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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.28 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Ice Conch no forum bans allowed? doesnt that weed out 90% of the forum *****s who would make good forum mods?
No.
so you dont think dark shikari would be a good forum mod? 
Rule #1 for forum mods: You should know the rules and not break them. Forum *****s bend and break those rules a lot, as I'm sure you are aware of. That's the main reason why a "forum *****" can't get in. Secondly, DS's posting time would decrease and people would start getting worried.  ___
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.28 17:38:00 -
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If U make good englsh you bee good CArC.
Being a part of ISD is a blast, if you've ever been helped in eve this is a wonderful way to give back while getting the chance to explore the game from a new angle. Beyond the basics you'll also get chances to interact with the people at CCP more often and the members of the other ISD divisions.
Plus you get to spam threads \o/
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.28 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/01/2007 18:53:15
Originally by: Eldo Davip
Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Ice Conch no forum bans allowed? doesnt that weed out 90% of the forum *****s who would make good forum mods?
No.
so you dont think dark shikari would be a good forum mod? 
Rule #1 for forum mods: You should know the rules and not break them. Forum *snip* bend and break those rules a lot, as I'm sure you are aware of. That's the main reason why a "forum *snip*" can't get in. Secondly, DS's posting time would decrease and people would start getting worried. 
Pwnt by Eshtir 
Also, to become a moderator, one mustn't have any bans; this makes it completely impossible for anyone who frequently post on the forums to become a moderator, as the forum warning/ban system is designed specifically to penalize people who post more often, while benefiting people who troll and break the rules.
Example:
Forum hoe breaks a rule every 1000 posts. After 10,000 posts, he's banned forever. He probably had fewer bans per post than anyone else on all of EVE-O, but that doesn't matter; he's gone.
Troll posts a whole bunch of insults, flames, and outright attacks. He gets a warning or two, and moves to a new alt. No loss. I have seen quite a number of blatant trolls on the forum; often if you see a trolling thread, you can look at his last 15 posts and see that nearly all of them are insults or the like. However, since he doesn't post that much, its unlikely a moderator will ever notice these posts. I've seen people get away with telling people they would kill them IRL, massive sprees of curse words, and so on, without ever getting their posts even edited.
But if I even got remotely close to even touching the border of a rule, I'd get banned. And as I browse the forums I see boatloads of attacks and smacktalk that is far worse than what I've gotten warnings for in the past, yet never gets edited. I look back at it later, even after a mod cleans the thread, and its still not edited. I once got a warning for telling someone (without any insults) that there were too many whines about server lag on the forums and that they should try to be more constructive. I'm completely serious.
I don't fault the mods. The system is flawed, not its execution.
Wrangler told me he would fix this. Its been over a year. And I'm still waiting.
I hope that whoever joins the mod team in this recruitment drive attempts to counter the systemic bias of the current moderation system. That means tempbanning obvious trolls and flame-only characters on sight and judging the more prolific forum posters by their overall posting habits, not on a single post which may have crossed the line by a few angstroms.
P.S. I guess this is discussing moderation, but it is a reasonable discussion.
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Turix
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.28 19:34:00 -
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*Ties DS up and leaves him the corner, shhh *
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Suvetar
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.28 20:45:00 -
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We're just going to talk about recruitment here folks!
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.28 22:42:00 -
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Pick me! Pick me!
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Samirol
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Eldo Davip Rule #1 for forum mods: You should know the rules and not break them. Forum *snip* bend and break those rules a lot, as I'm sure you are aware of.
  
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.01.29 01:49:00 -
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So forumwhoring is a big plus?  ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:(((( |

Frug
SYOID Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.01.29 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 29/01/2007 05:49:27
Originally by: Wrangler It's a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) and Terms of Play (ToP), which basically means you might have access to information you may not tell others and some rules on how to behave. But it is legally binding and breaking it can have severe consequences. 
If you tell people CCP's secret alliance with BoB they will find you and do some kind of weird Icelandic torture on you involving the free goat you were supposed to get.
My appricashun:
Helo CPP I see u need forum mod 4 eve this is my app. Plz tak me i'm gud at gamez i play mmos and i use forums but sometimes its hard please email me
thx
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Viliny
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Posted - 2007.01.29 07:28:00 -
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I sent my application, hope their not overwhelmed by applications and that mine actually gets attention :)
The form i used didn't have specific questions about email clients or irc related experience... or even age. So that part kind of got left out from it.
Also, im not that sure it got sent either, it uses the cached username on the site to send the application, right? where would i get an answer in this case?
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Samirol
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Luigi Thirty So forumwhoring is a big plus? 
any respectable forum ***** will have reached 5 warnings, so no. It is better to be a lurker and make the few occasional post than post a lot.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.29 08:28:00 -
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HAY KAN AI APPLEH F+R THIZ JOBS?! AM GOOT -T TALKINGZ J00!!
No forum bans issued, a low amount of warnings may be accepted.
Darn 
Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore
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Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Luigi Thirty So forumwhoring is a big plus? 
any respectable forum ***** will have reached 5 warnings, so no. It is better to be a lurker and make the few occasional post than post a lot.
Not true, we have and have had some big posters. If you'd ever find out, which you wont, you'd be very surprised. 
Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 29/01/2007 12:41:55 Pfft. Sounds a bit too much like work to me. I mean, I suspect that correcting grammar on forum posts might not go down all that well...
Does posting 'IBTL' if you are actually locking a post count as 'spam'? That'd be worth it right there ...
And you don't have to have picked up warnings to have been an active poster. At least, I don't _think_ I've got any, and am on a 4/day posting average.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.29 13:29:00 -
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*cough* I think you'll find that the corporation recruitment channel is here. Naughty ISD.
As such- IBTM! \o/
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.01.29 13:47:00 -
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Just an idea....Why dont you pay people ISK, to be forum mods? ^^
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.29 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Edited by: James Lyrus on 29/01/2007 12:41:55 Pfft. Sounds a bit too much like work to me.
Not at all James. For most of us it just makes sense since we are on the forums as much as we are. I know I enjoy doing it. It really is a lot of fun and the other moderators are truly nutz!
However, when Wrangler breaks out the whips, most of us run.
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.29 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kreul Intentions
However, when Wrangler breaks out the whips, most of us run.
Some of accually stay around for Wranglers whips
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Laurelin1420
Gallente Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:12:00 -
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Mmmmmm whips
/me shivers  
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/01/2007 18:15:49
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Luigi Thirty So forumwhoring is a big plus? 
any respectable forum ***** will have reached 5 warnings, so no. It is better to be a lurker and make the few occasional post than post a lot.
Not true, we have and have had some big posters. If you'd ever find out, which you wont, you'd be very surprised. 
Oh its quite possible to find out... people do talk . 'tis just somewhat difficult 
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Samirol
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Samirol on 29/01/2007 18:19:15 people let stuff slip 
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kieron

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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:28:00 -
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There ahve been a large number of applications and the moderation team elads are screening them now. However, please be patient if you have not received a response after a week or two. The team leads still have to perform their other duties, regardless of Wrangler *****s the whip or not. 
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 29/01/2007 22:49:25
Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Luigi Thirty So forumwhoring is a big plus? 
any respectable forum ***** will have reached 5 warnings, so no. It is better to be a lurker and make the few occasional post than post a lot.
Yeah, it's hard to post several thousand times and not slip up here and there.
Every 1000 helpful forum posts should remove a warning from the record. Although DS would have negitive warnings, and just go off the deep end to even it out.
edit: Good god, STILL IBDS???
/me begins to form a search party.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Vult
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: kieron There ahve been a large number of applications and the moderation team elads are screening them now. However, please be patient if you have not received a response after a week or two. The team leads still have to perform their other duties, regardless of Wrangler *****s the whip or not. 
Judging by the number of typos in kieron's post, I'd say Wrangler's whip is currently *****ing quite nicely on his lil' knuckles.
But I wanna be a mod so I can hijack peoples' signatures... since no one ever hijacked mine...  --- Time to update my sig... or get it haxx0red by a mod... |
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:23:00 -
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Please, this thread is for moderator recruitment only, not for dicussing moderation.
If you have a question/comment/suggestion regarding moderation, we kindly ask you to email the forum moderator team at [email protected].
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Thank you to all of those who have applied so far - we have received a superb amount of applications and are busy reviewing them all. Please bear with us in the interim. Every person who has applied will receive a response to their application.
-Jacques'
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Marissa Price
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:28:00 -
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CCP couldn't PAY me to moderate this whiny bunch of forum *****s. I understand why. In a game where loss is permanent, you will have an above average amount of whiners.
Still, it would take some sort of creative reward (deposit 5 billion isk into my account on the first of every month) to even get me to consider such a masochistic undertaking.
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Neesa Corrinne
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:29:00 -
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CCP couldn't PAY me to moderate this whiny bunch of forum *****s. I understand why. In a game where loss is permanent, you will have an above average amount of whiners.
Still, it would take some sort of creative reward (deposit 5 billion isk into my account on the first of every month) to even get me to consider such a masochistic undertaking.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.30 03:55:00 -
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Once more - If you don't appreciate the work ISD or CRC does, there is no need to flame or troll. This isn't a thread to rant or whine. Stay civil. Stay on topic. ___
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.30 07:29:00 -
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I'm totally cool with ISD work .. but I dislike extra attention I get with my looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of forum rule breaks   Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore
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Dark Flare
Caldari Corpus PCG
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Posted - 2007.01.30 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Flare on 30/01/2007 13:33:38 I'd like to be a mod if you're still asking for people.
Been playing for 4months, almost 5 now, 18 years old, was an Op on an IRC channel for a year or so, and have run a forum before. (In fact, I still run one).
I just have one question.. My ingame char will be able to continue business as usual, right?
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