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Setana Manoro
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 25/12/2006 05:42:01
Originally by: Rawne Karrde Good Questions
I wish ISS had the nerve to answer your post. Right now investing in ISS IPO is about the dumbest move you could do.
And for the record Rawne... Bre-X is still around JZV and actually fighting vs ISS with IAC.
Meh, IAC lost a station, The Bottleshop. Did anyone else also got payed dividents ? --------------------------------------------------
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:59:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Setana Manoro
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 25/12/2006 05:42:01
Originally by: Rawne Karrde Good Questions
I wish ISS had the nerve to answer your post. Right now investing in ISS IPO is about the dumbest move you could do.
And for the record Rawne... Bre-X is still around JZV and actually fighting vs ISS with IAC.
Meh, IAC lost a station, The Bottleshop. Did anyone else also got payed dividents ?
ISS dosnt answer questions, they just give attitudes and act like they are God. This is why ISS is being attacked my multiple alliances now, if they would act as a Public IPO and take care of the publics thoughts and concerns I would invest myself, but they dont, which IMO is very bad. -----------------------------------------------
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.02 21:24:00 -
[183]
Edited by: Proton Power on 02/01/2007 21:27:21
Originally by: Halafian
Originally by: Proton Power
Originally by: Setana Manoro
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 25/12/2006 05:42:01
Originally by: Rawne Karrde Good Questions
I wish ISS had the nerve to answer your post. Right now investing in ISS IPO is about the dumbest move you could do.
And for the record Rawne... Bre-X is still around JZV and actually fighting vs ISS with IAC.
Meh, IAC lost a station, The Bottleshop. Did anyone else also got payed dividents ?
ISS dosnt answer questions, they just give attitudes and act like they are God. This is why ISS is being attacked my multiple alliances now, if they would act as a Public IPO and take care of the publics thoughts and concerns I would invest myself, but they dont, which IMO is very bad.
Wow, you sure aren't one to talk!
I spent the better part of two weeks trying to buy some bpos from you, and all I got were late replies, broken promises and missed deadlines.
Maybe you should get back to taking care of your own business, which seems disorganized and pretty out of control, before piling on ISS. They have a record of 18 months of running a business far larger and more complex than yours.
And for the record, this account of why ISS is being attacked is complete rubbish. ISS is being attacked because IAC wants ISS's assets. If you ever get to the point of having assets like that, you'll probably get attacked too. It's just what happens.
That is why I closed that part of PCT down as I posted in the thread. And When I do answer the questions I dont normally give lots of attitude and disrespect share holders. I answer the question.
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Proton Power
Amarr Power Corrupts Trading Inc Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.02 21:29:00 -
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One last reply here and then I am done.
I do respect ISS, and Understand how large of a thing they have going and how they started the IPO's. Please dont take my replie's as in I dislike them as a whole, I just dislike the smart comments when people ask simple questions like where do ship loss's come from. It was a simple question with a very simple answer. -----------------------------------------------
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:43:00 -
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The First Dividend has now been issued = 5% return per share. All shares paid for during the IPO closed period (last 15 days of the month) have been sent.
The IPO is now open again. New ISS IPO
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:20:00 -
[186]
All shares paid have been delivered at time of this post.
To see the share ticker, visit the ISSO website. New ISS IPO
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JP Moregain
Gallente EVE Reserve Bank
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Posted - 2007.01.05 15:17:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Serenity Steele
Originally by: JP Moregain Edited by: JP Moregain on 20/12/2006 22:38:11 Scenario Analysis: -Shares Issued -BoB attacks ISS (because they can and are bored)brings ISS operations to a halt and the shares plummet. -BoB buys a majority of the shares on the cheap and then ceases hostilities -ISS become the first true BoB slaves (sorry Xelas/Fix) Suggestion: make sure you have a lot of BoB investors up front. Sorry this is a bit "Gordon Gekko"-esqe Regards, JP
Scenario probability assessment: - Probability BoB attack 4 regions simultaneously to siege all ISS Outpost: Low - Probability BoB attack ISS Cassini, where they own shares: Why bother? - Probability BoB benefit strategicallly by taking ISS Outposts: Non-Existant
You are absolutely right Ms. Steele, Looks like D2 makes more sense...
Regards,
JP
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.05 15:28:00 -
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TBH wonder what ISS plan to do now. Seems BoB is really there only hope.
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:20:00 -
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Sooooo will the investors isk be returned or do you plan to run with it all?
Granted that ISS lose a large chunk of stations. ____________
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/01/2007 20:46:47
Originally by: maGz Sooooo will the investors isk be returned or do you plan to run with it all?
Granted that ISS lose a large chunk of stations.
Wait, hardly a shot has been fired and you're already asking whether investor ISK will be returned?
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/01/2007 20:46:47
Originally by: maGz Sooooo will the investors isk be returned or do you plan to run with it all?
Granted that ISS lose a large chunk of stations.
Wait, hardly a shot has been fired and you're already asking whether investor ISK will be returned?
Might want to check the amount of pilots in KDF/P-2/ZX...  ____________
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Ehrine Ashbark
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.06 00:06:00 -
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Just to remind people of what has been said repeatedly elsewhere - none of the isk invested in the latest IPO is affected by any of the recent developments. The "ISS" assets under attack are the various outpost constructed with isks from previous IPOs. If you actually read the prospectus for the new IPO you'll see that we're not using it to fund the old outposts, we've just been using the old outposts are market seeding grounds, markets we can use to increase our revenue for the new IPO. Even if we do lose those stations, the stock will still be on the market there. Nothing changes and the IPO will continue.
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David H'Levi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.06 01:40:00 -
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Sort of a shame to everyone who invested in ISS's outposts, because it looks like your shares might become worthless barring some unforseen and fortuitous events.
But they're right, this IPO is one built on two things:
1. Market baskets seeded to 0.0 regions. The existing baskets can continue selling from existing stations no matter how many times they change hands.
Worst case scenario, the sell of part of all of these baskets and then make more baskets for NPC stations.
2. Trust which ISS has (which is to say things like massive loans). Put enough money in their hands and they can find ways to make it pay off.
They're still proficient at operating out of 0.0 space effectively, efficiently and safely, even if they lose all their outposts.
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WhiskeyDP
The Druids
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Posted - 2007.01.06 13:35:00 -
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i seen nyphur a lot in this thread. is he involved in anyway? coz i think that the ppl should know that he used to escrow scam.
i know its late and dont know how the things are going but its lots of isk involved and i wouldnt trust even 1 isk in the hands of him ==================
=== eve is not all about isk, its about enjoying the game. lots of iskies is not the same as enjoying the game |

Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: WhiskeyDP i seen nyphur a lot in this thread. is he involved in anyway? coz i think that the ppl should know that he used to escrow scam.
i know its late and dont know how the things are going but its lots of isk involved and i wouldnt trust even 1 isk in the hands of him
Proof or stfu.
I'm tired of these stupid trolls coming here to gloat. Go do that in COAD.
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:13:00 -
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Proof has been posted several times 
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Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: solidshot
Proof has been posted several times 
So it should be easy for you to show it. Do so or stfu.
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 06/01/2007 16:23:43
Originally by: solidshot
Proof has been posted several times 
So it should be easy for you to show it. Do so or stfu.
I know what you are talking about -- and that wasn't Nyphur. Post your link from Eve Search, and then post Nyphur's replies.
Nyphur is not a scammer.
thread here now why don't you stfu if people in your alliance spent as much time fighting for it as you do whineing on the forums it wouldn't be in this much trouble..
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Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: solidshot
Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 06/01/2007 16:23:43
Originally by: solidshot
Proof has been posted several times 
So it should be easy for you to show it. Do so or stfu.
I know what you are talking about -- and that wasn't Nyphur. Post your link from Eve Search, and then post Nyphur's replies.
Nyphur is not a scammer.
thread here now why don't you stfu if people in your alliance spent as much time fighting for it as you do whineing on the forums it wouldn't be in this much trouble..
Yeah, and then read Nyphur's replies and link. You have nothing.
It is funny to see these anonymous alts start all this board trolling and come out of the woodwork only after D2, AAA, Goonfleet, IAC and all the rest have done the dirty work.
Anyway, no more replies to random trolls.
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solidshot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.01.06 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian
Originally by: solidshot
Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 06/01/2007 16:23:43
Originally by: solidshot
Proof has been posted several times 
So it should be easy for you to show it. Do so or stfu.
I know what you are talking about -- and that wasn't Nyphur. Post your link from Eve Search, and then post Nyphur's replies.
Nyphur is not a scammer.
thread here now why don't you stfu if people in your alliance spent as much time fighting for it as you do whineing on the forums it wouldn't be in this much trouble..
Yeah, and then read Nyphur's replies and link. You have nothing.
It is funny to see these anonymous alts start all this board trolling and come out of the woodwork only after D2, AAA, Goonfleet, IAC and all the rest have done the dirty work.
Anyway, no more replies to random trolls.
Just because someone denies it doesn't mean it isn't true also you should check who your calling an alt 
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WhiskeyDP
The Druids
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Posted - 2007.01.06 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian
Originally by: solidshot
Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 06/01/2007 16:23:43
Originally by: solidshot
Proof has been posted several times 
So it should be easy for you to show it. Do so or stfu.
I know what you are talking about -- and that wasn't Nyphur. Post your link from Eve Search, and then post Nyphur's replies.
Nyphur is not a scammer.
thread here now why don't you stfu if people in your alliance spent as much time fighting for it as you do whineing on the forums it wouldn't be in this much trouble..
Yeah, and then read Nyphur's replies and link. You have nothing.
It is funny to see these anonymous alts start all this board trolling and come out of the woodwork only after D2, AAA, Goonfleet, IAC and all the rest have done the dirty work.
Anyway, no more replies to random trolls.
wonder how many who have an 62m sp anonymous alt. last time someone called this char an alt was jimmysav 2 years ago i think.
i have fully respect for what iss have accomplished and i have done lots of business with them in the past but no matter how much scamming is allowed by ccp it doesnt go very well with having a "public person" like nyphur even in a thread like this if u want to be taken serious. ==================
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Dr Slaughter
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.07 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: WhiskeyDP -stuff- i have fully respect for what iss have accomplished and i have done lots of business with them in the past but no matter how much scamming is allowed by ccp it doesnt go very well with having a "public person" like nyphur even in a thread like this if u want to be taken serious.
Yeah libel is so common on these forums it's depressing
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WhiskeyDP
The Druids
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Posted - 2007.01.07 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter Yeah libel is so common on these forums it's depressing
scammers only have them selfs to blame ==================
=== eve is not all about isk, its about enjoying the game. lots of iskies is not the same as enjoying the game |

Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:07:00 -
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All shares delivered at time of this post.
As stated before, the ISSO IPO profitability and plan is uneffected by loss of any ISS Outpost. New ISS IPO
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:09:00 -
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One question to raise is maybe dividends will still be paid even if you lose the stations. But the image will be so tarnished that i see the desire to purchase iss shares going downhill very fast. Value on the shares will probably decrease to base value and in the end there is no real point on investing in ISS as the possibility for future profit by selling shares will be slim to none.
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.07 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan One question to raise is maybe dividends will still be paid even if you lose the stations. But the image will be so tarnished that i see the desire to purchase iss shares going downhill very fast. Value on the shares will probably decrease to base value and in the end there is no real point on investing in ISS as the possibility for future profit by selling shares will be slim to none.
For pilots only interested in speculation on short-term share price fluctuations, that is indeed a question to raise.
Investing in a 500bn ISK IPO is for people who want dividend returns on their otherwise Idle ISK, or are interested in seeing the market development of 0.0. New ISS IPO
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Alha Qmar
Caldari Xenon Logistics
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:02:00 -
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If you want to invest into ISS you might aswell give your iskies to me.
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Serenity Steele
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate Operations
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Alha Qmar If you want to invest into ISS you might aswell give your iskies to me.
You are not an official ISS representative, so that won't work  New ISS IPO
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.01.08 01:08:00 -
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I sure hope things work out for the ISS, the idea of having safe stations in 0.0 space for anyone who wishes to go there is great. It gives a lot of younger players a hope that they may actually be able to explore 0.0 one day and that they won't be relegated to high sec space only.
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Trotski II
Rasta Tropical Club
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Posted - 2007.01.08 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan One question to raise is maybe dividends will still be paid even if you lose the stations. But the image will be so tarnished that i see the desire to purchase iss shares going downhill very fast. Value on the shares will probably decrease to base value and in the end there is no real point on investing in ISS as the possibility for future profit by selling shares will be slim to none.
Oh no. Will that mean that people wonŠt be allowed to sell for 20 million what cost 10 million a few hours ago.
One thing i didnŠt liked in ISS was them selling shares of an outpost and setting a minimun buy order (think it was 100 mil) but not a maximum one. Shares sold like hot cookies in a few hours and the average Joe didnŠt got a chance to get in since some bilionaires at the moment on forums scooped them.
If all shares are sold and ISS keep paying 5% every month i donŠt see why they wonŠt slowly raise in price assuming thereŠs not lots of more interesting investing options.
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