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It is no longer possible to launch a probe from a Scan Probe Launcher then use a ship with a Recon Probe Launcher to scan.

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Originally by: Helison

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From patch-notes:

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It is no longer possible to launch a probe from a Scan Probe Launcher then use a ship with a Recon Probe Launcher to scan.

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What does this mean???

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Originally by: Jiekon

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We are currently throttling user logins. This will mean queues for most people when they try to connect.

This is in place to prevent node and/or cluster crashes.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Helison

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From patch-notes:

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It is no longer possible to launch a probe from a Scan Probe Launcher then use a ship with a Recon Probe Launcher to scan.

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What does this mean???

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It means you cannot switch ships in order to utilize the shorter scan speed of recon probe launchers. If you switch ships after launching a probe, you will lose communications with the probe

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Originally by: Titts Galore

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Browser bookarks are removed, can't add new one's, and can't make sites trusted.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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Please delete the MachoNet folder from your cache dir.

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Originally by: Omber Zombie

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IG Browser bookmarks have been deleted, and you can't remake them (click add and nothing happens)

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Originally by: Shao Lyn

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Cyno Generator Module does not go "green" with activation on Recon ship with Cloak fitted. Cyno field works, Cloak works. Just don't get the module green glow when active. Time and fuel reduction are still correct.

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Originally by:

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Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken.

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Originally by: FireFoxx80

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Originally by:

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Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken.

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This makes the baby jesus cry.

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Originally by: andromeky

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i cant loggin now

i downloaded patch without any issues. i started up my husbands account to change a skill and closed EVE. proceded to restart eve to log myself in and i annot log in. It goes as far as authenticating whatever it is it authenticates n stops dead in the water.
Ive rebooted computer 4 times and tried again and i cannot get thru to logging in.

HELP!!!!!

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Originally by: andromeky

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Edited by: andromeky on 30/01/2007 12:40:44
lol. whats the log server. talk to me like im female!!! (i am female.. )

just deleted the machonet folder and still no luck. i get in a bit faster and a bit further (1 method past authentication) then stop again.

tell where to find the log server and illget it donne.LOL

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It is no longer possible to steal from a Starbase using a Carrier / Mothership / Titan

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Is there anything other than ISK you might be interested in?

Originally by: siliconix

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Edited by: siliconix on 30/01/2007 12:45:28
Edited by: siliconix on 30/01/2007 12:45:15
Shields and cap doesnt seem to recharge when docking/undocking.

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Originally by: andromeky

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log report sent. will wait for results

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• Mission bookmarks should no longer drop you 90km or further, from acceleration gates.


• The level 4 Assault-type missions have been changed. The encounter difficulty was modified, as well as some object names and gate types. The distance between beacons and gates have been greatly reduced.


• The distance between gate and beacon in the level 2 and 3 'Illegal Activity' mission #3 has been reduced.


• The commodity in the 'Flu Outbreak' mission has been changed from Antibiotics to Antiviral Drugs.

Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs?


I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?

technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken.

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Originally by: Baleorg

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what about 2006 ones?
they got an internal timestamp?

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Originally by: Beldaws

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Ok, we have a MAJOR problem!

The patch has removed Stront from the building requirements for the new scanner probes. Stront isn't a Tech2 component. I understand removing Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic Fibers, but you weren't susposed to remove Stront!

I've invested Billions in Stront to build these probes and have tons of probes on the market that I paid over 80k to build which now can be build for 20k. I don't mind you taking away the Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic fibers because I can use those for other things, but what the heck am I going to do with billions of isk worth of now useless Stront! I won't even be able to sell the stront for what I paid for it. Now that the probes don't take stront, the stront prices are going to crash. Either way I'm going to loose billions on this goof up.

Please put stront back in as a building material for the new probes.

Patch Notes:
"Tech2 components required for the production of the new scanner probes (Sift, Comb, Pursuit, Quest) have been removed. Mineral requirements have also been reduced and balanced accordingly."

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Originally by: Glaive

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Originally by: Beldaws

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Ok, we have a MAJOR problem!

The patch has removed Stront from the building requirements for the new scanner probes. Stront isn't a Tech2 component. I understand removing Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic Fibers, but you weren't susposed to remove Stront!

I've invested Billions in Stront to build these probes and have tons of probes on the market that I paid over 80k to build which now can be build for 20k. I don't mind you taking away the Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic fibers because I can use those for other things, but what the heck am I going to do with billions of isk worth of now useless Stront! I won't even be able to sell the stront for what I paid for it. Now that the probes don't take stront, the stront prices are going to crash. Either way I'm going to loose billions on this goof up.

Please put stront back in as a building material for the new probes.

Patch Notes:
"Tech2 components required for the production of the new scanner probes (Sift, Comb, Pursuit, Quest) have been removed. Mineral requirements have also been reduced and balanced accordingly."

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AArrrgh! Tell me this is an unintentional error - although I've not spent as much on Stront as some people obviously have, I have however spent quite a portion of my own meagre wealth over the last week or so buying over 5000 units of the stuff. Since when is Stront classed as a Tech II component?

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Originally by: Devie Viviem

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The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again?

been getting this for the past hour or so on both clients...any ideas?

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Originally by: DethApostle

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Edited by: DethApostle on 30/01/2007 13:40:45
I'm still getting random crash to desktops after installing the new patch. :(
1st time (about 20 minutes ago)was in the middle of a mission.
2nd time (just now) was dropping out of warp near a station.

The rest of the patch seems cool though, but this is just darn annoying!
(I have already deleted the Machonet folder too btw)

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Omber Zombie

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IG Browser bookmarks have been deleted, and you can't remake them (click add and nothing happens)

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Adding a bookmark throws an exception. This is being looked into.

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Originally by: Da Z

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Was trash it always above make active on the ships interface ?

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Originally by: oil

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Edited by: oil on 30/01/2007 13:51:08
changing buyorders the change pricewindow just freezes up sometimes. only way to get rid of the window is relogging. happened 4 times in a row now. i waited 15 minutes each time.

1 order change goes without trouble, the next is freaked and needs a relog.

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Originally by: Devie Viviem

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The patch was downloaded but it failed verification indicating that the file is corrupt. Would you like to download the file again?

been getting this for the past hour or so on both clients...any ideas?

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Originally by: TargovkaEscrow

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Angel 8/8 has been changed ... 15 Frigates that can scramble/stasis your ship is normal thing and it is not enough to report about this thing in patch notes? I am curious how many players have lost their ships during 1 hour after patch deployment...

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Originally by: The Antitrust

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Been involved in a little empire war battle, the wartargets are set as neutral but they show up as wartargets in the overview, removing the neutrals from the overview removes the wartargets too, show wartargets option is checked in the settings. Is this intended? :P

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Originally by: TargovkaEscrow

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Angel 8/8 has been changed ... 15 Frigates that can scramble/stasis your ship is normal thing and it is not enough to report about this thing in patch notes? I am curious how many players have lost their ships during 1 hour after patch deployment...

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Originally by: Grez

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Unfortunatly my upload is borked for some reason (I can't upload faster than 20kb/s). But it will be up on my site within 30 minutes, so keep checking.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.

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Originally by: Meyesta

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Office unrented during the DT or before no idea when haven't been on for 24 hours. No mail was recieved. Not so bad, just get the office back and get items out of impound.

However, then went to deliever on Blueprints that were in research at a POS in the system. The BPO's should have been returned to the hanger. The delievery log says they were returned to the POS labs. Checked both POS labs neither show up they arn't in the corp hangers in the station where they should have actually been returned and they arn't in the corp delieveries. Check the corp interface and the items just are no were to be found.

Any ideas. The thing I'm most worried about is all the other BPO's that are still in research or manufacture that were meant to goto the corp hanger.

Any idea's where they may be

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Originally by: LiLi Marr

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re-sent again zipped

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Originally by: Denebola Rises

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I have put in on my site.

http://felt-1.demon.nl/rises/patch/eveclient/evepatch28296-29239.exe

gl.

p.s. I'll remove the link in a few hours, so if you get a 404 error, it has been removed.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Meyesta

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Office unrented during the DT or before no idea when haven't been on for 24 hours. No mail was recieved. Not so bad, just get the office back and get items out of impound.

However, then went to deliever on Blueprints that were in research at a POS in the system. The BPO's should have been returned to the hanger. The delievery log says they were returned to the POS labs. Checked both POS labs neither show up they arn't in the corp hangers in the station where they should have actually been returned and they arn't in the corp delieveries. Check the corp interface and the items just are no were to be found.

Any ideas. The thing I'm most worried about is all the other BPO's that are still in research or manufacture that were meant to goto the corp hanger.

Any idea's where they may be

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Please file a petition about the lost BPO's no idea why this owuld have happened though,

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Originally by: MAAN

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Originally by: Grez

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Unfortunatly my upload is borked for some reason (I can't upload faster than 20kb/s). But it will be up on my site within 30 minutes, so keep checking.

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And your website is where ? or do announce it here ?

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Originally by: Biltic Creen

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"German localization is being temporarily disabled, except for the tutorials and introduction movie. German localization will be restored when the translations have been improved."

Thank you !

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Originally by: Zing Shih

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Originally by: Biltic Creen

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"German localization is being temporarily disabled, except for the tutorials and introduction movie. German localization will be restored when the translations have been improved."

Thank you !

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Why?
Bad translations are better than no translations, especially for those players which signed in because the german translations were added.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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I'd just like to post and inform you that it is highly recommended to only download patches from the official website.

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Originally by: wystler

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Please DO NOT post link to third party downloads of the EVE patch. We respect that your intentions are good, however many accounts have been compromised previously by using altered downloads and we wish to minimise the exposure to such risk as much as we can, thank you. -wystler

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Originally by: Pfrundpaechter

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just a question about the new bill of materials on Exploration Probes:

for example the sift probes have different amounts of each required minerals. that's quite okay, i.e. comparing Radar vs. Ladar.
Radar Sift takes a bit more Isogen to build than a Ladar, but also a bit less Mexallon.
but compare a Gravimetric vs. a Magnetometric:
the Gravimetric Sift Probe needs more Tritanium, Pyerite and Mex than the Magnetometric one, Iso&Mega&Nocx amounts are the same.

shouldn't all the sift probes be *about* equal in bulding requirements, thus their price?

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Originally by: andromeky

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small update- i managed to log into my account on my husbands computer but still no luck on mine. i can login with his account but mine just will not work. will be interesting to see what the issue is in the end.

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Originally by: Krell Vashari

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More of an annoyance than a bug, and obviously to do with the new overview NPC setting options; every time I do a mission where there is an NPC that drops mission specific loot, it doesn't appear on the overview. I have to find it by panning the camera, right clicking, and add it to overview. Normal NPCs show up fine, just the most improtant ones don't.

Very irritating!

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Originally by: Roue

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why? all 4 missile types EM, Thermal, kinetic and explosive do same damage, have same properties but cost a decent variation.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: andromeky

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small update- i managed to log into my account on my husbands computer but still no luck on mine. i can login with his account but mine just will not work. will be interesting to see what the issue is in the end.

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Could you try installing a fresh new client into a new folder then try that and see if it works. If it does i can only assume there is soemthign wrong with the install you have on the machine just now.

We're still looking into the issue that's been picked up in the log file though.

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Originally by: Baleorg

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Edited by: Baleorg on 30/01/2007 12:59:42
interesting thing that alone 33mb of the patch is sound.. what did you change ?

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Originally by: Patch Notes

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New Player Experience
The character creation information text is now spoken.

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The undock point of the 'Gallente 1' Station Type 'Gallente 1' has been moved to reduce collisions with the station.

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Originally by: Mongo Smith

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IGB Bookmarks have been deleted and unable to add any new ones - Machonet has been deleted.

Is there anyway to get my bookmarks back?

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Originally by: Jiekon

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If the conqureable station version was not fixed, please file a bug report and i`ll stab someone in teh face later about it :)

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Originally by: system error

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EXCEPTION #6 logged at 30/01/2007 17:01:42 Unhandled exception in TaskletExt
Caught at:
//lib/bluepy.py(39) in __call__
Thrown at:
//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__
//ui/control/entries.py(138) in _onclick
//ui/control/virtualscroll.py(430) in selectnode
//ui/control/virtualscroll.py(434) in reportselectionchange
//ui/inflight/scanner.py(384) in onprobeselectionchange
Exception:
AttributeError: sr

Arguments:
self : <BlueWrapper: triui.UIContainer>
Locals:
args : ([<'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>],)
selected : [<'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>]
lastGroupCount : None
results : {'type': None, 'results': [], 'probes': <util.IndexRowset instance at 0x0B3B54B8>}
probe : Row(probeID: 2100273766,typeID: 26909,pos: [-3618190833459.2905, -506431600997.88464, -1613450432876.3145],scanRange: 1.49448272829e+014,expiry: 1.2814650675e+017)
selection : <'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>
entries : 1
probes : <util.IndexRowset instance at 0x0B3B54B8>
probeID : 2100273766
areas : [(2100273766, 'hint', [-3618190833459.2905, -506431600997.88464, -1613450432876.3145], 149448272829300.0, None)]
Thread Locals:
eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, clientID:0, mutating:0, locationid:30003336, corprole:0x200E0005F9E200L, userid:107164, languageID:EN, regionid:10000041, constellationid:20000486, role:0x3, charid:151467419, allianceid:897877797, corpid:152976323, shipid:214962206, solarsystemid:30003336, solarsystemid2:30003336, address:82.153.140.128:15317, userType:1, hqID:60011566, rolesAtAll:0x20020000000200L, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x408000L, rolesAtOther:0xC0005F9E000L, genderID:True, bloodlineID:3, raceID:2)>

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EXCEPTION #5 logged at 30/01/2007 17:01:39 Unhandled exception in TaskletExt
Caught at:
//lib/bluepy.py(39) in __call__
Thrown at:
//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__
//ui/control/entries.py(138) in _onclick
//ui/control/virtualscroll.py(430) in selectnode
//ui/control/virtualscroll.py(434) in reportselectionchange
//ui/inflight/scanner.py(384) in onprobeselectionchange
Exception:
AttributeError: sr

Arguments:
self : <BlueWrapper: triui.UIContainer>
Locals:
args : ([<'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>],)
selected : [<'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>]
lastGroupCount : None
results : {'type': None, 'results': [], 'probes': <util.IndexRowset instance at 0x0B5C2278>}
probe : Row(probeID: 2100273766,typeID: 26909,pos: [-3618190833459.2905, -506431600997.88464, -1613450432876.3145],scanRange: 1.49448272829e+014,expiry: 1.2814650675e+017)
selection : <'Anonymous KeyVal' instance at 0xB5C2C68>
entries : 1
probes : <util.IndexRowset instance at 0x0B5C2278>
probeID : 2100273766
areas : [(2100273766, 'hint', [-3618190833459.2905, -506431600997.88464, -1613450432876.3145], 149448272829300.0, None)]
Thread Locals:
eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, clientID:0, mutating:0, locationid:30003336, corprole:0x200E0005F9E200L, userid:107164, languageID:EN, regionid:10000041, constellationid:20000486, role:0x3, charid:151467419, allianceid:897877797, corpid:152976323, shipid:214962206, solarsystemid:30003336, solarsystemid2:30003336, address:82.153.140.128:15317, userType:1, hqID:60011566, rolesAtAll:0x20020000000200L, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x408000L, rolesAtOther:0xC0005F9E000L, genderID:True, bloodlineID:3, raceID:2)>

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1. The old machonet cache did not expire after patching the client. This has resulted in a number of errors.


2. Changing colums in the overview settings can cause the client to crash to desktop.


3. In-Game Browser bookmarks cannot be created.

Originally by: VeNT

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ok, probes etc working now but getting loads of errors.

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Originally by: KEYSTYLES

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After downloading patch i am no longer able to connect to eve server. When i load the program it sais the server status is unknown.

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Originally by: VeniVici

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I was checking the new Jita->Motsu pathing and noticed that despite you making a Komo gate in Muvolailen, the in-space right click menu doesn't list Komo and still lists Isenairos startgate with no Warp-to option. Just thought you should know so you can fix the fix.

Reproduce:
Go to Muvolailen
Set Destination->Komo
Right click in space
Notice that next jump is Komo (and AP will take you there), but Komo isn't listed in the menu, only Isenairos.

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Originally by: NightF0x

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Started the update and it keeps crashing to desktop while downloading. I have tried several times and it just keeps increasing the download total...now it's at like 129mb. It will download for about 5-10% then crash. It will usually resume where it left off but the last time when it finally completed i couldn't get the autopatcher to actually patch. I'm downloading a new client and will try it again.

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons

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Originally by: Jiekon

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pick the server from the drop down list again
try to conncect even if it says unknown
if it doesn't work it's likely a network issue between you and the server.

What country are you located in and what is your ISP?

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Originally by: Kylania

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Originally by: Mongo Smith

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IGB Bookmarks have been deleted and unable to add any new ones - Machonet has been deleted.

Is there anyway to get my bookmarks back?

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Check for the file EVE\cache\Browser\bookmarks.txt

If it's still there, your bookmarks are safe. Save that. If the file is missing, they are probably lost for good.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: VeniVici

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I was checking the new Jita->Motsu pathing and noticed that despite you making a Komo gate in Muvolailen, the in-space right click menu doesn't list Komo and still lists Isenairos startgate with no Warp-to option. Just thought you should know so you can fix the fix.

Reproduce:
Go to Muvolailen
Set Destination->Komo
Right click in space
Notice that next jump is Komo (and AP will take you there), but Komo isn't listed in the menu, only Isenairos.

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Did you delete the Machonet folder?

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs?


I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?

technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Snowballs were only as big as your head. these took 2 years to melt.



Ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head. Thus takes a LOT longer to melt.

They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.

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Originally by: wystler

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Please DO NOT post link to third party downloads of the EVE patch. We respect that your intentions are good, however many accounts have been compromised previously by using altered downloads and we wish to minimise the exposure to such risk as much as we can, thank you. -wystler

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Originally by: Grez

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There's no archive of patches (if people went on holiday for 3-4 months, they may not want to download the entire client all over again). There's no mirrors (people need alternates to download - they don't need to be in different countries, just on another server so that they have more options to choose from).

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Originally by: Simon Jax

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Originally by: Grez

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There's no archive of patches (if people went on holiday for 3-4 months, they may not want to download the entire client all over again). There's no mirrors (people need alternates to download - they don't need to be in different countries, just on another server so that they have more options to choose from).

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Not going to comment on the rest, but if you go to the EVE Patches page to the left you can download a patch based on your current version. In other words, an incremental patch from the last time you played (pre-holiday) up to the current version.

At least, thats how I remember it working when I went on a five month 'holiday' and came back. I just put in my client version and got linked to a handy download.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Glaive

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Originally by: Beldaws

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Ok, we have a MAJOR problem!

The patch has removed Stront from the building requirements for the new scanner probes. Stront isn't a Tech2 component. I understand removing Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic Fibers, but you weren't susposed to remove Stront!

I've invested Billions in Stront to build these probes and have tons of probes on the market that I paid over 80k to build which now can be build for 20k. I don't mind you taking away the Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic fibers because I can use those for other things, but what the heck am I going to do with billions of isk worth of now useless Stront! I won't even be able to sell the stront for what I paid for it. Now that the probes don't take stront, the stront prices are going to crash. Either way I'm going to loose billions on this goof up.

Please put stront back in as a building material for the new probes.

Patch Notes:
"Tech2 components required for the production of the new scanner probes (Sift, Comb, Pursuit, Quest) have been removed. Mineral requirements have also been reduced and balanced accordingly."

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AArrrgh! Tell me this is an unintentional error - although I've not spent as much on Stront as some people obviously have, I have however spent quite a portion of my own meagre wealth over the last week or so buying over 5000 units of the stuff. Since when is Stront classed as a Tech II component?

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No, this is intentional. All t2 materials and ice products were removed from Exploration Probes.

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Originally by: Beldaws

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No way! This is clearly a bug. If you look at the other probes sold by the NPCs they have had the T2 components removed from their build requirements but they still require Stront.

This bug needs to be fixed ASAP!

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Originally by: Delphi Denon

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Ok so I just tried to run the eve client, this is before patching, my computer seemed to go into a graphics loop, it was blacking out fully, then changing the resolution, then just showing the banner from msn live messenger and some smilies from the forum. I can send the CCP Blue Framework logs from the "Please tell Microsoft about this problem" if that is any use to you guys?

szAppName : ExeFile.exe szAppVer : 1.10.1520.0 szModName : hungapp
szModVer : 0.0.0.0 offset : 00000000

/Delphi

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Originally by: Profhet

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs?


I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?

technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Snowballs were only as big as your head. these took 2 years to melt.



Ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head. Thus takes a LOT longer to melt.

They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.

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so do we get some ISK back? kind of ****es me off, I had these, bought a bunch, did not use them in any evil way, moved them around a couple times in fact.

Noobs get a free 800,000 of sp that I had to wait for, cost me probably a month of time, where is my little bonus for having been a loyal customer?

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Originally by: Barnhouse

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Originally by: Profhet

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs blah, blah, blah...

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Hear, hear! I had 500 left after my Christmas eve festivities, blah, blah, blah...

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Come on! If your only issue is with the removal of "snowballs," please whine about it in another forum.

Originally by: Jiekon

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Snowballs were only as big as your head...ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head

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Now, that was funny!

Jiekon FTW!!

Originally by: Agem Arees

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Edited by: Agem Arees on 30/01/2007 20:07:09
1) It seems thas some mission NPC were moved to "Mission Generic" group, which is not appearing in overview by default. It is possible to add these ships manually by right-clicking and selecting "Add Mission Generic ... to Overview", but I couldn't do it through overview settings - I simply couldn't find the checkbuttons for this group. Maybe this would be resolved if the cache was cleared, I skipped that part for now.

2) Unless salvaging mercenaries was meant to be painful by design :), you should remove the 160m3 empty cargo space requirement for salvaging battleships. This is caused by probability of getting metal scraps as a result, as far as I can guess.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs?


I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?

technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Snowballs were only as big as your head. these took 2 years to melt.

Ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head. Thus takes a LOT longer to melt.

They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.

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Originally by: Zulupark

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Edited by: Zulupark on 30/01/2007 20:15:15

Originally by: Agem Arees

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Edited by: Agem Arees on 30/01/2007 20:07:09
1) It seems thas some mission NPC were moved to "Mission Generic" group, which is not appearing in overview by default. It is possible to add these ships manually by right-clicking and selecting "Add Mission Generic ... to Overview", but I couldn't do it through overview settings - I simply couldn't find the checkbuttons for this group. Maybe this would be resolved if the cache was cleared, I skipped that part for now.

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Could you list an example of what NPC's these are please?

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Beldaws

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No way! This is clearly a bug. If you look at the other probes sold by the NPCs they have had the T2 components removed from their build requirements but they still require Stront.

This bug needs to be fixed ASAP!

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this is not a bug, it is by design.

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Originally by: VeniVici

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Originally by: Zulupark

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Edited by: Zulupark on 30/01/2007 20:15:15

Originally by: Agem Arees

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Edited by: Agem Arees on 30/01/2007 20:07:09
1) It seems thas some mission NPC were moved to "Mission Generic" group, which is not appearing in overview by default. It is possible to add these ships manually by right-clicking and selecting "Add Mission Generic ... to Overview", but I couldn't do it through overview settings - I simply couldn't find the checkbuttons for this group. Maybe this would be resolved if the cache was cleared, I skipped that part for now.

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Could you list an example of what NPC's these are please?

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Angel Webifiers - Mission Generic Frigate

Also, was the change in salvage volume supposed to help salvagers or traders? B/c now I'm getting drops of metal scraps from Angels where before I was not...resulting in harder to manage volumes of salvage. Traders though get to make more profit even though they don't have to spend 1.5 hours salvaging larger missions while the salvagers just have to deal w/ the same headaches. Just looking for clarification on the target demographic for this change is all. I'll make do either way.

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Originally by: RobW1

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Why were the tutorials amended so that they "spoke" the tutorial?

33 Mb worth of USELESS download !

With all the bugs in this game that are CRYING out to be fixed, and something as worthless as this is added.... it's shameful.

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Originally by: Hockston Axe

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Edited by: Hockston Axe on 30/01/2007 21:55:41

Originally by: VeniVici

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Originally by: Zulupark

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Edited by: Zulupark on 30/01/2007 20:15:15

Originally by: Agem Arees

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Edited by: Agem Arees on 30/01/2007 20:07:09
1) It seems thas some mission NPC were moved to "Mission Generic" group, which is not appearing in overview by default. It is possible to add these ships manually by right-clicking and selecting "Add Mission Generic ... to Overview", but I couldn't do it through overview settings - I simply couldn't find the checkbuttons for this group. Maybe this would be resolved if the cache was cleared, I skipped that part for now.

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Could you list an example of what NPC's these are please?

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Angel Webifiers - Mission Generic Frigate

Also, was the change in salvage volume supposed to help salvagers or traders? B/c now I'm getting drops of metal scraps from Angels where before I was not...resulting in harder to manage volumes of salvage. Traders though get to make more profit even though they don't have to spend 1.5 hours salvaging larger missions while the salvagers just have to deal w/ the same headaches. Just looking for clarification on the target demographic for this change is all. I'll make do either way.

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Mercs
Rogue Agent

anything now named Generic mission npc. And they drop metal scraps I've never ever gotten a metal scrap from a mission before.

why would angel webifiers be changed? they were fine before as angel small wrecks.

metal scraps= bad bad bad bad

edit: I cleared the machonet folder after installing the patch before playing and there simply isn't an overview checkbox for the new mission generic group.

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: RobW1

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Why were the tutorials amended so that they "spoke" the tutorial?

33 Mb worth of USELESS download !

With all the bugs in this game that are CRYING out to be fixed, and something as worthless as this is added.... it's shameful.

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Yeah, cause the guys n girls who work on the new player experience know how to fix bugs. It's 2 seperate departments.

Did you miss the fixes that went into this patch?

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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It's showing ok for me in Rens, looking up tritanium

Got any info on what items have no history? or what region?

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Originally by: Caius LiviusCerso

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please fix the idiotic zoom reset issue upon jumping to new system.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Hockston Axe

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Edited by: Hockston Axe on 30/01/2007 21:55:41

Originally by: VeniVici

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Originally by: Zulupark

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Edited by: Zulupark on 30/01/2007 20:15:15

Originally by: Agem Arees

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Edited by: Agem Arees on 30/01/2007 20:07:09
1) It seems thas some mission NPC were moved to "Mission Generic" group, which is not appearing in overview by default. It is possible to add these ships manually by right-clicking and selecting "Add Mission Generic ... to Overview", but I couldn't do it through overview settings - I simply couldn't find the checkbuttons for this group. Maybe this would be resolved if the cache was cleared, I skipped that part for now.

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Could you list an example of what NPC's these are please?

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Angel Webifiers - Mission Generic Frigate

Also, was the change in salvage volume supposed to help salvagers or traders? B/c now I'm getting drops of metal scraps from Angels where before I was not...resulting in harder to manage volumes of salvage. Traders though get to make more profit even though they don't have to spend 1.5 hours salvaging larger missions while the salvagers just have to deal w/ the same headaches. Just looking for clarification on the target demographic for this change is all. I'll make do either way.

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Mercs
Rogue Agent

anything now named Generic mission npc. And they drop metal scraps I've never ever gotten a metal scrap from a mission before.

why would angel webifiers be changed? they were fine before as angel small wrecks.

metal scraps= bad bad bad bad

edit: I cleared the machonet folder after installing the patch before playing and there simply isn't an overview checkbox for the new mission generic group.

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They should show up under NPC > Mission NPC please uncheck it and check it again and see if that works.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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It's showing ok for me in Rens, looking up tritanium

Got any info on what items have no history? or what region?

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Originally by: Jiekon

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please bug report that :)

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Edited by: ToxicFire on 30/01/2007 23:20:33
Edited by: ToxicFire on 30/01/2007 23:19:10

Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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It's showing ok for me in Rens, looking up tritanium

Got any info on what items have no history? or what region?

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Heres a couple of screenies I'll nip to another region to check in a min the stuff on the graph seems to be ok though.

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Originally by: Brute Helmet

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Quote:

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It is no longer possible to steal from a Starbase using a Carrier / Mothership / Titan

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Ok...great. Is it possible for us to know exactly how that worked ? Same corp only or could the carrier be from another corp or alliance ? Did it apply to ships in the POS bubble or in Ship maintenance arrays ?

A clarification would be nice since we have had ships go missing from our POSes a few times...

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Originally by: Rangkai

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Strontium being being lumped in with "tech 2 items" in the probes.. sorta sucks.. However, for those of you asking for refunds on what you spent. I found a way to get a refund without whining to ccp.

Put it on the market.

Overall, I am happy about it because now I can build and use probes cheaply and not get upset when I spend 10 mil on probes only to find a mission that has virtually no rewards.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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this is not a bug, it is by design.

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Originally by: AstralDeva

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Any ideas why my total skill points seems to have gotten stuck? I have a skill running since yesterday, and also use EVEMon. Both the game and EVEMon report same time to completion of skill, but game character sheet says im 100.000 SP less than EVEMon.

I checked the character sheet every hour or so but total skill points still seem to be stuck.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Sonos SAGD

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why did you remove snowballs?


I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?

technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?

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Snowballs were only as big as your head. these took 2 years to melt.

Ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head. Thus takes a LOT longer to melt.

They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.

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Originally by: Nero Winger

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you made it a horrible pain to fly a complex. thank you for that.
im now sitting since 4 hours in a plex that i usually run in half an hour. because of the key holders do not respawn at all.
believe me i have better things to do than watching 4 hours the screen and waiting for a game that sould bring me some "fun".
this is no "fun".
i suggest you to rethink the concept of your products comparative advantage.
"pay for boredome" is not really a magnificient slogan tbh.

sincerly

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Da Z

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Was trash it always above make active on the ships interface ?

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yes

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Originally by: Beldaws

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Ok, I just searched the Item Database and the only thing that you build with Stront are the @$%!@&* probes that are sold by npcs!

So CCP what do I do with the 500,000 units of stront that I have sitting in my hanger????????

Stront is already down to 3500 per unit and is still dropping like a rock.

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Originally by: Alain DeMorgan

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POS low-fuel notification evemails appear to be sent only to those who have been explicitly granted the "config starbase equipment" role.

If you have that role only because you have a title that grants it, or because you are a director, then you do not get the notification. That also means that directors can't ever receive notification, because you can't individually grant roles to them.

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Is there anything other than ISK you might be interested in?

Originally by: Helmut 314

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Originally by: Alain DeMorgan

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POS low-fuel notification evemails appear to be sent only to those who have been explicitly granted the "config starbase equipment" role.

If you have that role only because you have a title that grants it, or because you are a director, then you do not get the notification. That also means that directors can't ever receive notification, because you can't individually grant roles to them.

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This needs to be fixed NOW and not in three months time or whatever!

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Helmut 314

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Originally by: Alain DeMorgan

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POS low-fuel notification evemails appear to be sent only to those who have been explicitly granted the "config starbase equipment" role.

If you have that role only because you have a title that grants it, or because you are a director, then you do not get the notification. That also means that directors can't ever receive notification, because you can't individually grant roles to them.

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This needs to be fixed NOW and not in three months time or whatever!

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File a bug report about ANY bugs you find and they will be passed onto the relevant people. This will ensure that they are fixed as soon as possible.

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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds

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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 31/01/2007 09:36:00

Originally by: ToxicFire

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Price History "TABLES" on the market are now empty not showing any data

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This issue occurs if you resize the date column and prevent the full date from displaying.

It causes all other data to stop displaying until the date column is widened again, allowing the full date to be seen.

Then the rest of the data reappears.


This bug also affects the other columns. Hiding any of the text, by resizing a column, causes data in subsequent columns to stop displaying.

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Originally by: Jiekon

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Originally by: Glaive

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Originally by: Beldaws

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Ok, we have a MAJOR problem!

The patch has removed Stront from the building requirements for the new scanner probes. Stront isn't a Tech2 component. I understand removing Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic Fibers, but you weren't susposed to remove Stront!

I've invested Billions in Stront to build these probes and have tons of probes on the market that I paid over 80k to build which now can be build for 20k. I don't mind you taking away the Nanotransistors and Hypersynaptic fibers because I can use those for other things, but what the heck am I going to do with billions of isk worth of now useless Stront! I won't even be able to sell the stront for what I paid for it. Now that the probes don't take stront, the stront prices are going to crash. Either way I'm going to loose billions on this goof up.

Please put stront back in as a building material for the new probes.

Patch Notes:
"Tech2 components required for the production of the new scanner probes (Sift, Comb, Pursuit, Quest) have been removed. Mineral requirements have also been reduced and balanced accordingly."

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AArrrgh! Tell me this is an unintentional error - although I've not spent as much on Stront as some people obviously have, I have however spent quite a portion of my own meagre wealth over the last week or so buying over 5000 units of the stuff. Since when is Stront classed as a Tech II component?

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No, this is intentional. All t2 materials and ice products were removed from Exploration Probes.

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Originally by: ToxicFire

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Sorry all but quit whining about the stront on probes issue. If ccp had announced it there'd have been mass whining from all the probe producers as well as jacking about with the stront prices before it hit. Also we all know that ccp has said things aboout alterations to costs and build reqs of certain items before and then failed to go through with it leading to alot more whining... tractor beam bpo's anyone I still got 50 of them. Its not gonna be a total loss you might have to sell off your current stock of probes at a small loss just to get the stock out and reclaim what you can to start building more and recoup the costs in your profit else where.... frankly your own fault for specialising in one product diversification is security in the trading world... egg's in one basket and that crap.

Always assume that the next day things could totally change, a good forecoming possible example of this is whats going to happen when/if they decide to make all asteroid belts exploration only content. Prices are going to be far more volatile from day to day simply because theres not a garunteed supply or someone might hit the motherload of a particular ore that makes prices drop through the floor.

Infact I think I quite look forward to mineral scarceities where big alliances reel in their ambitions and cautiously avoid war for fear of not having enough minerals to support losses.

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Originally by: Splagada

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SEED ME DADDY

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Originally by: ZimoH

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What about vista premium.
My system doenst work anymore with this patch an especially EvE with the message its not your protocol :S
Request some update pls ?

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Originally by: Phoenix Lonestar

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Don't know if anyone else has experienced this... but since the patches, when I initially log on, it takes at least 4-5 times longer to get to the character selection screen. It just sits on acquiring bulk data for an extended period of time. *shrug*

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Originally by: Sable Schroedinger

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so the price of data cores will come down.

A self fixing problem!!!

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Originally by: Empero

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Originally by: Nero Winger

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you made it a horrible pain to fly a complex. thank you for that.
im now sitting since 4 hours in a plex that i usually run in half an hour. because of the key holders do not respawn at all.
believe me i have better things to do than watching 4 hours the screen and waiting for a game that sould bring me some "fun".
this is no "fun".
i suggest you to rethink the concept of your products comparative advantage.
"pay for boredome" is not really a magnificient slogan tbh.

sincerly

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Confirmed, i have the same problem :-/

Keyholder/Overseer respawn time (6/10 in my case) is broken.
Friend of mine was waiting more than 6 hours today and the last stage still didnt respawned...

sidenote: Loot table's seems to be nerfed since first kali patch

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