting AXE. ISS knew nothing. - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:27:00 - [228] Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen i'm retarded and never learned me to read Did you actually read my post? Did i kill your ISS main? Poor boy Now, put your head back on your bum so the blood actually reaches it, and try to read my post. If its to difficult ask your mommy to read it for you. tbh, dont respond and just stay out of this or at least post with your ISS main so i know who i killed. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:29:00 - [229] Originally by: JaredC01 ISSN = MC Support Fleet <-- Spoken from an ex-ISSN Captain's standpoint... Just to ask, was that in a negative sense of the word(s)? Coz from what I experienced ISSN did a fantastic job! Every time MC showed up and stayed on a gate for more than 5 seconds you would have 10 ppl asking "whats going on? can we come? what do you need?" and we would quite often say "lock and load!" followed by Fowlplay taking serious command and then we went off to pwn some ppl up badly. ISSN lost more ships than the MC but afaik they did it with a smile and with the feeling that they had mattered! They did good and have our respect. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Tehyarec Erasers inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:29:00 - [230] Playing forum warriors is pointless and boring. Just bring it all on in the field of battle and let's have fun, who cares about reasons as much as to write pages after pages of meaningless flaming
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:33:00 - [231] Originally by: Tehyarec Playing forum warriors is pointless and boring. Just bring it all on in the field of battle and let's have fun, who cares about reasons as much as to write pages after pages of meaningless flaming The forum-war is half the fun ____________ The Priory Killboard
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:36:00 - [232] Whoo, we're going to need flame retardant suits soon whenever we poke our heads in this thread. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:37:00 - [233] After an hour of reading....my honest opinion is that this is like 2 big brothers who just need to air out the grudges....swap some blows and feel better and nap again.
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:37:00 - [234] Originally by: Lister Black From a political perspective I'm sad we're going to war because blah, blah, blah. From a personal perspective, this is the kind of things I joined EVE for. It's a game, I'm here to have fun, and I have fun by shoosting others. It might be a simple point of view, but complicated things bum me out. IAC leadership has said they don't want ISS outposts. Maybe, they're lying, but I hope they're not. Territorial disputes (and, by transition, POS wars) are complicated and, from my perspective, not fun. If all goes well, we'll both emerge stronger out of this and perhaps even friends once again. So, once again, good luck and good fight to both sides. P.S.: I really do hope this war ends soon, you guys have great prices :D. Lister... you need to get some space in between you and ISS :) That alliance is bad for the free spirited pvp spirit. Trust me on this, we pew pew'd together, and my time in Praxis was some of dullest and worst in Eve. You need to come on over to the Dark Side, it's so much more fun and satisfying here. I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;) http://files.frashii.com/~elrich/FlaggSig.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo
Horza Otho Minmatar Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:39:00 - [235] I am Horza Otho and i approve of this thread. --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:47:00 - [236] Cleaned thread of Trolling and Flaming, Can i remind eveyone to not make personnal insulting comments - no matter who they are towards and please keep on topic. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:47:00 - [237] Originally by: Itaro Flagg I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;) erm.. I think you're only supposed to shoot the red thingies, not the blue ones
Lightof God Caldari Arcana Imperii Ltd. Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:52:00 - [238] Hi. Quote: ButterDog Hi again Hey BD get bak into the allience or please pipe down. As of right now I read all of your stuff becuase you are the former commander of the ISSN. Note the word former. You however seem to be under the impression that you are still a big whig in the ISS/ISSN if you are please say so. Otherwise, Pipe down and if you refuse to do so I shall utterly ignore any posts I see from you here without the ISSN tag next to your name. I reccomend others do the same. So my words to you BD, put up or shut up.
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:01:00 - [239] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Ye gods, people. Can we just stop the smack. I know I don't personally hate any IAC, let's just shoot each other. Oh and please please PLEASE let this keep going for at least 2 weeks. I get to fly my thanatos in 11 days and I want to christen it properly Update your clone. Retraining for a cap ship takes longer than retraining for an ishtar
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:06:00 - [240] Originally by: Crozon Originally by: Itaro Flagg I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;) erm.. I think you're only supposed to shoot the red thingies, not the blue ones I'm really not very picky at all ;) But ya, perhaps that came out wrong, hopefully the point got across. As for Priory/SOD in this? As has been said, we've never masked our intentions. We absolutely love shooting ISS. This war is going to make for the best eve christmas ever for us, we're all quite giddy over some large scale ISS shoostings. If I remember correctly, we wound up leaving IAC in no small part to our inability to stop shooting ISS even when they were the wrong color on our overview ;) But between IAC and ISS? It really isn't that complicated. IAC didn't go to war because ISS anchored POS, that actually has nothing to do with it, and is nothing more than a ButterDog Strawman(tm). From where I sit, it came down like this: First, ISS, as an alliance, has had multiple serious transgressions of good will against IAC, these have been outlined very clearly already. A response of "well, we fixed that, it won't happen again" can only work so many times. What other transgressions will occur before they are "fixed"? Through these actions or inactions, ISS has shown themselves to be a dangerous and untrustworthy neighbor. Also, ISS have an inability to control their actual members. Anytime you talk about the faults of ISS, you have to split it into two catagories. First being alliance political faults, second being individual members or corps acting against the ISS charter, and ISS's inability to control them. Despite what you say, and despite your apologies, you will be held accountable for any actions taken by anyone in your alliance, whether those actions are against your charter or not (especially if they are). There is a huge gap in between what ISS professes themselves to be and the actual functioning of their alliance. Between poor politics of the alliance itself and poor control of their members, ISS is an undisciplined and erratic mess that no alliance should ever want on their border. But now, things have simply gone far enough that IAC is moving to secure their space and borders, not from the aggressions of ISS, but from their sheer ineptitude.
Cicilus Hadrican Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:53:00 - [241] Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 11/12/2006 16:17:00 <Iraq internet and multiple postings ftl (delete plz)>
Cicilus Hadrican Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:56:00 - [242] Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 11/12/2006 16:21:26 <Iraq internet and multiple postings ftl (delete plz)>
Cicilus Hadrican Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:58:00 - [243] Edited by: Cicilus Hadrican on 11/12/2006 16:11:15 <Stupid slow Iraq internet, plz delete)
Maria Ravenwind Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 16:05:00 - [244] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 12:03:22 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. I'm going to tell you hear and now: you couldn't take them even if you wanted to. If you tried, you'd lose all your dreads. IAC should be ashamed of their utter lack of balls. You lie about your reasons for war, and now you shy away from anything remotely challenging. Please do atttempt to take the outposts. Go right ahead. I'll gain much satisfaction reading all your dread killmails on the ISS board. I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there. I'm just throwing this out there since you're mentioning how hard it would be to take ISS outposts. If they are so profecient at killing Dreads and protecting their deathstars, then what happened with the CC/CDC invasion a number of months ago? All I remember happening is CC/CDC locking down KDF, CC/CDC stopping any form of resistence from ISS, IAC and a few other alliances coming to help, and then CC/CDC was gone, without a POS touched. Now, do you mean to say that they load isk into their cannons and shoot till the enemy withdraws and NAPs? Because that's what happened in that conflict.
Clipparius ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 16:19:00 - [245] Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 5. Pretty much same note, MCFIX siege is over and ISS continues to engage Priory, while they are under the IAC flag, with Priory tring their best not to fight back. Only to fight back when eggressed. Dispite Priory flying a IAC flag at the time, this would be in itself a ACT OF WAR. Priory seperates from IAC due to IAC not wanting to fight ISS due to mutual goals. WHAT? Priory continually attacked ISS whilst members of IAC. We had numerous instances of this, which were reported to IAC. This bit is outright wrong. And as for all the other bits, they all happened in the past - why suddenly this weekend? Sure ISS haven't been right all the time, but we have tried to respond to worries from other alliances, even rewriting the charter. I still haven't seen anything that ISS are supposed to have done in the last month or so that would make IAC take this decision.
Dallan Arethi Gallente Phoenix Wing	Posted - 2006.12.11 16:49:00 - [246] Originally by: Clipparius Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 5. Pretty much same note, MCFIX siege is over and ISS continues to engage Priory, while they are under the IAC flag, with Priory tring their best not to fight back. Only to fight back when eggressed. Dispite Priory flying a IAC flag at the time, this would be in itself a ACT OF WAR. Priory seperates from IAC due to IAC not wanting to fight ISS due to mutual goals. WHAT? Priory continually attacked ISS whilst members of IAC. We had numerous instances of this, which were reported to IAC. This bit is outright wrong. Not only outright wrong, but contradicted by a Priory member in the post directly above. Speaking as a relative neutral (frankly, since I live in empire lowsec, I'm only watching this situation for the drama, though I appreciate the ideals that BOTH SIDES generally express in favour of opening up trade in 0.0): look, we get it, you have some issues with relations in the past between you and ISS, you chose now to start shooting over them. We get it. Stop trying to make yourselves look like the tragically wronged party. Why would ISS start a war? It's bad for business. They expressly didn't want war, to the point of their CEO trying to open up negotiations. You wanted a war, for reasons exhaustively outlines, and seized on their deployments and fleet movements as a pretext. Consequently, there's going to be a war. Let's see what happens in space.
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:17:00 - [247] Originally by: Dallan Arethi Not only outright wrong, but contradicted by a Priory member in the post directly above his, stating that they left IAC because they enjoyed shooting at ISS so much that even ISS being blue didn't stop them. :D As it's not my intention to incriminate anyone, I would like to add that there was no small amount of confusion at the time (poor IAC diplomats), and so people getting the story wrong in the telling is understandable. Really, the gist of what was said is true. Our political (snicker) goals, and method of play just didn't line up well enough with IAC's, nothing more than that. The details are only just that. Also, one thing I missed in regards to ISS is the outwards face that they present to the rest of the game. And this comes from the fact that ISS is an undisciplined mass of peons (for the most part, there are always exceptions, and a number of ISS folks that I have nothing but <3 for), but this comes across in threads like this. One of the biggest perpetrators being ButterDog, and while sure, you can say that he isn't an 'official' spokesman, he is still one of the loudest voices for ISS--even when he isn't a member. Really, the general attitude of holier-than-thou and entitlement given off by the majority of the ISS peons simply ****es people off. Add on top of that, the fact that as an alliance, you operate with an absolute lack of honor, and those alliances and corps who care about those things lose all respect for the name and 'mission' of ISS. For example, listening to a member of White Nova spam Litom while sitting in a POS for an hour going on about how Priory lacks discipline because we talk in local? The sheer hypocrisy is mindblowing and indictive of your alliance as a whole. This war has been a long time coming. Now die.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:24:00 - [248] Originally by: Maria Ravenwind If they are so profecient at killing Dreads and protecting their deathstars, then what happened with the CC/CDC invasion a number of months ago? All I remember happening is CC/CDC locking down KDF, CC/CDC stopping any form of resistence from ISS, IAC and a few other alliances coming to help, and then CC/CDC was gone, without a POS touched. Your memory serves you poorly. No dreads were deployed by CC/CDC. They opted instead to POS-spam the system. Now ZX has triple the number of deathstars. So go ahead, make ISS's day and have a go.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:27:00 - [249] Originally by: Silvestri NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time.... You can dance around this point all you'd like but YOU know you're wrong on this one!! Even Count admitted it. Er, ISS have already stated that they noticed. And as soon as Count was back from a RL meeting in London, he asked Seleene to move (which MC have confirmed to be true). Also, ISSN initially blocked the Fix fleet from coming IAC's way.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:38:00 - [250] Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 1. When ISS forms a NAP with Curse Coalition and tells IAC to leave while CC extracts assests from the area (as good will) Then allows the CC to base from their area for a couple of jumps less skirmishes with IAC. I was at the negotiations on ventrilo. IAC were there too. ISS brought you guys to the table on that day, and a ceasefire was agreed betweeen you and CC/CDC. YOUR pilots then broke the ceasefire. Hardly our fault. Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 2. Before MCFIX, FIX used ISS outposts to stage attacks against IAC for some mutual and very fun pew pew sessions. Some how docking is allowed when supposibly hostile. (I believe I remember chasing that damn Jovius Manginus and his Vagabond many a day and himself hiding in the Tycho station grrr.) Before McFix, FIX were RED to ISS, and shot ISS on a daily basis. A few days before they attacked you, they approached ISS to ask for mutual blue standings, which ISS agreed to. No-one knew anything about the imminent attack on IAC, not even you guys. Both MC and FIX were asked to NOT base out of ISS outposts during the attack, which they agreed to. Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 3. MCFIX uses ISS stations as a small base to set up siege shop. NAPS a long time enemy of theirs (FIX) and allows both partys to set shop and access to a friends space to oust IAC out of the Catch region. Regardless off IACS warnings that ISS pilots are to stay out of IAC space, many cases of ISS pilots are roaming around looking at active fleets and possibly spying. IAC still refrains from firing. Reports of the Count (which he confesses himself as a lapse of judgement.) watches as a IAC POS is put into reinforced. Again, they DID use ISS stations to start with, and as soon as ISS management found out, they asked MC/FIX to leave. They did this. This has ALREADY been confirmed by Seleene. Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 4. In the same MCFIX timeframe, out of mutual repect of each other, SNIGG and Priory decide they rather see IAC in Catch and aid IAC in fighting MCFIX. ISS is warned on countless times to not fire on SNIGG and Priory since they are temporary blue for defense at the time. (even AFTER Priory becomes IAC themselves!) ISS continuely violates pleas to not engage allys that have agreed not to fire on ISS. Utter rubbish. Priory opened fire on ISS first, and the killmails and logs are there to prove it, and these where presented to your management at the time. Eventually PRI leave IAC, and even ADMIT they do so because they want to shoot ISS. Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 5. Pretty much same note, MCFIX siege is over and ISS continues to engage Priory, while they are under the IAC flag, with Priory tring their best not to fight back. Only to fight back when eggressed. Dispite Priory flying a IAC flag at the time, this would be in itself a ACT OF WAR. Priory seperates from IAC due to IAC not wanting to fight ISS due to mutual goals. Just, lol. Are you so completely retarded you actually think that ISS engaged PRI first, that they somehow buliied this elite group of pirates? That a group of miners and industrialists hunted them down? That PRI, who ADMITTED they wanted to shoot ISS, didnt do it to stir things up? Your reasons are not even credible. Its just one pathetic excuse after another.
Toranya Faidutti Gallente White Nova Industries Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:40:00 - [251] Originally by: Silvestri After an hour of reading....my honest opinion is that this is like 2 big brothers who just need to air out the grudges....swap some blows and feel better and nap again. QFT. My own thoughts as a newish member of ISS... I don't know very much about the history of the IAC/ISS relationship, nor was I around when the MC debacle happened. So I have nothing to saw on those topics. Do I want this war? Not particularly. War always gets in the way of industry and that is my first love. That said, I had a lot of fun in the battles last night. They were the first fleet battles that my character didn't actually lag so hard to the point that I was dead and podded before I got control of my client back. So, while I am happy to spend some time playing pew-pew with our IAC neighbors and trying out my new combat ships and fittings, I do hope that my people and your people have a sit-down to resolve their differences before too long so that all parties involved can get back to the far more important business of making money.
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:46:00 - [252] Originally by: Butter Dog Are you so completely retarded you actually think that ISS engaged PRI first, that they somehow buliied this elite group of pirates? That a group of miners and industrialists hunted them down? That PRI, who ADMITTED they wanted to shoot ISS, didnt do it to stir things up? Your reasons are not even credible. Its just one pathetic excuse after another. See, there you go throwing extra stuff in there. "did it to stir things up", I can only picture how we in Priory look in your over active imagination. Cloaked figures in a dark room, standing in a circle (yaknow, where the light only barely shows our outlines), plotting and pulling the strings of both ISS and IAC, leading them into a war against each other to benefit our sinister, and as of yet entirely unknown goals! MWAUAHAHHAHA. Quite the imagination you have there, perhaps you should write some fan fiction instead of filling the alliance forums with non-sense? Priory's "goals" are quite simple. Pew. Pew. No stirring things up, no plotting, no none of that. Life is simple and straight forward in the Priory! Every day is a battle, every formation a parade, every meal a feast! I Love the Priory! Yarrr. But really, I'm quite flattered by all that you attribute to us--a few stray shots fired (and, btw, we never actually blew up any ISS ships before mutual hostilities were brought about, a few shots fired, but no actual deaths. The first actual kill goes to ISS, I can be quite sure about it, because it was my rupture that was 'first blood'.) does not equal anything sinister and malevolent.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:51:00 - [253] Butter you need to stop replying you just show your ignorance. You have no clue about what has been going on, so just go back to pirating in your one system and being a non factor. When priory joined iac there was a friendly fire issue with iss, they responded and ganked one of us. A ceasefire was worked out between us and iss, we were not going to shoot each other and go back to focusing on McFix. However a couple iss loons from the corp ganksterz wanted reimbursement for their hauler (even though we didn't ask for reinbursement for a raven) and engaged a couple of us. Since they were iss they were absolutely terrible at pvp and were quickly dispatched. They then proceeded to say that iss would keep shooting priory even though there was a ceasefire. Hell we even let a bunch of iss freighters go untouched when they warped into our bubble with a crap escort (Even magz restrained from killing them) So mr. butter i have my head up my ass dog, why don't you bugger off. You're a non factor now, no one cares about you but yourself. Just slink away back under your rock while important people carry on with important things.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:52:00 - [254] Originally by: Itaro Flagg Originally by: Butter Dog Are you so completely retarded you actually think that ISS engaged PRI first, that they somehow buliied this elite group of pirates? That a group of miners and industrialists hunted them down? That PRI, who ADMITTED they wanted to shoot ISS, didnt do it to stir things up? Your reasons are not even credible. Its just one pathetic excuse after another. See, there you go throwing extra stuff in there. "did it to stir things up", I can only picture how we in Priory look in your over active imagination. Cloaked figures in a dark room, standing in a circle (yaknow, where the light only barely shows our outlines), plotting and pulling the strings of both ISS and IAC, leading them into a war against each other to benefit our sinister, and as of yet entirely unknown goals! MWAUAHAHHAHA. Quite the imagination you have there, perhaps you should write some fan fiction instead of filling the alliance forums with non-sense? Priory's "goals" are quite simple. Pew. Pew. No stirring things up, no plotting, no none of that. Life is simple and straight forward in the Priory! Every day is a battle, every formation a parade, every meal a feast! I Love the Priory! Yarrr. But really, I'm quite flattered by all that you attribute to us--a few stray shots fired (and, btw, we never actually blew up any ISS ships before mutual hostilities were brought about, a few shots fired, but no actual deaths. The first actual kill goes to ISS, I can be quite sure about it, because it was my rupture that was 'first blood'.) does not equal anything sinister and malevolent. I'd like to correct you there dear corp-mate. Priory did in fact shoot first and destroyed a couple of haulers (well I along with a corpmate did). HOWEVER those haulers were reimbursed (that's what I was told by Pri management), yet some ISS found it necessary to shoot us after we had reimbursed their haulers (hell they were even warned in local prior to us destroying the 2 agressing battleships). ____________ The Priory Killboard
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:58:00 - [255] Originally by: Layla Currie Butter you need to stop replying you just show your ignorance. You have no clue about what has been going on, so just go back to pirating in your one system and being a non factor. IAC are talking about past events as a reason for justifying the -10 setting. I am perfectly well informed about these past events, having been there in person, but thanks for your concern all the same.
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:58:00 - [256] Originally by: maGz I'd like to correct you there dear corp-mate. Priory did in fact shoot first and destroyed a couple of haulers (well I along with a corpmate did). HOWEVER those haulers were reimbursed (that's what I was told by Pri management), yet some ISS found it necessary to shoot us after we had reimbursed their haulers (hell they were even warned in local prior to us destroying the 2 agressing battleships). Well, since my memory is different, I'll go ahead and bow out to your recollection of the events in question. No need to have conflicting stories confusing things even further. But really, it's all rather insignificant. It has nothing to do with the current war. Feelings between Priory and ISS are both mutual and very well known--and hardly the cause, in the slightest, for IAC's issues with ISS.
Tandyra Eve University	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:00:00 - [257] Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/12/2006 23:09:39 ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves. ROFL... arrogant AND paranoid!
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:05:00 - [258] Originally by: Tandyra Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/12/2006 23:09:39 ISS, we knew what you were up ever since the MC conflict. We just responded first this time. We will defend ourselves. ROFL... arrogant AND paranoid! that's blackhorizon for yah, except you forgot to put lovable in there too and cuddly, and a fuzzy bear
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:15:00 - [259] Originally by: Butter Dog Your memory serves you poorly. No dreads were deployed by CC/CDC. They opted instead to POS-spam the system. Now ZX has triple the number of deathstars. So go ahead, make ISS's day and have a go. About 10 dreads where deployed and all 3 medium moon mining posses with token guns you had as defence where put in reinforced. It could been done without dreads if that you are getting at. About 5 large deathstar posses where put up but they where unanchord before they had a chance to claim soverginity as the whole affair where resolved in less than 24h. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:24:00 - [260] Originally by: Hoshi About 10 dreads where deployed and all 3 medium moon mining posses with token guns you had as defence where put in reinforced. It could been done without dreads if that you are getting at. About 5 large deathstar posses where put up but they where unanchord before they had a chance to claim soverginity as the whole affair where resolved in less than 24h. Large POS were up and running, and you guys zerged in 5 large POS. We then went and got 10 large POS (I remember as I escorted the freighter from Agil) which we started to deploy with you in system. Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed.
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:28:00 - [261] Originally by: Butter Dog Large POS were up and running, and you guys zerged in 5 large POS. We then went and got 10 large POS (I remember as I escorted the freighter from Agil) which we started to deploy with you in system. Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed. Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:29:00 - [262] Originally by: Itaro Flagg Originally by: Butter Dog Large POS were up and running, and you guys zerged in 5 large POS. We then went and got 10 large POS (I remember as I escorted the freighter from Agil) which we started to deploy with you in system. Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed. Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum ***, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming.** beer pong anyone?
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:31:00 - [263] Originally by: Seleene Why? IAC isn't poor. It seems to me though that the option isn't being explored due to personal issues or the perceived bias of MC on this issue. Not at all. FYI Myself and Bacilius are the diplomat elects for IAC and Tyrrax is now a vice president of IAC. If and when we take ISS seriously IAC would explore every feasable plan if it needed to. We view MC as exactly what you are, a good Merc. corp. Because we had pew pew with you doesn't mean we hate you or base policy or neglect policy because you were hired. I have little interest in the ISS stations other than ISS do not keep very good grasp of the member corporations they leave to tend their outposts. This entire disagreement could have been avoided if ISS kept their house in order. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:33:00 - [264] Originally by: Layla Currie beer pong anyone? <3
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:35:00 - [265] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise.
Georgik Sojik Caldari Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:35:00 - [266] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hoshi About 10 dreads where deployed and all 3 medium moon mining posses with token guns you had as defence where put in reinforced. It could been done without dreads if that you are getting at. About 5 large deathstar posses where put up but they where unanchord before they had a chance to claim soverginity as the whole affair where resolved in less than 24h. Large POS were up and running, and you guys zerged in 5 large POS. We then went and got 10 large POS (I remember as I escorted the freighter from Agil) which we started to deploy with you in system. Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed. ôThe road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truthö
Itaro Flagg The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:37:00 - [267] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. Nah, I really just want you to stop talking =/ And as for public appearances? Sure they're important, but there is a certain fundamental nature of incompetence that, by definition, the more incompetence exhibited the greater the inability of said incompetent party to realize it. Which is to say, what you think you're doing for ISS's image, is considerably far from the reality of the situation.
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:38:00 - [268] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. Shut your codsmoking mouth. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Adril Alatar Minmatar No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:46:00 - [269] Originally by: Butter Dog Are you so completely retarded you actually think that ISS engaged PRI first, that they somehow buliied this elite group of pirates? That a group of miners and industrialists hunted them down? Originally by: Butter Dog Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed. You mean before this they were only miners and now they are miners and industrials?
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:48:00 - [270] All this buttered up SPINing is making me dizzy. (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:51:00 - [271] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. yah public perception counts a lot, which is why so many people hate iss and are cheering iac on, cause of idiots like you
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:53:00 - [272] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. yah public perception counts a lot, which is why so many people hate iss and are cheering iac on, cause of idiots like you lol The only people I see here posting in support of IAC are SOD, IAC, and their alts with little exclamation marks.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:58:00 - [273] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:58:42 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Which is to say, what you think you're doing for ISS's image, is considerably far from the reality of the situation. Tell me what you think setting ISS to -10 on the back of some very dubious reasons has done for the image of IAC. I think thats a slighty more important point.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 18:59:00 - [274] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:56:47 Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. yah public perception counts a lot, which is why so many people hate iss and are cheering iac on, cause of idiots like you lol The only people I see here posting in support of IAC are SOD, IAC, and their alts with little exclamation marks. Yes, IAC are telling me that my posts suck and I should be quiet. Funny, that, isnt it lol you really are that dumb huh? Maybe i'm blind but i see posts cheering on IAC from IMP, AAA, BoB, Iron, and others. So yah once again most of eve dislikes iss cause of idiots like you
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:03:00 - [275] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 19:05:25 Originally by: Layla Currie lol you really are that dumb huh? Maybe i'm blind but i see posts cheering on IAC from IMP, AAA, BoB, Iron, and others. So yah once again most of eve dislikes iss cause of idiots like you How do you define 'cheering on', a few randoms saying 'ooh pew pew in the south' is hardly a seal of approval. IAC have damaged their previously good reputation, and thats is the fact. Anyway, post with your main, Priory alt. Yet more posts from SOD/IAC flaming me personally is hardly going to get you very far in the battle for public opinion. Making it personal just makes your arguement look weak. Which it is. 'Oh I dont like you Butter Dog, so IAC were right to set ISS to -10'. Even though, er, I'm not in ISS. Nice one.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:06:00 - [276] damaged their reputation in who's eyes? Yours? And that's important why? You're a non factor get over it. So far the alliance that says they will back iss is LV, and frankly LV has quite a few problems of their own
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:09:00 - [277] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 19:09:34 Originally by: Layla Currie damaged their reputation in who's eyes? Yours? And that's important why? You're a non factor get over it. So far the alliance that says they will back iss is LV, and frankly LV has quite a few problems of their own No alliance leader has publically backed IAC. As for being a non-factor - I'm not the Priory alt. Why are SOD so keen not to have IAC shown in a bad light, I wonder Perhaps its because you fully support their free space ideals, and do so by camping their main entry/exit point to keep out neutral traffic.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:14:00 - [278] you once again show your ignorance if you think priory gives 2 ****s about the public's perception of us. But tbh i'm going to stop arguing with you in the hopes that you'll realize that no one cares what you have to say and you are just an annoying minge. So i bid you a kind farewell bitter dog
Xooja The Illucian Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:15:00 - [279] Excellant, good luck :)
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:18:00 - [280] Edited by: Kristoffer on 11/12/2006 19:20:33 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:58:42 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Which is to say, what you think you're doing for ISS's image, is considerably far from the reality of the situation. Tell me what you think setting ISS to -10 on the back of some very dubious reasons has done for the image of IAC. I think thats a slighty more important point. Come now Butter, Dubious reasons?I think IAC has every right to set ISS to negative as a result of ISS's actions in both the past and present and what was planned by ISS for IAC. Your (ISS's) plans were apparent back then and still now. Cheers.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:20:00 - [281] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 19:20:29 Originally by: Kristoffer Dubious reasons Butter Dog? I think IAC has every right to set ISS to negative as a result of ISS's in both the past and present and what was planned by ISS for IAC. Cheers. You're a well known anti-ISS forum chap, which is fine. But I'm curious, what plans did they have for IAC? Count made a public post requesting continued friendly relations, so anything outside of that I'm sure will be of interest to everyone. Spill the beans ;)
AnarkiTheStorm Tender Loving Care Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:21:00 - [282] ISSN should break away and do a dark-rising. I bet if BoB had ISSN EvE domination would happen in less than a day. --- Rararar....
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:22:00 - [283] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 19:20:29 Originally by: Kristoffer Dubious reasons Butter Dog? I think IAC has every right to set ISS to negative as a result of ISS's in both the past and present and what was planned by ISS for IAC. Cheers. You're a well known anti-ISS forum chap, which is fine. But I'm curious, what plans did they have for IAC? Count made a public post requesting continued friendly relations, so anything outside of that I'm sure will be of interest to everyone. Spill the beans ;) Certain members of IAC already know the answer to that. :)
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:22:00 - [284] Originally by: AnarkiTheStorm ISSN should break away and do a dark-rising. I bet if BoB had ISSN EvE domination would happen in less than a day. doubtful, issn are absolute rubbish at pvp
Tyrian Solteuer Caldari Tyrell Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:23:00 - [285] Just to set the record straight on the CC/CDC conflict with ISS and IAC... We deployed 6 dreads into ZXIC, bottled up the system, put enough ISS starbases into reinforced mode and put up enough of our own to challenge the sovereignty of the system. IAC actually lost more ships than ISS during this siege while they tried to cut us off from our lines of supply. Once this was done we entered into negotiations with the Count, reached an accord, which had absolutely nothing to do with money, access, offices, resources or use of space...we then packed up our forces and withdrew. At the time of the negotiations Count Tessasine was gracious enough to require that we speak to IAC about a NAP at the same time. He actually insisted on a join NAP but we felt that it would set a bad precedent to deal with both groups as a unit....however, I heard what IAC had to say, struck a temporary cease fire, and promised to meet up again in a week to discuss a longer term agreement. Unfortunately IAC forces violated the accord twice over the next few days as our forces withdrew. We came to the conclusion that a long term peace with IAC was not in our interest. In the end ISS held up their end of the deal and IAC greased 2 of our battleships under a flag of truce. Nuff said. I have always found that ISS have stuck to their word when it comes to their charter and the actions of their membership. Every incident that I have ever had with ISS has always been resolved quickly and in good spirits. Its quite clear that after we departed the area, the IAC have gotten quite bored and full of themselves, and are now simply looking for something else nearby to shoot at.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:25:00 - [286] I don't know why I bother as what I'm about to say will get spinned into me not being able to handle the truth but seriously - Butter shut up. Your failure to see that you are completely destroying ISS' reputation (you're not in ISS yes, but everyone knows your an ISS-pendulum (tick tock anyone?)) is amazing. It was fun at first, but now... well you're truely turning into the new laughing stock of the EvE-forums. Sad to see someone that I once held at quite high regards fail completely ____________ The Priory Killboard
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:26:00 - [287] awww cute some tyrell attempting to regain some of their non existent glory
Harum Skarum Minmatar Committee for Subversive Decoration	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:26:00 - [288] Apart from maybe LV and some random catch/providence carebear corps, who would actually care about IAC taking the ISS outposts? Everyone who actually matters and doesnt shoot ISS anyway seems to be busy defending their own space at the moment.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:47:00 - [289] Well, I have a covert in F4 and have witnessed a joint PRI/IAC gatecamp shooting neutral haulers 2006.12.11 19:38:00 Notify mirem [R M N]<IAC>(Thorax) has started trying to warp scramble Helga Potake [DLI](Iteron Mark IV) Nice, IAC. Good to see you are basically just common pirates now. Shouldnt you issue a statement to that effect?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:50:00 - [290] Originally by: maGz I don't know why I bother as what I'm about to say will get spinned into me not being able to handle the truth but seriously - Butter shut up. Your failure to see that you are completely destroying ISS' reputation (you're not in ISS yes, but everyone knows your an ISS-pendulum (tick tock anyone?)) is amazing. It was fun at first, but now... well you're truely turning into the new laughing stock of the EvE-forums. Sad to see someone that I once held at quite high regards fail completely The only laughing stock here is SOD jumping all over this thread at every opportunity, then claiming they have nothing to do with it. And, well, I'm hardly suprised if anyone in SOD or IAC say what you have said about me in this thread. Its to be expected.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:50:00 - [291] Edited by: Layla Currie on 11/12/2006 19:54:55 Originally by: Butter Dog Well, I have a covert in F4 and have witnessed a joint PRI/IAC gatecamp shooting neutral haulers 2006.12.11 19:38:00 Notify mirem [R M N]<IAC>(Thorax) has started trying to warp scramble Helga Potake [DLI](Iteron Mark IV) Nice, IAC. Good to see you are basically just common pirates now. Shouldnt you issue a statement to that effect? iac takes on nbsi when they enter a conflict close to their home. One jump is quite close to their home yah? That hauler could be ferrying supplies to ISS or that corp might be red to iac. You don't know the politics involved you're just running your mouth. I love how you start your spin from calling iac bullies to now pirates. You're a class act and a reason why no one likes iss and we never said we don't care about the conflict. We are friends with IAC so we very much care about what happens to them. IAC has made it perfectly clear in this thread they value our friendship over the useless token friendship iss gave them
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:56:00 - [292] Originally by: Layla Currie a reason why no one likes iss Quoted for later funnyness
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:00:00 - [293] Originally by: Sgt Napalm Originally by: Layla Currie a reason why no one likes iss Quoted for later funnyness ok let me change it, "why anyone besides MC and LV does not like iss"
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:00:00 - [294] Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch Originally by: ReaperOfSly Ye gods, people. Can we just stop the smack. I know I don't personally hate any IAC, let's just shoot each other. Oh and please please PLEASE let this keep going for at least 2 weeks. I get to fly my thanatos in 11 days and I want to christen it properly Update your clone. Retraining for a cap ship takes longer than retraining for an ishtar Bah, I didn't think anyone but CONIN knew about that --------------------------------------------------------------------
Witch Doctor Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:05:00 - [295] I love stupendously agitated forum wars as much as the next *****, but man - more shooting, please, and updates on the shooting. This war has great potential, but so far the forum smack and lies/propoganda is a yawner. Someone blinky Seleene's wallet, too, please. End the speculation and help us lock up some work to keep us busy through to the new year.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:06:00 - [296] Originally by: Layla Currie Edited by: Layla Currie on 11/12/2006 19:54:55 Originally by: Butter Dog Well, I have a covert in F4 and have witnessed a joint PRI/IAC gatecamp shooting neutral haulers 2006.12.11 19:38:00 Notify mirem [R M N]<IAC>(Thorax) has started trying to warp scramble Helga Potake [DLI](Iteron Mark IV) Nice, IAC. Good to see you are basically just common pirates now. Shouldnt you issue a statement to that effect? iac takes on nbsi when they enter a conflict close to their home. One jump is quite close to their home yah? That hauler could be ferrying supplies to ISS or that corp might be red to iac. You don't know the politics involved you're just running your mouth. I love how you start your spin from calling iac bullies to now pirates. You're a class act and a reason why no one likes iss and we never said we don't care about the conflict. We are friends with IAC so we very much care about what happens to them. IAC has made it perfectly clear in this thread they value our friendship over the useless token friendship iss gave them Dear Priory Alt, You are remarkably keen to carry on posting considering that, apparently PRI have nothing to do with this. That aside, IAC have not declared NBSI yet, and if they are going to, should they not start now? And I understand that F4 was excluded from the IAC NBSI zone last time. This is a war THEY chose, completely different to the time when they were under siege from McFix. As for the hauler moving supplies to ISS, it was heading toward Empire.
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:08:00 - [297] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hoshi About 10 dreads where deployed and all 3 medium moon mining posses with token guns you had as defence where put in reinforced. It could been done without dreads if that you are getting at. About 5 large deathstar posses where put up but they where unanchord before they had a chance to claim soverginity as the whole affair where resolved in less than 24h. Large POS were up and running, and you guys zerged in 5 large POS. We then went and got 10 large POS (I remember as I escorted the freighter from Agil) which we started to deploy with you in system. Not that it matters, these events were so long ago and ISS's capability and entire strategies when it comes to system defence have completely changed. Well all posses you had in system where put in reinforced because you lost soverginity and the patch so that new towers don't claim soverginity until after 5 days where deployed several months before (RMR). I know you lost soverginity because I took a few potshots at the station after downtime. It's possible that one of the posses might have been a large but it was not a deathstar. Just face is it, you screwed up with the defences of that system. I don't know why, maybe someone removed their posses or what ever but there where no defences to talk about when we scouted it out and assaulted it. I would assume it's better defended today so it's not like it really matters. Just want accuracy for the history books :) ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:09:00 - [298] Originally by: Witch Doctor I love stupendously agitated forum wars as much as the next *****, but man - more shooting, please, and updates on the shooting. This war has great potential, but so far the forum smack and lies/propoganda is a yawner. Someone blinky Seleene's wallet, too, please. End the speculation and help us lock up some work to keep us busy through to the new year. TBH i hope seleene's wallet does flash cause it would be humorous to see you guys try again.
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:13:00 - [299] Originally by: Witch Doctor more shooting, please, and updates on the shooting. This war has great potential Both sides had great fights last night. ISS had a blob, IAC had a blob. We fought and had fun. Combat was mostly based on A) Who controlled the station in ZXIC and B) Who controlled the ZXIC > KDF gate. The smack was light to zero in local, it appears most smack is just on the forums. Good fights so far (except for losing my Harpy ). I expect a nasty one tonight with Goonswarm getting involved. Sarge Out
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:49:00 - [300] Originally by: Butter Dog You are remarkably keen to carry on posting considering that, apparently PRI have nothing to do with this. And I have been wondering since the start of this thread, what, exactly you have to do with this...? Am I reading the corp ticker wrong? Or maybe please, by all means, join the ranks of ISS again. I would love to see you on my overview <insert clichTd "and who are you?" comment here> (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 20:51:00 - [301] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Butter Dog You are remarkably keen to carry on posting considering that, apparently PRI have nothing to do with this. And I have been wondering since the start of this thread, what, exactly you have to do with this...? Am I reading the corp ticker wrong? Or maybe please, by all means, join the ranks of ISS again. I would love to see you on my overview <insert clichTd "and who are you?" comment here> But bitterdog is a very important person! oh wait i think in his case VIP stands for very impotent person as his whole commentary is quite flacid.
xh'duality Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:07:00 - [302] Edited by: xh''duality on 11/12/2006 21:09:07 ISS cant say they didnt help MC. They let em use the Station's for deployment. ISS talk's always how they dont help friendly's to kill friendly's. Yet after they knew MC was attacking us they never sayed anythign about NO you are not allowed to use us to deplay an attack on our friendly's. Meaning pretty much ISS helped MC to go up against us in a way of coward's. ISS are backstarber's all the way. Alway's been and it's time to put a stop to it. They will backstab anyone for theyre own good and we dont need and allied like that. And no we dont kill neutral's unless theure in an npc corp wich is 80% of time a alt for scouting/spying or so. --------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON"]
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:11:00 - [303] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Originally by: Georgik Sojik Good showing so far May the best alliance win Tycho and Marginis. although I'm no official IAC Diplomat, I believe we'll have the same deal with the shareholders as ISS once had with you Just to clarify a few things for our members and others. We are not at this moment actively engageing ISS's stations or POS's. More fights like the one we ad to day are what we seek, though time will only tell who will own what station when. Probably when you have more then 2 Drednaught Pilots on at any given time. (sorry couldn't resist. :) _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:18:00 - [304] It is truely sad that the forum warrior / champion of ISS is a low security pirate who only engages pilots who have yet to pop their cherry. Anyway at this point, gl to both sides. I only speak for myself and this statement does not in anyway reflect the opinion of the CVA. Sig Removed because of its offensive nature and not eve related - Karl Chroimcer ([email protected])
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:23:00 - [305] Originally by: Eveliddia It is truely sad that the forum warrior / champion of ISS is a low security pirate who only engages pilots who have yet to pop their cherry. Anyway at this point, gl to both sides. I only speak for myself and this statement does not in anyway reflect the opinion of the CVA. Naah, most of the rest realise that participating in a flamewar in C&A just makes everyone look like morons.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:26:00 - [306] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Butter Dog You are remarkably keen to carry on posting considering that, apparently PRI have nothing to do with this. And I have been wondering since the start of this thread, what, exactly you have to do with this...? Am I reading the corp ticker wrong? Or maybe please, by all means, join the ranks of ISS again. I would love to see you on my overview Well I've been sitting in F4 with an alt in a covert for the best part of 4 hours (his bio reads 'Butter Dogs Alt', for clarity). Even then a director from IAC convo'd me to ask why I was in IAC space, lol. So in case you could not yet work it out, I am firmly on the side of ISS. Unlike ISS, though, I am not currently bound by their 'no forum posts' rule. However, just because I don't have ISS on my alliance ticker doesnt mean I'm not helping them in any other way I can. Some in ISS are aware of what I am doing for them over the coming days, most arent, and neither are you. But believe me when I say it is a significant contribution, and I am 100% committed to assiting ISS in this war. Does this provide some clarity as to why I am posting? Mainly: because I can.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:27:00 - [307] Originally by: Eveliddia It is truely sad that the forum warrior / champion of ISS is a low security pirate who only engages pilots who have yet to pop their cherry. Anyway at this point, gl to both sides. I only speak for myself and this statement does not in anyway reflect the opinion of the CVA. Really? Like you and your corpmates? I seem to have your killmail somewhere... And I'm not 'champion of ISS', I'm just not bound by their no-posting rule.
Lilan Kahn Amarr ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:27:00 - [308] Originally by: Eveliddia It is truely sad that the forum warrior / champion of ISS is a low security pirate who only engages pilots who have yet to pop their cherry. Anyway at this point, gl to both sides. I only speak for myself and this statement does not in anyway reflect the opinion of the CVA. Check check. you cant mine on the forums so why bother ? btw tea party i kdf cookies and cake in local, he who has the bigest mining rateing wins! Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
IntegralHellsing Gallente The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:33:00 - [309] Originally by: Butter Dog Well I've been sitting in F4 with an alt in a covert for the best part of 4 hours (his bio reads 'Butter Dogs Alt', for clarity). Even then a director from IAC convo'd me to ask why I was in IAC space, lol. Maybe they don't know 'Butter Dog the Magnus'? ------------------------------
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:34:00 - [310] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Eveliddia It is truely sad that the forum warrior / champion of ISS is a low security pirate who only engages pilots who have yet to pop their cherry. Anyway at this point, gl to both sides. I only speak for myself and this statement does not in anyway reflect the opinion of the CVA. Check check. you cant mine on the forums so why bother ? btw tea party i kdf cookies and cake in local, he who has the bigest mining rateing wins! much <3 for lilan!
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:36:00 - [311] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Originally by: Butter Dog Well I've been sitting in F4 with an alt in a covert for the best part of 4 hours (his bio reads 'Butter Dogs Alt', for clarity). Even then a director from IAC convo'd me to ask why I was in IAC space, lol. Maybe they don't know 'Butter Dog the Magnus'? perhaps... btw, F4 was really dull though I managed to get one IAC member to sing 'Locomotion' with me
Crozon Crozon Corp	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:45:00 - [312] Originally by: xh'duality Edited by: xh''duality on 11/12/2006 21:09:07 ISS cant say they didnt help MC. They let em use the Station's for deployment. ISS talk's always how they dont help friendly's to kill friendly's. Yet after they knew MC was attacking us they never sayed anythign about NO you are not allowed to use us to deplay an attack on our friendly's. Meaning pretty much ISS helped MC to go up against us in a way of coward's. I'm guessing that you didn't bother reading the first ten pages of this thread (tbh, I don't blame you). ISS was not aware of MC's plan, MC are very good at keeping secrets that way. They were asked to move out of ISS stations when ISS Management became aware of the situation. This is confirmed by Fix/Mc/ISS. If you choose not to believe it, that is up to you. The new ISS charter even specifically mentions this situation if it were to ever crop up again, and things would be very different if it were to happen again. I have personal connections to ISS and to a corp in IAC (who I was considering rejoining until this happened). ISS have done the best they can, IAC are the ones backstabbing a neighbour. ISS are bound by their charter, so much so that they were unable to help a friend in need (IAC), does the fact they changed their charter so they could help in future not say anything about the merit and integrity of ISS?
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 22:03:00 - [313] Originally by: Butter Dog So in case you could not yet work it out, I am firmly on the side of ISS. Unlike ISS, though, I am not currently bound by their 'no forum posts' rule. blah blah blah Does this provide some clarity as to why I am posting? Mainly: because I can. Duh. Is the main thrust of your "significant contribution" steeped deep in forum warfare? Cause that about all it seems to be for now... other than flying around cloaked and gathering intel Just one request: come out in something I can shoot at... cause all this rabble rabble of yours just serves to give headaches. (combat) Your Inferno Torpedo hits Taisu Magdesh, doing 604.5 damage.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 22:46:00 - [314] Originally by: Toman Torax Duh. Is the main thrust of your "significant contribution" steeped deep in forum warfare? Cause that about all it seems to be for now... other than flying around cloaked and gathering intel Just one request: come out in something I can shoot at... cause all this rabble rabble of yours just serves to give headaches. Request Denied.
Marovinchian Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.11 22:53:00 - [315] i started trying to count butter dogs post in this thread, then i ran out of appendages, then i got bored...........
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 22:55:00 - [316] Originally by: Marovinchian i started trying to count butter dogs post in this thread, then i ran out of appendages, then i got bored........... Try just counting the posts with substance. Youll find its easier. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:19:00 - [317] Edited by: Silvestri on 11/12/2006 23:29:43 Edited by: Silvestri on 11/12/2006 23:28:54 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. hmmmmmm....let me see if I can answer that ?.....oh yeah it's a war dec in 0.0...so it was announced....yeah, that normally happens on the eve-o forums....our bad. Butter dog...you need to get laid bro....I have never seen so much posting from one character in a game in my life...The words you use to defend every little thing is a riot. Like I said....it's two big brothers that just need to throw some punches and get the grudges over....ppl look into it like it's the end of the world....I'm going home to get laid for you bro....I'll ask my gf to scream butter dog first....k?
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:33:00 - [318] Originally by: Silvestri Edited by: Silvestri on 11/12/2006 23:29:43 Edited by: Silvestri on 11/12/2006 23:28:54 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 18:35:06 Originally by: Itaro Flagg Enough chatter then Butter. Get your tag fixed, and either put up or shut up. No matter how hard you forum *****, it isn't going to stop a fleet. The real fighting goes on in game, the forums are just pre-gaming. You know as well as me that public perception counts. Why else did IAC start this thread? Oh, but now IAC are being exposed for what they are, you want to stop talking all of a sudden. Quelle suprise. hmmmmmm....let me see if I can answer that ?.....oh yeah it's a war dec in 0.0...so it was announced....yeah, that normally happens on the eve-o forums....our bad. Butter dog...you need to get laid bro....I have never seen so much posting from one character in a game in my life...The words you use to defend every little thing is a riot. Like I said....it's two big brothers that just need to throw some punches and get the grudges over....ppl look into it like it's the end of the world....I'm going home to get laid for you bro....I'll ask my gf to scream butter dog first....k? And you make you or our alliance look any better by issueing a personal attack on someone? Just shut up unless you have something constructive to post.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:42:00 - [319] I always find that when people resort to personal attacks, its because they feel they have lost the arguement.
shadyfox99 Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:44:00 - [320] Originally by: Cicilus Hadrican 4. In the same MCFIX timeframe, out of mutual repect of each other, SNIGG and Priory decide they rather see IAC in Catch and aid IAC in fighting MCFIX. ISS is warned on countless times to not fire on SNIGG and Priory since they are temporary blue for defense at the time. (even AFTER Priory becomes IAC themselves!) ISS continuely violates pleas to not engage allys that have agreed not to fire on ISS. Err, just a few things. (And i was in SNIGG during this timeframe, so please dont flame me for being in MC.) SNIGG didn't join in because of "Mutual Respect for each other" we joined in because IAC PAID us to join in. But yes, ISS stood inbetween us and getting to the main IAC and friends fleet in Catch on atleast one occasion that i can think of. We ended up jumping in to them, taking a few losses, killing a fair amount of them and then pushing on. But anyway, the past is past, good luck to both sides, and have fun!
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:52:00 - [321] From a standpoint of a neighbor who has helped escort ISS haulers when there were hostiles around in our space, IÆm saddened that it has come to this. As a member of IAC who witnessed ISS pilots shadowing McFix usually going in and out of gates multiple times when brawls were about to begin, I n just shrug and go on. That was the past. I look forward to the fight and I hope it stays fun. I carry no personal grudge against ISS. o/ gl Free beer at G-7!!! Drinks are on me! Let get sloshed and drunkswarm!!! **2 hours of reading at work to get to this point. I refuse to engage in any arguing or 'correcting'. "Arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics"
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.12 00:46:00 - [322] Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/12/2006 00:47:44 I have to say, that one thing which comes through from the posts of the 'rank and file' IAC members is that their leadership is; - Lying to them about the reasons for war - Going against their best interests in setting such a large neighbour to -10 when such a course of action wasnt needed If you want to play power politics with 1500 miners and young industrialists, at least have the decency to tell them your true motives. Its their game you're effecting. But the real crime here is the damage to IAC's reputation. When big carebear alliances start pretending they have teeth, bad things tend to happen.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 01:27:00 - [323] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/12/2006 00:47:44 I have to say, that one thing which comes through from the posts of the 'rank and file' IAC members is that their leadership is; - Lying to them about the reasons for war - Going against their best interests in setting such a large neighbour to -10 when such a course of action wasnt needed If you want to play power politics with 1500 miners and young industrialists, at least have the decency to tell them your true motives. Its their game you're effecting. But the real crime here is the damage to IAC's reputation. When big carebear alliances start pretending they have teeth, bad things tend to happen. Lieing to the rank and file? I have had to hold back the rank and file for MONTHS against going to war against ISS. And as for being Carebears, Bears still have claws.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.12 01:58:00 - [324] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Lieing to the rank and file? I have had to hold back the rank and file for MONTHS against going to war against ISS. And as for being Carebears, Bears still have claws. Yeah, Xetic thought that, didnt they. Know your place is all I'm saying. ISS certainly know theirs. You guys arent particularly high in the foodchain, you don't need to make more enemies. Escpecially after ISS changed the charter recently so they COULD assist you next time you were attacked. How many other alliances do you know, who would change the whole way they operate based on the feedback of others? Most are too arrogant or belligerent. I think your problem is that you don't know what good neighbours ISS are to have, compared to what COULD be there in their place.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 02:46:00 - [325] Butter ... enough lamo forum posts. You love ISS so much, join up and help them rather sitting on the sidelines, making stupid claims and embarassing yourself.
Tenaka Kahn Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.12 03:06:00 - [326] /me wants to come back to curse. this is awseome, its like curse is trapped in a hyperbolic chamber and nothing changes. 5 Billion isk and i'll come fly for whatever side and laugh the whole way. keep up the good reads. <3 Curse region
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.12.12 03:10:00 - [327] Edited by: Kristoffer on 12/12/2006 03:12:15 Edited by: Kristoffer on 12/12/2006 03:10:52 Man, this is just like the old days. Its awesome. All the old firmilar faces... I miss it. Butter, you haven't changed at all. Now that CC is gone and CDC gone from the region, its funny how IAC has became the new local pirate alliance. Man... IAC, congratulations for the new title. Your following in our footsteps \o/
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 03:58:00 - [328] IAC knows our place, and our place is shooting ISS. We already have standings with just about every major alliance in this universe and NONE of them have changed standings based on our actions. And as for the accusations of being a "pirate alliance", all i can say is: Yarr.
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 04:12:00 - [329] PWNT
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 04:35:00 - [330] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/12/2006 12:03:22 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk IAC is not particularly interested in taking those two outposts, but that could change easily enough Georgik is wrong, if we did do so there would be no deal with the current shareholders. I'm going to tell you hear and now: you couldn't take them even if you wanted to. If you tried, you'd lose all your dreads. IAC should be ashamed of their utter lack of balls. You lie about your reasons for war, and now you shy away from anything remotely challenging. Please do atttempt to take the outposts. Go right ahead. I'll gain much satisfaction reading all your dread killmails on the ISS board. I used to fight alongside IAC, and I can count the number of decent FC's you have on one hand - zero. Though I'm sure your pirate friends who live next door (very fitting with your free space ideals) could help you out there. Hey dude..erm...STFU
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 04:38:00 - [331] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 12/12/2006 04:38:02 Originally by: DHB FooFighter We already have standings with just about every major alliance in this universe and NONE of them have changed standings based on our actions. Well, that's not exactly true. If I were ISS, I'd be worried. Yarr
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 05:54:00 - [332] Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 12/12/2006 05:54:20 Dear ISS. Please stop sitting docked or at a pos for hours on end, or I will be forced to release the almighty Jim Lovell upon thee and may God have mercy on your souls! yarr
Terra Alnilam Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 08:31:00 - [333] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 12/12/2006 05:54:20 Dear ISS. Please stop sitting docked or at a pos for hours on end, or I will be forced to release the almighty Jim Lovell upon thee and may God have mercy on your souls! yarr And don't nobody take that threat lightly. Any man capable of this is to be taken very, very cautiously.
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2006.12.12 09:38:00 - [334] Originally by: Butter Dog The only people I see here posting in support of IAC are SOD, IAC, and their alts with little exclamation marks. There are 15m+ SP characters with !, shrieking about being surrounded by alts purely because of their picture is idiotic until the fix the damned portrait generator. Also, I imagine Butter Dog will be eating quite a few of his words from this thread. Assuming, of course, he actually gets into an engagement somewhere other than on the forums. Oh, and, yes, you are making ISS look bad, which is impressive considering that ISSN already does a very good job of that.
Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:09:00 - [335] Lets just have fun pewpewing, each in their own different way \o/ -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:14:00 - [336] Originally by: DHB FooFighter IAC knows our place, and our place is shooting ISS. Simplicity 4TW. - Fight the Darkness!
Frools The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:40:00 - [337] Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 12/12/2006 05:54:20 Dear ISS. Please stop sitting docked or at a pos for hours on end, or I will be forced to release the almighty Jim Lovell upon thee and may God have mercy on your souls! yarr good lord iac are not playing around if the Lovell is being prepared
sbaker Amarr Bogans INC	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:43:00 - [338] Edited by: sbaker on 12/12/2006 10:44:13 Good Luck, IAC... I hope its goes all well... SB P.S NOT JIM LOVELL!!!!! oh no.... he is soo crazy miss him alot Some people have Music or MP3....I collect EvE videos that I watch during downtime...oh well... My top 5 videos and worst top 5 videos coming soon!.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:52:00 - [339] Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/12/2006 10:52:23 Originally by: n sx Butter ... enough lamo forum posts. You love ISS so much, join up and help them rather sitting on the sidelines, making stupid claims and embarassing yourself. Who is making stupid claims here... judge for yourself: IAC: 'ISS building POS in their own outpost system is an act of aggression' Me: 'ISS changed their charter so they could help you in the event of an attack, its unlikely they want war' Frankly it doesnt take a genius to work out who is talking crap here, and its not me. As for 'sitting on the sidelines', thats news to me. I support ISS. I've done that in-game by providing intel from my covert stationed in your space, and by procuring 14bn ISK worth of T2 ships and PvP mods in KDF to assist their war effort. Hardly sitting on the sideline, is it.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 10:56:00 - [340] Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 12/12/2006 11:04:48 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/12/2006 10:52:23 Originally by: n sx Butter ... enough lamo forum posts. You love ISS so much, join up and help them rather sitting on the sidelines, making stupid claims and embarassing yourself. Who is making stupid claims here... judge for yourself: IAC: 'ISS building POS in their own outpost system is an act of aggression' Me: 'ISS changed their charter so they could help you in the event of an attack, its unlikely they want war' Frankly it doesnt take a genius to work out who is talking crap here, and its not me. As for 'sitting on the sidelines', thats news to me. I support ISS. I've done that in-game by providing intel from my covert stationed in your space, and by procuring 14bn ISK worth of T2 ships and PvP mods in KDF to assist their war effort. Hardly sitting on the sideline, is it. Would you shut up if I said we are only shooting ISS because the voices told me so? The real reason why IAC shoosted ISS Oh and as for your 14 billion, 6 of that has gone up in smoke already And in case i haven't clarified yet, im a dirty pirate. yarr
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.12 11:04:00 - [341] Can we stop smacking each other with arguments that for the majority are wrong? POINT: IAC setten ISS to -10 for "unknown reasons" (i dont know the reasons myselve ..) POINT: IAC seems to enjoy it POINT: whatever the reason is behind this change of standing, you follow your leader or you desert. some already did this by the way! difficult .. we go to war each day because some nublet shotten at waywatcher, we never know why, but we pwn em hard, do you see them whining on the forum that its all a conspiracy theory? Now, enjoy what we have or leave. Every person that posts any more "war argument conspiracy theory all lies" stuff after this post should get a mod stamp of "tard". Gutsani, over and out. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.12 12:16:00 - [342] O.k i think this has gone on long enough. The Announcement has been made and well discussed, degrading into arguing and flaming and nothing new being added Click locked. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long


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