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Count TaSessine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:43:00 - [1] Edited by: Count TaSessine on 10/12/2006 23:46:43 In the 17 months since ISS was conceived, we have constructed six public and two private outposts in different parts of Eve. We are now taking the next step in 0.0 economics, Both politically and functionally. We are selling shares in ISS itself - we are going public with the alliance. For the ISS it is a logical step and we believe it is the first time a player driven entity in any MMO become truly community owned. You can be part of this unique venture in Eve-Online. The buyers of these shares become owners of the alliance and will receive monthly dividends of minimum 5%. The goals of this initiative are: - Create wealth to the shareholders, ISS owners, by taking advantage of the economies and logistics of scale accessible only by an entity of the size and narrow focus of ISS - Reinforce the commercial success of the existing 6 public ISS outposts. - Continue to cultivate and bring capitalism to the frontier by building more public outposts in under utilised areas of space To bring these goals to life we are selling fifty thousand shares, each worth 10m ISK, to be put up for sale on Dec 10th 2006. We are guaranteeing monthly dividends of 5%, and have created a business plan for the new ISS, which we believe will over time will ensure a return on investment in excess of 10%. See www.eve-iss.com/ISSO on how to buy. www.eve-iss.com/isso Chairman, ISS
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:43:00 - [2] 6 Months in the making, 2 charter revisions in preparation ... it's finally arrived :) Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/12/2006 00:03:49 5 0 0 b i l l i o n ?! Note to the noobs: the above is a link. Note to the l33t h4xors, the above is stupidly complicated forumcode... hover over the various letters to see what I mean. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Tami Auryn Natural Evolution	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:47:00 - [4] Yup my calculator confirms 500b IPO OMG that's the biggest thing since ... never BMBE ISK Loans
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:49:00 - [5] good lord.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:51:00 - [6] Edited by: Nyphur on 10/12/2006 23:51:38 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/12/2006 23:48:54 500 billion?! Worth the wait, huh? were you thinking you'd be able to buy all the shared? ;D EDIT: Oi, those are links you sneaky brat :D Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Aeleva Caldari Hegemonic Core Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:01:00 - [7] Well its really nice to see how well ISS has done, all the work count has put in back from the conception of the idea back in HC. Best of luck to you with this, a rather impressive sum of isk to be sure :)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:07:00 - [8] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/12/2006 00:14:13 By the way, STUFF is happy to supply ISS with bulk T2 items in Jita if necessary. Contact Yukari Tanizaki -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
SibSpi	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:19:00 - [9] Question: This is my first time investing here in EVE, and I'm not completely accustom to the normal, given rules. But my corporation (probably) has really bad standings with ISS, I'm asking if I can individually invest even though our relationship standings may be bad. Thanks.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:21:00 - [10] Originally by: SibSpi Question: This is my first time investing here in EVE, and I'm not completely accustom to the normal, given rules. But my corporation (probably) has really bad standings with ISS, I'm asking if I can individually invest even though our relationship standings may be bad. Thanks. ISS has bad standings towards you, or your corp has bad standings towards ISS? -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!

SibSpi	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: SibSpi Question: This is my first time investing here in EVE, and I'm not completely accustom to the normal, given rules. But my corporation (probably) has really bad standings with ISS, I'm asking if I can individually invest even though our relationship standings may be bad. Thanks. ISS has bad standings towards you, or your corp has bad standings towards ISS? ISS to us. We shot people
Stins ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:23:00 - [12] Originally by: SibSpi Question: This is my first time investing here in EVE, and I'm not completely accustom to the normal, given rules. But my corporation (probably) has really bad standings with ISS, I'm asking if I can individually invest even though our relationship standings may be bad. Thanks. This IPO is open to all pod pilots, being them hostile to ISS or not.
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:24:00 - [13] ISS is a business entity and as such we will happily sell shares to those that attack us. For relavence, we have many investors in the outposts that are unable to dock due to being hostile to us. To also aleviate fears, politcal standings do not effect share payouts. Even if you're -10, you'll still get your share of the dividends.
SibSpi	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Stins Originally by: SibSpi Question: This is my first time investing here in EVE, and I'm not completely accustom to the normal, given rules. But my corporation (probably) has really bad standings with ISS, I'm asking if I can individually invest even though our relationship standings may be bad. Thanks. This IPO is open to all pod pilots, being them hostile to ISS or not. Thanks. 1bill invested. makes note to try to not shoot ISS haulers as much
Thetis Caldari NewDawn	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:29:00 - [15] This is a very interesting proposal... Its also a huge amount of isk. The greedy side of me is wondering, you appear to have capped the returns to shareholders at 5%/month. What happens if the profits exceed expectations, and you end up with more than the 15% ROI indicated on your proposal, would the proportion paid to shareholders increase, or would it all simply be channeled into the black hole of 'ISS Ventures'?
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:42:00 - [16] Edited by: Nyphur on 11/12/2006 00:43:13 Originally by: Thetis The greedy side of me is wondering, you appear to have capped the returns to shareholders at 5%/month. What happens if the profits exceed expectations, and you end up with more than the 15% ROI indicated on your proposal We haven't capped the return at 5%, we are guaranteeing at least 5% and this may well increase to over 10% over time as projects get established. It's all on the website linked in the first post :). EDIT: And yes, that's isk paid to shareholders. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Thetis Caldari NewDawn	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 11/12/2006 00:43:13 Originally by: Thetis snip We haven't capped the return at 5%, we are guaranteeing at least 5% and this may well increase to over 10% over time as projects get established. It's all on the website linked in the first post :). EDIT: And yes, that's isk paid to shareholders. Thanks, It appears I mis-understood the information on Page 10.
Ferrosa Gallente Lyonesse Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:52:00 - [18] I'll just go ahead and ask a 'Dark Shikari' question here: Why would we entrust you with such a large sum of ISK, what have you guys done in the past 200M sent Official broker at the EvE Galactic Stock Exchange
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:54:00 - [19] Edited by: Nyphur on 11/12/2006 01:06:43 Originally by: Thetis Thanks, It appears I mis-understood the information on Page 10. Don't take my word for it, I'm still reading it myself. I'll try to get someone like Count to respond for you but we're all quite busy at the moment. EDIT: heyyy, I'm not assistant editor of EON, I'm voluntary assistant editor of the Insider's Guide section of EON :D. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Ferrosa I'll just go ahead and ask a 'Dark Shikari' question here: Why would we entrust you with such a large sum of ISK, what have you guys done in the past 200M sent It is actually a good question. While in the past, no single person has had access to over a few 10s of billions, now someone will have access to 500 billion--something that would make even the most trustworthy players flinch. Will the ISK be sent piecewise to the various projects as it comes in, or will you wait until the full 500b investment comes in, which will probably take a few months? -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!

SencneS Amarr Keepers of the Holy Bagel	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:17:00 - [21] With the information that has been freely given to me, some of your outposts are probably under threat, maybe the point of you losing them. I've also been told you hire Merc to defend your shippments and bases, just how much of this investment will go towards defence or is that handled by other income?
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Dark Shikari It is actually a good question. While in the past, no single person has had access to over a few 10s of billions, now someone will have access to 500 billion--something that would make even the most trustworthy players flinch. Will the ISK be sent piecewise to the various projects as it comes in, or will you wait until the full 500b investment comes in, which will probably take a few months? You mean will we compartmentalise the isk to reduce the already negligible risk of betrayal in the high ranks of ISS? I just spoke to Count TaSessine and that's confirmed, the isk is sent out to individual projects and shopping baskets etc as it comes in. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Count TaSessine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Ferrosa I'll just go ahead and ask a 'Dark Shikari' question here: Why would we entrust you with such a large sum of ISK, what have you guys done in the past 200M sent It is actually a good question. While in the past, no single person has had access to over a few 10s of billions, now someone will have access to 500 billion--something that would make even the most trustworthy players flinch. Will the ISK be sent piecewise to the various projects as it comes in, or will you wait until the full 500b investment comes in, which will probably take a few months? Hi Dark Yes, thats why the management team is presented in the documentation. We're going to parcel out the shopping baskets as they come in to the relevant station managers (and we've all met in RL btw) to handle. We have a online web reporting tool for the accountancy to keep track of cash flow. Chairman, ISS
Kaylanar Ortan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:34:00 - [24] What is the open vote on the shares for? Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies
Count TaSessine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:36:00 - [25] Originally by: SencneS With the information that has been freely given to me, some of your outposts are probably under threat, maybe the point of you losing them. I've also been told you hire Merc to defend your shippments and bases, just how much of this investment will go towards defence or is that handled by other income? Yes, IAC have set us -10. It's very disappointing and incomprehensible. Anyway this kind of thing happens (sometimes), but all costs which may be incurred by this event can be covered by our current liquid assets. Chairman, ISS
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:45:00 - [26] This is incredibly ambitious. One clarification; The profits derived from the already publically owned Outposts are not included in the profits for this venture correct? Or is any percentage of those profits that goes to ISS itself included? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Block Ukx	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:49:00 - [27] Minimum investment 20 shares @ 10,000,000 = 200,000,000. Am I Correct?
Elmar Solderi Gallente N4S	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Baun This is incredibly ambitious. One clarification; The profits derived from the already publically owned Outposts are not included in the profits for this venture correct? Or is any percentage of those profits that goes to ISS itself included? the current outposts are buissness as useally btw ffs some one make cassini shares worth while
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:59:00 - [29] Originally by: Elmar Solderi Originally by: Baun This is incredibly ambitious. One clarification; The profits derived from the already publically owned Outposts are not included in the profits for this venture correct? Or is any percentage of those profits that goes to ISS itself included? the current outposts are buissness as useally btw ffs some one make cassini shares worth while That doesnt actually answer my question. Let me restate? 1) Do any profits from the current public outposts go to ISS as an alliance? 2) If so are those included in the offering? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Serenity Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:11:00 - [30] Originally by: SencneS With the information that has been freely given to me, some of your outposts are probably under threat, maybe the point of you losing them. I've also been told you hire Merc to defend your shippments and bases, just how much of this investment will go towards defence or is that handled by other income? It is covered by other income, just like a large portion of the monthly dividends is already covered by existing ISS activities, without yet working the IPO capital. Eve Strategic Maps - Outpost Alert



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