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Jiekon	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:26:00 - [1] Hey folks. If you'r client is crashing due to DEP thingys, edit your cache/prefs.ini file add this : voiceenabled=0 beneath the "username" entry log into SISI : it should now work \o/ yay edit: Changed NOT to NOW lol what a nub ________________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA Known Issues Page The LogServer Easy Steps To Bug Reporting

Hellspawn01 Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:34:00 - [2] I thought we should not modify the client files? Ship lovers click here

Jiekon	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Hellspawn01 I thought we should not modify the client files? Well fine, if you don't want to make Vista work with a Vivox enabled server (SISI) don't do it. But i am posting to let you know that if you do this, it will work. thus, it is an official "OK-able" action. ________________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA Known Issues Page The LogServer Easy Steps To Bug Reporting

D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:44:00 - [4] you guys ever going to make vivox work in win2k? cant say i would use it tbh , but would like to know win2k isnt suddenly going to be dropped because of vivox. ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.

Jiekon	Posted - 2007.02.02 16:50:00 - [5] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui you guys ever going to make vivox work in win2k? cant say i would use it tbh , but would like to know win2k isnt suddenly going to be dropped because of vivox. I honestly have no idea, but you should be able to use the small hack above to make EvE work where it fails to work because of vivox. ________________________________ ~Jiekon ~CCP QA Known Issues Page The LogServer Easy Steps To Bug Reporting

Vicarrah Minmatar Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:00:00 - [6] Are you trying to tell me it doesn't work in Win2K? meh, if that's the case, then I won't be using it, which is a shame. Vicarrah Tahiri Warrior
Elissen Amarr Feral Tendency	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:01:00 - [7] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui you guys ever going to make vivox work in win2k? cant say i would use it tbh , but would like to know win2k isnt suddenly going to be dropped because of vivox. Windows 2000 is now in "extended support" and not in "mainstream". Common support for Windows 2000 ended at 30th June, 2005. Also see Microsoft Lifecycle pages and Windows 2000 Professional page. Supporting older operating systems has a lot of problems. Quite often I want to use an API that simply is not available under systems like Windows 2000. Or that you need to distribute extra DLL's. The more you want to use newer technologies the more problems you get with older operating systems. Altough Windows 2000 has it charme, personally I would suggest an upgrade to XP or Vista. ---- ICSC Jumpplanner tool - Routeplanner for all jumpcapable ships!
Wizzkidy	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:12:00 - [8] I would join but the test patch is downloading at 0.1kb/sec
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.02 17:50:00 - [9] Originally by: Elissen Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui you guys ever going to make vivox work in win2k? cant say i would use it tbh , but would like to know win2k isnt suddenly going to be dropped because of vivox. Windows 2000 is now in "extended support" and not in "mainstream". Common support for Windows 2000 ended at 30th June, 2005. Also see Microsoft Lifecycle pages and Windows 2000 Professional page. Supporting older operating systems has a lot of problems. Quite often I want to use an API that simply is not available under systems like Windows 2000. Or that you need to distribute extra DLL's. The more you want to use newer technologies the more problems you get with older operating systems. Altough Windows 2000 has it charme, personally I would suggest an upgrade to XP or Vista. yes i know that but eve is still meant to support win2k acording to there faq. i was just asking a question and i got the answer i expected and i know ms droped win2k support along time ago. i'll upgrade to vista when ati release a dx10 card and dx10 games start coming out, until then its just not worth it for me. aslong as a work around for win2k & vivox continues to exist i will be happy, if they choose to just break win2k all together ill simply cancel my subscription and return again when i eventually go dx10 and vista ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Chruker	Posted - 2007.02.02 18:46:00 - [10] Just wanted to confirm that the problem I had with DEP + Vivox on Windows XP, can be bypassed by adding the voiceenabled=0 line. ----- CCP: Please make ship loot to drop in a can next to the wrecks.
Fapos	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:21:00 - [11] Thanks for this Jiekon, this also stops the CTD on entering station caused by VxPortManager.dll
Muthsera S.A.S	Posted - 2007.02.02 20:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Jiekon Originally by: Hellspawn01 I thought we should not modify the client files? Well fine, if you don't want to make Vista work with a Vivox enabled server (SISI) don't do it. But i am posting to let you know that if you do this, it will work. thus, it is an official "OK-able" action. I hope you take the same kind of approach to other client "edits" to. Nothing quite like having your memberbase sort out the features themselves. Rabble
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.02 21:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Hellspawn01 I thought we should not modify the client files? Its perfectly fine to edit bits of the prefs.ini file, hell there's even a whole sticky on the subject in the Technology forum. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Fredou Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2007.02.02 22:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Fredou on 02/02/2007 22:34:32 what about that exploit? Originally by: small copy/paste from the second link I have verified that I can create a sound file that can wake Vista speech recognition, open Windows Explorer, delete the documents folder, and then empty the trash.
NAFnist Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.03 00:13:00 - [15] pwn THANKS vista is the future, good seeing such fast wark and fixes like this is great untill properly done. - Regards NAFnist
Arnold Duncan	Posted - 2007.02.03 00:15:00 - [16] Yay! \o/ Have been waiting for over a month to get this thing sorted out. Didn't even thought you would have it sorted out for a while. And i wish to confirm that now sisi is running properly under vista. Many thanks jiekon!!!
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.02.03 02:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Fredou Edited by: Fredou on 02/02/2007 22:34:32 what about that exploit? Originally by: small copy/paste from the second link I have verified that I can create a sound file that can wake Vista speech recognition, open Windows Explorer, delete the documents folder, and then empty the trash. Considering the workaround posted here turns off speech I doubt the above will be a problem. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Bohoba Caldari Dragons United Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.03 07:51:00 - [18] Well I run Win XP Pro the voice on the test sever the second I log onto it the sound goes all static this is all sound, ending game does not restore it I have to reboot to get the static sound to go away. still will try this tip and see if that helps Get Into the Game it makes it fun for all
RobW1 Caldari Iyen-Oursta Salvage	Posted - 2007.02.03 09:46:00 - [19] So is CCP saying that Vivox integration won't work on Vista? Or is there a fix in the works?
Lucio Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.03 11:15:00 - [20] Woot! Now we can definately ignore everyone using the Vivox system, even when they do patch it to be Vista compatable I'm keeping this one in my prefs.ini ************************************************ Wohoo! No more negative sec status. It's a shame it took me TWO YEARS of Carebearing to get rid of a lousy -1.2
Xenofur Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.03 11:35:00 - [21] it would be absolutely hilarious if they couldn't get something completely trivial as voice communication working client-side under win2k.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.02.03 17:47:00 - [22] Hope this works on XP as well since I can't use SiSi on XP because of vivox. EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Soon Tzu	Posted - 2007.02.04 15:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Jiekon Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui you guys ever going to make vivox work in win2k? cant say i would use it tbh , but would like to know win2k isnt suddenly going to be dropped because of vivox. I honestly have no idea, but you should be able to use the small hack above to make EvE work where it fails to work because of vivox. I wouldn't call it a hack...more of a ccp directed manual patch...
Dotar Sojat Reality Check	Posted - 2007.02.05 03:34:00 - [24] Do yourselves a favor and leave sound disabled and stick with TeamSpeak
Razer Morphis Minmatar	Posted - 2007.02.05 15:18:00 - [25] Edited by: Razer Morphis on 05/02/2007 15:14:13 This was very nice while it lasted, but SiSi just reverted back to 29316 and it does not work anymore. From IRC: \| SISI (online) - 2.14.29316 \| ----------------------
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.06 03:26:00 - [26] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui i'll upgrade to vista when ati release a dx10 card and dx10 games start coming out, until then its just not worth it for me. I'll "upgrade" to vista when they get off their high horse and decide to port their firewire drivers from XP so I can actually use the 500G or so of external hard drive space I already have. /me grumbles about stupid DRM idiocy and wonders if lawyers might change their minds if their legal documents refused to print because of DRM issues.
Bugszor Caldari The Redeeming Age	Posted - 2007.02.06 10:28:00 - [27] thanks allot. allot of my friends had their liveboxes crashing lmao. i directly mailed them this link and its fixed thanks allot man :) cheers ------------------------------------ Dont make me bug you... Last kill.. arash kanerium ship: typhoon ship used: thorax. tip of the day? age of players doesnt mean sh*t
RobW1 Caldari Iyen-Oursta Salvage	Posted - 2007.02.07 16:35:00 - [28] Is there a fix in the works?
Zzazzt Gallente Millennium	Posted - 2007.02.08 11:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Elissen Altough Windows 2000 has it charm It does? ____________________________________________
Rovinare	Posted - 2007.02.08 15:29:00 - [30] I am sure that they COULD make it work with Win2k... but at some point, as is happening with DX10, you have to move forward; get rid of all the old code, etc. At least with vista launching you can get XP cheaper if this is a problem for you. waves flag begin the flaming PS. Vista rocks.
Hohenheim OfLight Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.09 11:32:00 - [31] just a quick warning about vista voice, I have read on a few sites about that if you ahve voice coommands turned on, on your pc some one can shout reeboot and vista will. and i was thinking that if you have ts set to live mic and you have vista voice commands turned on then, an enemey spy could jump on your ts shout shutdown and you can wave bye bye to some of your fleet. I know most people wont turn on vistas voice commands or even have vista but as tiem goes buy it is somethign to watch out for. ---------------------------------------------- Is mining for a hel mad? or just ambishus?
Lysander Drakos	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:38:00 - [32] I cant get a MIC boost option in Vista, sux large. Thanks Jiekon for the workaround. \o/ I think I was the one who reported it.
Condolesco Caldari Brotherhood of Whiners	Posted - 2007.02.12 03:22:00 - [33] Has there been an increase in lag due to the increased Bandwidth usage by the client due to this? Or is it minimal? Haven't had a chance to make a copy of my client files yet to test it out. Also Is the DB of the testserver going to be updated anytime soon. Now to the jist of the post OMG Jiekon is a dev!!! Someone report him for giving us an unfair advantage!!!
Allen Deckard Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:43:00 - [34] have a question on the eve voice thing. yah yah wrong thread but duno where the rightone is. Hows it going to work with multiple clients? Like if I am mining away with a group while seiging a pos somewhere am I going to be able to listen/talk to both? hows that gonna work. Kentucky where the goats roam and the rednecks run free
Brolly Caldari The Department of Justice	Posted - 2007.02.16 13:59:00 - [35] Lol, I was tearing my hair out trying to get eve to work and it turns out this was the solution all along. Dev posts FTW, they know what their on about If I had ú1 for every intelligent comment posted in general discussion, I'd be hideously in debt
RobW1 Caldari Iyen-Oursta Salvage	Posted - 2007.02.17 11:27:00 - [36] Is there a proper fix in the works, other than disabling it?
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.02.26 21:01:00 - [37] Originally by: NAFnist vista is the future Vista is the past, with a sleek cover to hide how old it is. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 12:00:00 - [38] Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 28/02/2007 11:57:17 Originally by: Guillame Herschel Originally by: NAFnist vista is the future Vista is the past, with a sleek cover to hide how old it is. was xp not the future? glad i sticked with win2k pro for this long tbh , i managed to skip paying for a new "skin" havent had to miss out on any games that arent win2k pro suported either even supreme commander works on win2k and with sound and all it takes is a few correctly placed dll's ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Osiris Prime	Posted - 2007.03.01 12:45:00 - [39] This didn't work for me :(, any further advice CCP Jiekon? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=484106
Targosh Dread	Posted - 2007.03.01 17:00:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Jiekon Hey folks. If you'r client is crashing due to DEP thingys, edit your cache/prefs.ini file add this : voiceenabled=0 beneath the "username" entry log into SISI : it should now work \o/ yay edit: Changed NOT to NOW lol what a nub I am not seeing a cache folder in my Eve folder. I have never launched the game successfully so I'm assuming I don't have one yet?? What should I do?
Precentor M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.02 07:39:00 - [41] I'll post what I posted in a different thread Look in the folder C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache for your pref.ini file. That were I found mine after I reinstalled eve. You will have to turn on show hidden files and folders to see the AppData folder
getmoving	Posted - 2007.03.02 14:30:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Jiekon Hey folks. If you'r client is crashing due to DEP thingys, edit your cache/prefs.ini file add this : voiceenabled=0 beneath the "username" entry log into SISI : it should now work \o/ yay edit: Changed NOT to NOW lol what a nub hows about fixing it before you send it live server, god damn u ccp do you never learn
anthonieak Gallente SuX ltd.	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:29:00 - [43] The problem stays for windows 2000 prof users. Also if you voiceenabled=0 you can not log you second acoount in on the same pc. No corp and no alliance chat channels.An other over windows 2000 prof it wil be supported till 2023. So what is more imported voice account or loosing numerous players who play with windows 2000 prof.
Etzal	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:37:00 - [44] Eve (2 installations) has been working ok for me on Vista until today. Ok this morning, but both installations crashed this afternoon until I added the voiceenabled=0 line to the pref.ini file. wtf CCP? Its not like Vista is some bolt from the blue. You've had months of availability to it as part of Microsoft Developer program!
Marticus Hullz	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:26:00 - [45] Edited by: Marticus Hullz on 06/03/2007 21:22:58 Originally by: Etzal wtf CCP? Its not like Vista is some bolt from the blue. You've had months of availability to it as part of Microsoft Developer program! The only part of MSDN CCP uses is the chapter on "bad database management". And enabling this crap without fixing it first - crashing a brand new operating system is just ... n.a.z.i.
M3ta Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.07 03:29:00 - [46] So, when will this crap be fixed? And the "Vista is not out yet" is no longer an excuse. ------------------------------
Spaced Skunk D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.07 12:13:00 - [47] Originally by: NAFnist pwn THANKS vista is the future, good seeing such fast wark and fixes like this is great untill properly done. Vista is a step backwards tbh...until service pack 2 comes out...like months from now Vista doesnt do anything noticeable special over Windows XP, oh, apart from the fact that the security on Vista is heavily overdone.
Indius Lux	Posted - 2007.03.08 01:13:00 - [48] I don't have Vista, but there doesn't seem to be an XP voice chat thread (maybe I'm the only one with problems). But When I click Join Audio, nothing happens. If I click again, it still says Join Audio, not (as others have described) Leave Audio. I have a SoundMax audio build onto the MB of my Asus NCCH-DL. I tried both mfgr disk and current drivers. Audio works just fine in every other regard from In Game Audio to Skype. Any Ideas?
Mintaric	Posted - 2007.03.12 21:53:00 - [49] Edited by: Mintaric on 12/03/2007 23:28:52 adding that line to prefs.ini did not fix my problem. I still get a blue framework problem. Edit - I fixed it. For whatever reason it wasen't using the prefs.ini file in the CCP folder. It also saved the same file elsewhere on my system and was using it from there. So once I edited that file it worked.
Snatch MeBalls	Posted - 2007.03.17 22:45:00 - [50] How do you log onto SISI is that when you log onto ur user name into eve? or where do you do that?
Foshizzle Mynizzle	Posted - 2007.03.18 06:53:00 - [51] I am getting this CCP Blue Frame work has stoipped working and then that dep thing comes up. i have gone through the settings and selected eve to be exzempt but its still crashing. As for the cahe file thing you said to change i dont have a cache folder for some reason i have uninstalled and reinstalled this thing 4 times and still no folder all i have are these four (bin, lib, res, script) and that file you have listed isnt in any of those. HELP hehe
Mintaric	Posted - 2007.03.18 23:34:00 - [52] Originally by: Fo**zle Mynizzle I am getting this CCP Blue Frame work has stoipped working and then that dep thing comes up. i have gone through the settings and selected eve to be exzempt but its still crashing. As for the cahe file thing you said to change i dont have a cache folder for some reason i have uninstalled and reinstalled this thing 4 times and still no folder all i have are these four (bin, lib, res, script) and that file you have listed isnt in any of those. HELP hehe You have it, it's just in a different place. I don't remember where off the top of my head but just run a search(make sure to check the box to make it search non indexed locations) and you'll find it.
PYRO 9	Posted - 2007.03.19 00:10:00 - [53] This will fix the problem! ok there are two places you have to change in pref file C:\Program Files{X86)\CCP\EVE\Cache\Folder and C:/users/yourusername/appdata/local/virtual/program files/ccp/eve find both of these files and click on pref folder, add this under the username, it should be last! voiceenabled=0 save as you exit and be sure you do it as administrator. after you have changed this in both places eve will work again! good luck! then Vista will work
Foshizzle Mynizzle	Posted - 2007.03.19 03:54:00 - [54] still cant locate those files i did advanced search and getting no matchs found i even tried breaking them up some and still nothing this is really mind boggling why these ccp files would be in another place beside where they belong in the stupid ccp folder.
Mintaric	Posted - 2007.03.19 17:17:00 - [55] make sure you check the box to "include non-indexed, hidden and system files (might be slow)". And then just select your drive where EVE is installed from the drop down. Let is search the entire drive. Not just the folders where you think the file is. And the file you want to search for is prefs. Just type that. Nothing more, nothing less.
SSgt Sniper Gallente In Excess Enterprises Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.20 16:58:00 - [56] We never got voice to work. The next day the whole alliance was back to TS, EVE voice completely forgotten. Now how do I disable the sunbeech so it stops taking the additional resources it's been gobbling up since they put it in? --------- Sparta!
SSgt Sniper Gallente In Excess Enterprises Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.20 16:58:00 - [57] We never got voice to work. The next day the whole alliance was back to TS, EVE voice completely forgotten. Now how do I disable the sunbeech so it stops taking the additional resources it's been gobbling up since they put it in? --------- Sparta!
Tharim Villains Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.20 23:08:00 - [58] Wouldn't it be a good idea with like, you know, a interface or something? We arent all computer engineers you know..
Templer Relleg x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.21 22:07:00 - [59] Originally by: Hohenheim OfLight just a quick warning about vista voice, I have read on a few sites about that if you ahve voice coommands turned on, on your pc some one can shout reeboot and vista will. and i was thinking that if you have ts set to live mic and you have vista voice commands turned on then, an enemey spy could jump on your ts shout shutdown and you can wave bye bye to some of your fleet. I know most people wont turn on vistas voice commands or even have vista but as tiem goes buy it is somethign to watch out for. This is in THEORY. Chances that it will happen, i 0%. It will take the audio to be very clear, and that you use speakers. And it wont "just" shutdown. Vivox works fine on Vista here
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 02:24:00 - [60] Just as a testing fyi (as this is stickied), EVE voice does NOT work under linux either with wine (.9.33) or with cedega (any version). The client under wine will hang when entering game from the character selection menu. Under cedega, the client DOES load successfully, but local and corporate channels are not available. The fix, as in the non 2000 (sp4) and vista is to add "voiceenabled=0" on the line following the user name. This allows the client to work normally, but without vivox. Pardon me for being a bit sarcastic, but this feels like multiple "tiers" which iirc CCP said would NEVER happen. This testing will apply to the macintel version of wine/crossover as well...at a guess. (no mac to test it with.) Ubuntu 3d-Linux Desktop+EVE
DARKVALE Caldari Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.22 19:48:00 - [61] Done everything i can did not get eve voice to work :-( i am on vista ill play a little more later might be my firewall though.
s1n1ster m1n1ster	Posted - 2007.03.23 00:40:00 - [62] Hey! Just got Eve voice up and running. I have had no problems with Windows XP and the voice quality is just as good as our high end ventrilo server! Thanks CCP for a great roll out
Aero Zolic Caldari Underground Liberation Resistance Corps	Posted - 2007.03.23 10:05:00 - [63] Originally by: s1n1ster m1n1ster Hey! Just got Eve voice up and running. I have had no problems with Windows XP and the voice quality is just as good as our high end ventrilo server! Thanks CCP for a great roll out The topic is about EVE Voice + Vista.
ricohalo	Posted - 2007.03.26 12:10:00 - [64] Jiekon, not to sound stupid what is SISI. I got the voiceenable=0 under the username, is there anything else I should do to get eve to load on vista? if anyone can help id appreciate.
Arutus Caldari Kamikaze Fleet Elite	Posted - 2007.03.27 20:43:00 - [65] SISI is the testserver ;)
wolfgarrr Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:21:00 - [66] Why did CCP decide to provide voice ? 1. There is allready a voice program everyone uses.. (Team speak) 2. Team speak does not cause lagg on the server as the CCP voice program surly does 3. Wasted development time and money reinventing the wheel to bring something to the game that was allready there. 4. Charging for a service that is technicaly free in teamspeek.. 5.. many many more reasons why eve voice should have NEVER been thought of or at the verry least be provided free/part of the monthly cost allready..
Anubis Anasazi	Posted - 2007.03.29 00:31:00 - [67] how do i take eve voice off or turn it off. i dont want it period.

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MindDragon	Posted - 2007.04.03 16:59:00 - [69] Anyone know if this is now working under Vista? Every time I try to voiceenable=1 my client just plain doesn't load. MD ------ It's a very old problem. Allow me to explain. Jita has the best commercially available computer hardware in the world and it has its own node. Consider that for a moment. (Credit: Cmdr Sy)
MindDragon	Posted - 2007.04.03 16:59:00 - [70] Anyone know if this is now working under Vista? Every time I try to voiceenable=1 my client just plain doesn't load. MD ------ It's a very old problem. Allow me to explain. Jita has the best commercially available computer hardware in the world and it has its own node. Consider that for a moment. (Credit: Cmdr Sy)
Mallikanth Minmatar	Posted - 2007.04.04 19:36:00 - [71] Originally by: MindDragon Anyone know if this is now working under Vista? Every time I try to voiceenable=1 my client just plain doesn't load. MD Just delete the line. The difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible
UGWidowmaker Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.18 10:41:00 - [72] eve voice simply dont work on my vista client, and i cant be arsed to run all sort of test to get it working.. if i am to pay for something it simply just have to work.. not like now... eve voice at it is SUCKS.
goober GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.23 21:02:00 - [73] Originally by: Dotar Sojat Do yourselves a favor and leave sound disabled and stick with TeamSpeak use Ventrilo, communications come in crystal clear on vent (unlike the rediculous garble that is teamspeak. i highly reccomend you try vent before ts. better communications = more fun for everyone :))
Sleepkevert Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.24 17:07:00 - [74] Ok, now i really have a problem. Patched this afternoon, worked fine afterward, logged out, got some food, got back. and... I can't start eve anymore DEP is shutting it down. Even after adding voiceenabled=0 to the prefs.ini in the cache folder, it still gets shut down by DEP. Help?
Hawk Firestorm	Posted - 2007.04.29 03:57:00 - [75] Question is when you guys getting round to churning out a 64Bit multithreading DX9/10 capable client for Vista? The old client model I think is a bit long in the tooth, features like multi monitor/CPU support are becomming the norm. While Vista does have some teething probs it's here and I think it should be on the drawing board.
ATOM ANT	Posted - 2007.05.01 17:08:00 - [76] I'm sure we are all doomed to upgrading to microsoft's windoz what-ever and so, I capitulate. It would be nice however, to have the option of running EvE in a linux based environment with out having to find the various tools one has to resort to in order to get EvE to work with linux. As for client editing.. Sure Why not. Or better yet.. just stick in a quick repair durning down time. :-) A.A.
Hawk Fireblade	Posted - 2007.05.11 12:10:00 - [77] Or like me just turn DEP off. :) Nice feature shame it's just such a annoying pain in the arse. lol
Felon goodnight	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:34:00 - [78] Dear CCP, Once again, it seems that several of your employees have been up to no good. We'll get into the details a little later, but the highlights are quite juicy: CCP employees abusing their roles to join player corporations and give themselves director access, RP-events being rigged and what I really thought we were over, further fraternization between your employees and members of BoB and the subsequent cover-up. These latter two events actually stem from the same source, a former ISD member. Let us begin with CCP Sharkbait joining the corporation "DarkStar 1" and giving himself director access. This was not preceded by a customer service request that would in any shape, way or form require a CCP employee to join the corporation. Less then one minute after joining the corporation, he added the role "Director" to himself, roughly fourteen minutes later, he leaves the corporation and surrenders the role. * http://images.goonfleet.com/images/ccp/2007.05.25.15.19.48.jpg * http://images.goonfleet.com/images/ccp/CCP%20charkbait%202.png Upon learning of this, corporate officers from DarkStar 1 immediately filed a petition in an effort to discover the reasons for this. This petition was promptly deleted and CCP Sharkbait would not respond to in-game conversations. Why would a CCP Employee ever join a corporation without being asked to do so or any prior communication indicating that this would take place? Why was the petition filed by officials from DarkStar 1 deleted with no response or reason? The second part of this sordid story is best told "as is". Below I've included the account of one Raekhan, a former member of ISD. His story is two-fold and will encompass both the rigging of RP-events, as well as the fraternization between members of BoB and CCP and its cover-up. Without further ado, here is Raehkan's Story: My apologies for the long delay. I promised myself not to get involved in what, at the time, I called "An internet nerd revenge scheme' that was this issue, I felt that bringing this stuff to light would be cheap, and silly, and completely beneath anyone who was actually able to 'move on'.... Months after, I planned to re-evaluate....that time has passed, I still have no desire to play EVE, and thus, I can tell you some things.... please PM me with an email address (any email you so choose) to attach a file or two to... Now, my story.... I am also known as Graelyn, a (once) big RP-community-guy. I was the executor of the Aegis Militia Alliance. (We kicked the Bloodraider NPC group out of the Bleak Lands Region, and recently stomped those StarFraction people.) The AM guys guys are great GREAT people, and since the below incident ocured, they have sa***uarded a very bad secret for a very long time, one that would ensure the dissolution of the RP community we tried so hard to maintain.... Mirial, once the executor of my Alliance, was banned, the center of what would be referred to as the 'Tetrimon OOC affair'. What occured was this: Several members of the alliance Aegis Militia were ISD members (completely in regulations and living that double-life as it was intended to be played, by the rules), however, Mirial, who was once an ISD member, managed to get the login/PW info to an ISD forum from a director of her corp who happened to be in ISD. (How this happened is still a mystery even to me, I am still inquiring)... Basically, Mirial was accessing an AURORA website illegally, and was banned for it (Something I cannot in any theory disagree with, NDA was broken, and similarly, I can't argue with YOUR banning from EVE, sir...try to understand....), but it was the nature of the thing that caused so much distress.... You see, ISD claims that events are not rigged, that RP groups can influence the events in the world. This is a lie, and one that, after discovering, I did not reveal, in the fears that it would demolish the already on-the-ropes RP community in EVE.
Felon goodnight	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:36:00 - [79] AM already had suspicions, as by the end of the Tetrimon affair, we had been involved in more events that ANY other group in EVE without exception. In the course of this we often 'succeeded' in events that we later realized were not meant to be won, then watched as AURORA actors deperately lost the scenario (when actors have to resort to self-destructing thier own ships in the middle of battle, you know you have an ulterior motive underway in the story...groan...) Mirial was in browsing (illegally) one of these ISD forums when one of the 'recommended' story paths was mandated by CCP, namely "_____ side must win, see to this immediately." Upon reading this decree by CCP, Mirial showed his cards and revealed all on our alliance's Vent server. 2 hours after bringing this up in our Ventrillo channel, Mirial was banned from EVE...for telling his Alliance members what was up. Turns out I was only one of many members of ISD in my Alliance, and the others had hit the alarm to the ISD dept heads as soon as this talk beagn in our private Vent server.... Within 30 minutes (of the reveal in vent) I had 2 AURORA members convoing us INGAME, OOC, trying to play down the fact. The two in question argued with Mirial, but did NOT deny that rigging was going on, rather emphasising that it was all for 'The Greater Good'. At the same time, Nebulai, Head of the ISD program, convoed ME (I was second in command of AM, an ISD-InterstallarCorespondents member, and a Mirial banning process was already in motion by 10-minutes into this, I was the primary focus of all damage control efforts), telling a different story, namely that RIGGING NEVER OCCURS, that all I had been hearing was nonsense.... AT THE SAME TIME, the document that I will give to you, was being sent to me by SEP-DOGAL, the AURORA tier 3 producer in charge of the Tetrimon Arc. He was sending it to me to show how much work had been done/lost with the arc, not realizing that the last paragraphs SPECIFICALLY DETAILED HOW THE ARC COULD BE RIGGED TO SUIT THE FINAL CCP DESCISION. The only hint anyone else who played EVE got as to what had occured, came from this post: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405843 With that, all said 'compromised' arcs were completely terminated, and all events in the matter hushed up quickly. The RP community has longed cursed Mirial's name for 'ruining' all of these arcs, unaware that he was banned for trying to bring this to the community's attention....AM held thier tongues for the good of that community, even after months of **-talk...they never spoke....bless-em.... It was a serious palm-to-forehead moment. It was the day I relized how **** up the game was. It did not stop there. Eventually, RP being ruined for me, I focused explicitly on my ISD char (His name was Raekhan, a reporter with the ISD for 1.5 years at his termination) Complaining about the way Raekhan was banned seems odd to me, considering how much I was able to use him to understand 0.0 realities in a way Alliance leaders can barely approach (I was an Empire-space RP-alliance leader, so conflicts-of-interest never became a problem, and with Raekahn, EVERY DAY I was able to simply jump and watch, from perfect safety, any offensive any Alliance happened to be engaging in. I used my jumpdrives more than any other person in CCP for sure....), but the day I lost Raekhan? Sickening and Stupid on the part of CCP, seriously, how could you ever accept the following as proper and effective damage control???
Felon goodnight	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:37:00 - [80] I was floating around in my Polaris frig, watching one of the massive, 270+-in-local battles in the south, BOB vs COALTION, BoB had already destroyed thier second POS in the system....when I 'text-jumped' (using admin "tr/ 'playername' jumpto command) to a certain Dread pilot I knew was in the action. Doing so teleports a polaris frig to that players ship...at 1 FOOT distance. I jumped to this position and immediately orbitted the gaggle of 20 dreads at 80KM, standard operating proceedure for ISD reporters.... A minute later, Daakon, of BoB, began yelling in local "Hey, Reporter, you bumped our dread!!!" This was a falsehood, since the dread I jumped to was on the outside of the group and I made sure not to do just that. I ignored him. A year and a half of Reportering and you get used to ALL BoB members trying to order/bully you around. It is a common practice (WAY TOO GODDAMN COMMON) that ISD members are ordered to completely ignore. Eventually, Mr. Daakon began giving me DIRECT ORDERS. "You must leave the system. Now. Move, you ***!!" My response? "Um...no?" Their response was pretty indicative of the manner in which BoB is used to ordering CCP personnel around...in LOCAL CHANNEL of 250+, Daakon replied: "Well, I guess I'll have to call up my friends in CCP and get you dealt with." I was sitting in ISD's IRC channel, as is required anytime you are logged in as an ISD char, and I decided to inform my dept. head of this development. He seemed amused.... Until 40 seconds later.... ISD IRC acounts have a lot of symbols in their usernames. They signify time-in-service, department membership, and other things, but after 40 seconds, a BRAND NEW userID appeared, bereft of any such demarcations or designations...an illegal and brand new ID... "Hey, anyone know some reporter named Raekhan!?" Me:"Um, yeah, that's me." "LEAVE THAT SYSTEM NOW, YOU ARE EMBARRASSING THE ISD AND CCP THE COMPANY!!" < Me: ORLY!? My ISD BOSS: 'ORLY!' the next minutes were interesting, as my ISD-IC dept head began briefing me on the minbute-by-minute actions of the internal affairs team (formed after your T-20 revelation I should point out) LEAPED on this matter in seconds. Me: "So I guess a BoB director claiming he has CCP buddies at his beckon call, and the fact that said buddy showed up 40 sec later, will raise some heads at CCP?" Boss: "Oh, I think it already has...." Me: "Well, at least something good will come from all this mess..." Boss: "We have his IP address." Boss: "He's posting from CCP, he's Staff." Boss: He's in the QA department...." after long pause* Boss: Well, I'll tell you how this goes tomorrow, take care, Rae..." I signed off. Turns out, within 3 hours, every ISD-related account I had was banned. ISD-ingame char, banned. Forum-ISD, banned. EVE-Online.com Admin access, banned. AURORA-TEAMSPEAK, banned. The freaking ISD-COUNTERSTRIKE server, banned. I never recieved an email explaining it. Every email I have sent to the comany politely asking for even a corp-speak explaination for this has been ignored. The company refuses to admit I exist. I was banned for reporting a serious conflict-of-interest to my 'chain-of-command' within the company.... My character, free to play as a side-benefit of doing work for CCP, was disabled, asking for funds to restart.... ...and that's the day I walked away....I have never looked back , and the games and projects I've become involved with since then have made me wish I hadn't wasted the 3 years I played EVE.... Everything I speak of here will be very 'circumstantial' evidence, un-totally-backable events that fanboys will decry as the bitter musings of another EVE dissident. Let them think this. I truly do gain pleasure from the axiom of 'a fool and his money are soon parted' and would wish nothing from the majority of the EVE community than to keep sending thier money to this once-great-company-now-conglomerate that I once recruited dozens of players to with conviction.
Felon goodnight	Posted - 2007.05.25 21:37:00 - [81] It took a lot to convince me of the truth, and not even the 'caught-red-handed' events that YOU exposed to the community could break my fanboy shell....till I saw it myself and kicked myself for being a naive idiot... I do not fear CCP's NDA prosecutions, as they possess no hard copy of said document...thank goodness for premature admissions to the program (I never mailed them the required paperwork, but got in anyway, a move I am glad now to have done). Anyhow, that's my story. None of my enemies ever realized just who I was, and what I could have abused to hurt them. This too is alright by me. Video games are a stupid thing to measure one's **-size with, a fact that many seem slow to realize.... (You may quote the entirety of the preceeding text verbatim if you wish. My time in CCP/EVE is long over,. All preceding text is your to use as you wish. I actually do feel a bit dirty being a cog in this very crooked 'crowd control' system, and attempts to reveal it as such to anyone will escape my notice, I am too involved with other projects to care. Best of luck in your efforts....you were right...I was a fool....) If you print anything, print this. "Graelyn: I was naive. Istvaan, you were right, too damned right, more than you may ever realize, you***sucker....." [ 2007.03.20 06:30:15 ] Orange Species > isd reporters are not to interfere with gameplay [ 2007.03.20 06:30:22 ] Orange Species > that includes getting too close [ 2007.03.20 06:30:25 ] Orange Species > to our ships [ 2007.03.20 06:30:32 ] D4kkon > petition her [ 2007.03.20 06:30:57 ] Orange Species > nah no petition [ 2007.03.20 06:31:00 ] Orange Species > msn chat is enough [ 2007.03.20 06:31:05 ] D4kkon > rgr Orange Species merely needs MSN to get CCP help, according to this log. Employees of CCP are conducting themselves in an unbecoming manner with regards to interfering in the game world. First there was the T20 incident in the past, with the creation of Tech2 blueprints by an employee who also happened to be the leader of RKK corp's capital fleet, which were then handed to members of BoB. After the debacle this caused, I was quite shocked, nay stunned to learn that this relationship is still ongoing and quite healthy indeed. Then we discovered that Nebulai, head of the notoriously corrupt Aurora RP department, was a member of EVOL corp by the name of M Hoshi. And now today we discover that CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar is at the beck and call of BoB capital pilots. I won't bore either of us with whiny details of how you enable cheating, stealing and an unbalanced environment, we've been over that. I will however try and instill a sense of urgency in you. This is a serious situation and it warrants the highest levels of attention on your part. Sincerely, The Customer.
Smada Bisot Enterprise	Posted - 2007.05.30 14:35:00 - [82] My client now locks up when accessing the character sheet, anyone seen this before? It has only started doing this since I renabled EVE Voice. Is this the "DEP thingys" to quote Jiekon? The client is running on a Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK iRAM "thingy" and I wondered if it was causing more problems than usual (with DEP) by running from RAM, even though my system sees the iRAM as a HDD. Unfortuantely can't mess with it as I'm not at home, and trying to talk a technophobe other-half through how to disable EVE Voice in the prefs.ini file, so she can set another skill running, is a major no-no!
Diabloss	Posted - 2007.06.01 08:00:00 - [83] I hope this is the right place to post. I have a MacBook pro Os 10.4.7 and i cannot run Eve with CrossOver 6.1 I get up to the character selection screen and it vanishes before i can do anything. I tried to modify the "voiceenabled" to 0, but the line does not existe in the "..Program Files/CCP/EVE/cache/prefs.ini" file. I added the line, but it still did not work Could anyone help please ?
Rackar al'Ulqua Arclight Support Services	Posted - 2007.06.11 06:09:00 - [84] I had a strange issue with once I enabled voice to try it, it takes over the key bindings for keyboard and mouse. I can no longer use anything but voice activation in TeamSpeak while EVE has focus. Seeing as how most people still use TS I wanted the option for both (one at a time) but now ViVox screwed me of that choice. Still problem with voiceenabled=0 --- Your RIGHTS are a PRIVILEGE, don't abuse them.
Guillaume LeTestu	Posted - 2007.06.19 20:11:00 - [85] Originally by: Smada The client is running on a Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK iRAM "thingy" I found this: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/fdm4000i4g Plugs right into your IDE slot. Wear leveling should make it last for years. Throughput is lower, but if you want to speed up Eve's caching, the high random access speeds could help.
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.20 08:11:00 - [86] Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 20/06/2007 08:10:21 Just like to point out that you've gone and ******* broken this voiceenabled=0 fix by nerfing prefs.ini into retirement! Free beer for the first man to fix it... -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Mallikanth	Posted - 2007.06.21 14:51:00 - [87] Running Vista Ultimate 32bit I have VoiceEnabled=1 in my prefs.ini and I can see all the settings in my ESC menu in-game. Prior to the Patch I have tried eve-voice and it worked ok (A bit quiet, but ok). After the Patch, my 'Enable' tick box in the ESC menu is unticked (as I expect because I had it turned off prior to the patch), yet when I click this box my client crashes with no error. Stick to TS for now methinks. I''l have to bug report this when I get a chance too.

Ductoris Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.25 04:26:00 - [88] Moving this thread out of GD. Anyone know if this is still needed? forum rules \| Email us

Rackar al'Ulqua Arclight Support Services	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:37:00 - [89] Haven't heard more on my problem. I don't 'need' it though. I said***** it all and re-installed XP. --- Your RIGHTS are a PRIVILEGE, don't abuse them.
SublightNova Amarr	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:45:00 - [90] I'm running vista ultimate and eve keeps crashing on me at least twice a day... :( or connection los issues.... :(
Ri0tX	Posted - 2007.10.28 17:25:00 - [91] I have Win Vista Ultimate 64 bit the client loads and plays for about 5 minutes without any issues later it crashes without any notice Anybody has any Ideas??
Mizar Polanco	Posted - 2007.10.31 00:34:00 - [92] I'm running vista as well, had two client crashes, but I know the cause and it is not EVE related. Its a video driver issue I'm working out. Other than that though it runs great, I hold about 200fps at full graphics at 1440x900 resolution. Custom built gaming computer, I love it.
Antdung	Posted - 2007.12.06 01:41:00 - [93] Yea im also running Vista and since the new Graphics update my client simply freezes on a regular basis
Ssj4gogeta	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:33:00 - [94] were do i get that file to edit, cache/prefs.ini thank you

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