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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:09:00 -
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OK lets take a hypothetical example.I am in a small roaming pvp gang and I want to fit a remote armor repper to help gangmates out in combat or perhaps also to use logistics drones on them during combat.
Those who have watched the alliance tournament will have no doubt seen plenty of this sort of thing and it is essential for effective use of the gang system to maximise each ships abilities and ofc logistics ships which have no other purpose.
Now take the position of Octobersnow Corp a game famous corp no.1 killers in the game on the battleclinic killboards.You would have hoped that such a corp known for its roaming gangs as well as camping would be able to use these support features to maximize their skills and setups in PVP.In fact u would have thought that such setups would be commonplace among such a feared and sucessful pvp corp.
But here is the rub.All members of Octobersnow with the exception of alts are -5 or more and global criminals.If any member of snowy attempts to remote rep/sensor boost/energy tranfer etc etc another member we are immediately globally criminally flagged and sentry fired upon.This is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
People in the same damn corp cannot even help each other out.
FOR the love of GOD FIX THIS **** CCP!!!!!!!!
Havent u nerfed piracy enough to at least give us this one little thing??????????
Please don't use all caps in subject -Conuion
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/12/2006 00:18:27
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I'm in a Ginger thread \o/
Sorry Ginger, but you post so many whines like this that you're unlikely to get any serious responses. There are things in the game meant to hinder piracy, and just because they exist doesn't mean they should be nerfed.
P.S. What's with the forum lag? Took me 4 minutes or so to post this.
You could also try remote-repping the remote-rep ships, you know.
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Scorpyn
Caldari
The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:16:00 -
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Keep in mind that the tournament is based on rules that are vastly different from regular fights.
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Elaron
Minmatar
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:18:00 -
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You could always try 0.0. No sentry guns there.
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:18:00 -
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who is OctoberSnow? maybe the key to sucess it to pirate in 0.0 where there are no gate guns and you wont get beaten down. either that or tank the gate ;)
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Shi'ra Kull
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:18:00 -
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TW*T RUINS FORUMS! CCP PLEASE FIX!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Tortuga Reborn
who is OctoberSnow?
Pirate corporation known for their ego and effective ganking of shuttles and noobships.
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tortuga Reborn on 12/12/2006 00:26:25
Actually, thinking about this, shouldent CCP just make the gate guns spank em on sight? they are criminals, and as such shouldent be allowed in empire at all :)
This would add new dimention to the game, forcing pirates to get better and stay in 0.0 for periods of time :)
*dyslexic spelling edit*
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Dionisius
Gallente
Vagabundos
THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:22:00 -
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Keep up the good jokes Ginger, keep'em coming!
Number one corp... LOL!
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Dallan Arethi
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:22:00 -
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Wait, if all your mains are criminally flagged already, why exactly does it matter that remote-repping flags you?
For that matter, as everyone above me's said, why not go to 0.0 to gatecamp, or even just set your ships up to tank the sentry guns?
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:23:00 -
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Thanks Dark
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:25:00 -
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i dont get it thow, your assisting your mate killing a ship.... so why would you expect NOT to get GateGunSpanked?
they always cycle dangerious targets, and if your assisting your mate in being a dangerious target you are a danger too.
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Patric Murphy
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:28:00 -
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Her is a hit, its not repping a -5 that gets you flaged. It is helping a person with a criminal flag. And if one ship is getting shot at it only makes sense to be able to soot at anyone helping them.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dallan Arethi
Wait, if all your mains are criminally flagged already, why exactly does it matter that remote-repping flags you?
For that matter, as everyone above me's said, why not go to 0.0 to gatecamp, or even just set your ships up to tank the sentry guns?
Because he doesn't have the stones to hang with the big boys that will rip him apart, so he camps low sec gates with his Carrier and shoots down shuttles and rookie ships. Actually he's even failed to do that right as he recently lost his Thanatos to a few battleships and support.
GG Ginger, you clown
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Haffrage
Revelations Inc.
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:31:00 -
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Not so easy without that large remote rep on the carrier, now is it?
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vile56
Nubs.
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: vile56 on 12/12/2006 00:37:01
Originally by: Ginger Magician
OK lets take a hypothetical example.I am in a small roaming pvp gang and I want to fit a remote armor repper to help gangmates out in combat or perhaps also to use logistics drones on them during combat.
Those who have watched the alliance tournament will have no doubt seen plenty of this sort of thing and it is essential for effective use of the gang system to maximise each ships abilities and ofc logistics ships which have no other purpose.
Now take the position of Octobersnow Corp a game famous corp no.1 killers in the game on the battleclinic killboards.You would have hoped that such a corp known for its roaming gangs as well as camping would be able to use these support features to maximize their skills and setups in PVP.In fact u would have thought that such setups would be commonplace among such a feared and sucessful pvp corp.
But here is the rub.All members of Octobersnow with the exception of alts are -5 or more and global criminals.If any member of snowy attempts to remote rep/sensor boost/energy tranfer etc etc another member we are immediately globally criminally flagged and sentry fired upon.This is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
People in the same damn corp cannot even help each other out.
FOR the love of GOD FIX THIS **** CCP!!!!!!!!
Havent u nerfed piracy enough to at least give us this one little thing??????????
Please don't use all caps in subject -Conuion
well, for eve's #1 pvper you would think gm would have found out about this sooner.
I knew about rep agro after 5 days in eve, but i also attacked cruisers in frigs, not shuttles in carriers
 for finaly being on the first page of a gm topic
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:38:00 -
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Ginger spelled 'hypothetical' correctly...now I've seen it all.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 12/12/2006 00:38:32
Listen morons when I make a post I think it out and know my facts unlike most of you.
I am not talking about helping people who are already criminally flagged this situation applies to when u start to do anything to a another -5.even if both parties are not flagged or even if the party doing the remote stuff has a psotive security status he will be immediately flagged and fired upon.
This situation is clearly wrong and an unfair nerf on piracy.It does not affect gate camping because all members are flagged in any case.If CCP wants to get us off the gates and to roam more we mut be given equally footing with everyone else.
It is clearly ridiculous that same corp memebers get flagged regardless.
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tortuga Reborn on 12/12/2006 00:44:04
Edited by: Tortuga Reborn on 12/12/2006 00:43:54
Dont really think anyone cares, your lowsec pirates, the carebears of pvp and ganking at gates, given now everyone has the warp to 0, and u can setup warp bubles in empire, you need to get a little braver and goto the other side where bad people stay
i still say anyone under -6.0 should be KOS for the gates :D
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Tactical Enterprise Group LTD
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:43:00 -
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I think its called aiding and abetting a criminal...
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 12/12/2006 00:39:51
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 12/12/2006 00:38:32
Listen morons when I make a post I think it out and know my facts unlike most of you.
I am not talking about helping people who are already criminally flagged this situation applies to when u start to do anything to another -5. Even if both parties are not flagged or even if the party doing the remote stuff has a postive security status he will be immediately flagged and fired upon.
This situation is clearly wrong and an unfair nerf on piracy. It does not affect gate camping because all members are flagged in any case. If CCP wants to get us off the gates and to roam more we mut be given equally footing with everyone else.
It is clearly ridiculous that same corp memebers get flagged regardless.
For being who you are, I'm a little surprised [read: not at all surprised] you don't even know the most basic rules of engagement.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:44:00 -
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Rofl - Wooo - This is nearly as good as the ASCN titan thread. Just as historical, just happens alot more frequently:P Im sure this will be turned into a http://ccp4tw.ytmnd.com/ soon enough ^^
And Ginger - you dont roam. You sit on the same gate, catching frigates in your thanatos, and then when you eventually get bored, or you see a force recon, you run for the station, move to another system, and camp someone in with your megathron, and then whine when you lose it.
What i suggest, and this is a really good suggestion and im sure people would agree with me here. My suggestion is : Go to 0.0, fight some real enemies, and then see why people laugh at your posts.
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Calel
Caldari
Sarlacc Pit Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Calel on 12/12/2006 00:46:14
Originally by:
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 12/12/2006 00:39:51
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 12/12/2006 00:38:32
Listen morons when I make a post I think it out and know my facts unlike most of you.
I am not talking about helping people who are already criminally flagged this situation applies to when u start to do anything to another -5. Even if both parties are not flagged or even if the party doing the remote stuff has a postive security status he will be immediately flagged and fired upon.
This situation is clearly wrong and an unfair nerf on piracy. It does not affect gate camping because all members are flagged in any case. If CCP wants to get us off the gates and to roam more we mut be given equally footing with everyone else.
It is clearly ridiculous that same corp memebers get flagged regardless.
For being who you are, I'm a little surprised [read: not at all surprised] you don't even know the most basic rules of engagement.
Man you must get alot of time to read up on this stuff while you sit campinh the Hagilur gate killing noobs all day
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr
The Drekla Consortium
Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:47:00 -
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-5.0 people are KOS to everyone right? They are global criminals everywhere in empire pretty much.
If you help one of these criminals, you get flagged for 15 mins. What's wrong with that?
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Tortuga Reborn
ShavenPoodles
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Calel
VINI, VIDI, VICI!
shouldent this be VENI, VIDI, VICI!
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Eelim Garak
Armee der Finsternis
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.12.12 00:50:00 -
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Hello ginger, i dont know you, i never met you, so my answer is not biased.
you are correct when you say that the sentries open fire, even if the pilot you are
remote repping is not shooting or flagged, but just -5.
that is because you are helping a criminal (everyone below -4.9 is considered a criminal), which is forbidden by law, even in real life, if you help a murderer you will get trialed and punished for aiding a criminal.
so, it is not illogical or broken game mechanics, it just common sense that helping a criminal is illegal and makes you a criminal too.
Greets
Eelim Garak
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:08:00 -
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Despite it coming from Ginger Magician, I think he is right: sentries should not suddenly decide to start shooting at you if you aid a criminal that does not have aggression.
This is the situation I think hes complaining about:
Pilot A is -10 and sitting at a station. Sentries do not fire.
Pilot B comes along and activates a remote armor rep on Pilot A. Sentries fire at pilot B, leaving pilot A alone.
Pilot B should only be fired upon if the sentries are currently firing at pilot A at the time of remote boosting.
Not that any of this has anything to do with GM... hes always aggressed because he can't resist not firing at every shuttle that goes past.
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Please don't use all caps in subject -Conuion
That's official word kids, Caps lock is *NOT* Cruise Control for Cool.
Anyhow, such is the price of being a pirate. Learn to tank the sentries. Its not that hard at all. Particularly if you are remote repping each other.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:21:00 -
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Meh.. Not that I'm much of a fan of GM, but I don't think you guys give him enough credit.. He makes a rather good point.. If the gate/station guns do not automatically start firing at somebody -5 or lower, then why should they fire on the guy who is repping him??.. It doesn't make any sense.. Unless of course they change it so that criminals get shot on sight.. Then shooting people who aid them would be valid as well.. 'Course I doubt that would ever happen..
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.12 01:37:00 -
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That I think is an intended feature.
However idle drones engaging someone you remote repair should be fixed.
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