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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 17/12/2003 04:46:19 Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 17/12/2003 04:45:48 Ok today thought would go to belt with 2 other bs.. what harm can a team of 3 setup for ncp come to.. well
1 Apoc lost by me
common guys be honest what you lost tonight
15 cruisers plus something else i didnt even see properly<--ncp
STAN
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Seraph Warbird
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:07:00 -
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I took an Executioner out to see all the new rats. A Serpentis tech 2 Thorax destroyed my poor frigate from 50k away which should not of happened considering Serps should only use blasters. Everyone around me is losing BSes.
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Muad' Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:20:00 -
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Okay okay, i admit it...
Thought the NPC's would be a lil easier...i guess not.:(
Lost my geddon to about 10 thorax's...(85k's)
NOAH!
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Skelator
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:20:00 -
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Quote: I took an Executioner out to see all the new rats. A Serpentis tech 2 Thorax destroyed my poor frigate from 50k away which should not of happened considering Serps should only use blasters. Everyone around me is losing BSes.
Looks like the days of EVERYONE having a "UBAR" Bship are coming to a end and game balance is finally taking off. Look for ship prices of All classes to go back to their suggested pricing.
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Azhu
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:30:00 -
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where are the npc pirats ??? not seen a single in a 0.4 system ..huh??
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:34:00 -
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Dang, looks like what weve been asking for, some real challenge in the game. Remember that we will have the tech 2 gear as well eventually. So hope that helps with the npcs. They are pretty tough now .
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:39:00 -
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lol me and corp mate took out like 8 thorax's i took some armor and lost few drones...
then we looked through cans didnt even get to finish and like 20 of them spawned we just warped out LOl and the spawned 20km away so ya its very lame IMO
it does suck i see ppl talking on local and losing ships etc... hehe 
oh and best or in these area's is like what dark ore and jasp??? LOL with 20 thorax garding it... ok GG CCP
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FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:44:00 -
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Where are you guy's finding these bad boy's serusly and what are they droping
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:47:00 -
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Quote: Where are you guy's finding these bad boy's serusly and what are they droping
droping? you cant even get to the cans until 20 more come
its on 0.0 sec were else? with ores of dark ore and hmm jasp being best
i bet ships will start to cost 200-500mill?
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Muad' Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:49:00 -
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Yeah, they are WAY to mean
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Riddari
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:49:00 -
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Quote: Where are you guy's finding these bad boy's serusly and what are they droping
In 0.0 space and they are dropping same stuff as before.
I was in former JK-FIX, now Queirois or something like that. 10 NPC per belt and rocketmania.
Now I'm in Empire space to get some new crystals since my Gamma's went from 50km to 30km! I took a look at a few NPC spots in empire space and it looks like they all moved down to low sec!
Not a single NPC at stargates or abandoned stations now?
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FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:53:00 -
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Gee got to get groub of 5 to take out thouse Rats. It will be then hard for corps to mine in 0,0 sec elt's Say good bye to mega guy's 
Has anyone hit a bs npc
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 04:58:00 -
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Quote: Gee got to get groub of 5 to take out thouse Rats. It will be then hard for corps to mine in 0,0 sec elt's Say good bye to mega guy's 
Has anyone hit a bs npc
good by to mega corps?
maybe there not so mega but ya it does hurt even the mega corps...
you have to say good buy to all the mid/small c orps and how ever player base that is...
because no way in hell they can manage something like this... plus they need all these refine skills etc to get back up to get even the value of there ore as before...
oh and travel has been nerfed... now do the math
i just think they went over board... and even if they fix the NPC's etc so many ppl have lost there ships
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FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:01:00 -
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Well i meant goodbye megacite the mineral 
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FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:05:00 -
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What i thing ccp is doi'ng is to level out some corps with this new patch it's like in Fountain you can't go there with out a pass FA will be weak when they start lossing all there Bs in npc hunting.
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Stue
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:05:00 -
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Are they shooting mainly missiles or projectiles/lasers too from far distance (about 30km++)?
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:06:00 -
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Now the game is like it was supposed to be, you should never have been alone hunting or mining in 0.0
Peaple should be happy since this will bring Corps closer togather now. Spawn of the Devil
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:33:00 -
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Quote: Now the game is like it was supposed to be, you should never have been alone hunting or mining in 0.0
Peaple should be happy since this will bring Corps closer togather now.
alone? we are talking about ppl who go in 3 or 4 BS's and get owned by 20 thoraxs
btw you guys should have tested things on chaos... thorax have hybrid and missiles.. they also use mwd/ab and web you
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Adliger Krieger
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:35:00 -
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I took out 2 1,000,000 (yes, 1 mil) bounty rats. I have to fire Torps nonstop and then run from his 8 buddies. Can't even THINK about getting cargo container.
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:35:00 -
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So let me see if I get this right.
I am docked at a 0.0 station right now (Yet I am at work) So if I luanch and go to a roid field, I will die? So therefore I should join a HUGE corp and pray like made that they have players online during my peak time (Australia) so that we can get a group together just so I can shoot things.
CCP get ****** on this one. I dont have time to be arranging a group so I can shoot things for no bonus to loot cause tech 2 is better.
Unless some one can prove/change my way of thinking. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Kasha
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:37:00 -
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no more standing far out at 50km and blowing up pirates they get within range and be right on top of you
You mean you liked it better when you could just snipe npc's from 50k away all day and they would just sit there like some retarded ducks?
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Deathsoul
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:39:00 -
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Lost a scorp after killin a spavn of 3 ravens, 2 scorps and 12 friggs.
We killed them all and then new spavned 2 km away from us, same sise.
I did newer load them to sky before i was dead with 4 hardness on and ower 7 shield and died in 6 sek.
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:39:00 -
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Well, we took it seriously.... take a gang of 10 BS's out to hunt, going fairly well, when 25+ NPC's drop on us (and I mean on us).
Multiple Ravens and Scorps, plus 15 or so frigates and cruisers..... not amusing..... we lost 3 BS's.
Looks like things will get interesting to say the least. YOu can't mine in 0.0 without a fleet in support.... (not a joke). Prices will be going up methinks.
No *****ing, we were told to be careful and we thought we were.... we were wrong.
Look out everyone... the universe just got teeth and a cast iron pair of balls!!!!!
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 17/12/2003 05:47:22 Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 17/12/2003 05:42:26 Guess we should all become pirates. It's the only way of making a living that didn't just become pretty much impossible.
It isn't that NPC hunting is difficult. I was totally looking forward to hunting BS rats and an actual challenge.
This is ridiculous though. An entire fleet of 10 BS can't kill a spawn long enough to assure 5 minutes of a mining op. It just doesn't make sense.
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Trianon Starstealer
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:41:00 -
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Quote: So let me see if I get this right.
I am docked at a 0.0 station right now (Yet I am at work) So if I luanch and go to a roid field, I will die? So therefore I should join a HUGE corp and pray like made that they have players online during my peak time (Australia) so that we can get a group together just so I can shoot things.
CCP get ****** on this one. I dont have time to be arranging a group so I can shoot things for no bonus to loot cause tech 2 is better.
Unless some one can prove/change my way of thinking.
I think u covered all the salient details quite nicely.......
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:45:00 -
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the problem with this is... ok ccp might have screwed up.. but really who asked them to spawn 15-20+ pirates?
i understand you cant solo but now you need a fleet to kill npc's and forget mining as there is no way... your miners would DIE trying to mine and a hauler? well i dont want to think what would happen if an indy ended up in the middle of 25+ npc's
the problem is so many ppl lost there ships, and no its not like they went solo they went in groups...
ccp changes this we hope but ppl still lost there BS's
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:48:00 -
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Obviously, CCP is trying to cull as many BS from the game as possible. Nerf the NPC rats in a couple weeks...then you get high ship demand to go with a better supply of megacyte.
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FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:52:00 -
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I'm packed with Warp stab so i don't lose my precius apoc the good thing is about warp stap is that they are low slot use them peeps if you are entering 0,0 sec places.
And alway's have some system on destination and hit autopilot if npc warp to close
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Altaka Hiltora
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:53:00 -
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FANTASTIC!! I love this game now, the rats are so tough you really have to use your brain, configure your ship accordingly and go in big teams to defend yourself. Initially, many people will loose their ships which should provide some calm in the current wars, however, soon after we'll start to see more PVP'ing as some people may not choose to venture out into those danger NPC areas!!
Tech II items will provide a better advantage for fighting NPC's, remember, you are fighting them with Tech I stuff so you are bound to get a spanking :P
Well Done CCP (yes, I am really happy this time!) "You have to sometimes make sacrifices for the greater good and not be manipulated by those who have no understanding - brother" |

FUZZ79
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Posted - 2003.12.17 05:54:00 -
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I bet they are doing this so peeps lose the bs and then they start working for a new one to keep us on our if we get boerd of the game ....
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