EVE Search - iss/iac update

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions

iss/iac update

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20] 30 .. 30 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 5 post(s)
Ice Ghost Gallente Frontier Worlds Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:21:00 - [571] Edited by: Ice Ghost on 30/12/2006 20:23:30 /tin foil hat on Myself wondering whether is a kind of plot - and some Tyrrax Thorrk's statement - soon everything is going to be revealed & changed, his ties to GHSC, GHSC prominent person apperance in this thread... Butter Dog acts like someone who is really trying to sink ISS
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:22:00 - [572] Originally by: petergriffen [ The ONLY thing you have brought to light, as I said, is a screenshot of a message from a private forum, which is up for debate as the message itself can be construed in a number of ways, depending on who's reading it. You're not the first person to call MC's reputation into question, nor will you be the last. man.. ISS is your primary employer.. in the PM he says MC are cowards and would not fight AAA for love nor money? This is not some random person.. he is the leader of the alliance that has been hiring MC the most for the last so many years. Its not that complicated to understand.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:22:00 - [573] Originally by: petergriffen You're not the first person to call MC's reputation into question, nor will you be the last. Did you even read what one of your ex-Leaders had to say? I believe he left before you joined for some very specific reasons, which are shockingly similar to what I am saying. Coincidence? I think not. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:23:00 - [574] Originally by: Ice Ghost Butter Dog acts like someone who is really trying to sink ISS /tin foil hat off Seriously, ISS would not have come into this, and that screenshot would never have been published if Count had not lied about me. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:25:00 - [575] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Originally by: Lorth Maybe this thread could be a little better if (aside from BD) we could all agree that dropping into siege in front of a hostile POS with an opponent like AAA in the system with simular numbers is generally not thought of as a good idea. Don't go there, please don't. :) Ohh - Ooh I was gonna say I'm in the Dianabolic school of thought on this one... But now I know why I fly T1 :P
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:25:00 - [576] Edited by: maGz on 30/12/2006 20:25:35 Btw. can we have an update to the actual thread-topic - what's going on down there? ____________
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:25:00 - [577] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: petergriffen [ The ONLY thing you have brought to light, as I said, is a screenshot of a message from a private forum, which is up for debate as the message itself can be construed in a number of ways, depending on who's reading it. You're not the first person to call MC's reputation into question, nor will you be the last. man.. ISS is your primary employer.. in the PM he says MC are cowards and would not fight AAA for love nor money? This is not some random person.. he is the leader of the alliance that has been hiring MC the most for the last so many years. Its not that complicated to understand. I don't work for ISS, I work for MC, and right now MC isn't working for ISS. I have acknowledged the screenshot and the contents within. I am well aware that someone's reputation may be in question. What I'm saying is, wait until Count makes a statement before jumping to conclusions. Let the man defend himself before jumping at his throat. As far as everything else in the thread, 'proof or stfu' I'm working on it!
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:26:00 - [578] Originally by: Nez Perces man.. ISS is your primary employer.. in the PM he says MC are cowards and would not fight AAA for love nor money? Interesting claim. We have openly done a lot of work for ISS, sit eggs, latest contract in F4R, etc. Not that I'm 100% informed, but I think the "single very rich bored player" at least spent as much on us during 2006 than ISS did. ISS are and have been a good customer, but nowhere near our "primary employer". :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:26:00 - [579] Macchiavelli The Prince, Chapter XII Mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. ----- IM not really offended by what count said, tbh. Macchiavelli was dead on. lol bawk:-p Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:28:00 - [580] Edited by: petergriffen on 30/12/2006 20:28:43 Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Macchiavelli The Prince, Chapter XII Mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. ----- IM not really offended by what count said, tbh. Macchiavelli was dead on. lol bawk:-p agreed I'm working on it!

Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:37:00 - [581] Originally by: Butter Dog Oh god, now you're just trolling. No-one is ridiculing me here. All my points stand, pretty much uncontested and with proof. I've quoted my sources. You'll notice several people who are NOT MC are actually saying that they like what I'm saying. I would like to refute every single one of your comments. And would like to point out that I have been doing so since I came into this thread. About the only thing we can agree on is that MC didn't want to fight AAA, a point which we agreed to on page 8 or so, and has never been in contestation. Now where is your proof, on issues like say, the non-client in the last IAC contract. A point which pretty much everyone in this thread has been contesting, and in which you havn't brought the slightest shread of evidence for, save for 12 pages of rambling insiting your right.
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:38:00 - [582] At this point I would like to offer an IAC perspective. We're not interested in ButterDog, MC's performance, decisions, tactics whatsoever, that's entirely between ButterDog, ISS and MC. For IAC, what this 20 page of joy shows blatently to the EVE Community is that Count Tasessine is a liar and two faced operator. Before this entire conflict started, I personally highlighted Count as a deceiptful, disrespectful leader who'd done nothing but sour the ISS/IAC relationship for the past 12 months. What we see now is, that he will sell himself to his cause and also respective audience no matter what. What LV and MC did for ISS in the last 3 weeks, is nothing short of awe-inspiring. To be thrown aside, as 'lacking guts' when the force and military organisation ISS actually commands is nothing short of 'meaningless' shows disrespect of the highest order. If I had come to the aid of ISS (paid or not), I right now would feel cheated and hung out to dry. For ISS' members, its only a matter of time before the same fate becomes of you. Count, you and your reign as the leader of ISS is now in the firing line of the greater EVE community. Good luck and may you get what you truly deserve.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:40:00 - [583] Originally by: n sx What LV and MC did for ISS in the last 3 weeks, is nothing short of awe-inspiring. To be thrown aside, as 'lacking guts' when the force and military organisation ISS actually commands is nothing short of 'meaningless' shows disrespect of the highest order. Thanks
smoogie Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:44:00 - [584] Edited by: smoogie on 30/12/2006 20:47:19 ISS, MC, and Butter Dog: I suspect you are all being manipulated by IAC/GHSC. Butter Dog, are you really sure the entity you were in contact with was the Count and those hateful evemails were from the MC? And if the were real MC, well then, I think Seleene just found the GHSC operative in MC.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:49:00 - [585] Personally im not at all angered at count. ANy quote taken out of context looks bad. I doubt count meant offense. Look at the quote I posted above. its pure fact, tbh. LV and FIX were not paid to be there and had every right to withdraw. they were not cowardly for doing so, as count said. they had something to risk losing to metagame logonski cap gank fleets. and, as count said (in context) about the MC is 100% true. we arent cowards. we are buisnessmen. Sel is a mercenary captain. To know what that means, you have but to read the machiavelli quote count referenced and which I posted above Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:52:00 - [586] Originally by: smoogie Edited by: smoogie on 30/12/2006 20:47:19 ISS, MC, and Butter Dog: I suspect you are all being manipulated by IAC/GHSC. Butter Dog, are you really sure the entity you were in contact with was the Count and those hateful evemails were from the MC? And if the were real MC, well then, I think Seleene just found the GHSC operative in MC. Really, the last thing this thread needs is another boost to HG's ego. Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 20:56:00 - [587] Originally by: n sx If I had come to the aid of ISS (paid or not), I right now would feel cheated and hung out to dry. TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. If those were the true thoughts of Count (and no I'm certainly not calling fake on the screenie, looks fine to me) then there are one or two options open I guess. 1. Never use MC again (you don't use a service in RL if you even suspect you're not going to get what you pay for) but in return if you got a crappy service for your cash you'd be getting onto the boss about a refund, not moaning to your mates down the pub about it. Lets face it, this is a game, I'm certainly not afraid to say what I want, it's not gonna mean bad men on dark nights now is it? 2. Debunk the whole thing, write butter off as a raving loon. At the end of the day, people still have a choice whatever they think or what someone else would like them to think, some would never hire MC anyway - no loss, some that will would just look at the kinds of post that n sx just wrote (as an opposing entity it should be added) and still hire us anyway - no loss. Fact is we're very effective at what we do, to deny that in the face of enemy praise is just plain silly, and to call foul on any previous contracts is just disrespecting our contracted enemies. In fact the whole thread is pretty much win/win and a great community read.
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:04:00 - [588] Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:05:00 - [589] Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:07:00 - [590] lol @ mc Your forum skills seem to have weakened considerably. You failed in your contract objectives to take all three outposts, and your employer was dissapointed. Deal with it. Admit you're scared of AAA. Admit you won't take tough contracts. Admit you are risk averse. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that. Everything I have personally claimed has been done so based on evidence, which I have provided. Thats how my opnion is formed. I didnt just suddenly wake up one day and think 'I hate MC'. The problem people have is that, in truth, you are simply not as special as you claim to be, you are just very good at spinning events in your favour. You can't lose because you don't accept a contract you MIGHT lose. And even if you do fail, you just publically lie and state the objective was something other than it was. FACT: You were contracted to take three outposts. When you failed due to your fear of AAA, you then publically claimed, as I did to support you, that F4 was the only objective. You lied. You lied publically for the sake of your image. The truth is you will do pretty much ANYTHING to protect that image of yours, to the detriment of anyone around you. But now that I know your true colours, now I have seen your chronic lack of nads first hand, I lose all respect that I once held. The catalyst for all of this was one of your members evemailing me and telling me to 'STFU' - just remember that. This isnt some pointless campaign, I'm not one of your victims - I saw what you were like, I flew under your command, I looked at the evidence to hand, and I made the only logical conclusion I could. No amount of forum spin, PR, or repetitive postings from you which dodge the issues is going to change that. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.

FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:12:00 - [591] Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 30/12/2006 21:12:27 Now you TOO can own a part of the action! get your IAC/ISS conflict memorabilia today!! --->Linkage<--- BUY BUY BUY! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:15:00 - [592] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. interesting. I thought seleene always mantained that for the right price they would attack bob. So much for nuetrality
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:17:00 - [593] Edited by: petergriffen on 30/12/2006 21:18:31 Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. interesting. I thought seleene always mantained that for the right price they would attack bob. So much for nuetrality The right price and a PLAN. No amount of money for a contract would be enough unless it ended with the ultimate destruction of BoB. Otherwise it's nothing to gain, everything to lose. No doubt the ensuing battles would be one hell of a time, though :) I'm working on it!
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:18:00 - [594] Originally by: petergriffen Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. interesting. I thought seleene always mantained that for the right price they would attack bob. So much for nuetrality The right price and a PLAN. No amount of money for a contract would be enough unless it ended with the ultimate destruction of BoB, otherwise it's nothing to gain, everything to lose. umm your corpmate just said that they would "never attack bob, end of story." So seems pretty straightforward right there
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:19:00 - [595] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. interesting. I thought seleene always mantained that for the right price they would attack bob. So much for nuetrality Although I hate to be drawn on this one (it's been covered many times already) 1. Since when did mercs need to be neutral about anything? Did you make that rule up? 2. If you have the isk to cover the costs of the infrastructure/relocation/time and effort and a viable plan I'm sure we'll be on-board You don't do you? 3. We're all BoB alts anyway so you'd be paying us to kill ourselves.
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:19:00 - [596] Ask them again. I'm working on it!
Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:19:00 - [597] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. I thought the whole point of mercenaries was that they did what they were paid to do. And thus had no political affiliation. How can you claim to be a mercenary coalition when you're admitting that being hired to fight BOB would be not conducive to your continued existence? This can be extended to the contract from ISS. You were paid by them, you were hired by them. If you didn't want to do what they wanted you shouldn't have taken their isk, or ratified your contract better. Professionalism at its best tbh. You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough.
Verone Veto.	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:22:00 - [598] Originally by: Butter Dog If anyone claimed the screenshot is fake, I will give a neutral party my login and password on the ISS forum so they can check my private messages. Can't say fairer than that. Maybe Nez could do it? Thats IF someone claims its fake. To settle the argument, I claim it's fake. People know my word in Eve, if the screen is genuine, I'll screenshot it and host it myself with proof it came from my computer desktop. I class my corp completely neutral in this argument, because frankly I don't care if you guys have beef with eachother. You can send me your details Eve-Mail if you're up to it. VETO FOR HIRE
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:24:00 - [599] Originally by: Ifni Originally by: Grimster Originally by: INZi Originally by: Grimster TBH I suspect most of the MC won't really care, isk is king. isk wasn't king when you where asked to pop BoB To take a dump on your own doorstep, just IMHO is never a wise thing, this has been debated over again more to lose than anyone could pay etc. Topic ended. I thought the whole point of mercenaries was that they did what they were paid to do. And thus had no political affiliation. How can you claim to be a mercenary coalition when you're admitting that being hired to fight BOB would be not conducive to your continued existence? This can be extended to the contract from ISS. You were paid by them, you were hired by them. If you didn't want to do what they wanted you shouldn't have taken their isk, or ratified your contract better. Professionalism at its best tbh. I'm pretty sure there's a recent thread discussing just that. We're not required to take any contract, we can pick and choose. As far as the most recent contract against IAC, Seleene already clarified in an earlier post, as did Count. No further explanation necessary, we're on a new topic now. I'm working on it!
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:25:00 - [600] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Butter Dog If anyone claimed the screenshot is fake, I will give a neutral party my login and password on the ISS forum so they can check my private messages. Can't say fairer than that. Maybe Nez could do it? Thats IF someone claims its fake. To settle the argument, I claim it's fake. People know my word in Eve, if the screen is genuine, I'll screenshot it and host it myself with proof it came from my computer desktop. I class my corp completely neutral in this argument, because frankly I don't care if you guys have beef with eachother. You can send me your details Eve-Mail if you're up to it. Agreed, I will send my ISS forum details to you. I'll convo you now in game. ------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.



Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 [20] 30 .. 30 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.