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Frogzuk Dragonian Freelancers Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:39:00 - [241] Those of you that sided with BOB dont get it do you. Bob has said in the past that 'THEY' want to own all of 0.0, so with this in mind those of you jumping on the lets defend BoB bandwagon will either 1) become thier pets if they were to win 2) become their targets should those fighting BoB lose GL everyone and lets have more smack free pew pew
WETRAIN Minmatar Viper Squad Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:54:00 - [242] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Edited by: Liu Kaskakka on 10/02/2007 00:51:37 Originally by: Rail Duke BoD Devkoku, Devolution, Devstructive Influence, GMC and TAISDP? You sir just made my week not only this day ----------------------------------------- When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus - -----------------------------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:56:00 - [243] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 13:52:51 Originally by: Frogzuk Those of you that sided with BOB dont get it do you. Bob has said in the past that 'THEY' want to own all of 0.0, so with this in mind those of you jumping on the lets defend BoB bandwagon will either Wait a minute... and everyone else doesn't? I have a hard time believing that the anti-BoB NAPwagon is going to just attack BoB, kill them, and then leave and not touch the space they owned . I would much rather Band of Brothers own all of 0.0 than Goonfleet, regardless, though I doubt either will ever happen. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Morbius Nyks Amarr Rave Technologies Inc. Ion Core	Posted - 2007.02.12 14:11:00 - [244] This war should be called Tinfoil Revolution
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 14:30:00 - [245] Originally by: DiuxDium Prediction: BoB will create a stand still, not because they're being beaten, but because they understand the nature of band wagoners. The moment those on the band wagon begin to lose ships, without killing any BoB, they'll begin falling off one by one. Slowly the "Coalition" will fall apart. People will lose interest, the "passion" they're showing now is really nothing more than the same passion a 12 year old boy shows for his newest toy. It will pass, as all things do. The thing that won't pass though, is BoB's will to dominate. So they shall. You can't stop a force such as BoB with a bit of bandwagon knee-jerk fools. Enjoy your little "Fighting the evil BoB(D)" party. It won't last. I eagerly away the "Omg BoD r haxing again lol so we quit cuss noh worth playing". Mmmmmmm, humble pie be cooking. sure sure.. the germans tought exaclty the same thing 65 years ago about the allies. Do i need to remind you how it finished? Or how stuborn Reds can be? If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
merc999 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.12 14:41:00 - [246] And with all due respect to LV/BoB this is what they really dont understand about the tactics being used against them. Everyone knows this will be a long war of attrition, there will be no quick decisive blow that decides this.. Goonfleet understand this concept totally and will willingly throw 150 T1 fitted frigates and cruisers to kill 10-20 T2 fitted battleships, as long as those battleships go down the losses to them are totally irrelevant. I was on TS and jumped into JV with 200 goons the other night, word came through that after we jumped in BoB had bubbled the otherside of the gate out, they simply didnt understand that bubbling the way out was totally uneeded, the Goons had no intention of jumping back out, they were there to kill as much as possible and to hell with the losses. Kill/Loss stastics mean nothing in this war (btw I say that from a stand point of our alliance having killed more than lost so far) wearing down the enemies ability to fight, taking and destroying the enemies major assets and reoving the enemies abilty to fund this war are what will win. To date the coalition against LV/BoB in the curse region have taken fairly large scale action agianst the enemy on their own or with small ad hoc groups, once the command structure is talking properly and co-ordinated attacks really start to take off then the war will start to kick off All the above is my view alone and not of my corps or alliance
Rat Hubble Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:15:00 - [247] Originally by: merc999 And with all due respect to LV/BoB this is what they really dont understand about the tactics being used against them. Everyone knows this will be a long war of attrition, there will be no quick decisive blow that decides this.. Goonfleet understand this concept totally and will willingly throw 150 T1 fitted frigates and cruisers to kill 10-20 T2 fitted battleships, as long as those battleships go down the losses to them are totally irrelevant. I was on TS and jumped into JV with 200 goons the other night, word came through that after we jumped in BoB had bubbled the otherside of the gate out, they simply didnt understand that bubbling the way out was totally uneeded, the Goons had no intention of jumping back out, they were there to kill as much as possible and to hell with the losses. Kill/Loss stastics mean nothing in this war (btw I say that from a stand point of our alliance having killed more than lost so far) wearing down the enemies ability to fight, taking and destroying the enemies major assets and reoving the enemies abilty to fund this war are what will win. To date the coalition against LV/BoB in the curse region have taken fairly large scale action agianst the enemy on their own or with small ad hoc groups, once the command structure is talking properly and co-ordinated attacks really start to take off then the war will start to kick off All the above is my view alone and not of my corps or alliance /me cuts n pastes to notepad - save to c:/documents and settings/my documents/mumbojumbo place holders- "pointless rhetoric"
Von Kleist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:24:00 - [248] Originally by: DiuxDium Prediction: BoB will create a stand still, not because they're being beaten, but because they understand the nature of band wagoners. The moment those on the band wagon begin to lose ships, without killing any BoB, they'll begin falling off one by one. Slowly the "Coalition" will fall apart. People will lose interest, the "passion" they're showing now is really nothing more than the same passion a 12 year old boy shows for his newest toy. It will pass, as all things do. The thing that won't pass though, is BoB's will to dominate. So they shall. You can't stop a force such as BoB with a bit of bandwagon knee-jerk fools. Enjoy your little "Fighting the evil BoB(D)" party. It won't last. I eagerly away the "Omg BoD r haxing again lol so we quit cuss noh worth playing". Mmmmmmm, humble pie be cooking. 1. Who are you exactly, and why are you important? 3. BoD die just like anyone else. C.) There are no goons, goodbye. I'd also like to mention how great it is working with corps and alliances I personally assumed would never be blue to me. You guys are awesome and a lot of fun to play with. And a thank you to BoD, if it were not for your failure as an alliance, none of this would be possible. This is my opinion only, the opinion of my alliance sounds like a creature who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 16:50:00 - [249] Originally by: LordMordred I would have to say this is infact Eve War II if anything. SA vs CA then all the third parties involed, was EVE War I, and really set the stage for everything happening right now. That is just my humble opinion however. I think this too. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Luthien Firefoot Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.12 17:10:00 - [250] Originally by: Herculite Originally by: Tonkin Originally by: CreEDLom Edited by: CreEDLom on 10/02/2007 02:05:03 OK guys can we get a idea of who is on what sides? So far I have. . . RA TCF GoonSwarm IAC CA AAA D2 IRON MM Razor Pandemic Legion SMASH Alliance KOS CLS TNT Prime Orbital Systems -VS- BoB MC FIX RISE Xelas LV ISS CCP you forget CCP on BOB's side If the devs were on BoB's side they would have fixed loggofski months ago. well it didn't work for one of ur domi pilots during the war, so it's not all bad. wtb - the egg on ur face.

Gorvan	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:39:00 - [251] My statement is this.... The sandbox we call EVE is mostly controlled by us. It is within given rules to shift and shake. No matter who or what you believe every single person has an impact in some form. The Law of the players seems to be in effect. How cool is it that this is even possible. The battles that will take place are rule enforcement by players in a odd way. The flying debris from this War will be felt by every active player in some way. Gorvan
Rahn Altyr Minmatar Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.13 03:11:00 - [252] Edited by: Rahn Altyr on 13/02/2007 03:09:30 Originally by: CreEDLom Edited by: CreEDLom on 10/02/2007 03:39:20 OK guys can we get a idea of who is on what sides? So far I have. . . RA TCF GoonSwarm IAC CA AAA D2 IRON MM Razor Pandemic Legion SMASH Alliance KOS CLS TNT Prime Orbital Systems Triumvirate -VS- BoB MC FIX RISE Xelas LV ISS Southern Connection AXE INTERDICTION Cult Of War Fallen Souls EXE Seems that people ignored Mitch's post about us. Edit: I guess I forgot about our friends in EXE too... sorry guys. The Dark is Rising. Come, and rise with us.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 03:51:00 - [253] Edited by: Plutoinum on 13/02/2007 03:51:13 Originally by: Frogzuk Those of you that sided with BOB dont get it do you. Bob has said in the past that 'THEY' want to own all of 0.0, so with this in mind those of you jumping on the lets defend BoB bandwagon will either 1) become thier pets if they were to win 2) become their targets should those fighting BoB lose GL everyone and lets have more smack free pew pew Well, if I take into account that the enemy took your space and you just joined his side after that, I find it a bit funny. Seems not to hurt to get assimilated.
Katoom Caldari OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.02.13 04:41:00 - [254] We are here to fight the good fight - BoB 4TW!
Tab'Fren	Posted - 2007.02.13 04:51:00 - [255] Originally by: thetwilitehour Originally by: Siliya just want to Make sure I Understand this Setup BoB Attacks RA Goon & friends 6 or so hours ago the Dev Scandle goes down BoB Becomes Targeted by most of the Server just making sure I understand this.... was that the case or was this a Strike of oppurtunity D2 has contigency plans allowing us to invade any region in Eve within 6 hours of a dev scandal being announced. omg, snarfing coffee hurts. Thanks for the laugh.
Tab'Fren	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:01:00 - [256] Originally by: Herculite If this were some evil tinfoil ccp conspiracy they could have just claimed all the BPO's were legit as there are older players with a better collection. Instead they fessed up when they didn't have to. Ahem. There wasn't a conspiracy until someone else at CCP decided that BoD should continue to have access to the BPOs for another 8 months after t20's actions were discovered. I'm glad it's all-out war, because I don't really have anything else I want to accomplish atm other than getting a few pounds of flesh.
Sharmina ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:17:00 - [257] Originally by: Rahn Altyr Edited by: Rahn Altyr on 13/02/2007 03:09:30 Originally by: CreEDLom Edited by: CreEDLom on 10/02/2007 03:39:20 OK guys can we get a idea of who is on what sides? So far I have. . . RA TCF GoonSwarm IAC CA AAA D2 IRON MM Razor Pandemic Legion SMASH Alliance KOS CLS TNT Prime Orbital Systems Triumvirate -VS- BoB MC FIX RISE Xelas LV ISS Southern Connection AXE INTERDICTION Cult Of War Fallen Souls EXE SCA Well I have added Southern Cross Alliance The iron fist in a velvet glove R
Anaximander Monk Mandala Group	Posted - 2007.02.13 05:36:00 - [258] Its interesting to note the 'feel' of the war, so far as the forums go. There seems to be overwhelming support for and faith in BoBs enemies. BoBs apparent backers seem to consist mainly of their vassals and allies. I put it down to the absence of the BoB propaganda squad. Viva La Revolucion!
Frederick Sheh Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:06:00 - [259] The best thing I can see coming out of this are the FRAPS movies of the fights. Good luck everyone. .FS Ensign Frederick_Sheh (Agent Relations) - Military Division - Hadean Drive Yards
D1ck Jones Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:19:00 - [260] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 10/02/2007 08:01:53 Originally by: Degaal Valen I'd really take issue with any broad-sweeping action on CCP's part that penalized the innocent along with the guilty. To put it bluntly I felt like I was the victim of something similar at the hands of BoB, blindly labeling all goons a cancer, comparing us to terrorists, etc, and I'd rather not see the same thing done to the innocent amongst them. More importantly I'd be upset at anything that ruined my chance to enjoy an in-game battle with my alliance against another alliance I have felt took things to a personal level unnecessarily last summer. I still remember that stuff said about us last summer by BoB leaders and the hypocracy of comments about goonswarm not caring about the EVE community and being a cancer on it while BoB was receving inside information and T2 BPOs is not lost on me in the slightest. Yes looking back the irony is strong is it not... BoB did their holy crusade against Goons on the very pretext that they had overstepped the boundaries of what is acceptable within EVE. Well.... whaddya know huh.... However there is a crucial difference... Goons can be accused of poor taste.. but they cannot be accused of looking the other way in the face of developer collusion. In my books the accusations BoB is faced with are far worse... they attack the very point of playing a fiercely competitive pvp game like EVE where even the smallest advantage can have a ripple effect with unforseen consequences. And IMO some big sweeping punishment from CCP should be forthcoming.. if for no other reason than to protect the meritocracy inherent in the EVE system.. where through collective effort things can be achieved and competitiveness on an alliance scale is not determined by whether you have devs onboard or not. Cause if EVE is not a true meritocracy.. I don't wanna be here. We got enough of that crap in RL. Nez is eve's ultimate Bill Clinton. He jsut goes which ever way the wind is blowing. sad sad sad

Zarin	Posted - 2007.02.13 06:21:00 - [261] Originally by: Sharmina Originally by: Rahn Altyr Edited by: Rahn Altyr on 13/02/2007 03:09:30 Originally by: CreEDLom Edited by: CreEDLom on 10/02/2007 03:39:20 OK guys can we get a idea of who is on what sides? So far I have. . . -VS- BoB SCA Well I have added Southern Cross Alliance Yeah, but really for how long? 2 weeks then change sides?
Frogzuk Dragonian Freelancers Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:02:00 - [262] Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 13/02/2007 03:51:13 Originally by: Frogzuk Those of you that sided with BOB dont get it do you. Bob has said in the past that 'THEY' want to own all of 0.0, so with this in mind those of you jumping on the lets defend BoB bandwagon will either 1) become their pets if they were to win 2) become their targets should those fighting BoB lose GL everyone and lets have more smack free pew pew Well, if I take into account that the enemy took your space and you just joined his side after that, I find it a bit funny. Seems not to hurt to get assimilated. /me points to my history, nuff said really. So the decision as to which side i took wasnt really an issue, after fighting both RA and BOB i have a hell a lot more respect for RA tbh so thats leaves the issue of do DGF sit on the sidelines and watch history unfold or should we pick a side and take part ? DGF nor I will never be a BoB puppet/fanboi lets have plenty of pew pew and perhaps CoW could show some balls by actually bringing some 'real' ships to the fight instead of nanoing all over the place. LV and Bob have a nice history of stabbing people in the back, I am pretty sure that if it wasnt for BoB's onslaught on ASCN,then it would not had been RA/Goons etel that V would need to had worried about - you have sided with the side that were looking to quite happily stab V in the back ........ intel i received at that time suggested that ASCN were gearing for war against V and LV were gonna side on the side and watch the onslaught ... speculation you may say, but my source is good... so .... Plutoinum what it like to lay in the bed with the real enemies of V ? Froggy
Minuz1 Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:25:00 - [263] Edited by: Minuz1 on 13/02/2007 10:27:38 Originally by: Frogzuk Me points to my history, nuff said really. So the decision as to which side i took wasnt really an issue, after fighting both RA and BOB i have a hell a lot more respect for RA tbh so thats leaves the issue of do DGF sit on the sidelines and watch history unfold or should we pick a side and take part ? Have you listened to remedials pep talk/speech? In that he confirms that after LV, BoB would be the next target? Now if your alliance had some balls and would be threatend like that....wouldn't you fight alongside someone who's already at war with them? As soon as BoB heard about this I'm pretty sure they said to themselfs...."ok either we fight them now....or we wait until the war between them and LV will come to an end and wait for them to attack us, hey maybe LV will win or the war will last over decades" It was a logical step for them to band with us to fight a common enemy alongside us. Originally by: Frogzuk DGF nor I will never be a BoB puppet/fanboi lets have plenty of pew pew and perhaps CoW could show some balls by actually bringing some 'real' ships to the fight instead of nanoing all over the place. Sure....as soon as your side brings a single titan into play...they'll lay off nanofibers :P Originally by: Frogzuk LV and Bob have a nice history of stabbing people in the back, I am pretty sure that if it wasnt for BoB's onslaught on ASCN,then it would not had been RA/Goons etel that V would need to had worried about - you have sided with the side that were looking to quite happily stab V in the back ........ For every action we have taken against "former" friends there have been reasons....maybe some that don't fit your bill....but reasons that LV's high command thought to justify war dec's (we never lay in siege against our victims of "betrayals") which would be a logical things to do if were to betray them. Originally by: Frogzuk intel i received at that time suggested that ASCN were gearing for war against V and LV were gonna side on the side and watch the onslaught ... speculation you may say, but my source is good... so .... Plutoinum what it like to lay in the bed with the real enemies of V ? You can probably have a ASCN High command member talk about this....the answers should be pretty straight since the alliance is no more. (ohh and btw France thought about trading Louisianna to Denmark for Iceland some centuries ago) --I've answered all these questions with hopes of bringing the intellect to a higher level...please try to come up with something that hasn't been tried to be explained in dozens of other posts.....I think about everybody on the cluster knows that you think we backstab our allies.....MOVE ALONG!!! The Tech 2 Lottery is rigged, In my favor!
Nastratu Minmatar Serefon Creatin	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:32:00 - [264] Given the following two premises: 1. A few of BoB members might have knowingly collaborated with the dishonest dev. 2. All those who knowingly collaborated with the dishonest dev are cheaters, they suck big time and should be banned because they can never be trusted. Datermine whether the following statement is true or false: Therefore all BoB members suck big time and should be banned because none of them can ever be trusted. If you picked 'True' as your answer, congratulations, you just failed the IQ logic test and earned yourself a total score of about 62 corresponding to about 0.0003% of EVE population. Have a nice day arguing here on the forums about it!
Frogzuk Dragonian Freelancers Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 10:53:00 - [265] Quote: --I've answered all these questions with hopes of bringing the intellect to a higher level...please try to come up with something that hasn't been tried to be explained in dozens of other posts.....I think about everybody on the cluster knows that you think we backstab our allies.....MOVE ALONG!!! I just love the immaturity sometimes with quotes like 'move along' As for listening to remedial pep i am deaf so listening isnt something i can do rather well.... Titans, dont make me laugh, they are the most boring ship to be bought to the battle field, hell yea anyone with the skills can sit in a system and hit a button to destroy x number of ships, but thats not really pvp is it, more like PVS player verus space anything in the way goes pop <yawn>
Minuz1 Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:07:00 - [266] Originally by: Frogzuk Quote: --I've answered all these questions with hopes of bringing the intellect to a higher level...please try to come up with something that hasn't been tried to be explained in dozens of other posts.....I think about everybody on the cluster knows that you think we backstab our allies.....MOVE ALONG!!! I just love the immaturity sometimes with quotes like 'move along' As for listening to remedial pep i am deaf so listening isnt something i can do rather well.... Titans, dont make me laugh, they are the most boring ship to be bought to the battle field, hell yea anyone with the skills can sit in a system and hit a button to destroy x number of ships, but thats not really pvp is it, more like PVS player verus space anything in the way goes pop <yawn> Noone in LV is bored by our Titans....I fully admit it must suck to have to fly back home every time someone hits 1 button.....Dreadnoughts I think are the undisputed most boring ships ever! (I've sat over 50h's looking at POS's going down while listening to Bj÷rk)....and only seen like 20 mins of action in total so far. You prefer "get over it" or "We get it already" ? The Tech 2 Lottery is rigged, In my favor!
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:27:00 - [267] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/02/2007 13:52:51 Originally by: Frogzuk Those of you that sided with BOB dont get it do you. Bob has said in the past that 'THEY' want to own all of 0.0, so with this in mind those of you jumping on the lets defend BoB bandwagon will either Wait a minute... and everyone else doesn't? I have a hard time believing that the anti-BoB NAPwagon is going to just attack BoB, kill them, and then leave and not touch the space they owned . I would much rather Band of Brothers own all of 0.0 than Goonfleet, regardless, though I doubt either will ever happen. I'm faird your pretty much uber wrong here. Let me point out. BOB owns all of the stations that thier pets live out of(Xelas is the only exception). Yous live in bobs space. Remember this now. GoonFleet don't own al of the stations that their allies base in. So they are not pets. You could come bac kand say same thing about Xelas having the same right but they always attack and help defend bob. You could also say MC, but those forces live insideBoB sapce. And thats why you are wrong. The other alliances, RA, CA, GoonFleet control their own space with their own boundaries. About BOB owning all of space. BOB's threat can be taken seriously, however I doubt they will be able to do such a thing. Nor anyoneelse in the EVE galaxy. AND PLEASE CHANGE THE TITLE TO ::: "Galactic EVE war II" or something WIHT A TWO. The fist was CA vs. everyone. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:42:00 - [268] Edited by: Plutoinum on 13/02/2007 11:45:58 Originally by: Frogzuk DGF nor I will never be a BoB puppet/fanboi lets have plenty of pew pew and perhaps CoW could show some balls by actually bringing some 'real' ships to the fight instead of nanoing all over the place. Not that a 15+ CA gang with at least one nanophoon tried to gank me this morning while I was ratting. Tbh, first I understood it wrong with 'bring some real ships' and loled, because the last times we were in GW with real ships, like a 30-40 people gang of mostly BS, we got either no response or a frig cruiser response from CA. Seemed almost familiar to the last weeks in -V-: People flying crap and LD saying: 'Guys, we need more BS !' When we form a cow fleet, it's more like: 'Sh!t, everyone in BS, we don't have tacklers.' Ok, enough smack. Hehe. Cu in space. And don't forget, GW is a warzone !
zildjin	Posted - 2007.02.13 13:28:00 - [269] Posting with an unidentified character in this forum is prohibited, if you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.13 14:15:00 - [270] O.k cleaned this thread AGAIN Any posts that talk about dev misconduct no matter if its a joke, small comment or anything else will be removed, lets not derail a good thread. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us \| Wikipedia Entry They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long




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