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Goodtime Girl Amarr Anger Management	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:08:00 - [301] Quote: To be more accurate, I think you should mention that your info comes from some guy, who supposedly talked to anouther guy... Was he a butler
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:08:00 - [302] IAC vs ISS threads are the best <3 for s h i t storms and clusterfu c ks ( the real reason for the war omg ! o_0 ) http://eve.klaki.net/
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:09:00 - [303] Edited by: Butter Dog on 30/12/2006 03:16:06 Originally by: Seleene LOL!!! You just made yourself look like a complete military idiot with this statement. Holy hell! Dude, WE? Who is WE?? You mean the 2-4 ISS Dreads alongside the 20 - 25 MC/FIX/UK/Tyrell dreads? Wait a minute... Are you actually suggesting that when we dropped our cap fleet into siege mode that 30-40 AAA Dreads would not have dropped in right on top of us? Dude, I've seen more military sense and clarity in a painting by Picasso. LOL Lets assume for one second your intuition is right about that particular fight. Please explain to me and the rest of the EVE community, why you outright REFUSED further offensive involvement with AAA in the picture. You were scared, thats why. You fear AAA. As for the dread comment, most of the Capitals I saw when I was operating a dread on offensives came from FIX, with another 3 from TYC, another 3 from UK, and an average of 5 from you. Hardly carrying the siege. Also, you seemed to have participation issues, much like parts of ISS I freely admit. For example, you totally messed up unanchoring your POS in F4, giving IAC a foothold in the system again. You claimed that giving a message to ISS 1 hour before downtime when no-one was online was enough notice, and without adequate force protection you STILL chose to pull down the tower, and IAC raced in and stole it from you. Poor judgement ftl. Originally by: Seleene Here is a point - without MC, the battleground right now would be Tycho and Marginis. Dude, after all the sleepless nights my people put into this job, for you to have the balls to say it was a cakewalk or easy... you're living on another plane of reality, man. We gave our all on this job and all you can do is whine because some people talked mean to you? Well lets look at the evidence: * ISS contract MC to take 3 IAC stations * Coalition takes F4 station against zero resistance with overwhelming force * AAA turn up with 50 BS and 30 support * MC refuse further offensive involvement Or how about the last time, when you failed again to take IAC's stations, and left claiming it was the 'end of the contract'. Originally by: Seleene Soooo... I gave ten billion ISK to myself? Dude, I've been very clear - the target was no IAC; it was Tyrrax. Our mandate for Prohibition I was, "Make him lose some sleep." That is it. It was a joke to our client (one person, BTW). Now, I understand that most people in EVE live in a world about political goals and objectives, etc... Well, there are also a lot of very rich and bored people out there who sometimes just wanna blow some cash and watch the fireworks. It doesn't have to make sense but not every merc contract is going to. People with money are crazy. So, you're saying that I told someone in a private convo that there was no client for that job? Interesting. Show me. Weak. Very weak. "Someone" paid "10bn" to annoy Tyrrax. This just gets better and better. You know, I know, all of eve knows it - you and are the one who wanted to cause him some pain. Personal dislikes should not rule professional businesses, as you are allegedly, but it seems in your case you make the odd exception. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:09:00 - [304] Istvaan pulls on a fine cigar Time for phase two.
Weirda Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:12:00 - [305] Originally by: Goodtime Girl Edited by: Goodtime Girl on 30/12/2006 02:42:13 Quote: Istvaan, this is you most ingenious ploy yet, having BD undermine every isk of investment that ISS ever had as agent of GHSC... brilliant!!! kudos to tyraxx as well, am sure he in on it too (smart man)! What a twist in the plot .... BD being paid by the IAC to destroy the ISS... /me reaches for the HaganDaas and waits for the next episode. no - he was never paid. all social engineered... BD, the perfect stooge, and causing everyone to hate ISS and destroy all they made - had to come from within. the shareholders themself will destroy ISS. again - think hard. Weirda now see this so perfectly clear. GH-SC - respect. /tinfoil __ Weirda Join QotSA
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:12:00 - [306] Originally by: Lorth To be more accurate, I think you should mention that your info comes from some guy, who supposedly talked to anouther guy... Do you really expect someone to believe propoganda based on a game of telephone? Yup.. there is one thing lacking ofc from this whole dramafest.. proof. Also... where is the motive? If there was no employer, then where is the motive for Operation Prohibition?... anybody who watches CSI, knows there has to be a motive. If there was no employer then either MC or FIX had to have political motivations for the attack... and that would mean MC is not really a merc corp.. but then FIX isn't a merc alliance either. You know what, I think the key to all this is the MC <> FIX relationship.... what is it? So many questions, too few answers... sigh Oh yes and proof BD.. proof ....!!
Dal Thrax Caldari House Of Troy	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:12:00 - [307] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually Seleene, the orders were intitiated by MC. Count told me directly that he doesnt mind my posts on eve-o, because he knows I speak for myself and not in an official capacity. So I'm sorry I refused to obey your orders, but you have sweet FA to do with me and I could not care less what you wish for. If you might recall, your contract was NOT just the taking of the F4 outpost. Serenity Steele was about to wire over payment for IAC's other two outposts, inf act I think he was late doing so, until AAA scared you half to death. At that point you told ISS you would have refunded the money is it had already been paid. Way to go. I even had to spin it on the forums, lying that F4 was the main objective to help MC save some face. I regret doing that now, I should have just told the truth right from the very beginning. Pardon me but isn't it in the best interests of ISS not to have a wider war? After all AAA are potentially paying customers as well.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:13:00 - [308] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Seleene So, you're saying that I told someone in a private convo that there was no client for that job? Interesting. Show me. Weak. Very weak. "Someone" paid "10bn" to annoy Tyrrax. This just gets better and better. You know, I know, all of eve knows it - you and are the one who wanted to cause him some pain. Personal dislikes should not rule professional businesses, as you are allegedly, but it seems in your case you make the odd exception. So show the eager public the proof that you have then.
Goodtime Girl Amarr Anger Management	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:13:00 - [309] Did the Butler pay MC
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:14:00 - [310] tbh if I had ten billion isk spare, I'd happily pay the MC to wind tyrrax up with it. OR maybe pay COW to do it. i kid i kid i love you tyrrax! in the face (some more) _ My alliance doesn't know this yet, but whatever I say completely represents them, cos i'm always right

BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:15:00 - [311] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Istvaan pulls on a fine cigar Time for phase two.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:16:00 - [312] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Istvaan pulls on a fine cigar Time for phase two. Welcome back to EVE, now uninstall WoW like I did and never return again. :) Waagaa feels a shiver across his spine The evil man himself is on the scene. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:17:00 - [313] Amusingly whilst BD is wailing at the decision not to engage the aaa capital fleet and siege a pos, apparently motivated by MC not wanting to lose because it's bad for the image. So like, what if they had sieged, and won? And killed a load of aAa battleships? How would that look on the resumT? Hell, how would the ATTEMPT look on the resumT? It would take brass balls of steel and only add to the reputation, I reckon. Yet they still didn't make the call. Go figure, maybe the odds were really THAT BAD. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:22:00 - [314] I really do not want to drag tactical and strategical information and or opinions of my own into this, because for a rational discussion about the viability of a POS siege like that you'd have to think about the involved parties, their qualities, skillpoints, experience, etc. Let's just say that numbers don't say everything. In the end, you paid us to lead the POS sieges. We fielded a very sizable amount of cap ships on capital ops and Seleene singlehandedly led every single one of them. As one of Seleene's military people, I know what we took into account and why we didn't do it, but if I were to lay out the whole equation here that would probably be food for 20 pages of flames, so ehm... Yeah, we get paid to make these kind of calls because we know what we're doing. I've seen you lead ISSN fleets BD and while you're a nice guy and great for certain gangs, you do not have the experience that a lot of the people around Seleene have and that told him which things to take into account. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:23:00 - [315] Originally by: Butter Dog Added 1+1 together yet? 2! i winz the thread lal
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:23:00 - [316] Originally by: Envoy6 Originally by: Press Officer Guess again Hi Raste! Still being the worst claw pilot ever and FCing LV fleets to ass-handings? Mm, that's not me, I've got no qualms posting with my main. Thanks for the love though, whoever you are. ===This is a sig=== "no matter where you are or what you're doing, you know that down in the southeast, LV and RA are trying to stab each other in the face." -- Cadiz ==============
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:23:00 - [317] Originally by: Butter Dog Seleene told someone who is a high ranking person in ISS, who passed the info to me. Added 1+1 together yet? Yes..... but its your reputation or his, you are gonna have to chose. Welcome to forum hell.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:24:00 - [318] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Yeah, we get paid to make these kind of calls because we know what we're doing. I've seen you lead ISSN fleets BD and while you're a nice guy and great for certain gangs, you do not have the experience that a lot of the people around Seleene have and that told him which things to take into account. :) There was a point blank refusal to engage AAA in offensive operations, don't try and spin this any other way ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:24:00 - [319] Originally by: Butter Dog I'm not going to compromise my source, that would be incredibly stupid of me. You know it, I know it, do don't even go there. I'm going there. Because by posting accusations as large as this one, then failing to back them up, other then saying you supposedly had a conversation with some guy who's knows someother guy, your making your self look really bad. Really I'm only asking to help you out, honest.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:26:00 - [320] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Yeah, we get paid to make these kind of calls because we know what we're doing. I've seen you lead ISSN fleets BD and while you're a nice guy and great for certain gangs, you do not have the experience that a lot of the people around Seleene have and that told him which things to take into account. :) There was a point blank refusal to engage AAA in offensive operations, don't try and spin this any other way I would put an MC fleet counting 100 vs 100 AAA any day if the contract needs it and the numbers look reasonable. Having other parties involved in my fleet might make me take into consideration other things than just numbers: - Infiltration level - Fittings - Skillpoint - Balls - Experience - Retardness That's the part of my post that you didn't bother quoting. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.

Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:26:00 - [321] Originally by: Goodtime Girl Did the Butler pay MC _ My alliance doesn't know this yet, but whatever I say completely represents them, cos i'm always right
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:26:00 - [322] Originally by: Butter Dog most of the Capitals I saw when I was operating a dread on offensives came from FIX, with another 3 from TYC, another 3 from UK, and an average of 5 from you. Hardly carrying the siege. Absolute lunacy. Originally by: Seleene So, you're saying that I told someone in a private convo that there was no client for that job? Interesting. Show me. Weak. Very weak. Quote: "Someone" paid "10bn" to annoy Tyrrax. This just gets better and better. You know, I know, all of eve knows it - you and are the one who wanted to cause him some pain. Personal dislikes should not rule professional businesses, as you are allegedly, but it seems in your case you make the odd exception. Ummm... OK. You win. The last time I met him in person, my hate actually propelled me to grab a knife and attempt to cut off his ponytail. Our relationship has never been the same since. Holy ****, dude. As for your "source", I look forward to his statements on this matter tommorow, as does my entire alliance. - Fight the Darkness!
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:31:00 - [323] Haha, you lose the thread Seleene. Its been fun. Now I'm off to bed. Try not to tell me what to do in the future. PS - don't have nightmares about AAA while I'm gone ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Sergio Ling Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:32:00 - [324] Originally by: Butter Dog Haha, you lose the thread Seleene. Its been fun. Now I'm off to bed. Try not to tell me what to do in the future. PS - don't have nightmares about AAA while I'm gone no see, the part where he pwnd your 'OMGREVELATION' was where HE won the thread (or She, as some of you romantically still hold on to) _ My alliance doesn't know this yet, but whatever I say completely represents them, cos i'm always right
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:33:00 - [325] WTF? You can't just declare your self the winner, and then leave? Spoil sport, I was having a termendous amount of fun with this.
Goodtime Girl Amarr Anger Management	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:34:00 - [326] Can we have the next installment on BoBTV .. opps ... sorry a spiralisum there. EveTV
Lady Ghoulia Eternal-Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:34:00 - [327] Originally by: Lorth WTF? You can't just declare your self the winner, and then leave? Spoil sport, I was having a termendous amount of fun with this. GOD TO BED LORTH I won this thread. You came 13th
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:37:00 - [328] Edited by: nickky01 on 30/12/2006 03:37:25 Originally by: Lady Ghoulia Originally by: Lorth WTF? You can't just declare your self the winner, and then leave? Spoil sport, I was having a termendous amount of fun with this. GOD TO BED LORTH I won this thread. You came 13th clearly, i already won the thread. proof is near the top of page 12 edit* proof: Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Butter Dog Added 1+1 together yet? 2! i winz the thread lal
Lady Ghoulia Eternal-Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:37:00 - [329] Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: Lady Ghoulia Originally by: Lorth WTF? You can't just declare your self the winner, and then leave? Spoil sport, I was having a termendous amount of fun with this. GOD TO BED LORTH I won this thread. You came 13th clearly, i already won the thread. proof is near the top of page 12 shiiiiit, true, you DO winz the thread
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.30 03:40:00 - [330] Originally by: Butter Dog Haha, you lose the thread Seleene. Its been fun. Now I'm off to bed. Try not to tell me what to do in the future. PS - don't have nightmares about AAA while I'm gone Sorry BD, but you didn't win anything.... at least not yet.... you made your opening statment, yes it is pretty powerful stuff, what you are saying if true could seriously tarnish MC's reputation, and possibly curtail their asking price for contracts. But you still have to provide evidence, exhibits A and B. A for the fight that could have been won, but MC refused to engage in. B for the source of your information about Operation Prohibition. So far you have provided neither... nothing.. no logs, TS recordings, no witnesses, expert or otherwise.... Tomorrow once you have rested, the onus will be on you to substantiate your claims... or to put it mildly you will never hear the end of it. You don't ruin reputations like MC's without evidence.. it just doesn't happen... all you will achieve is ruining your own, or whatever is left of it.



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