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Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.11 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Sara Dawn on 11/01/2007 21:28:54
http://inEVE.net/
The inEvE Skills Showroom is a place where you can upload your
character xml and have it ranked among all other eve players.
inEvE contains over 4000 characters and is rapidly growing and those
characters being constantly updated with over 700 updated / new
characters every 48 hours.
You'll enjoy viewing everyones skills and their path in becoming a
more skilled eve character and also be able to share your own skill
path in eve. By looking into what other people strong points are
you'll also be able to better train your own characters.
Features like ships flown, faction ships, skills and their levels,
their ranks, racial and bloodline statistics of all the population and
category rankings are just a few of the features that the site has.
The site itself is built upon the community request and feature
suggestions, for every new version a thread is started gathering
ideas for new features and thoughts on the current ones. Many of them
are updated in the new version.
We have been enjoying a rapid development of the site by having a new
site every couple months, I hope to be able to greatly improve that,
including more features at a faster pace.
Current Development Thread
History
My involvement in the skills business was inspired by two events,
the announcement of 50mil SP by Dr Caymus and the constant request for
help in training by BIG members having to describe/type their skills
to others for advice.
I was driven to create yet another great tool for BIG, my past work in
eve tools includes the website www.big-sales.net. I had a look at the
xml and thought I could with a bit of work make a website that would
allow people to upload their skills, at first I experimented with xml
transformations into html, that worked well but it lacked the great
things that could be done with that information, a "statistics" rankings
came to mind right away.
And so a parser for the xml was created and well tested, a couple bugs
fixed, it's to date the parser that still powers the upload/update of
inEvE.net, it parses the xml and inserts the information into a
database for easy query.
I then developed a web page that mimicked ccp's own character page,
and also created the top10 rankings by skill category, and then added
those two matrices by request.
At the same time I was also a great fan of Dr Caymus' thread of Top 20
skills link, sadly he has stopped updating it since Jan 2007, we
probably wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for him.
The site progressed, features where added, bugs where fixed. And then
I released a public version at that time located at
http://www.big-sales.net/public/skills/ usage was extremely low at
that time, but the site picked up and soon we where hitting 1000
characters :)
Recently last year I decided that the project had grown to a size that
it needed special attention, so it got a new home and a new domain
http://inEvE.net .
Current Features see the changelog: http://inEvE.net/skills/changelog.php
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Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.11 21:26:00 -
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The future
The site is currently growing at a very steady and rapid pace, I have
had to do a few changes to address performance issues, but for a good
while now it has been smooth sailing.
The site development I would dare say is completely based on the
feedback I get from everyone in my request for features posts, as long
as feedback and community participation is here the site will continue
to grown and evolve.
One of the big things we're seeing is the integration with EVEMon
[link] due to be released to the general public is a feature which
allows you to directly update your characters to the website
automatically. (No need to register with inEvE.net for that to work, it's up to you.)
Also please see the current development thread for up to date
information on the features being worked on in this new version and
the completed ones here(striked features).
Infrastructure & Technical Nonsense
Currently infrastructure for growth is not a problem, the site almost
has a full server for itself, not running much else there.
Available contracted bandwidth is 100Mbits, hosted in one of the best
Datacenters in Portugal.
The server itself isn't something special but a decently good machine,
P4 3.0Ghz HT, 1GB RAM, 250GB HDD SATA II.
load average: 0.44, 0.50, 0.57
In this last 4 days the web server transfered 40.6GB of information.
This is the last 24h bandwidth usage graph [link].
The database that contains the site information has 780 848 records
and uses 42.3MB.
Security and Accuracy of the Information
I want to reassure you that it has always been my pledge to keep your
information safe, I will never under any circumstance divulge any of
your information.
Your information (XML) when uploaded to the website is parsed and it's
information stored in different tables of the database, the xml is
automatically deleted by the webserver at the end of the upload and
parse process.
Another concern I'm being approached with is, the xml containing
the name and character id of the other characters in the account, that
information is not saved or even parsed, it's simply ignored and also
I have to say there's no point in having it in the xml.
Another common claimed security problem was the availability of your
character id, I have hidden that number, but I would like to point out
when you post on the eve-online forum your id is there, anyone can
click your picture and see the character id in your character picture.
Services
If corporations or alliances wish to have their own private, password
protected skills showroom, it is available for renting at 30mil /
month.
I offer the public site free of any charge or restriction, there are a
few features that only apply to manage a corp or a private site, those
are only available to corporations who rent a private copy of the
skills showroom.
http://inEvE.net
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Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.11 21:26:00 -
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(reserved for the future)
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Tripoli
XenTech
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Posted - 2007.01.12 00:53:00 -
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The Skills Showroom is one of my most frequently visited websites.
Tripoli's Skill Sheet
Keep up the good work, Sara. We all appreciate it! 
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320 of 341 skills trained. |
Sniperpirate
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.12 11:55:00 -
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indeed good work i love the site and its amazing how it has grown such a great deal :)
keep up the good work!!!!
its also good to see what ppl in your skill ranges are training etc etc :)
it sux that im going down that table as more ppl join but o well hehe!
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Memer Of The Xetic Alliance/Immensea Federation
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.12 22:46:00 -
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Added some Glue.
forum rules | [email protected]| Eve-CCG
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Reiisha
Satal's Legion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.13 03:07:00 -
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Finally, a sticky :)
EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.13 10:37:00 -
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Excellent, Very Nice !
gets the BIG seal of approval.
?me working on some useful skills ATm
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BIG Lottery, BIG Deal | RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
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Dr Caymus
Gallente
Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.18 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Caymus on 18/01/2007 04:52:59
Sara, congratulations again on bringing the Showroom - a truly outstanding site - to the EVE community, and thanks for providing this detailed and informative overview!!!
I look forward to ongoing use of the site and eagerly await your future features and developments
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Zoltaris
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Zoltaris on 18/01/2007 11:17:14
 Originally by: Sara Dawn
Another issue has come up with the database that has manifested itself has characters having some skills duplicated, this seems easier to fix.
Edania
This is obviously one of those case, all skills are duplicated...
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> Amongst the Top 10 |
DHU InMe
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.01.20 16:09:00 -
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not compatible in firefox.
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UI Overhaul
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&thread |
Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.20 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: DHU InMe
not compatible in firefox.
I only use firefox and i never seen any problems with the site using it.
What exactly was the problem that you had viewing it in your firefox?
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Edania
Caldari
Ordo Adeptus Astartes
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zoltaris
Edited by: Zoltaris on 18/01/2007 11:17:14
Originally by: Sara Dawn
Another issue has come up with the database that has manifested itself has characters having some skills duplicated, this seems easier to fix.
Edania
This is obviously one of those case, all skills are duplicated...
yep i got my few mins of fame there, when i saw the error i manually uploaded rather than used Evemon so it got sorted fairly fast.
I think the error may be related to a fatal bug in Evemon as it happened at the same time as i had to re-instal evemon due to fatal exceptions.
Quote:
my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
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De Vito
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.23 12:02:00 -
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nice site
Eμπιστoσύνη δε xaρiζετaι, kaτakτιέτaι |
Tripoli
XenTech
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Posted - 2007.01.24 03:42:00 -
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Trak (392)
ENI9MA (375)
I don't like being in third when I'm actually in first. Please fix. 
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321 of 341 skills trained. |
Slickster
Gallente
Luna Rossa Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.24 12:03:00 -
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make that 5th now tripoli 
Aluresta (412)
Trak (392)
ENI9MA (375)
AmarrEte (345)
Tripoli (321)
i know where your comin from as ive not been out of the top ten for a very long time 
To POD or to be PODDED that is the Question ? |
Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.24 19:44:00 -
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Unfortunatly it's caused by a database bug that i tought i had fixed a while ago, seems not.
Work has been keeping me busy every day of the day until late night, but i'll try my best to fix it tonight.
My apologies.
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Tripoli
XenTech
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Posted - 2007.01.25 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sara Dawn
My apologies.
No apologies necessary. Just a somewhat amusing bug, that's all.
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321 of 341 skills trained. |
Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.25 11:46:00 -
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I think i fixed it this time :| (i hope)
I feel like ccp by saying this, but this is a bug that only shows itself when the site is under heavy load.
So i cannot reproduce it to see if is fixed or not.
I'm cleaning the ones i find, so you may see your character without skills, just upload again.
I will most likely be seeking volunteers to help check if no one is uploading fakes and to check these problems.
Best Regards
Sara
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Eewec Ourbyni
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.26 06:59:00 -
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Seems that the "recently updated" Link has an error on line 8 and the login script is also having issues at times. I believe the "recently Updated" error message was talking about a get_assoc() command failing, and I *think* the login script was saying something similar. I'd say that this is down to an uncaught failure to grab info from the database as it seems to be fine now.... if a tad slow.
This is a sig...
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sternenfahrerin
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Posted - 2007.01.27 18:09:00 -
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???
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.29 14:44:00 -
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There does seem to be a bunch of character with skills listed a few times now...
/me pokes sara
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BIG Lottery, BIG Deal | RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
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Aenigma
Drones of Annihilation
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:03:00 -
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Yeah, i know the good man Drakma, but he hasn't got that many SP. Apparently the skills are taking into the calculation twice for each skill.
Visit the BattleClinic |
Arthalion Thoidon
Caldari
Satal's Legion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.30 14:02:00 -
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Great site and probably the only one I check as often as these forums. I just hope you manage to fix that bug with the double, tripple and even quadrupple( yes it's that bad) counting of skills as soon as possible.
Had that bug hit my uploaded data earlier today( 71mil instead of 35mil sp), just uploaded my data again and it was fixed. Now if only everyone else would do that ...
Keep up the good work!
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:31:00 -
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Bug is still there Sara...plus now when I log in I get a red "auto updating rankings"...but none of the old sections ever seem to load...
Might be an idea to set some sort of background parser to delete duplicate skills from records? There's no genuine excuse for having two skills with the same name after all.
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I don't mind you disagreeing with me. Just don't say I don't have the SKILLS to comment until you've looked at them. |
WhiskeyDP
The Druids
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:02:00 -
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whats up with the site? i uploaded a ne xml(used the eve-o xml) and everything was doubled i think when it got uploaded in the site
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eve is not all about isk, its about enjoying the game. lots of iskies is not the same as enjoying the game |
Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:02:00 -
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Yes the bug is still here :(
I'm at my 4th attempt to fix it :(
The problem is due to
- High load on the database server
- Concurrency of updates (people having evemon in more then one computer uploading the same character)
My last attempt included making all the process in db transactions, but it didnt work ...
I have not given up :( please bear with me for a little longer.
Best Regards
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Reiisha
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.01 15:09:00 -
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Did you block updates? It's not updating atm... The XML is updated, but the site still shows the old one, aswell as "outdated" next to it.
EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
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Jan Javaar
Minmatar
FireStar Inc
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jan Javaar on 01/02/2007 16:43:06
Yup, got the same problem as Reiisha, select xml, upload, then I get a blank upload.php page, and stats are not updated.
EDIT: tried in both IE and FF
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Sara Dawn
BIG
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Posted - 2007.02.01 18:16:00 -
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Yes, i should leave a message :| sry.
Another "patch" applied to fix skill duplication, lets see how this one does.
Updates Allowed
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