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Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:14:00 - [31] The Establishment is just as likely to shoot The Imperial Order - including Davlin's new toy - as much as CVA or U'K The Establishment is at your service...
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 19:44:00 - [32] Edited by: Garreck on 20/02/2007 19:42:11 Originally by: Wanoah Once again, the CVA oppressors seek to destroy free commerce and legitimate business in the Providence region. Originally by: Houzukimaru we just enforce a strong NBSI policy. You guys gotta get on the same page, Wanoah... To any who care, this conflict has been building for quite some time (with predictably favorable results) precisely because of Imperial Order's "Not Blue, Shoot It" policy. CVA always has and always will encouraged free commerce and legitimate business in Providence. Consider the coming decimation of Imperial Order a further execution of our legitimate business policy.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:11:00 - [33] Originally by: Houzukimaru As far as Davlin... He's a great pilot I asure you that those 'gankings' as you call them were all purely self defence. And even so he wasn't a member of IO at the time. Please tell me you haven't deluded yourself into thinking this? Ok how does he a)Get his sec rating in self defence, b)Explain sitting just off a gate cloaked waiting for targets to jump in, c)How do you explain yourselves working with UK to kill, and I quote, "A new pirate mothership in the area" when Davlin first showed up. And Imperial Order were KOS'ed for repeated piracy in Empire and Providence.
Vampire Lord World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 20/02/2007 19:42:11 Originally by: Wanoah Once again, the CVA oppressors seek to destroy free commerce and legitimate business in the Providence region. Originally by: Houzukimaru we just enforce a strong NBSI policy. You guys gotta get on the same page, Wanoah... To any who care, this conflict has been building for quite some time (with predictably favorable results) precisely because of Imperial Order's "Not Blue, Shoot It" policy. CVA always has and always will encouraged free commerce and legitimate business in Providence. Consider the coming decimation of Imperial Order a further execution of our legitimate business policy. Those are very strong words. You have to understand that IO will not just defend our space. We will go on the offensive full force if you try to wipe us out. Do not make the mistake of taking us lightly
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Vampire Lord Those are very strong words. You have to understand that IO will not just defend our space. We will go on the offensive full force if you try to wipe us out. Do not make the mistake of taking us lightly Thank you for briefing me on what war entails, Vampire Lord.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.02.21 01:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Wanoah the Empire and its vassal states: the Minmatar Republic, the Khanid Kingdom, the Ammatar Mandate, and the Caldari State. Please. The Republic is the Empire's archenemy. The Khanids are allies, not vassals. And the Caldari State will only remain friends with the Empire as long as it is profitable to do so. The Ammatars - yeah, they're vassals. __________________________________________ What I say should not be taken as the position of Gradient or NMTZ.
Aequitas Harbinger	Posted - 2007.02.21 02:34:00 - [37] Edited by: Aequitas Harbinger on 21/02/2007 02:32:19 I'd like to touch on a few items mentioned here. It does not matter who are the agressors: CVA has declared war, IO and UK will finish it. We are thrilled to be working even closer with Ushra'Khan. Representing the same ideals (but implementing them differently), a common war will pull us even closer. So thank you for that, CVA. We are pirates to some, defenders of our space to others. Even with our NBSI policy, neutrals travel into our pocket systems and attack miners and ratters without warning. A long time ago, we decided to take a pro-active stance on this. If you do not like being destroyed by us, you should contact us about being on our blue list. Simple as that. I ran across Davlin in Tash Murkon a few days before he jumped into our gatecamp in KBP. He was camping a gate leading into a highsec system. When I passed through, he was not attacking neutrals. Only CVA and their sympathizers. I went on my way without much of a word. Not two days later, as we were protecting our space, he cyno'd in ontop of us. We took this as hostile action and planned to repel him. However, he made no hostile moves, and began communicating to us. We spoke to him over voicecomms for over a week before he expressed interest in joining the alliance. We took necessary precautions before allowing him in, and heard his stories. They are best told by him, but eventually we discovered our blue lists and our red lists were virtually the same. It was near the beginning of CVA agression against IO, and heard of the transgressions committed by CVA against this individual. Since then, Davlin has proved to be a very worthy individual in our alliance. It was difficult to look past the assets he possesses, and we were very cautious in our dealings with him. It is very important to look at him as an individual rather than a mothership: I assure you, his intelligence and experience is worth exponentially more than his possessions. In closing, CVA's crimes against humanity and The Imperial Order will be their undoing. IO Forever, Aequitas Harbinger Messenger of Justice
Aran Cole Minmatar The Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.02.21 03:53:00 - [38] Originally by: Aequitas Harbinger In closing, CVA's crimes against humanity and The Imperial Order will be their undoing. Apparantly CVA didn't declare war on pirates; they declared war on the Cluster's finest comedians. _______________________
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.21 08:42:00 - [39] Originally by: Aequitas Harbinger Edited by: Aequitas Harbinger on 21/02/2007 02:32:19 I'd like to touch on a few items mentioned here. It does not matter who are the agressors: CVA has declared war, IO and UK will finish it. We are thrilled to be working even closer with Ushra'Khan. Representing the same ideals (but implementing them differently), a common war will pull us even closer. So thank you for that, CVA. Quite simply the idea that you will finish it is quite amusing. And to be honest this war dec has changed nothing really, you were working opening with UK before, the only difference this war dec means that when you run into high sec we can follow to finish you off.
Dire Lonestar Caldari Global Isk Network Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:32:00 - [40] Edited by: Dire Lonestar on 21/02/2007 09:29:02 I wouldn't worry too much of CVA zealots words. Brainwashing simply left 'em with only a few institutional replies in such matters. The real situation they live is a sort of slavery under a tribal lord. No wonder they apply the same structure to lower levels, considering slavery a normal social institution. In space that doesn't work, their zealots can't stand the inner strenght of a pilot that believes in what he does because he's free and allowed to do it, against brainwashed puppets. That's why UK, Imperial Order and any force, alliance or simple corporation that pursues the path of freedom will never disappear. Unite we stand. -- Another one bites the dust!
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.21 09:59:00 - [41] Welcome to the fight for freedom. o> ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
Karbowiak Tenacious Danes Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.02.21 12:36:00 - [42] GO CVA, GO CVA, GO GO CVA! - or, is it IO that should go?.. i dont know, all bets are off in this war of the lower parts of control! :P oh, umm anyone traveling with IO guys - make sure they tell you whats around them, and what they see on scanner, me and scifi died one day with them in a gang - and actually using on of them as a scout, and got ganked by 3 carriers lol? :D funny day though - hope your guys have recovered from their "great" losses :P (noone talks about that i lost 250mill doing that, and scifi lost around the same.. anywhoo, were rich *****es now.. ;D)
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 07:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Pociomundo Edited by: Pociomundo on 23/02/2007 07:07:07 Perhaps you could extend that to not blanket labelling every member of an entire alliance because of the actions of few you may have witnessed / perceieved as being that of pirates. Imperial order were given more than enough chances. An alliance is responsible for its members, if it cannot control them then it will have to deal with the consequences. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Lerathe Vespaldia Caldari Ghosts of the Revolution The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.23 08:19:00 - [44] The oppression of the old Amarr will never return! As isk is my lord, I can assure that even the most dedicated of your vassals will suffer, CVA. If you desire to continue your reign as lords of the region than give it up now, and join the side of truth, even if you are Amarr, if you understand the evil of your people you will be spared. pew pew!
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.02.23 10:20:00 - [45] Edited by: Tharrn on 23/02/2007 10:16:48 Originally by: Pociomundo Edited by: Pociomundo on 23/02/2007 07:07:07 Perhaps you could extend that to not blanket labelling every member of an entire alliance because of the actions of few you may have witnessed / perceieved as being that of pirates. Cast out the bad apples or be labeled as pirates as you condone their actions. That's how it usually works. Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
Davlin Lotze Raging Destruction The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.23 17:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Tharrn Edited by: Tharrn on 23/02/2007 10:16:48 Originally by: Pociomundo Edited by: Pociomundo on 23/02/2007 07:07:07 Perhaps you could extend that to not blanket labelling every member of an entire alliance because of the actions of few you may have witnessed / perceieved as being that of pirates. Cast out the bad apples or be labeled as pirates as you condone their actions. That's how it usually works. That which you seek is so transparent. Your attempts to fracture through politics and manuevering of that nature are patently obvious. Those efforts have already failed you CVA. I suggest moving onward. However let me punctuate this commentary with a very positive message: It was my distinct pleasure to work with new friends and old friends from UK late last night in a joint operation to achieve a particular objective. I look forward to more joint efforts like that!
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.23 19:17:00 - [47] An amusing thought struck me... Would the Imperial Order explain their choice of a name? AFter all there is only One Empire... ----------------------------------------------
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.24 01:18:00 - [48] One Empire, One God, one Belief is a purely amarr doctrine. Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours.
Tristeria Phantasmal Collective The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.24 02:12:00 - [49] Originally by: Gaius Kador An amusing thought struck me... Would the Imperial Order explain their choice of a name? AFter all there is only One Empire... Yeh.....were not an rp alliance
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.24 02:17:00 - [50] Originally by: Rania Serlia Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. By exactly what measure, I wonder? Originally by: Tristeria Yeh.....were not an rp alliance This might be worth a read, Tristeria...
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.24 02:26:00 - [51] Edited by: Rania Serlia on 24/02/2007 02:23:13 Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Rania Serlia Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. By exactly what measure, I wonder? That was monolithic sarcasm, I personally believe in the ideals of freedom, justice, and equality instead of some decaying empire and false "god". Nothing you concern yourself with, I'm sure.
CHAOS100 Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.24 06:34:00 - [52] I could have seen this coming considering IO's history. Whip'em good CVA. --------------
Vampire Lord World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.24 11:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Rania Serlia One Empire, One God, one Belief is a purely amarr doctrine. Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. His View's do not reflect the view's or idea's of the alliance. His statements we based from his own ideas. Any further statements posted without The Order's consent will result in swift punishment.
Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.24 11:18:00 - [54] Originally by: Vampire Lord Originally by: Rania Serlia One Empire, One God, one Belief is a purely amarr doctrine. Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. His View's do not reflect the view's or idea's of the alliance. His statements we based from his own ideas. Any further statements posted without The Order's consent will result in swift punishment. If only you had taken such a stance when your men began pirating and working with disreputable individuals.
Vampire Lord World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.24 22:21:00 - [55] Originally by: Eveliddia Originally by: Vampire Lord Originally by: Rania Serlia One Empire, One God, one Belief is a purely amarr doctrine. Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. His View's do not reflect the view's or idea's of the alliance. His statements we based from his own ideas. Any further statements posted without The Order's consent will result in swift punishment. If only you had taken such a stance when your men began pirating and working with disreputable individuals. It's very simple. I was away. The person that stood in my place supported what was going on. I tried to work things out once I returned but your leaders were not willing to do so. IO has defended this damned space for the last 8+ months. Fought against all forms of pirates. We control this area and will protect it how we see fit. If you attack our space and have assets we will attack them until a deal is worked out. If we lose this area who cares. Well just wage an endless war on our former attackers. Our alliance is primarily PvP'er that needs something to do. Without a home to protect all we will have is vengeance. Endless vengeance.
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.24 23:39:00 - [56] Originally by: Vampire Lord Originally by: Eveliddia Originally by: Vampire Lord Originally by: Rania Serlia One Empire, One God, one Belief is a purely amarr doctrine. Clearly our empire and god are greater than yours. His View's do not reflect the view's or idea's of the alliance. His statements we based from his own ideas. Any further statements posted without The Order's consent will result in swift punishment. If only you had taken such a stance when your men began pirating and working with disreputable individuals. It's very simple. I was away. The person that stood in my place supported what was going on. I tried to work things out once I returned but your leaders were not willing to do so. IO has defended this damned space for the last 8+ months. Fought against all forms of pirates. We control this area and will protect it how we see fit. Questions - 1)If you do not support what was going on, what have you done about it? (besides enforcing a NBSI policy and recruiting a known mothership pirate) 2) How do you see yourself as different to the "pirates" as you both operate NBSI? 3) Do you just consider anything not blue a pirate? ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.02.25 02:38:00 - [57] How does CVA define the term "pirate"?
Aequitas Harbinger	Posted - 2007.02.25 05:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Reash Questions - 1)If you do not support what was going on, what have you done about it? (besides enforcing a NBSI policy and recruiting a known mothership pirate) 2) How do you see yourself as different to the "pirates" as you both operate NBSI? 3) Do you just consider anything not blue a pirate? I had answered these questions but realized it was wasted. We all know events transpired because we are friends of Ushra'Khan. Calling us pirates is an attempt to validate yourselves to the galaxy. If you have a real desire to speak on the subject, a private conversation is an option. IO Forever, Aequitas Harbinger Messenger of Justice
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.25 10:17:00 - [59] Edited by: Reash on 25/02/2007 10:19:41 Originally by: Rania Serlia How does CVA define the term "pirate"? A pirate is one who attacks neutral shipping unprovoked. Originally by: Aequitas Harbinger I had answered these questions but realized it was wasted. We all know events transpired because we are friends of Ushra'Khan. Calling us pirates is an attempt to validate yourselves to the galaxy. If you have a real desire to speak on the subject, a private conversation is an option. They were simple questions. It is true, allying with terrorists to attack the CVA was also a factor in our decision to go to war, that, combined with piracy. Keep in mind many other entities that live around Ushra'khan space have been left untouched by the CVA, while we condem the support of terrorists we do realise why some may wish to avoid our war. We have no reason to validate ourselves, you shot us, we are shooting back. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.02.25 10:58:00 - [60] Given a CVA fleet attacked a neutral POS in unoccupied space near NOS territory then they have no grounds for taking the higher moral ground when it comes to piracy.

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