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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Excesse Why should IAC call this whole shebang off now? Seems to me they have plenty to gain from the conflict now that the situation has changed.
Whats changed, exactly?
They lost an outpost.
AAA turned up wanting to fight MC/LV cap fleet head on. When that didnt happen, AAA logged back in the next day and left. They were looking for a fight.
IAC are weaker now than when the war started, I don't think anyone is denying that. They've lost a lot of credibility too, and even old allies like No Quarter are saying they don't want anything to do with them now.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
I'm sure your members are laughing it up too, as they log back into the F4 station to find new owners.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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Excesse
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.23 15:22:00 -
[122]
Quote: while ISS chearleaders squealed "yay team" from POS's, doesn't change anything.
Yeah I liked that one too. :D It's funny because it's true.
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.23 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog I'm sure your members are laughing it up too, as they log back into the F4 station to find new owners.
What exactly will it take for you to understand that most of IAC are behind the leadership... and the more you say, the more IAC change their mind and commit 
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Gutsani
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.23 15:41:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Butter Dog
I'm sure your members are laughing it up too, as they log back into the F4 station to find new owners.
Its funny how YOU try to spin other people's words and make up stuff while the biggest pafethic stuff in these threads gets said by YOU. "ISS is neutral, not political!" "WE HAVE ALOT OF FRIENDS" "We follow our charter!" "MC was hired to attack!" "LOGOFSKI!" sure boy .. sure 
How about, we speak again in a couple weeks, and for that time you stay away from the flames? ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |

Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.23 16:46:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Halafian on 23/12/2006 16:47:24
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Halafian
I would like to hear more about "market pvp" and how the high price of shuttles drove IAC to these desperate measures.
Hey way to look like a fool by taking a simple example and making it into 'the reason of the war.'
The problem is, every time you guys give an example, it turns out to be complete crap.
Why did IAC invade ISS and threaten our outposts again?
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:04:00 -
[126]
heh, on a completely unrelated side note, i always figured the whole russian logofski joke was just that; an overexageration of the actions of a couple pilots. I was surprised and astounded when 100 of them logged off together for future action. ive never seen a logofski first hand, but now that I have I can see where their reputation for counterstrike style eveplay has come from.
its christmas iss and iac, chill on the personal flames. we will get back to annihilating iac after santa comes. lol, for now, just relax and get in the seasonal spirit. Love, peace, and good will to all men, ect
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Deoma
Amarr Beerserkers
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken heh, on a completely unrelated side note, i always figured the whole russian logofski joke was just that; an overexageration of the actions of a couple pilots. I was surprised and astounded when 100 of them logged off together for future action. ive never seen a logofski first hand, but now that I have I can see where their reputation for counterstrike style eveplay has come from.
its christmas iss and iac, chill on the personal flames. we will get back to annihilating iac after santa comes. lol, for now, just relax and get in the seasonal spirit. Love, peace, and good will to all men, ect
wonder, what did you expect? staying online 24/7? it is called discipline, when the OP is finished and going to continue next day, what should any organized fleet do? call it a night and prevent stupid losses of fleet ships 1 by 1. dont make you looks like an ASCN/AXE.
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Uuve Savisaalo
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2006.12.23 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 23/12/2006 18:16:55
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken heh, we will get back to annihilating iac after santa comes. lol,
Before I get to the matter at hand I'd like to first say that in my time on the forums I've generally been regarded as someone both unlikely to dish out or receive much in the way of smack slinging, which is somewhat heartening. That established, I'm a bit alarmed to see how seriously mercenary coalition - the people i've always had a great deal of respect for - seem to take forum warfare and maintaining appearances. You in particular, FowlPlayChiken, have been gumflapping these threads with a truly inexplicable 'ez noobcakes' attitude - I say inexplicable here because the emergence of our associates has all too likely presuaded your management to hastily proclaim a victory of helping everyone, their mum and third cousins take f4, followed by bowing out before oodles of fetid sauce start drizzling all over ISS and their shareholders, who I'm sure will double their wrath and demand reimbursements on their shares once the outposts begin to fall.
And yeah, we'll be home for christmas. Bugger all you, or anyone else for that matter can do about it.
S razhdestvom vas, sudar'.
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xh'duality
Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Interesting post, Eddz.
My advice? Find two people in IAC who can make a decision. Count and another ISS person get with them on TS and talk very blunty about options. So long as no one lets their egos get in the way, I'd be willing to bet they could solve this whole thing in 10 mintues and come up with a solution that actually works.
NOW THAT SOUND'S LIKE A BAD IDEA Well ima sta out of that. I just take order's (only if pew pew is gonna be involved otherwise Ill pass). To be honest this can go on for the next couple month and no results. Same as soo many treat's already going around it's like ISS is realy now despreatly looking for more friend's to help em. AAA realy that bad??? I know I love theyre ghost tactic's wich work way to dam good . Well I guess this forum war will be raging for the next wile I guess (must say AAA have the best futurama forum Worrier's ever. Watch ya back's they might be wayting for ya.
PS.: Hope to see someday this froum War will come to an end and we know already who the winner's are for the forum war. SOD must get first price for flamming em all 
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Hehulk
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:01:00 -
[130]
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Butter Dog I'm sure your members are laughing it up too, as they log back into the F4 station to find new owners.
What exactly will it take for you to understand that most of IAC are behind the leadership... and the more you say, the more IAC change their mind and commit 
Well, for me personally, more than the 8-10 IAC (and 50 or so priory members) on here going IAC is fine, we are repelling the infidal, etc etc. It smacks of ASCN about 5 weeks ago, for me. ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.23 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo You in particular, FowlPlayChiken, have been gumflapping these threads with a truly inexplicable 'ez noobcakes' attitude - I say inexplicable here because the emergence of our associates has all too likely presuaded your management to hastily proclaim a victory of helping everyone, their mum and third cousins take f4,
1.) I've no idea, when the rest of MC seems to be able to keep relative silence on these threads (as they have been asked to do), why FPC continues to post in them.
2.) The role of the MC in taking F4R will be detailed soon enough. IĈm quite looking forward to the write up. I will need to neither embellish nor romanticize our involvement in order for it to be clear.
3.) Insofar as all of the five different threads about this subject? What happens from this point forward is, quite simply, out of our hands and up to those whom it directly affects on a day to day basis.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo You in particular, FowlPlayChiken, have been gumflapping these threads with a truly inexplicable 'ez noobcakes' attitude - I say inexplicable here because the emergence of our associates has all too likely presuaded your management to hastily proclaim a victory of helping everyone, their mum and third cousins take f4,
1.) I've no idea, when the rest of MC seems to be able to keep relative silence on these threads (as they have been asked to do), why FPC continues to post in them.
2.) The role of the MC in taking F4R will be detailed soon enough. IĈm quite looking forward to the write up. I will need to neither embellish nor romanticize our involvement in order for it to be clear.
3.) Insofar as all of the five different threads about this subject? What happens from this point forward is, quite simply, out of our hands and up to those whom it directly affects on a day to day basis.
yes another thread about how you did not fail to accomplish your objective and that the other 2 outpost's were just "bonus's".
hurry up and finish the contract so i can hire you to take the outpost back .
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Julien Derida
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.24 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
yes another thread about how you did not fail to accomplish your objective and that the other 2 outpost's were just "bonus's".
hurry up and finish the contract so i can hire you to take the outpost back .
Hurry up and apply to FRICK Foo. We <3 you. ----------------------------------------
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.24 08:09:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Omeega thank you!
lot's of work :) (and bashing from evil thug "OMG WHO IS THAT YELLOW DUDE?!?!*)
I CAN SO IMAGINE THAT 
FUTURAMA SIGS WILL BE AFTER CHRISTMAS ! <3 BENDER !
Zoidberg > Bender 
QFT
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
yes another thread about how you did not fail to accomplish your objective and that the other 2 outpost's were just "bonus's".
hurry up and finish the contract so i can hire you to take the outpost back .
Hurry up and apply to FRICK Foo. We <3 you.
You can't have him.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
yes another thread about how you did not fail to accomplish your objective and that the other 2 outpost's were just "bonus's".
hurry up and finish the contract so i can hire you to take the outpost back .
Hurry up and apply to FRICK Foo. We <3 you.
Trax didn't come mining with me, it can never be the same  
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
yes another thread about how you did not fail to accomplish your objective and that the other 2 outpost's were just "bonus's".
hurry up and finish the contract so i can hire you to take the outpost back .
Hurry up and apply to FRICK Foo. We <3 you.
You can't have him.
And you can't have him either, Brutor.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.24 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene 3.) Insofar as all of the five different threads about this subject? What happens from this point forward is, quite simply, out of our hands and up to those whom it directly affects on a day to day basis.
It would be a shame if ISS doesn't pay for your capital losses, should you take any, and force your army to move on to your next contract. We do enjoy fighting MC. We will probably end up fighting with or against you again at somepoint and to be honest its nice to see professionalism from your fold. In a game as ruthless as EVE to see a titan sitting open to destruction by McFIX.... I would be confident to sit my capitals beside McFix if we were to ever did pay for their service.
For the record to the public, just so people bashing MC and KIA for trying to broker talks with IAC, it was I who talked to Seleene about IAC seeking discussion with ISS leaders and how they felt about the war in general. That is my job. Doesn't mean we are going for peace but I would be neglectful as an elected executive to not have open coms and to them to voice EVERY members gamestyle ( read that as not just the PVPers ) of my alliance.
<3 seleene ( even though I blame you for the hurricanes missing turret <3 ) and <3 MC. YARR to the future!
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
<3 seleene ( even though I blame you for the hurricanes missing turret <3 ) and <3 MC. YARR to the future!
amen and Merry Christmas MC, perhaps if you wern't constantly trying to kill me we could have drinks sometime 
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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.25 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken heh, on a completely unrelated side note, i always figured the whole russian logofski joke was just that; an overexageration of the actions of a couple pilots. I was surprised and astounded when 100 of them logged off together for future action.
Welcome to the sunny southeast.
To quote an alliance mate's post at http://forums.maelstromalliance.com/viewtopic.php?t=1828
"On the twelth day of christmass UNL gave to me, 12 smart bomb kills 11 cheaters banned 10 russians retreating 9 noobs dead at a starbase 8 exploits a-nerfing 7 deepsafes discovered 6 snipers popping 5 instant logoffs 4 russians speaking 3 corpses floating 2 plexxers ganked and A coward sitting in a starbase"

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Man1ac
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.25 06:36:00 -
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Sgt Napalm
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys All this bull on the forums, this war is unproductive, for both parties, and they should end while they got the chance. This is gonna get so damn ugly otherwise.
I agree.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian
Originally by: FowlPlayChiken heh, on a completely unrelated side note, i always figured the whole russian logofski joke was just that; an overexageration of the actions of a couple pilots. I was surprised and astounded when 100 of them logged off together for future action.
Welcome to the sunny southeast.
To quote an alliance mate's post at http://forums.maelstromalliance.com/viewtopic.php?t=1828
"On the twelth day of christmass UNL gave to me, 12 smart bomb kills 11 cheaters banned 10 russians retreating 9 noobs dead at a starbase 8 exploits a-nerfing 7 deepsafes discovered 6 snipers popping 5 instant logoffs 4 russians speaking 3 corpses floating 2 plexxers ganked and A coward sitting in a starbase"

Man, thats pretty harsh tbh.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sgt Napalm
Originally by: Gariuys All this bull on the forums, this war is unproductive, for both parties, and they should end while they got the chance. This is gonna get so damn ugly otherwise.
I agree.
When it is all said and done and ISS is alone with IAC in a political discussion here are some things I will be brining up.
Why is your navy under the impression you were going to take 3 outposts?
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: shanda captison Edited by: shanda captison on 18/12/2006 00:36:44
Originally by: Kaylana Syi So ISS shareholders, how do you like your isk being used? Could have built a new outpost with this type of showing me thinks.
I think you ll find we put up a new outpost a few weeks ago. 
You could have had two 
Sorry hun you got 3 nice ones.
Why is your Leadership thinking they were going to take 3 outpots?
Originally by: Serenity Steele How many more pages before it clicks?
IAC, you are on the receiving end of your leaders own diplomatic policy towards ISS.
Unstable and swinging standings, Establishing outposts right next to the ISS Flagship stations without even diplomatic contact, continous expansion right into the system between ISS and Empire, and announcing -10 standings with Bravado on TV.
When your leadership were no longer clear in IAC intentions towards the ISS POS, they put IAC into the 'serious threat box'.
Your change of leadership looked like a hopeful ploy, until ever IAC member posting on this forum (and in EvEmail) show exactly the audacity and bravado that lead to this situation in the first place.
Your remaining stations are now in my 'return on (war) investment' box.
As a apolitical entity how do you spin bringing in a business partner of tenerifis who has history hating our leadership and is in a war with us to threaten all 3 of our outpots?
Originally by: The Enslaver Oh for christs sake IAC; stop for a minute. Take a look at the complete and utter mess that Tyrrax has got you into. You think you have the moral high ground? Plain and simply, Tyrrax/n sx had said 'No.' to the question of 'do you intend to attack ISS stations?'. There is no other relevant points to this, because, again, simply, if the answer had been 'No.', then U'K, FIX, and LV wouldn't be here, ensuring that you never get the chance to attack the stations. Which of course, you still haven't ruled out.
Don't for one moment think you are in the right, and if you are curious who caused all this, look to your own leaders. Fact is, if one line on IAC's part had been different, this situation wouldn't be happening right now. That's all there is to it. Live with it.
Why are your own high ups under the impression you were only going to take one outpost when you attacked the Sov in JBY, which didn't fall ONLY because AAA showed up, and G-7 which wasn't attacked because ISS is now seeking at minimum a 2 week cease fire?
Originally by: Nyphur
Exactly. Though no official statement has been made yet (and this isn't one), I believe that the sole reason for us (ISS) taking the station in F4 is to disarm IAC of their logistical ability to base strike forces out of the outpost one jump from our own and use it as a platform from which to disrupt trade and possibly strike at our own outposts.
ISS stareholders, the general public and IAC should know why ISS and Friends are attacking the leadership of IAC's credibility with spin war when it seems that they too are lacking some truth. Or is it... ISS has been lying and when the war was going good for them the true nature of the beast showed its ugly head. They are scared that they entered a political war, which they did, and now are facing hard times in the south if we can't work out our differences.
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Xander Magnus
Caldari Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:06:00 -
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Well, the general public is not very impressed with the quotes you presented here. In fact I find the post presented not very supportive of your case. I'll just take this one:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi As a apolitical entity how do you spin bringing in a business partner of tenerifis who has history hating our leadership and is in a war with us to threaten all 3 of our outpots?
Just: huh? They are at war with you right? So why shouldn't they bring in this partner?
What if ISS first intention was to take all three of the outposts? They were under the impression you were going for their outposts, so that would've been perfectly understandable. But I don't find it very strange that the real intentions of ISS weren't clear to all of their members right from the start. With an alliance as large as ISS I can only imagine some of them are spies.
Fact is you initiated hostilities, be it with good reason or not. Now some are talking of peace and you keep painting ISS black here on the forums, which will not be very helpfull for peacetalks. If you're not interested in peace, just say so, but if not try to be constructive and don't clutch for straws.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Magnus rubbish
Yet another 1 man corp post that have no grasp on the situation.
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xander Magnus Well, the general public is not very impressed with the quotes you presented here. In fact I find the post presented not very supportive of your case. I'll just take this one:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi As a apolitical entity how do you spin bringing in a business partner of tenerifis who has history hating our leadership and is in a war with us to threaten all 3 of our outpots?
Just: huh? They are at war with you right? So why shouldn't they bring in this partner?
What if ISS first intention was to take all three of the outposts? They were under the impression you were going for their outposts, so that would've been perfectly understandable. But I don't find it very strange that the real intentions of ISS weren't clear to all of their members right from the start. With an alliance as large as ISS I can only imagine some of them are spies.
Fact is you initiated hostilities, be it with good reason or not. Now some are talking of peace and you keep painting ISS black here on the forums, which will not be very helpfull for peacetalks. If you're not interested in peace, just say so, but if not try to be constructive and don't clutch for straws.
Dude you're not the general public, so stop acting like you're writing on behalf of the general public.
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Xander Magnus
Caldari Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Magnus on 25/12/2006 10:42:23
Originally by: Kaylana Syi the general public and IAC should know...
So on one hand you mention us and drag us into this discussion, but when the general public adresses you all of a sudden we are simply people that have no grasp of the situation? Just answer me this one question then: how does your example I quoted make ISS political? Because I fear you don't know what it means.
And to add: yes, I realize I'm just one in many, so I don't speak for all. But my concerns are genuine.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 25/12/2006 10:45:25
Originally by: Xander Magnus Edited by: Xander Magnus on 25/12/2006 10:42:23
Originally by: Kaylana Syi the general public and IAC should know...
So on one hand you mention us and drag us into this discussion, but when the general public adresses you all of a sudden we are simply people that have no grasp of the situation? Just answer me this one question then: how does your example I quoted make ISS political? Because I fear you don't know what it means.
And to add: yes, I realize I'm just one in many, so I don't speak for all. But my concerns are genuine.
One Man Corps are ->
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.25 10:50:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 25/12/2006 10:50:46 edit > quote button LOL
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