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Hon chholo
Black Market Peso Exchange
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Posted - 2016.03.10 04:56:13 -
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Who the hell even came up with the idea of the new kill notification 'gong' and flashy cross? This is about obnoxious as it gets and reminds me of some old school snes sound effect.
Can someone explain to me how this fits into the context of Eve Online anyway? |
Skipper Riddles
Ivory Vanguard
4
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:02:17 -
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Well after playing for a while tonight only one thing seems to keep repeating in my head. Why did I not wait till after this update to renew my subscription...
I could have just as well given CCP 4-6 months to correct what they have done here. Then renewed.
It isn't that I cannot accept change. It is however that I cannot accept ridiculous changes. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
196
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:03:47 -
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This is AWESOME!
Great job CCP. I held off trying the new camera again until I figured it'd be in a somewhat usable state. And I admit I quite like it. It has all the functionality the old one had, plus it's snappier yet smoother at the same time. (still not using the new DScan and map though. Maybe I'll give it another whirl some day).
Great tiercide/rebalancing pass as well; I like every single modification you made, and 99% of my ships still fit to boot! Although ... silently replacing my ECCM with SeBoes yet without the ECCM script? Naughty naughty.
"Bong" is funny as hell; though word has it that sound also plays on PvE? My gut feeling tells me that'd get old real quick.
Agh. Details. Bottom line: excellent update lads, most exquisite. Can't wait to get my hands on a Grappler! o7 |
Malleus Raven
Steel Society Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:33:20 -
[184] - Quote
PLEASE either remove Gong noise for death of locked target or make it a seperate volume control. I can't even... |
Everett Kale
The Super Velociraptor Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:36:07 -
[185] - Quote
The gong noise seriously has to go seriously. makes PvEing impossible
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Jacob Sabezan
The Super Velociraptor Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:44:34 -
[186] - Quote
I do not understand the Gong noise. why was it added? it is unbearable when you want/need to hear the other UI noises. |
Hon chholo
Black Market Peso Exchange
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:53:11 -
[187] - Quote
somebody plz remix this at once, i know the eve community can pull this off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oai1V7kaFBk
dongdadongdongdong
XD |
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
261
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:56:13 -
[188] - Quote
Well no mission running yet...in the belts havent noticed this gong sound.
However i did notice, that after turning the new camera off...AGAIN that my headache i was getting went away, the wiplash effect of tracking, and the zoom-rezoom thing of targeting stuff just sucks. not too mention the panning of the camera is slow and clumsy feeling....where the old camera is smooth, speedy, and useable. |
Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
196
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Posted - 2016.03.10 05:59:57 -
[189] - Quote
You tried to tweak the camera? When disabling several options (like ... all of them) and hitting SHIFT-C (for tracking), and making the default setting a little "Stiff" it works like a charm! |
Hedgehog Mangeiri
Red Cold Chili Banderlogs Academy
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 06:18:04 -
[190] - Quote
Hi! What's happened to light missles? Now they deal 75 dmg instead of 200-300 with the same fit. 4 lvl mission, guristas pirate's BS, gila, 4 rapid LML scourge missles. |
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Jeven HouseBenyo
Fifty Shades of Funkyness LLC
377
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Posted - 2016.03.10 06:19:44 -
[191] - Quote
Brokk Witgenstein wrote:You tried to tweak the camera? When disabling several options (like ... all of them) and hitting SHIFT-C (for tracking), and making the default setting a little "Stiff" it works like a charm!
I have a lot of trouble taking seriously any option for graphics labelled 'Stiff' 'Tight' 'Snug' or 'Rigid'.
There has got to be a better word in someone's vocabulary for this setting's slider 'ends'.
How about letting us keep the old camera as a working option? If we have choices for Scanning and Probe option, a choice in Map, why cancel having choice with the camera? An extra month tacked on to the old camera before it's deleted is not enough time for the new one to be ready for full play primetime. Needs a LOT more alteration before it's as Functional and Efficient as the old one.
BONG!
Idea!
>Jeven
Minny boat flyer, unofficial squeaky wheel.
'Game Ethics and Morality Monitor' I remember promises.
Snark at 11-24/7/365.25. Overshare? Yup.
Yes it's my fault. And if you don't staap it I'll do it again. ;-P
No you can't has my stuffs OR my SPs.
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OKISAD
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:11:39 -
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So.. is time to quit eve forever...is not our game we love to play all day long.. now is a program full whit bugs and useless *****..CCP is a bad gost now or get poded and lost all implants? |
Sullen Bear
Arctic Spirit
46
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:12:25 -
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New kill animation and especially sound are worsest graphic change since gate jumping effect. Every time I jump through gate I must close my eyes. EVERY TIME. Now you want me to close eyes every time I kill or destroy something? And disable sound ofcourse? Trust me, playing EVE with closed eyes and ears is not exciting. But you really left no choice... except play something different ofcourse. Please, remove this flashing trash and sound ASAP. It really unacceptable. About watch list - by disabling it you simple remove from EVE some professions and gameplay tactics. What you add instead? Grathic trash? If you remove some good gameplay and not add something instead - then it is not right decision. Before yestaday I use watch list every day and I don't understand what was wrong with it. |
Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
376
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:22:30 -
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Adding another (gong) ... voice to (gong) .. request (gong) ... the removal (gong) of the new (gong) ... destruction (gong gong) sound......
really CCP ?
really?
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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
1491
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:24:42 -
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Niko Lorenzio wrote:From the winter Summit Minutes:
CSM Attendees GÇó Sugar Kyle GÇó Corbexx GÇó Gorski Car GÇó Jayne Fillon GÇó Chance Ravinne GÇó Steve Ronuken
Remote Attendees GÇó Cagali Cagali GÇó Endie GÇó Mike Azariah GÇó Sort Dragon
"Sort Dragon brought up the topic of the upcoming watch-list changes. CCP Fozzie asked if there was anyone that had any reasons to not go ahead with the change. Some points where people were using the watch list to help hunt targets in wormholes or in super capitals, some people used them to keep an eye on highsec war participants. No one thought these were use cases that were necessary to maintain. A point was raised of making the notifications you can send when adding a contact mention whether you were added to their watch list. Steve also brought up the idea of being able to mark yourself public, so that anyone can watch list you and see your status without you having to add them. Chance brought up the point of renaming the watch list due to it having the same name as the fleet watch list. Several suggestions were made for the name, with some being less appropriate than others."
Fire them all! Every last one!
Do not run. We are your friends.
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Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises The Marmite Collective
106
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:25:46 -
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Just want to take a moment to explain to you CCP, how much you suck for the CPU increases! All those tight fit ship, especially frigates just got the major screw over. It's another big kick in the ass for us long timers who have tons of ships that now need to be refitted. You really do hate your clients sometimes don't you? And you wonder why numbers shrink. It's because of stupid Crap like this that is just irritating. Renaming of mods that jack EFT fits. Just another step in the wrong direction.
eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà
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Tig Shnifer
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:26:33 -
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Vic Vorlon wrote:Other issue: I'm one of the few people who had the station environment turned off, to keep my laptop fan quiet while I'm in station. I understand why the feature was removed, but I'm sad to see it go. I hope you'll find a way to make better use of the station environment besides just spinning the ship. It should be functional in some way: cargo access or ship fitting, perhaps.
I LOVED static station. I could do all the admin stuff or just chat without my gpu spinning up for no reason. It spun up when I undocked, i.e. when I actually needed it. I'm pretty certain most station traders do the same.
Who can I invoice for my now-increased electric usage?
As for the gong, doesn't bother me I've had eve muted since month 2, but CCP I'm wondering how many times you are going to keep pulling this crap. The whole dscan-animation thing was just last patch. Please stop changing basic things for the sake of changing things. Or at least tell someone you have so you can get feedback before patch day rather than need a ton of replies after.
On a positive note thanks for not force-removing the old camera yet. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
670
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:28:41 -
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I know Im not the only one. Station load environment and closing of hangars upon ship changes for starters!!
With the tactical view Id love continuance of zoom level while docking/undocking or even entering warping while in the mode.
Imam: Have you heard anything I've said?
Richard B. Riddick: You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
Imam: That's right.
Richard B. Riddick: Had to end sometime.
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Idame Isqua
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
19
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:29:37 -
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"The 'Load Station Environment' toggle has been removed from the graphic settings inside the settings menu."
GET RKD CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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**** this **** that I refuse to login until this retardedness is fixed.
Otherwise I can't really comment
Though the target painter changes sound **** |
Major Natalya
Systems Alliance
9
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Posted - 2016.03.10 07:59:18 -
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Sullen Bear wrote:New kill animation and especially sound are worsest graphic change since gate jumping effect. Every time I jump through gate I must close my eyes. EVERY TIME. Now you want me to close eyes every time I kill or destroy something? And disable sound ofcourse? Trust me, playing EVE with closed eyes and ears is not exciting. But you really left no choice... except play something different ofcourse. Please, remove this flashing trash and sound ASAP. It really unacceptable. About watch list - by disabling it you simple remove from EVE some professions and gameplay tactics. What you add instead? Grathic trash? If you remove some good gameplay and not add something instead - then it is not right decision. Before yesterday I use watch list every day and I don't understand what was wrong with it.
Yea, I close my eyes too so as not to see the warp tunnel when jumping through gates.
Considering the frequency that we have to jump through gates, the warp tunnel effect, which still has that sticky glitch in the middle of it, and the sound effect that accompanies it, is a constant energy-sucking irritation. Like banging your head on the wall every time you jump through a gate.
Make jumping gates smooth and painless please, we do it all day long.
And get rid of the kill animation and gong. "This is not Hello Kitty Adventure Island" |
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Lucia Heart
Total Insecurity Solyaris Chtonium
2
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Posted - 2016.03.10 08:04:48 -
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Ive nearly had enough. The changes for nothing more than change has been doing my head in for a while but this patch with the arcade style gong when you kill a ship, with the big X that covers the explosion and the constant voice yakking in the station now has more or less proven to me that there has been some kind of disconnect between the players of the game and the developers. There seemed to be some kind of respect happening for peoples choices when we could opt out of new maps and new cameras etc but now its just rammed down our throats.Forcing the new camera on so many pvp'ers who don't want it and have spent years developing their intuitive use of the tracking camera is another. I think ccp should spend time working out how to get more players to play this once wonderful game rather than finding more ways to alienate the current players. Its gets to a point where you dont 'feel' the game anymore. Like i said Ive just about had enough. |
Klara Zufall
Stryker Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 08:06:45 -
[202] - Quote
*flame mode on* My dearest thanks for this buddy-list. Now i can securely bring on all my PI-alts and nobdoy of those f***-WH-buggers will ever notice that, because they will be bored to death. And of course i can delete my 1000 bad standings contacts and just concentrate on my rocks. Thanks for making WH a little more safe. But btw: could you pretty please bring HS-Wh's, perhaps with sleeper-concord-ventures? *flame mode off*
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1706
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Posted - 2016.03.10 08:12:13 -
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Neadayan Drakhon wrote:It's NOT a buddy list no matter how much CCP thinks it is. the problem is: it IS buddy list since last patch no matter what you and others say it's CCP who decides......
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5854
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Posted - 2016.03.10 08:23:36 -
[204] - Quote
Why I'm done with Project Discovery:
1. I spend a _lot_ of time making a very careful and thorough analysis. 2. The results show I picked the same as most others have picked. 3. I get an accuracy reduction.
I can't advance. I hover around 50% (high 54%). No reward in that for me. |
Thorvald Debronur
Das Raumfahrer Syndikat The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2016.03.10 08:48:11 -
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Gong... |
Duke Killem
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2016.03.10 09:00:32 -
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Tyranis Marcus wrote:Niko Lorenzio wrote:From the winter Summit Minutes:
CSM Attendees GÇó Sugar Kyle GÇó Corbexx GÇó Gorski Car GÇó Jayne Fillon GÇó Chance Ravinne GÇó Steve Ronuken
Remote Attendees GÇó Cagali Cagali GÇó Endie GÇó Mike Azariah GÇó Sort Dragon
"Sort Dragon brought up the topic of the upcoming watch-list changes. CCP Fozzie asked if there was anyone that had any reasons to not go ahead with the change. Some points where people were using the watch list to help hunt targets in wormholes or in super capitals, some people used them to keep an eye on highsec war participants. No one thought these were use cases that were necessary to maintain. A point was raised of making the notifications you can send when adding a contact mention whether you were added to their watch list. Steve also brought up the idea of being able to mark yourself public, so that anyone can watch list you and see your status without you having to add them. Chance brought up the point of renaming the watch list due to it having the same name as the fleet watch list. Several suggestions were made for the name, with some being less appropriate than others." Fire them all! Every last one!
Do these CSM members even player the ******* game? Did they also know about the kill gong? If they did don't just fire them, ban them from the game...
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motie one
Secret Passage
73
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Posted - 2016.03.10 09:16:09 -
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helana Tsero wrote:Monite Harajem wrote:
I get Worm holers and super/titan pilotes didnt like being watch listed
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Actually wormholers hate this change. Watchlisting prevented PVPers from wasting our time hunting a target if he had logged off. Without local channel you dont know if he is still there or not. It also let us know if someone had logged into their home wormhole. so we could go see if we could get a fight. On the otherside of the fence.. PVE players also like the watchlist becuase if they saw a hunter enter their wormhole (because they had effective scout/security procedures) they could watchlist him.. if he logs off they get a notification and now know its safe to go do their pve activities. Now they have no idea.. he could be still in their system cloaked.. so they will just log off instead of play. Net result. More time wasting.. less content for both PVPers and PVEers in wormhole space. Good job CCP !
It is not so much that we hate this change, It does make life harder for us, but it is the right thing for the game. Free intel in the game, needs a solid justification, the old watch lists did not have this.
It is a good change for good solid reasons.
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Odelll
Project Valhalla. The Initiative.
25
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Posted - 2016.03.10 10:16:08 -
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came to say watchlist change is a good step in the right direction... now if we could only get rid of local |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2016.03.10 10:27:50 -
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March Patch wrote:1) The 'Load Station Environment' toggle has been removed from the graphic settings inside the settings menu.
2) *tiericide and new Stasis module*
3) EVE Flight Academy tutorial videos can now be accessed in the game client from the F12 menu.
4) "Buddy list" mutual consent
1) Are you out of your mind or something? Why do you keep forcing things onto players? Is this Incarna again? For everyone having performance issues; bring up the OLD MAP and put it into system mode. That causes the least strain on your system.
2) Fine, I guess? Most of the time tiericide is "basically" doing a good job but those modules are not really that much up my interest-meter so I can't tell.
3) You're late. The flight academy videos have been in the game since last patch. They are still not really up to par to fix the issues with new player experience, and you still can't rewind them, and they still eat stupid amounts of system resources compared to letting HD youtube videos run in the background.
4) I'm torn on this one. Yes, free intel should be reduced. But I'd rather have ALL local chats put in "delay" mode than messing with the watchlist first. Because, you know, some people actually only engage in conversations with someone when they see them online, which only works when they are watchlisted. But I know, this is big-bad-eve-online, friends and buddies don't exist
The biggest problem with the Watchlist I see here, is how the train of thought has been done. It is set to "deny information by default and allow by uncommunicated, mutual exception." instead of "allow by request and deny at will." What do I mean by that: If you want to watchlist someone, the other person should get a prompt that to see the watchlist request. They can either allow or deny it. And at any time, a person should be able to revoke the watchlist allowance through contact edit.
I could bring up a few lore points why removing the ability to watchlist someone freely is stupid.
But at the end of the day, you just did another bandaid fix without properly thinking it through. You are again ignoring consequences and proper, meaningful interactions. I agree that not everyone should watchlist anyone just "because" even when they don't even had any interaction so far. But I am all up for being able to one-sided watchlists after an engagement in pvp. Because then you have the "ID" so to speak.
However, all that is only ship-pvp related. Market pvp got a bit more "interesting" now, but without remedy.
But let me introduce something else, and again pointing out how you didn't think things through. You have something against free intel? Okay! How about PAID INTEL? We can pay locator agents to see where someone is currently located. We should also be able to pay a fee to watchlist someone without mutual consent. For a day / week / month / year. We need more ISK sinks, and that would be a perfect opportunity to bring one.
Oh and, edit; Make the "kill-gong-notification" optional and opted OUT by default. You are ridiculing your own game. Hard. |
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
338
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Posted - 2016.03.10 10:32:28 -
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Niko Lorenzio wrote:Just heard/saw the new effects. Question, can we somehow wire the intercom at CCP office to play this gong every time someone posts on this thread? Post the killmail you just did on their twitter account. That should substitute quite well for a "gong" c: IF everyone is doing that, then they'll soon see how annoying it can get. |
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