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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.21 11:26:00 -
[181]
HIs 'main' (albeit equally nub) is "Ollobrains"
Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh
Naz: John is a realist
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:23:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
First of start ur reply a bit more creative, using the same paragraphe makes u look kind of uncreative.
What u rember back once, was 2005, and yes back then it was like that. But things have changed a lot. So get ur intel from the ppl and not only the forum. Might wanna check who left stv and who joined latley. Which should give a better picture. Not only corp whise but also alliance whise.
About Triop, back then more then a year ago, it might have looked like that. But things have changed triop is participating in larger groups in good numbers which are more then 12.
As u see d2 vs bob is a war between alliances, which means its about alliance warfare, in that warfare its about alliance numbers and not about corp members. But be sure that TriOp is aiding D2 with numbers quiet well.
But as u have proven, keep ur outdated intel as true and be suprised once we meet on the alliance warfare level.
there is need of creativity and posting facts only when your name is Gyro D. otherwise I dont see the need of creativity in posting facts.
forum is a ***** and I prefer simplicity.
with your statements you have prooven that my old informations were right, therefore I assume my new ones are right to. anyway, when the time has come, prove me that I am wrong - until then:
My Eyes, My Mind > Your Forum Smack
sincerly,
see you ingame (if you are not only a forum warrior)
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Personally i do not flame at anybody
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:29:00 -
[183]
Edited by: DeadDuck on 21/12/2006 12:33:53
Originally by: Nero Winger
see you ingame (if you are not only a forum warrior)
Only by suggesting that he might be only a forum warrior reveals how much you know about D2 
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CDS Leader
Caldari
Eve Forum Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:40:00 -
[184]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Edited by: DeadDuck on 21/12/2006 12:33:53
Originally by: Nero Winger
see you ingame (if you are not only a forum warrior)
Only by suggesting that he might be only a forum warrior reveals how much you know about D2
Sadly, against a true Forum Warrior, BoB dont stand a chance.
So far all I have seen in the first day of my wardec against them (link in sig) is that they log.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:43:00 -
[185]
This is really the most ridiculous thread.
In the words of Monty Python "Stop that, it's silly!".
Blog
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Rei Toai
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2006.12.21 12:45:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Nero Winger
My Eyes, My Mind > Your Forum Smack
your eyes and your mind != facts
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I don't want to talk about it I don't want to talk about it
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CDS Leader
Caldari
Eve Forum Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:07:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Blacklight
This is really the most ridiculous thread.
In the words of Monty Python "Stop that, it's silly!".
Ohhh so the thread was ok until I said that 'some' bob pilots log?
I mean, I am a 1 man corp in a gank cruiser. Sure, there were 2 logistics ships remote repairing me, but that is moot point!
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DrRockIT
Caldari
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:13:00 -
[188]
A lot of peeps in here forgot to mention that eve is allways evolving.
When G hit ASCN about a yeahr ago, Capitals where not that common like theyre today. If u had like 7 Dreads people went OMG, today u have 20+ in a gang if u seriously want to kill POSs in a moderate timeframe.
We might not steamrolled them in taken stations like BoB did nowadays, but in almost every fleetbattle we won most of them heavily outnumbered.
Also G didnt used forum and Teamspeak spys and by Gs former size there was no option to hold new claimed territory without leaving our Homes in the north.
So all u self claimed Eve-History experts step back a little and stop all the comparisons between old G and actual BoB because u cant compare them.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:21:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Blacklight
This is really the most ridiculous thread.
In the words of Monty Python "Stop that, it's silly!".
QFT.
To the general audience: It will come to blows between BOB and the North again, it's just a matter of time. When that situation arises you will know and instead of just armchair generalling here and now in this thread please put your time and effort into making sure you're on the winning side when it does come to blows again. That way we'll all get as much fun as possible out of it.
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:31:00 -
[190]
Originally by: DrRockIT
A lot of peeps in here forgot to mention that eve is allways evolving.
When G hit ASCN about a yeahr ago, Capitals where not that common like theyre today. If u had like 7 Dreads people went OMG, today u have 20+ in a gang if u seriously want to kill POSs in a moderate timeframe.
We might not steamrolled them in taken stations like BoB did nowadays, but in almost every fleetbattle we won most of them heavily outnumbered.
K/L ratio was indeed very good. You definatly got alot more kills than them. However that isn't winning. While you did meet some of your war objectives they were not easy battles and you didnt hold on to what you took and even though you did get more kills it was quite a stuggle and took you multiple attempts to meet any of your objectives. It was by no means a one sided fight.
I'm not sure if I'm understanding right but are you implying that D2 today is stronger than G was?
Originally by: DrRockIT
Also G didnt used forum and Teamspeak spys
That's not true at all.
Originally by: DrRockIT
So all u self claimed Eve-History experts step back a little and stop all the comparisons between old G and actual BoB because u cant compare them.
We would be comparing D2 and BoB but I can't recall D2 fighting any actual major wars.
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:41:00 -
[191]
I'll ask this mainly because I really never met BoB....how big is there capital fleet?
Or D2 for that matter? I'm asking compared to LV's capital fleet...not trying to start anything...just curious for my own personal knowledge.... 
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Eleese
Caldari
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:43:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Silvestri
I'll ask this mainly because I really never met BoB....how big is there capital fleet?
Or D2 for that matter? I'm asking compared to LV's capital fleet...not trying to start anything...just curious for my own personal knowledge....
You havent seen LV's capital fleet either lol.. they didn't bring dreadnaughts :)
Anyway LV, D2 ,Bob cap fleet is probably quite similar in size. But its not size that counts its how you use it.. I mean ASCN cap fleet was same size as bobs possibly even bigger.
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.21 13:45:00 -
[193]
thanx Eleese...true on how you use it....I'm sure LV didn't bring it all...I was curious. I have new found respect for LV.....I didn't really realize how big they are...
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Just Smith
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.21 14:02:00 -
[194]
I believe we have the smallest capital fleet if your are comparing us to d2 or bob. As eleese said it's not size it's how you use it, and to quote my hero one of my heros
Edmund: I certainly am, sir. I didn't realise we had any battle plans.
Melchett: Well, of course we have! How else do you think the battles are
directed?
Edmund: Our battles are directed, sir?
Melchett: Well, of course they are, Blackadder -- directed according to the
Grand Plan.
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dicemen4
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2006.12.21 14:09:00 -
[195]
TBH i do not think any one alliance can take out BOB because what is backing the war machine know as bob XS FIX and maybe if things got really bad throw MC into the fight.It would take atleast 2 major alliance to take bob head on thats in my eyes tbh and if anybody said this before im sry but im not reading 7 pages of whatever 
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Stamm
Amarr
Three Holdings
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.21 14:15:00 -
[196]
Originally by: dicemen4
TBH i do not think any one alliance can take out BOB because what is backing the war machine know as bob XS FIX and maybe if things got really bad throw MC into the fight.It would take atleast 2 major alliance to take bob head on thats in my eyes tbh and if anybody said this before im sry but im not reading 7 pages of whatever
Then why post? You brought nothing to the thread.
I've read all 7 pages though. So here's my summary.
Nobody knows until it happens. It might never happen. BoB might split apart after ASCN. D2 might do the same. BoB and D2 might NAP and decide to split 0.0 between them, and obliterate LV/Ragoon/AAA/ASCN/Everybody. Eve might have a database crash and we'd all be starting with 0 SP again without corps. The world might end tomorrow. We might all say at Christmas, in a fit of benevolence that the shooty shooty has to stop, and we might all carebear until the end of Eve (about 2 weeks I reckon).
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.21 15:28:00 -
[197]
Originally by: dicemen4
TBH i do not think any one alliance can take out BOB because what is backing the war machine know as bob XS FIX and maybe if things got really bad throw MC into the fight.It would take atleast 2 major alliance to take bob head on thats in my eyes tbh and if anybody said this before im sry but im not reading 7 pages of whatever
It would take more than 2 major alliances....and merc's...
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Shinjuro
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.21 16:45:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Murukan
IBNP
OMFG Muru you forum *****.
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Mang0o
Caldari
Kemono.
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Posted - 2006.12.21 17:51:00 -
[199]
Originally by: liquidism
Originally by: pershphanie
ASCN and D2 fought a war back when D2 still had steelvipers and co. They had moderate success, but it was a fairly tuff fight for them that ended up in alot of stalemates. Bob steamrolled ASCN. So if D2 at their prime before the split off was only slightly better than ASCN why would D2 not completly get owned by bob?
that was G and not D2 pers.
and in G we had this huuge timezone problem, all germans you know.
lol yeah i remember pers use to pwn eve with her forsaken empire allinace.. D2 BOB or ASCN did not stand a chance..
(sry had to)
I love you Mang0o, take a guess why -Eris |
Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.12.21 17:57:00 -
[200]
G/IRON/RZR vs ASCN war didn't start as such. We were just gonna pwn stain then go home(for stains little 200 man BS station grap stunt they pulled.) Then while down there in force ASCN whom we were originally cool with from fights in both ASCN and Northern territories started seeing what we were doing to stain and started getting nervous(assumption on my part) that we were down south for more than stain. They started amasing huge BS fleets and convoing people saying they shouldn't go into ASCN space and the like. G/IRON/RZR didn't like this. So after threats by ASCN which was basically the same as shooting us led to the infamous "G/IRON/RZR are -10 forever for shooting us while blue incident".
Meanwhile back at the ranch(a.k.a Dekelein), BoB spies were reporting that "no one is freaking here". They are pos full of zydrine and a station ripe for the taking because no one is freaking here. So being the opprotunist that they are BoB waltzed in to Deklein and started decimating our shoe string support. A few pilots tried valiantly to hold back the assault but to no avail. Then they took the station and then took down the killboard and erased everything(Kraph erased the board, not sure if BoB leadership had any say about it). The G/IRON plan was to let them do whatever and just take the station back whenever. However the forum propoganda machine fired up..you know the selling our station, IRON sucks, etc...
G/IRON/RZR were BBQing the ASCN fleets. Anyone who thinks diffrently was either not involved in the fighting or are braindead. However hearing about mates getting slaugheterd and how the crokite roids were growing uncontrollably, IRON decided to go home to save our exotic strippers from the ravenous BoB horde. G who never really wanted to kill ASCN in the first place decides to come help us. The opening engangements were BoB vs G/IRON. Then IRON and resident corps started forming big arse fleets constantly. The battles were give and take. IRON had the numbers, BoB had better tactics imo at the time. Then BoB who didn't want our region to begin with decided hmm this isn't fun anymore weve had our laugh were gonna leave. But as usual the forum exit strategy said they were leaving on their own timetable and not because of angry carebears.
Meanwhile, back in Middle Earth, ASCN claimed victory over the G/IRON/RZR barbarians saying they repelled the onslaught when in our opinions BoB saved them by invading Deklein. IMHO ASCN would have fell had we not left. So couple this with the blobbing of EC-P8R, it is especially humerous to us in the north that ASCN is getting pwned by their saviours.
Oh yeah, and no one really knows who would win in the BoB/allies vs D2/allies engangement. Their are just a lot of people who "think" they do. Its gonna happen sooner or later then it will be followed by months of forum I told you so's.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.21 19:19:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Stamm
BoB and D2 might NAP and decide to split 0.0 between them, and obliterate LV/Ragoon/AAA/ASCN/Everybody.
BoB flying with D2 and maybe the whole north ? Interesting idea. BoB would lose. Not on the battlefield, but respect. So I say: 'Never gonna happen !' 
CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix. |
Fuffel
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.21 19:28:00 -
[202]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: DrRockIT
Also G didnt used forum and Teamspeak spys
That's not true at all.
well, you are in bob now, so the chances of not-knowing-all-about-anybodyelse-history are close to non-existing,
as ASCN forums are open to anybody that can say "What ship to fly next" in the starter channels - its no wonder.
But no pilot in Iron/G would have flown in a gang that uses highly doubtable tactics like ts-spying.
We all loved pvp to much to deny us the fun from the start.
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Sochin
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.21 19:34:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Death Merchant
G/IRON/RZR vs ASCN war didn't start as such. We were just gonna pwn stain then go home(for stains little 200 man BS station grap stunt they pulled.) Then while down there in force ASCN whom we were originally cool with from fights in both ASCN and Northern territories started seeing what we were doing to stain and started getting nervous(assumption on my part) that we were down south for more than stain. They started amasing huge BS fleets and convoing people saying they shouldn't go into ASCN space and the like. G/IRON/RZR didn't like this. So after threats by ASCN which was basically the same as shooting us led to the infamous "G/IRON/RZR are -10 forever for shooting us while blue incident".
Meanwhile back at the ranch(a.k.a Dekelein), BoB spies were reporting that "no one is freaking here". They are pos full of zydrine and a station ripe for the taking because no one is freaking here. So being the opprotunist that they are BoB waltzed in to Deklein and started decimating our shoe string support. A few pilots tried valiantly to hold back the assault but to no avail. Then they took the station and then took down the killboard and erased everything(Kraph erased the board, not sure if BoB leadership had any say about it). The G/IRON plan was to let them do whatever and just take the station back whenever. However the forum propoganda machine fired up..you know the selling our station, IRON sucks, etc...
G/IRON/RZR were BBQing the ASCN fleets. Anyone who thinks diffrently was either not involved in the fighting or are braindead. However hearing about mates getting slaugheterd and how the crokite roids were growing uncontrollably, IRON decided to go home to save our exotic strippers from the ravenous BoB horde. G who never really wanted to kill ASCN in the first place decides to come help us. The opening engangements were BoB vs G/IRON. Then IRON and resident corps started forming big arse fleets constantly. The battles were give and take. IRON had the numbers, BoB had better tactics imo at the time. Then BoB who didn't want our region to begin with decided hmm this isn't fun anymore weve had our laugh were gonna leave. But as usual the forum exit strategy said they were leaving on their own timetable and not because of angry carebears.
Meanwhile, back in Middle Earth, ASCN claimed victory over the G/IRON/RZR barbarians saying they repelled the onslaught when in our opinions BoB saved them by invading Deklein. IMHO ASCN would have fell had we not left. So couple this with the blobbing of EC-P8R, it is especially humerous to us in the north that ASCN is getting pwned by their saviours.
Oh yeah, and no one really knows who would win in the BoB/allies vs D2/allies engangement. Their are just a lot of people who "think" they do. Its gonna happen sooner or later then it will be followed by months of forum I told you so's.
This is the best post on this subject I have seen from anyone in IRON or G/D2.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Paladineguru
Gallente
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.21 21:09:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Plutoinum
Originally by: Stamm
BoB and D2 might NAP and decide to split 0.0 between them, and obliterate LV/Ragoon/AAA/ASCN/Everybody.
BoB flying with D2 and maybe the whole north ? Interesting idea. BoB would lose. Not on the battlefield, but respect. So I say: 'Never gonna happen !'
actually you never know, The core of bob came from the north. they have always claimed it as a home. too see them welcomed would be the hard part. but say if super galactic alien invaders come to eve. shoot id be right there with bob facing the bug eyed menace :)
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Liet Traep
Minmatar
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:23:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: Death Merchant
G/IRON/RZR vs ASCN war didn't start as such. We were just gonna pwn stain then go home(for stains little 200 man BS station grap stunt they pulled.) Then while down there in force ASCN whom we were originally cool with from fights in both ASCN and Northern territories started seeing what we were doing to stain and started getting nervous(assumption on my part) that we were down south for more than stain. They started amasing huge BS fleets and convoing people saying they shouldn't go into ASCN space and the like. G/IRON/RZR didn't like this. So after threats by ASCN which was basically the same as shooting us led to the infamous "G/IRON/RZR are -10 forever for shooting us while blue incident".
Meanwhile back at the ranch(a.k.a Dekelein), BoB spies were reporting that "no one is freaking here". They are pos full of zydrine and a station ripe for the taking because no one is freaking here. So being the opprotunist that they are BoB waltzed in to Deklein and started decimating our shoe string support. A few pilots tried valiantly to hold back the assault but to no avail. Then they took the station and then took down the killboard and erased everything(Kraph erased the board, not sure if BoB leadership had any say about it). The G/IRON plan was to let them do whatever and just take the station back whenever. However the forum propoganda machine fired up..you know the selling our station, IRON sucks, etc...
G/IRON/RZR were BBQing the ASCN fleets. Anyone who thinks diffrently was either not involved in the fighting or are braindead. However hearing about mates getting slaugheterd and how the crokite roids were growing uncontrollably, IRON decided to go home to save our exotic strippers from the ravenous BoB horde. G who never really wanted to kill ASCN in the first place decides to come help us. The opening engangements were BoB vs G/IRON. Then IRON and resident corps started forming big arse fleets constantly. The battles were give and take. IRON had the numbers, BoB had better tactics imo at the time. Then BoB who didn't want our region to begin with decided hmm this isn't fun anymore weve had our laugh were gonna leave. But as usual the forum exit strategy said they were leaving on their own timetable and not because of angry carebears.
Meanwhile, back in Middle Earth, ASCN claimed victory over the G/IRON/RZR barbarians saying they repelled the onslaught when in our opinions BoB saved them by invading Deklein. IMHO ASCN would have fell had we not left. So couple this with the blobbing of EC-P8R, it is especially humerous to us in the north that ASCN is getting pwned by their saviours.
Oh yeah, and no one really knows who would win in the BoB/allies vs D2/allies engangement. Their are just a lot of people who "think" they do. Its gonna happen sooner or later then it will be followed by months of forum I told you so's.
This is the best post on this subject I have seen from anyone in IRON or G/D2.
I was an outsider at the time but it certainly looked to me that G/RZR/IRON had ASCN's number. I honestly believed then that they were saved by BoB invading up north. Course if you mention that to an ASCN guy they'll give you a different story. But it sure looks to me that they only survived this long because of BoB.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:27:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Fuffel
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: DrRockIT
Also G didnt used forum and Teamspeak spys
That's not true at all.
well, you are in bob now, so the chances of not-knowing-all-about-anybodyelse-history are close to non-existing,
as ASCN forums are open to anybody that can say "What ship to fly next" in the starter channels - its no wonder.
But no pilot in Iron/G would have flown in a gang that uses highly doubtable tactics like ts-spying.
We all loved pvp to much to deny us the fun from the start.
Nice choice of words focusing on TS spying, if you're trying to declare that D2 or G as was and her allies didn't use spies you're fooling nobody. You lot have used spies just as much as the next person. You might not have used TS spies during actual combat but you still use spies and gather intel just the same as the rest of us do.
Blog
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:35:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Mang0o
Originally by: liquidism
Originally by: pershphanie
ASCN and D2 fought a war back when D2 still had steelvipers and co. They had moderate success, but it was a fairly tuff fight for them that ended up in alot of stalemates. Bob steamrolled ASCN. So if D2 at their prime before the split off was only slightly better than ASCN why would D2 not completly get owned by bob?
that was G and not D2 pers.
and in G we had this huuge timezone problem, all germans you know.
lol yeah i remember pers use to pwn eve with her forsaken empire allinace.. D2 BOB or ASCN did not stand a chance..
(sry had to)
And I remember when you almost started crying on TS because Robotek was making fun of you.
(sry had to)
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
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pershphanie
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:55:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Fuffel
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: DrRockIT
Also G didnt used forum and Teamspeak spys
That's not true at all.
well, you are in bob now, so the chances of not-knowing-all-about-anybodyelse-history are close to non-existing,
I don't claim to know all about your history. However I was in an alliance with alot of G/D2's members for over a year in PA. Then after that had various encounters/meetings/chats with them for quite some time afterwards. I still talk to some of them today. Being in BoB does not erase my memory. Weak attempt at discrediting what I said. 1/10 tops.
Originally by: Fuffel
as ASCN forums are open to anybody that can say "What ship to fly next" in the starter channels - its no wonder.
But no pilot in Iron/G would have flown in a gang that uses highly doubtable tactics like ts-spying.
Well either you use spys or you don't. G/Iron leadership used forum spys to plan attacks on their enemies. How easy or hard it was for you to get spys isn't relevent nor is how you used them. Why bother to justify, rationalize, or downplay how you chose to play the game? Using spys isn't against any rule. It's entirly unnecessary.
Originally by: CYVOK
If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
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Sir Howard
Gallente
Four Rings
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:06:00 -
[209]
Speaking of which.....ic D2 is visiting the HED-GP area....and quite alot of you at that.
Hmm
"This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box" |
Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:44:00 -
[210]
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For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
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