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Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:32:00 - [271] Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?
Reiisha Satal's Legion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:36:00 - [272] At this point i'm waiting for the low-res low-quality JPEG 'dev chat screenshot' from a certain someone. I guess he needs to stall more to come up with one. EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:57:00 - [273] An excellent write up of the chain of events by SirMolle I just wanted to compliment you on such a riveting report. You have some real writing skills there and I enjoyed it an excellent read. While its a shame to see the Avatar lost due to a misunderstanding of game mechanics these things happen in Eve. Sadly it happend with a very expensive ship but that is the way it goes sometimes. I know Ive lost ships, BPs, alot of other stuff in my time in Eve going back to Beta. While alot of it has been petitioned and returned some hasnt. You live with it and move on and learn some lessons along the way. I wish the thread hadnt degenerated like this though it started with the nice report by SirMolle and some compliments and congratulations and turned into something much different. If CYVOK wants to petition the Avatar loss and if CCP wants to replace it or not replace it it's beyond our control and will just "happen" regardless. I agree the loss of the Avatar in this manner was disappointing as going down in full glory of fighting would've been much more invigorating and BoB probably did have the resources there to do the job. Either way the end result is the end result and its what we have to live with and learn from. Congratulations to Shrike and BoB for their victory and condolences to CYVOK and ASCN on their loss. As a player who left 0.0 for Empire and never looked back I will never pilot a Titan and have the experiences of massive alliance pvp again. I have to admit a touch of envy for those rare among us who have had, do now, and will have that opportunity. Still I'm very happy where I am today. A parting comment for CYVOK. You're a good man and have built something wonderful with ASCN. The infrastructure you've developed is truly a great success story of Eve. You've lost the Avatar and are disappointed at the results of your petition (I assume it was rejected). Still EvE has alot to offer and you should consider staying around. People may not have liked what you did or said or how your hair looked but people do have to respect what you did at ASCN and the apparent friendships you've developed over the years. Don't quit now. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Devvon Maelstrom Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 13:00:00 - [274] Edited by: Devvon Maelstrom on 13/12/2006 13:12:46 Edited by: Devvon Maelstrom on 13/12/2006 13:12:08 The direction this topic has gone is beyond bad to the point of making me feel sick. The idea that CCP would jeodardize the integrity of the game by pandering to one group of players or another is not only ludicrous but insulting. Sure, the devs and GMs of Eve try and make the game interesting and entertaining for the players and for themselves but at the end of the day, Eve is a business. Any serious tampering or pampering by the staff would be a quick way to flushing revenues down the toilet. Anybody who would believe that they would risk that is just plainly a fool. Everytime I read these forums, I can easily find posts where one group accuses the other of using haxs or exploits to gain advantage in game. After a while, you start to get the impression that everyone is either cheating or a dev. Of course, this cannot be the case. (At least I hope not, or I am seriously being cheated out of some cool stuff.) The truth of the matter is that noone likes to lose. There are those who can except their losses and those who can only deal with it by finding someone or something else to blame. I have been in BoB since the beginning and I can say with all honesty that we do not cheat, hax, or try to exploit. In truth, we are too damn proud for any of that. We are not devs, GMs, or minor dieties (except Molle - who I do suspect is a minor god come to bless us with his presence.) Anyone who believes otherwise is just chewing on sour grapes.
Nim Taram	Posted - 2006.12.13 13:06:00 - [275] Edited by: Nim Taram on 13/12/2006 13:06:31 .
Thesia Syn Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.13 13:07:00 - [276] What a miserable way to take out a titan. I can see that it must have been impossible to resist, but what an anti-climax. I would have liked to think that some honor between enemies would exist in a situation like that. Oh well.
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:01:00 - [277] Quote: I'll answer your question.. you will see what you want to see.. I can't help what that is. You think I'm biased in favour of BoB? thats your prerrogative, I have no intention of convincing you otherwise. Well that's what everyone (100%) thinks. And it's not about everyone thinking it, but about you proving it again and again. It's not like it's a bad thing anyway, you just like BoB- it's fine. Also, to whoever accussing of anything, just put the proof over the table, no need for all the drama. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:15:00 - [278] Originally by: Karunel Well that's what everyone (100%) thinks. And it's not about everyone thinking it, but about you proving it again and again. You must be a very special person to know what everyone (100%) thinks.... I wish I had your talent.. you are truly a gifted person. I don't like whining, I don't like CCP getting accused left right and centre without proof, I don't like people who live in 0.0 but won't pvp, I don't like alliances with dead weight, I don't like assumptions, I don't like sensless witch-hunts, I don't like cheating.. most of all though I don't like liars, they make my skin crawl. Beyond that you can think I'm pro-whatever you like.
esquimo leviticus GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:15:00 - [279] congrats BOB, on sunday you were crowned the winners of the 3rd tourney and now the first to shoot down a titan.
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:28:00 - [280] Originally by: CYVOK Molle, the trash you and your slaves come up to justify your BS never ceases to amaze me. For the record I did not log off, my computer restarted without warning, something aside from that day that has never happened before. Other then that, my game logs clearly show my arrgo timer ware off 2 minutes before I was out of game. On top of that I could not log back in. Nice job trying to cover up what really took place, looks like you have all your bases covered yet again. Yet another pointless achievement by the Band of Bull-sh**, canÆt beat a bunch of "care bears" on the field of battle so you have to lie, cheat and steal your way thru the war. Congratulations indeed, enjoy your empty "victories". -CYVOK- Whether you like it or not the hardware you play on can have an effect on the game. Getting booted of the internets or our computers crashing and getting killed/podded has happened to a lot of us. That's why with something as important as a titan, you should of taken precautions against this. Perhaps you should of gotten some of the phone numbers of you high ranking alliance officers and called them up to log you in when you realized that your character was still in space when you were kicked off. Your irresponsibility and indecision in this particular situation, and throughout the entire war with BoB, has shown everyone exactly what kind of pilot and leader you are, a terrible one. Lots of tough talk, and then when you lose, you trash the other guy for winning instead of coming to terms with what you did wrong. So not only have you wasted the resources of your alliance by fighting a war and losing it, you wasted about 65 billion of it by not taking precautions against a simple computer malfunction. Bravo Cyvok, bravo.
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:30:00 - [281] Well not wanting to go off-topic so I won't post any furhter but I just meant that all posts I've read by you in threads regarding BoB have always (or pretty much always, it's an hyperbole, a figure of speech, whatever) been pro-BoB and a lot of people have answered your posts pointing just that. As I said, I don't think there's anything wrong with being pro, anti or who-gives-a-flying-```` -BoB. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:37:00 - [282] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: SirMolle Utter and complete idiotic rubbish. Are you all totally insane? @ Malachon If you have anything to say, then go ahead and say it. @ Nez Pull your head out of the flipping sewer @ Tinfoils ENGAGE BRAIN. @ Everyone This post is a factual recap of what happened when the titan went down. Take your &/)/(&#"()/#)(!#=)/#(=/#(=# conspiration theories to the fiction forum where it belongs. Are any of you at all for real? Do you actually HAVE a brain? IF ANYONE wants to accuse us of ANYTHING, be damn sure that you will need to bring PROOF of wtfever it is you are accusing us of. Monkeys have better skill at coming to conclusions then you lot. I don't believe you petitioned to ask the mods if Cyvok got his titan back, did you tell your members you did and that he wouldn't be getting it. Thats what I believe. I dont lie to my members ever. Theres your answer. And the only one you will ever get. This is why so many people hate you Molle, you tell it how it is. :)
Swirler	Posted - 2006.12.13 14:52:00 - [283] Interesting discussions about game mechanics and exploits. Don't fail to recognize that in war, strange things happen, opportunities to win are missed or thrown away or just never seen until after the fact. Mistakes occur, decisions have random consequences. I feel only for the ship loss. Had ASCN known it was under attack, I am sure they would have scrambled all available ships to save it. That fact they did not, means that no one in ASCN knew it was under attack. Just a mis-fortune of war. I have seen my share on both sided in LV's war with RA. Hapless folks wandering into a gate camp with T2 fitted Battleships, off-lined POSs, etc. I guess the one that really loses is the side that doesn't have it's situational awareness and priorities tight. Slight paranoia is perfect awareness, fight till you can't fight anymore, with those two principles, you just might win. 8-)
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 15:29:00 - [284] Edited by: Tundaar on 13/12/2006 15:32:14 Originally by: Troubadour Perhaps you should of gotten some of the phone numbers of you high ranking alliance officers and called them up to log you in when you realized that your character was still in space when you were kicked off Your irresponsibility and indecision in this particular situation, and throughout the entire war with BoB, has shown everyone exactly what kind of pilot and leader you are, a terrible one. Lots of tough talk, and then when you lose, you trash the other guy for winning instead of coming to terms with what you did wrong. So not only have you wasted the resources of your alliance by fighting a war and losing it, you wasted about 65 billion of it by not taking precautions against a simple computer malfunction. Bravo Cyvok, bravo. So you are advocating a clear violation of the EULA (Account Sharing) in order to save a ship . . . . interesting.
Helplessandlost Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.13 15:34:00 - [285] Originally by: Malachon Draco Hahaha, hilarious. So now I've got SirMolle, DB Preacher and Blacklight themselves coming to try and stop me from speaking the truth. How in the world have I been able to rattle their cages to this extent that they all jump in this thread. I guess I am getting a bit too close for comfort here, aren't I? You should have known better, if you wanna try to discredit someone, leave it to your forumwarrior squad. Just ask yourself, if I really were just a loony, would Blacklight, DBP and SirMolle themselves come into this thread to respond? I think not. But like I said before, I need to talk to some people first. By telling you to post what ever it is you are talking about how are they trying to stop you? And who is it you need to talk to? Maybe you are a Dev, yea that's what I think ASCN are all devs! "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!" http://images.filecloud.com/283570/hal201.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Apollo Balthar Minmatar The Sausage Smuggling Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:00:00 - [286] Originally by: Malachon Draco Hahaha, hilarious. So now I've got SirMolle, DB Preacher and Blacklight themselves coming to try and stop me from speaking the truth. How in the world have I been able to rattle their cages to this extent that they all jump in this thread. I guess I am getting a bit too close for comfort here, aren't I? You should have known better, if you wanna try to discredit someone, leave it to your forumwarrior squad. Just ask yourself, if I really were just a loony, would Blacklight, DBP and SirMolle themselves come into this thread to respond? I think not. But like I said before, I need to talk to some people first. Delusions FTL.. I predict no follow up on this slander in the near future like any conspiracy theory... ------------------------------------------------ WTS: tech2 clue
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:11:00 - [287] Originally by: Tundaar Edited by: Tundaar on 13/12/2006 15:32:14 Originally by: Troubadour Perhaps you should of gotten some of the phone numbers of you high ranking alliance officers and called them up to log you in when you realized that your character was still in space when you were kicked off Your irresponsibility and indecision in this particular situation, and throughout the entire war with BoB, has shown everyone exactly what kind of pilot and leader you are, a terrible one. Lots of tough talk, and then when you lose, you trash the other guy for winning instead of coming to terms with what you did wrong. So not only have you wasted the resources of your alliance by fighting a war and losing it, you wasted about 65 billion of it by not taking precautions against a simple computer malfunction. Bravo Cyvok, bravo. So you are advocating a clear violation of the EULA (Account Sharing) in order to save a ship . . . . interesting. Yeah, technically ... Now, give yourself 5 minutes to think about the numerous violations of law and regulations you commit each day without even knowing it, and also knowing that nobody cares about. I'm certain that CCP would frown upon an account constantly shared by different persons, but minor sharing such as : - phoning a friend to ask him to dock your ship cause you've lost your connection in a middle of a ratting session. - asking a friend to start a new skill while your RL prevents you from connecting. - connecting yourself and giving controls to a friend for a few minutes to show him the game. - ... All these three have happened to myself, I am fairly sure an important part of the community does it, and fairly sure that CCP does not care about such minor violations. In fact, I'm not sure I would play Eve today if a friend hadn't told me to take the commands of his Raven in a mission 2 (yeah, he was careful) to see how the game worked. Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:20:00 - [288] Except for the technicalities regarding Eve (which bring me new information about the game), threads like this are starting to disgust me. This is not funny anymore and not an acid entertainment either .
Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:59:00 - [289] Originally by: Rebellion Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here? 5 points for best quote of the thread! Nice job Rebellion... Or should I say MAXIMUS!! tinfoil hat on Also, my spideysense is tingling. It tells me a lock is coming.
Man1ac Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.13 17:02:00 - [290] Originally by: Black Torment Why does ASCN always bring out the OMG HAXPLOITS card? Because that is easier to say, than actually do something about yourself. Their enemies are always "lairs, cheaters, exploiters, uses only t2 guns etc etc". They created that bag of bull***, and now it's exploded in their face.
Brem Watson Caldari Panzershrek	Posted - 2006.12.13 17:20:00 - [291] Great teamwork and persistence!
Grizwold Royal Canuck Air Force	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:01:00 - [292] Bob - Congrats on a well executed Titan kill on an unexpected opportunity. Cyvok - Sad, really sad to see such a reply. It shows how much McCreedy's influence has rubbed off on you and likely how your RL situation has put more stress on you than you may realize. A simple statement of fact would have worked so well. Crap happens and everyone who PVPs knows this and accepts that fact. Virt - So glad you are the new leader of ASCN. Excellent choice (pity it had not been you instead of McCreedy as number 2) but hard act to follow with Cyvok's huge respect factor in ASCN. The loss of Cyvok will likely have a far greater affect on ASCN than the loss of the Titan. Virt/Bob - You may wish to discuss a short armistice in order to allow the reorganization of ASCN ...this is in Bob's best interest as the objective is to have better fights is it not? Maybe have McCreedy sent to Bob as a toy boy for the duration of the Armistice as compensation? Best of luck Virt.
Zimroel The Blackstone Group Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:01:00 - [293] Only one question remains: Did cyvok give the insurance money to ASCN or is he taking it with him as a retirement present? ASCN should look on the bright side - a Titan isn't THAT high a cost to pay to get shot of an incompetent leader.
Derrios Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:12:00 - [294] Originally by: Grizwold Bob - Congrats on a well executed Titan kill on an unexpected opportunity. Cyvok - Sad, really sad to see such a reply. It shows how much McCreedy's influence has rubbed off on you and likely how your RL situation has put more stress on you than you may realize. A simple statement of fact would have worked so well. Crap happens and everyone who PVPs knows this and accepts that fact. Virt - So glad you are the new leader of ASCN. Excellent choice (pity it had not been you instead of McCreedy as number 2) but hard act to follow with Cyvok's huge respect factor in ASCN. The loss of Cyvok will likely have a far greater affect on ASCN than the loss of the Titan. Virt/Bob - You may wish to discuss a short armistice in order to allow the reorganization of ASCN ...this is in Bob's best interest as the objective is to have better fights is it not? Maybe have McCreedy sent to Bob as a toy boy for the duration of the Armistice as compensation? Best of luck Virt. I thought BOB wanted to conqueor the whole map? ----------------------------------------------- I got something to put in you. at the *** bar.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:16:00 - [295] Edited by: Yuki Li on 13/12/2006 18:18:15 Excellent write up and excellent work. It's just a crying shame that the retard squadron saw fit to bomb the thread into stupidity. ASCN are missing a titan for two reasons. 1. Negligence 2. BoB were ontop of their game and saw the mistake. Simple case of cause and effect. No conspiracy, no need for tinfoil hats, and no need for tears. EDIT - Nez, it takes a different kind of ignorance to try to generalise 4000 people with one snot-nosed insult. Website / Recruiting
Hjorten Caldari XanCom	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:25:00 - [296] Congratulations BOB. Pity I could not be involved, but a fascinating ingame development. From a gaming perspective - well done CCP for content. Its moments like these that define history.
Man1ac Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:26:00 - [297] Originally by: Derrios I thought BOB wanted to conqueor the whole map? IMO that is more honorable than... Befriend SA - Attack SA - Grab their land. Befriend SE - Attack SE - Grab their land. Befriend TS - Attack TS - Grab their land. Yes, you can build Empire on lies, deceit and backstabbing. But only for some time. After that is a payback time. ASCN/AXE and all legacy of them deserves to be erased from the map. Together with their laws, blacklists, ignorant notes in the standings list etc. etc. That will clean the south once and for all.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:38:00 - [298] Originally by: Man1ac IMO that is more honorable than... Befriend SA - Attack SA - Grab their land. Befriend SE - Attack SE - Grab their land. Befriend TS - Attack TS - Grab their land. Yes, you can build Empire on lies, deceit and backstabbing. But only for some time. After that is a payback time. ASCN/AXE and all legacy of them deserves to be erased from the map. Together with their laws, blacklists, ignorant notes in the standings list etc. etc. That will clean the south once and for all. Yet again a member of XB cuts straight to the meat of it. Well said. Whilst everyone's feeling all sorry for poor cyvok, remember what this man has done to others. He most certainly isn't the saint that everyone seems to think him to be. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.13 18:59:00 - [299] Originally by: Yuki Li EDIT - Nez, it takes a different kind of ignorance to try to generalise 4000 people with one snot-nosed insult. tsk tsk... you wanna explain yourself Ms Yuki Li? or you just couldn't help yourself and had to edit in a nonsensical comment at the end of an otherwise sensible post. Please explain where my ignorance lies.
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:44:00 - [300] My post isn't any less sensible because i disagree with your generalisation - and doing the same thing over multiple posts doesn't make you right, it makes you sodding persistant. Your ignorance is in stating that 4000 people are all incompetent. I'm sure there are any number of competent players and pvpers within ASCN, even though i'd rather not admit it. (not a fan) You're just trolling because you can Website / Recruiting

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