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Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.12 15:22:00 - [181] Pociomundo, you remind me of another blowhard who is only able to yip from the sideline. When you are able to do something more substantial than waste oxygen, please come see us. If this is just a cry for more attention, try not to miss us to much, pirates. The end is near.
Drakus Minmatar all professions	Posted - 2007.03.13 04:29:00 - [182] I never thought i'd find myself saying this, but Good luck CVA. I say this because there are IO members that just make me sick. As many of you that watch this forum know, UK and friends are fighting CVA and friends in a largescale operation right now. THis is fight to the death. And what do i see in Eggelend (or however its spelt)? 5 or 6 IO members activly pirating. They have a major ally in need, and instead of going and helping, these idiots are pirating. Or "we're just operating our NBSI policy outside of our space, it's called Yartring" I wish that UK would just let CVA run these guys outta provi, or atleast put pressure on them to get the pirate members out of there corps. Its disgusting to see. So good luck CVA, kill'em all.
Green Halo World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.13 06:19:00 - [183] Originally by: Drakus I never thought i'd find myself saying this, but Good luck CVA. I say this because there are IO members that just make me sick. As many of you that watch this forum know, UK and friends are fighting CVA and friends in a largescale operation right now. THis is fight to the death. And what do i see in Eggelend (or however its spelt)? 5 or 6 IO members activly pirating. They have a major ally in need, and instead of going and helping, these idiots are pirating. Or "we're just operating our NBSI policy outside of our space, it's called Yartring" I wish that UK would just let CVA run these guys outta provi, or atleast put pressure on them to get the pirate members out of there corps. Its disgusting to see. So good luck CVA, kill'em all. Do you even know half of the history of IO and UK? We have always been allies and helped each other in times of need. The Imperial Order has other wars to be worried about as well as the one against CVA. So please, think before you speak or at least try to get all your facts straight beforehand.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 07:40:00 - [184] Originally by: Green Halo Do you even know half of the history of IO and UK? Oh, this is delicious, really. Your lack of knowledge of whom you're asking this question speaks volumes as to how brief that history really is.
kincajou niten Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 08:28:00 - [185] Edited by: kincajou niten on 13/03/2007 08:27:18 Edited by: kincajou niten on 13/03/2007 08:26:34 Originally by: Drakus As many of you that watch this forum know, UK and friends are fighting CVA and friends in a largescale operation right now. THis is fight to the death. And what do i see in Eggelend (or however its spelt)? 5 or 6 IO members activly pirating. This is indeed interesting and shows how much IO is there to help. On aside note - can Ushra'Khan leadership comment on oh-so-many allegations regarding IO being pirate alliance and Ushra'Khan being anti-pirates and both working together? Also, accepting Skywalker, a person with more than 2 years of pirating history, into the ranks of so-called anti-pirate alliance does not help at all. ((sigh))
Lowanaera Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.03.13 08:33:00 - [186] I'm fairly certain Ushra'Khan abandoned all pretense at being against piracy when they invited Chaos Incarnate down to their space.
Thomas Maleficus Caldari all professions	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:05:00 - [187] Quote: I never thought i'd find myself saying this, but Good luck CVA. I say this because there are IO members that just make me sick. As many of you that watch this forum know, UK and friends are fighting CVA and friends in a largescale operation right now. THis is fight to the death. And what do i see in Eggelend (or however its spelt)? 5 or 6 IO members activly pirating. They have a major ally in need, and instead of going and helping, these idiots are pirating. Or "we're just operating our NBSI policy outside of our space, it's called Yartring" I wish that UK would just let CVA run these guys outta provi, or atleast put pressure on them to get the pirate members out of there corps. Its disgusting to see. So good luck CVA, kill'em all. Unfortunately, this is true. A misstep indeed. IO may not realize it, but Drakus has made a statement that takes a lot of courage to make. I for one know he did not come to this decision lightly.
Drakus Minmatar all professions	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:24:00 - [188] Green, it would not matter if you had as many wars going on as the privateer alliance. Your members were not hunting other war targets, they were attacking people at random. If they had been hunting war targets i wouldn't have even noticed them. The only reason i even SAW them was the fact that i jumped into system and saw the red skulls next to there names in the local channel. I though "oh crap, pirates, wonder what gate they are camping this time" as i know that the area is a haven for pirates. So i checked the name of the guys, to see what corp it was or if it was pirate colitiliton, and much to my surprise and dismay it was IO members. So i asked them what they were doing in local, they responded with what i had in quotes. If you would like i could send you the chatlog of the local discussions. And my dear, you really need to check into people before you throw accusations at them. I was with the Ushra'Khan before there was an alliance. I put in millions of my own isk into the creation of there first outpost. I was there when they first settled in Provi, hell, the first tower that Fu2 erected was purchased solely by myself. I was with them when we used to fight PIE in empire all the time, i remember the times of the golden fleet. I was with them way before you even got your pod license. So don't you dare insinuate that i don't know the history of IO and UK.
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:41:00 - [189] I have to speak up in Skywalker's defence here. The only reason I was even in QR yesterday for you to shoot was that Skywalker jumped a pirate trying to camp a gate while I was shipping equipment down. -Eva- Re-Awakened Technologies Inc is recruiting - join channel RTI-IC for detail
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:02:00 - [190] While capsuleers who pay close attention to Galnet may know I have no love for the Amarrians, my corportation and alliance are new neighbors of CVA in Providence. So far I may say I'm humbly surprised and pleased at how the Amarrians in the area conduct themselves on a personal level, all Imperial politics aside. I dare say I may come to find myself liking an Amarrian or two before our residency in the region is over and sometime down the road we move on, if we move on. I will do my part as a Providence resident as will Dead Eagle and the North Star Confederation in aiding our new friends the CVA in defense of the region and their interests. See you in the pipe. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Green Halo World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:40:00 - [191] Originally by: Drakus And my dear, you really need to check into people before you throw accusations at them. I was with the Ushra'Khan before there was an alliance. I put in millions of my own isk into the creation of there first outpost. I was there when they first settled in Provi, hell, the first tower that Fu2 erected was purchased solely by myself. I was with them when we used to fight PIE in empire all the time, i remember the times of the golden fleet. I was with them way before you even got your pod license. So don't you dare insinuate that i don't know the history of IO and UK. My apologies, I should have known better than to throw such words. It was wrong of me. But honestly, you act as if IO is not even helping in this entire event. Many IO pilots have lost ships helping UK in their defense, including myself.
GeneralMartok Phillips Transdimensionals Inc The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.13 23:41:00 - [192] drakus I'll let you know when I take orders from you, and my superiors will let ME know when I have not followed orders, if I felt the need to justify why we weren't in the op, I would, if you don't like what my brethren do in our spare time (while unable to join said "op") it is your problem to take up with IO leadership, try not have a tantrum when you are ignorant of the situation Hab SoSlI' Quch!
gankmaster 5000	Posted - 2007.03.13 23:46:00 - [193] There was not an op going on in QR when we were in Egg, so our little PvP exercise for newer players in Egg wasn't detracting from the war effort in any way. In fact it will help it because we were training 2 players in how to PvP. It was in the very early hours of the morning EU time, so there was no activity in QR. Several of the people in Egg "pirating" as you call it have been in QR fighting as well. Don't act all insulted when people don't know who you are Drakus when you didn't even bother to state who you were, some of us are still learning who is who around Providence. No injury was intended.
Drakus Minmatar all professions	Posted - 2007.03.14 05:40:00 - [194] I have said all that i needed to say. IO have pirates in there midst, plain and simple. My own personal belief is that CVA and friends are going for UK and friends because of you guys. I know CVA don't like you at all (pretty easy to see based on the 8 or 9 pages this topic has generated), and the postings about UK harbouring pirates is something that has seemed to surface recently. I may be totally off base, and if someone from CVA says that i am, i will retract this statement, but in my own personal opinion CVA is after UK for helping IO. If UK stopped supporting CVA they would move on, And i think that would be a smart move. IO tarnishes UK with every neutral kill they make. I do believe there are some good people in IO, Green being one of them. Shes seemed to be an very good person from what i have interacted with her, but there are many unsavory characters in that allaince... I don't know. Perhaps I should have said nothing at all, but to me IO are pirates, and should be treated as such, until the time comes that they either A) kick the pirating members from the allaince or b) Inform all there members that they don't want pirates, and kick offenders if they pirate agian. Thats just my two cents, and i won't be posting any farther unless there are personal attacks agianst me, so rest assured, i will be watching.
Kade Jeekin Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.14 09:09:00 - [195] Edited by: Kade Jeekin on 14/03/2007 09:09:37 Edited by: Kade Jeekin on 14/03/2007 09:05:56 Originally by: Redpants ...I have no love for the Amarrians...all Imperial politics aside...aiding our new friends the CVA in ... their interests. Redpants, wake up. In the one hand they dangle pretty baubles for you, with the other they enslave your children, for the children's "own good". --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity ---------------------------------------
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.03.14 10:03:00 - [196] Pretty baubles? Don't lecture me Minmatar. I don't agree with much that goes on in this cold galaxy but I know one thing's for damn sure. There's a time and a place for everything. The time is now, the place is Providence. For me, my corp who pays me and the alliance, it's all about the pipe. We will lock it down from hostile cowards and pirates in due time. Enemies of CVA fall under that umbrella. If the side effect from that is the greater security of the Amarrian Empire and CVA then so be it. The shipping lanes are open so long as we're on patrol. They're not enslaving my children, you might want to check on yours. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.14 10:20:00 - [197] Scagga applauds the enlightenment demonstrated by the Gallente Delictum 23216 Official forums
Laerise	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:12:00 - [198] I salute you, CVA, as I do salute my loyalist brothers and sisters for our achievement today.
Kabajashi San Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:04:00 - [199] I have to step in here for IO a bit. This a personal statement only based on my rather small experience but I'd like to set a few things straight. In the Battle at Karishals Defiance I flew wing to wing to IO pilots as well as to pilots from many other alliances. I appreciate their help very much as it was much needed and given. This may not be a general statement on all IO pilots as I only know a few of them. There may be pirates among them, too. But that doesn't classify all IO pilotes as pirates. They have a different view on some things and a common on others. They have the right to that and I enjoyed fighting with them. Take a man for his actions not for the alliance he is in. There might even be sane Amarr pilots. Although that is pure speculation of course.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 21:10:00 - [200] Originally by: Kabajashi San Take a man for his actions not for the alliance he is in. I'm afraid that's not how foreign policy works. So long as Imperial Order employs pirates, they are an affront to the CVA's goals in Providence. So long as they operate "NBSI" they are an obstacle to CVA's goals in Providence. The current state of things is unacceptable, has been unacceptable for some time with no real resolution, and so there is war.
Kessian Armus	Posted - 2007.03.16 07:13:00 - [201] Speaking of NBSI..... This is a bit of an excerpt from an encounter in the Hati system, with a few people from the IAC. Kessian Armus > it I was red, then you woulnt'd have been CONDORD'ed. Kessian Armus > because then I would be a legal target. Kessian Armus > nice try. Cyrus Ageis > you were RED cause of your sec status Cyrus Ageis > not blinky red Kessian Armus > my sec status is well above -5.0 Cyrus Ageis > like i said, 0.0 syndrome Luthor Harkon > Not Blue Shoot it Luthor Harkon > thems the laws in 0.0 Why oh why haven't the protectors of the area come and declared war on the IAC? The answer is very simple. The CVA alliance wishes to control the entire area. They take whatever justification that can be found to do so. Like so many things, principles are willingly sacrificed on the altar of naked ambition. Mr. Garreck, up until now, you have at least been consistent in your arguements on why this war is going on. I hope you will continue to do so, and immediately work in your alliance to declare war on the IAC. But I somehow doubt this will happen.
PCaBoo Newbies On Xstacy The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.16 07:39:00 - [202] Originally by: Kessian Armus Speaking of NBSI..... This is a bit of an excerpt from an encounter in the Hati system, with a few people from the IAC. Kessian Armus > it I was red, then you woulnt'd have been CONDORD'ed. Kessian Armus > because then I would be a legal target. Kessian Armus > nice try. Cyrus Ageis > you were RED cause of your sec status Cyrus Ageis > not blinky red Kessian Armus > my sec status is well above -5.0 Cyrus Ageis > like i said, 0.0 syndrome Luthor Harkon > Not Blue Shoot it Luthor Harkon > thems the laws in 0.0 Why oh why haven't the protectors of the area come and declared war on the IAC? The answer is very simple. The CVA alliance wishes to control the entire area. They take whatever justification that can be found to do so. Like so many things, principles are willingly sacrificed on the altar of naked ambition. Mr. Garreck, up until now, you have at least been consistent in your arguements on why this war is going on. I hope you will continue to do so, and immediately work in your alliance to declare war on the IAC. But I somehow doubt this will happen. surely you do not expect common sense to prevail when CVA's agenda is in question. ________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people!
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 08:30:00 - [203] Edited by: Hardin on 16/03/2007 08:40:50 We will raise the matter with IAC. However, I for one am puzzled over the context of the conversation above in the 0.8 system of Hati and the details behind it need to be researched. But do not seek to escape examination of your own sins by pointing the finger at others. The fact is that NBSI in Amarrian or Ammatar Empire space is nothing more than piracy and there is no excuse for it from a supposedely law abiding alliance. The evidence against you comes not only from your own killboards but even Minmatar loyalists (hostile to the CVA) condemn you. You cannot stick you head in the sand over this issue. Until your leadership asserts a firm grip over your pilots then the CVA and allies will continue to work to your eradication and you are well aware of our capabilities in that direction now. If Imperial Order take the following steps then you shall be spared: - Cease all piratical activities (NBSI) in low-sec Empire space and the key transit system of KBP. - Cease your involvement in the Amarr vs terrorist war. We are not asking you to turncoat on Ushra'khan or to aid us against them. We are simply asking for you to remove yourself from the conflict. Ushra'khan are responsible for the deaths of countless innocent Amarrian men women and children and your involvement assoiciates you with their terroristic sins. We have already forced at least three piratical alliances to leave Providence and low sec Amarrian space (two susequently disbanded due to the pressure we put upon them) and it will soon be your turn. If you thought our patrols in the Dital area which kept you docked in Choonka were a pain, just wait till we bring it to the next level. You have had a reprieve over the past week while we have had larger issues to deal with but we haven't forgotten you - rest assured of that. Now - before I leave with those cold words let me add some 'sugar'. We are aware that Imperial Order (despite their own piratical tendencies) have had a 'generally' positive effect in keeping northern Providence clear of other piratical bands such as W1N, Coalition of Carebear Killers etc. Indeed, it has been noticeable that other 'bad' types have been showing an increased presence in the area ever since CVA initiated its war against you and crippled your offensive/defensive capabilities. This development is not something we welcome. If Imperial Order were to accept the conditions laid out above and make a serious effort to keep their space free for neutral trade we (as in the CVA) would even be happy to WORK WITH YOU if you face any serious piratical challenges/invasions. We would even be prepared (although we disagree with the entire concept) to allow you to keep NBSI in your pocket off KBP (not a Providence thoroughfare) if you work with us to keep the piratical menace under control. Your public anti-pirate statements are something we in the CVA support. If those words were actually backed up in space then the CVA would have no hesitation to work with you to keep Providence safe for law-abiding business. Consider my suggestions and do not automatically flame them. I would be interested in having a considered leadership response. Your time in Providence is running out. However that destiny can be avoided if you choose the right path! Think on this seriously! ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Kessian Armus	Posted - 2007.03.16 18:28:00 - [204] Oh, the circumstances in a 0.8 security system need not be researched. I'll tell you. IAC had destroyed a battleship belonging to a brother corpmate a few hours previous in KBP. I was therefore disrupting their mining operations in Hati. If it was unprovoked, then what I did would be considered ore stealing, but under the cirumstances, I feel completely at ease doing so. They attempted to retaliate, but the police forces of CONDORD annihilated the attackers. And thats when they condesendingly informed us of "NBSI is how it is in 0.0" Just so you know the circumstances.
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 18:36:00 - [205] Originally by: Kessian Armus Oh, the circumstances in a 0.8 security system need not be researched. I'll tell you. IAC had destroyed a battleship belonging to a brother corpmate a few hours previous in KBP. I was therefore disrupting their mining operations in Hati. If it was unprovoked, then what I did would be considered ore stealing, but under the cirumstances, I feel completely at ease doing so. They attempted to retaliate, but the police forces of CONDORD annihilated the attackers. And thats when they condesendingly informed us of "NBSI is how it is in 0.0" Just so you know the circumstances. Quote: Cyrus Ageis > you were RED cause of your sec status Likely he meant standing and confused the terms, i am sure IAC will be contacted to confirm details however shooting a member of imperial order would hardly be a crime, considering yopu have already been proved to protect pirates within your alliance. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 19:03:00 - [206] I could be wrong as you are not very forthcoming with details or event sequence. Feel free to provide an accurate record. So you lost a ship in a place where you practice NBSI. You then resorted to piracy and theft to get revenge and failed. Now you want us to fight IAC because you are lousy pirates? Change your ways. Change your focus. We will speak with IAC, but this is not about IAC, this is about IO pirating in Providence and other areas.
Kessian Armus	Posted - 2007.03.16 20:17:00 - [207] Not at all. I lost nothing. He lost a Drake to the police forces. His excuse for violating the law was apparently he was trained so well in "NBSI" that he fired on a negatively rated person without thinking.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 20:26:00 - [208] It sounds like a non issue. Someone foolish enough to engage in NBSI in high security areas will lose their ship. This hardly excuses you from piracy and theft now does it?
Kessian Armus	Posted - 2007.03.16 20:32:00 - [209] Pezzle, you miss the point. The point is, one of your alliance's supposed reasons for declaring war on IO is the fact that we practice NBSI. Yet IAC, at least a de facto ally, also practices NBSI. All I'm pointing out is that despite your declarations of your ideals and intentions, you are simply assaulting your neighbors because you want what they have, plain and simple. If you want agression for the sake of agression, the least you can do is not try to cloak it in a shabby veil of "law and order" On a side note, I have to congratulate you on a professional basis. Your assault on the UK station in QR was quite well done, and has in fact confirmed many of my theories on system assault.
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 21:03:00 - [210] Originally by: Kessian Armus Not at all. I lost nothing. He lost a Drake to the police forces. His excuse for violating the law was apparently he was trained so well in "NBSI" that he fired on a negatively rated person without thinking. Firing on a 'negativly rated person' is not an example of NBSI but one of NRDS. Well done! ---- It's great being Amarr, ain't it?

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