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Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:26:00 - [31] Originally by: Bazman BoB and Ragoon are on polar opposites on the map. Just that makes it unlikely bob will go for them. I find all this facination over BoB hilarious. Sure they are cool and sexy. No wait... they aren't, it's just Hast <3 As are D2 and BoB. Delve, Cache and Branch are all pretty much the same distance from each other.
Monarch Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:34:00 - [32] If things haven't changed from my last experience with them... NO
Bella Fea TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Rift Scorn Bignoob and his D2 cohorts beat me at Company of Hero's the other day, then stole my Candy. Followed by talking high dollar crooked teeth lawyer jive at me, that i didn't understand. yeh that was indeed a painfull defeat germans playing germans is no fair!! They get home team advantage zomghax.../me shakes fists in a generally northern direction, and demands a rematch. [b]Lastest Movie: Noobs in Action Vol. 2
Katrinazinski	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:45:00 - [34] What's this? Only one vs. one? Mano a mano? kewl! ISS tells me you should never ever fight alone, because alliance fighting should only be done in groups of 5 alliances (or more). btw, I hear ISS is still hiring extra Christmas workers, and they are bragging they have enough isk to either hire both BoB and D2, or to buy out all of their stations in the SOUTH in FY2007. [The fine print in their planned January, 2007 prospectus says that their BoB aquisition is conditioned upon Santa Claus and LV being especially good to them, though... and, they are worried about getting SEC antitrust clearance for the new U.S. stock issue.] Happy Holidays, with much pew pew, and alcohol! Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2006.12.18 20:52:00 - [35] imho D2 would give at least BoB a good run for their money and maybe, but only maybe, they will be able stand on par with them...but beating alone....don't think so... And i would bet my last sock that their long term allys will come to their help, even without asking! For all ppl complaining all these NAPs (RZR, IRON esp): Just look at it as already mentioned as mutual defence pact...these are deffo not short time arranged NAPs, these are long time friendships based on mutual help not only on the battlefield. I don't know their actual situations but it would surprise me a lot if that had changed... btw.: Hi Fred0... -- Might As well Train Another Race
Jenessa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:00:00 - [36] I'd say D2 would lose a fight against BoB if it took on BoB on it's own. If D2 and it's "allies" took them on then I doubt BoB could equal them. But then you're into a numbers game and when that happens everyone loses as the nodes start to go pop!
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:07:00 - [37] Originally by: D75485 well has most peolpe in the game may think bob will go for D2 or RAGOONS dont forget that bob hates for people to have a titan and that LV does have one so I bet if bob dont go for D2 then it will be LV I used to wonder what would happen between ASCN and BoB. Now that I know that answer, I'm now wondering what happens with BoB vs Red Alliance (and the former BoB playthings, Goonfleet). The RAGOON bloc is most definitely an interesting matchup. I think D2's bloc is a fairly strong force, too...don't get me wrong. I'm just interested in seeing if RA can actually ever be finished off or if their tactics are, to a point, unbeatable.
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:19:00 - [38] heh ASCN isn't dead yet last i checked the map i still saw alot of sov blips in estoria and feyth.... knowledge is power.... guard it well
hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:32:00 - [39] BoB can't fight D2. They can only come up and fight 'The North'. Even if D2 said to everyone 'don't get involved guys this is personal, we can handle it' - I don't think we could hold back the sheer hatred the north has for D2 that's been festering and scheming all this time. But BoB has already visited us a few times - and if everyone was paying attention - you will see after each visit the north reforms and becomes stronger. At first 'BoB' (or milk&cookies or whatever it was then) crushed every alliance up there during the GNW. Then later IRON and G were formed, who repelled BoB a good few times and won - I think - a majority of fleet battles. Then BoB and pretty much every napped lapdog in the south came up to EC-P8R with more capital ships than there are civilian deaths in liberated middle-eastern countries. Now we have D2. -omg-
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:35:00 - [40] D2 its like ASCN but with attitude, like a big mafia with family member like Morsus,Razor,Iron,etc... I don't think D2 can win alone against Bob because like some people say they are not G alliance now...very far of it.I don't say they are bad no but they more industrialist like ASCN at the moment...but with all the help of their Napfestival friend...Maybe its possible! I prefer to say the North Coalition Vs Bob...than D2 vs Bob....its more realistic! my two cents
Taizu Lilith Minmatar Counterglow Kancho Unlimited	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:39:00 - [41] If all the north hates D2 for their scheming, why would the north aid them?
Hull Cleaver Caldari Mala Fide Corp	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:44:00 - [42] Well it certainly appears that a decent fight will ensue... No one can really clearly answer the question. While BoB has the obvious numbers, D2 has gathering a good number of decent PvP corps to its side. My members are urging me to lean towards D2 as we have mutual friends within its corps but small corps have it rough already and BoB tends to hold a grudge...lol Commander HullCleaver Mala Fide CEO
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:48:00 - [43] Originally by: Taizu Lilith If all the north hates D2 for their scheming, why would the north aid them? They might, because they realise if D2 fall then they're next. But in the real world 'all the north' doesn't hate D2, so it won't come to that kind of decision. My question is what scheming?
Decadent Diva	Posted - 2006.12.18 21:55:00 - [44] bob might be able to win the first battles, but then has to face the awoken might of Gs modified 1400mm. once these beautys are cleaned from the dust of gone ages, they will do what they always did. big holes in big ships.
bevs	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:03:00 - [45] Originally by: Hull Cleaver While BoB has the obvious numbers, D2 has gathering a good number of decent PvP corps to its side. Might be true but the top pvp corp in D2 which had twice as many kills as the 2nd best corp just left D2 so while they still have a number of very good pvp corps they are now weaker than before
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:14:00 - [46] Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 18/12/2006 22:14:57 Originally by: hired goon But BoB has already visited us a few times - and if everyone was paying attention - you will see after each visit the north reforms and becomes stronger. At first 'BoB' (or milk&cookies or whatever it was then) crushed every alliance up there during the GNW. Then later IRON and G were formed, who repelled BoB a good few times and won - I think - a majority of fleet battles. Then BoB and pretty much every napped lapdog in the south came up to EC-P8R with more capital ships than there are civilian deaths in liberated middle-eastern countries. Now we have D2. Pretty accurate account there. Seems like D2 is taking a bob approach to things. Sitting back and stockpiling stuff for war while everybody else fights (kinda like when G/Iron rolled over the south in 2 weeks while bob mined) Last time BoB attacked the major northern forces, they brought everybody and their brother. So its safe to say they considered G a major threat. Now that bob has killed off one of the major supporters of the last attack (Ascn), it'll be interesting to see what happens next. The real question is: does D2 have the same kind of strength that G used to be able to muster? Or has this been diminished? With only 3 major superpower alliances left it seems like which ever 2 go toe to toe first will proably get jumped by the 3rd as soon as the fighting stops...
RaYmEn Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:15:00 - [47] Edited by: RaYmEn on 18/12/2006 22:15:11 All people who want to see how weak d2 is, please come visit me in Branch, please come and have a nice cookie with me, you will see that we still have our G's modified guns fitted. Ready to shot you back to stoneage
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:25:00 - [48] Beating BoB requires innovation, which in turn excludes all major 0.0 powers. Join Star Fraction. Be yourself.
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Leto Twin ... We are already fighting BoB... O.o. "Fighting" and "Getting a kill here or there and taking losses in empire when BoB operates out of 0.0" aren't the same thing.
Selpy 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:54:00 - [50] Edited by: Selpy on 18/12/2006 22:55:57 Originally by: Hast why dont you let us pick our own targets? Can I help give you guys a push....the north is mighty nice right now, I know me and the Outbreak lad's would LOVE to get a chance at your motherships and that titan :) Not to mention you'd get some good fight's, seem's that the north can rally quite well, I mean, we had 5 alliances showup to kill our small POS in 6nj Toxin's can't be killed, Only removed!
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.18 22:56:00 - [51] Originally by: Selpy Originally by: Hast why dont you let us pick our own targets? Can I help give you guys a push....the north is mighty nice right now, I know me and the Outbreak lad's out LOVE to get a chance at your motherships and that titan :) Not to mention you'd get some good fight's, seem's that the north can rally quite well, I mean, we had 5 alliances showup to kill our small POS in 6nj More like "Here's a chance to attack something of 0utbreaks that can't run away!". Not having a go at you though, clearly you can't hang around until the blob arrives, you're a wee bit outnumbered up here.
Shinoobie Inversion Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Tecam Hund Beating BoB requires innovation, which in turn excludes all major 0.0 powers. Rules you out on the innovation and power front then. :D BoB helped formed the north. There are no NAPs in the north, only blues. Friendships and comradeship formed from fighting BoB in the first place. You fight one alliance in the North, you fight them all. Elite Scouting
NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Stamm Originally by: Selpy Originally by: Hast why dont you let us pick our own targets? Can I help give you guys a push....the north is mighty nice right now, I know me and the Outbreak lad's out LOVE to get a chance at your motherships and that titan :) Not to mention you'd get some good fight's, seem's that the north can rally quite well, I mean, we had 5 alliances showup to kill our small POS in 6nj More like "Here's a chance to attack something of 0utbreaks that can't run away!". Not having a go at you though, clearly you can't hang around until the blob arrives, you're a wee bit outnumbered up here. Tbh 'Outbreak' are good at what they do, and imho i would make a strategic withdrawal if the situation called for it. i have respect for any entity that's obviously well organised and diciplined as they seem to be. End of the day any entity that has sovereign space has Raiders, its what keeps us on our toes
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:10:00 - [54] Originally by: NereSky Tbh 'Outbreak' are good at what they do, and imho i would make a strategic withdrawal if the situation called for it. i have respect for any entity that's obviously well organised and diciplined as they seem to be. End of the day any entity that has sovereign space has Raiders, its what keeps us on our toes Absolutely, but the way they've been cranking out the killmails, when there's a chance to shoot them everybody turns up :)
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:12:00 - [55] Edited by: The Armin on 18/12/2006 23:15:05 Who knows ? =] On a side note 0utbreak is keeping most alliances in the north on their toes. Nothing but huge respect for you guys, you've certainly teached me a trick or two
Selpy 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:21:00 - [56] sorry to the OP, I didn't mean to hi-jack your thread. Thanks for the comment's guys. But seriously, I would love to see D2 go at BOB, because quite frankly, it's better to take the battle to your enemey's land, than to have them come to your's. Toxin's can't be killed, Only removed!
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Selpy Not to mention you'd get some good fight's, seem's that the north can rally quite well, I mean, we had 5 alliances showup to kill our small POS in 6nj Serves you right for not inviting us to the housewarming party.
Rick Thwaites Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:23:00 - [58] I am not going to lie; BoB attacking the North would be a lot of fun! (Just give me notice so I can build myself about 100 BSes and twice that many intys) The sheer force would be unlike anything else. Bigger than TomB's ego. The death's and ISK loss in the first weeks would be insane. Jita wouldn't be able to keep up to the demand for ships and modules. Disclaimer: My views are my own, etc. -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected]) Purple matches your eyes a little better, Cathath. = )! Not the first time I have been told I am too big...
Marcus TheMartin Gallente MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:25:00 - [59] Don't mind me just posting in a thread about bob Sig Nerf - Cortes I declare war on ISD! You don't stand a chance -Karl
Faith Black Minmatar Rolls Roids	Posted - 2006.12.18 23:55:00 - [60] I think such a war wouldn't be started by D2 and their allies, because they probably only want to go to war, if it's just about happy shooting, but not, if it involves a serious risk / sets them economically back. If anything, they would attack a weaker alliance out of boredom. If they attack BoB then probably only, if BoB is already fighting RAGoon. Ok, sorry, but I think the north is too afraid to risk, what they have. I think they want safe pvp, like fighting in someone else's region, while everything is still fine at home and runs towards more assets, equipment, isks. I think BoB is far more aggressive and less carebear. puts her flamesuit on ------ Who wants to be Caldari, if he could be 1337 instead ? Minnie 4tw ! ^^

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