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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:50:00 -
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Your still not figuring it out, are you.
If an NPC is equal to a player, what player corp can keep an infinitely sustained 15 ship cruiser/bs presence in every belt of every system in its designated 0.0 space?
Ill just go ahead and say it. You idiot.
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:54:00 -
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So an NPC should be equal to a player then?
From what I read they are far uber a normal player. No cap drain, no reload, hilarious missile fire rate and respawning of strong fleets in few minutes only. Oh, and add shield recharge rate unseen with 'normal' setups. Hmmm.... I firmly belive that it will be fixed in the next week...
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SS Vegito
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Posted - 2003.12.17 09:58:00 -
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Quote:
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So an NPC should be equal to a player then?
From what I read they are far uber a normal player. No cap drain, no reload, hilarious missile fire rate and respawning of strong fleets in few minutes only. Oh, and add shield recharge rate unseen with 'normal' setups. Hmmm.... I firmly belive that it will be fixed in the next week...
Yes your right they need to get a little stronger then theyll be perfect.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:03:00 -
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Your still not figuring it out, are you.
If an NPC is equal to a player, what player corp can keep an infinitely sustained 15 ship cruiser/bs presence in every belt of every system in its designated 0.0 space?
Ill just go ahead and say it. You idiot.
15 ships is alot yeah, and that should be altered. But with all the alliances in 0.0 space, there shouldnt be a problem with organizing a team large enough to fight.
These are 15 cruisers/battleships combo.
Thing is:
Can you jam them?
It should be possible...
You should more rely on EW now, and more tactics. Maybe use frigates with ecm's to break locks.
Remember you got an advantage: You know what kind of npc you will fight: so you can adapt ecm to that.
Teamwork will be essential and i will love it. Setting up a dominix that will recharge shields, frigates that warp in later to break the locks... great! 
Now i need to find me a new corp.. 
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Jettero Heller
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:05:00 -
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I managed to squeeze a quick 20 minutes in this morning before heading to work. Undocked, went to look around in the belts and eventually found a few NPC to play with.
"Castor" patch?! "Castor oil" would have been a better name considering the effect it had on my bowels. Missiles everywhere!
Fantastic, this is more like how it should be, there's no good reason for me, on my own, in a rifter to be able to take on a group of pirates and win with ease 
I look forward to getting back online tonight and having the chance to have a proper explore, and to move my operations to somewhere a little safer!!
Great job CCP
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 17/12/2003 10:16:03
Edited by: JaiMaster on 17/12/2003 10:11:21
another refugee already heading for empire :) though loving it, apparantly...
Anyway, my point being if killing NPCs is as hard as / harder than killing other players, and the spawns remain consistant with whats been seen the last 8 hours, this game is going to hell in a handbasket.
No doubt CCP will balance this up a little in the upcoming days. That raises the ugly question of do people who lost ships get compo, and do people who managed to play smaller spawns in low sec empire space and pocket a power of bounties be docked their earnings?
Can open, worms, everywhere
nb, just to put my rabid anti-npc attitude into perspective, as a pure PVP player transferring to eve from another MMORPG my first comment on eve was "too many NPCs".
This is too many NPCs, to the power of lots.
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Taconite
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:10:00 -
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It is just the first day, give it time to sort itself out. Personally, I'm happy that life is now harder. 
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Acix on 17/12/2003 10:18:20
This is for all those that actually went to a belt tonight in 0.0 land, that had an NPC battleship in it and engaged it. Doesn't matter if you lost your ship or not, but at least you have an idea of what most on this thread are talking about.
My corpmate and I were just talking about all the lost battleships tonight and the numbers that will follow after downtime. I am sort of ok with my loss of a scorp. I took a chance, flipped the coin and I lost. The big question that we had was.
If CCP gets enough people ranting and raving mad about this patch will they:
1) roll back to before the patch (roll back the database for what you owned before patch) so everyone is happy again and slide some fixes in for the insane NPC's.
2) let it go and just deal with the yelling a screaming for a bit while they iron out the insane NPC's.
3) THE BIG ONE, not change a damn thing.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 17/12/2003 08:31:08
Ferocious...where are you farming?
And incidentally, I don't see a lot of people crying on this thread...just stating things the way they are. And, by the way, come to Venal and farm in Y-4CFK. Don't buy insurance beforehand. I dare you.
Oh, and wherever you're mining, please explain how you are configured and how you are beating these new NPCs. We are all curious to know...perhaps your are teh L33T NPC farmer that we all wish we were. Or perhaps you're full of ****.
Oh no the nva guy cant farm...maybe you should ask tank since his pirate buds seem to farm your alliance all the time...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLMFAO WTF LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:25:00 -
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who knows what ccp will do i know what im gonna do though. im gonna get an cl-5 2 ems and a thermal a worp core stab and 6 relays . 2 425 raisl and rest proto 250s and im gonna have another stab at the spawns.. oh and yes i will be trying it with 5 other bs mates cos otherwise its just suicide. 15 cruisers and some bs in the mix is not what i call a ncp spawn.. i call it an invasion.. hehehe i need some sentry guns then i can do it
STAN
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Morgan Heat
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:29:00 -
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I thought this patch would include tougher NPC¦s? I would like a challange out there! Silly CCP! "What am I paying for here? Playing in the belts with kindergarden toddlers!?"
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Khar'du on 17/12/2003 10:32:06
Aah, that's it.
Deploy a few sentries at the belt and watch the rats go *poof*.
No, seriously, if i didn't have a few BS's on the market that im gonna set a 250mio price for i would be RAVING MAD AT THIS !
On the other hand, a few ppl in this thread report earning 50 mio in a very short time when succesfull at controlling the spawn... Guess its a risk v reqard thing...
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:32:00 -
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all the isk in the game wont buy a bb if no one can get mega to manufacture one 
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:34:00 -
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why does everyone one think the ideal difficulty level is:
"I want to go out alone in my BS, and come back undamaged and rich"
I'm sure they'll fix it up soon, then you can go back to long-distance solo sniping...
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Raith
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:40:00 -
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which faction's have the BS pirates at the moment? i'm not sure Angel do!
i feel like loosing my ship lol
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Gandy
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:41:00 -
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Me like doing me solo in .0 space could mine a bit zyd in me mega to cut down the price of making me ships, so this morning I thought I would take a chance and take on a few rats (few meaning 3-4) nah warped in and there was 8 of em me was dead in a matter of 10 sec's :'( and now me insurance just covers the cost of a new ship but me can't afford more insurance now :( ah well back to mining in .5-6 systemand get ready for the price war with mega and zyd :(
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Whuzz
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:50:00 -
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My maller and some very nice mods are gone aswell, since i basically was cleaning up after we had killed the 1st spawn, but then 10 mins later a 2nd spawn was there, and i had like 4 1 Mill bounty guyz throwin missles @ me, and a pile of small guyz aswell ... so ... no way to get out
Whuzz
If only through my actions, at least one persons life got better, then i'd say life was worth living
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Lucre
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:54:00 -
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I'm packed with Warp stab so i don't lose my precius apoc the good thing is about warp stap is that they are low slot use them peeps if you are entering 0,0 sec places.
Huh? Warp core stabs are mid slot, Shirley?
Question is, how many of them do we need with 20+ rats jamming?
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Tituan
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Posted - 2003.12.17 10:59:00 -
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Well I almost lost my BS in a .2 lol. Cruiser MWD in close and scrambled/webbed me. As I had Tachs and other long range wpns, there wasn't much I could do. Thankfully I had a drone bay full of heavys whom just tore the cruisers apart.
Of course this made me relize that I wasn't going out to 0.0 space by myself anytime soon. However I think its great.
Mega prices of course are going to soar and only specialized mining corps are going to be able to get to the bistot fields now but thats also good IMO. I think the lack of people mining these roids day in and day out will help em get nice and fat for the corps that have the skill to mine them.
This is a "massive multi-player" online game and should require teamwork.
I don't understand why freelancers are complaining either. Sure they can't solo 0.0 fields now, but they can make more cash now fighting in .3 and .2 than you could ever make in 0.0 pre-patch.
Thank god for a challenge finally.
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:02:00 -
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Lucre,
Warp stabilisers are now lowslot items.
It's true
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:03:00 -
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basic economics.
The price of mega, therefor, the price of all mega related items, will soar. 1M pre-castor will soon buy as much as 10m post-castor.
Thus making "more" in empire post-castor is hardly a boon.
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Novo DuPont
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:04:00 -
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WOOT!!
Final tally:
Time spent hunting Gurista Silencer MOA (the one for 1 million in bounty)
1 hour 4 minutes
ISK made in bounties:
13,000,000
Number of ships in hunting party:
ONE (yes just me)
Number of ships lost by hunting party:
ZERO (0)
I changed some of my setup and missiles now are not a big issue. I just look for the Sillencer cruiser, lock it kill it and warp out, I ain't that greedy. Watch out for the Gurista Destroyer, it is one MEAN Raven, I mean MEAN.
LOTS OF FUN!!!!!!!!!
"To succeed greatly one must sacrifice greatly"
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Fuse
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:08:00 -
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Seriously I wish this whole day could go away. It's just unbelievable that a non empire corp could have the resources to wage such a war. 12 to 50 rats in every belt!?!?!  |
JaiMaster
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:11:00 -
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value of 13m ISK, when players cannot mine bistot profitably?
yea, about nothing
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Timberdoll
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:12:00 -
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Well what can I say to you who lost ships right after the servers went up. Stupidity goes a long way. I would personally never go in a 0.0 belt with the best ships to start with, at least not when they say there are BS out there. You deserve that ;)
To all others I can say one thing. GL :) things will be sorted out, but right now I like it. I like the sense of danger when speeding around in 0.0 now
This is real 0.0 security status. Its anarchy, death and mayhem. Too bad the Ark/bist rocks are in the same system hehe :)
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Saelek
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:13:00 -
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could this be like fighting npcs in a cruiser again? ^^ finally something hard
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:15:00 -
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WOOT!!
Final tally:
Time spent hunting Gurista Silencer MOA (the one for 1 million in bounty)
1 hour 4 minutes
ISK made in bounties:
13,000,000
Number of ships in hunting party:
ONE (yes just me)
Number of ships lost by hunting party:
ZERO (0)
I changed some of my setup and missiles now are not a big issue. I just look for the Sillencer cruiser, lock it kill it and warp out, I ain't that greedy. Watch out for the Gurista Destroyer, it is one MEAN Raven, I mean MEAN.
LOTS OF FUN!!!!!!!!!
some of you ppl just dont get it...
so you are saying there is only 1 3lite style of game play and that is to stay far kill 1 npc then warp out and warp in and kill 1 and so on...
are you freaken MAD DID YOU EVER THINK FOR A SEC THAT WOW THOSE BELTS ARE FULL OF ORE,, JEE WTF IS ORE? OH YA WE NEED TO MINE IT DUMB A$$... if you cant kill all the npc's and they spawn and******any BS they wish.. HOW WILL YOU EVER GET THE Fing ORE???
nobody cares of your stupid taticts that you came up of that take forever to kill npc's there is such a think as mining and getting the ore so you could build stuff...
if there is no mega you can build anything
if there ppl who went with 10 BSÆs and came back with 6 then there is sure a problemà there is no way to create any mining ops at all in 0.0 space right now
if you get any more forces you are going to LAG YOUR SELF and EVERYONE IN THE BELT and you will just end up DIEING TO THE NPCÆs cause they donÆt CARE ABOUT LAG there not playersà
DID you ever think that maybe a hauler or 2 will have to come into the belt and take that oreà if 2 or 3 of those npcÆs decide they want to MWD and blow the **** out of your indy while you are fighting the rest of the 15-20 NPCÆs you surely cant make any profit miningà
I want to see at least 1 team that went out and mind bist successfully and brought a number of loads back.
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Wildcat
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:15:00 -
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Me and a friend usually goes out to hunt dragons in Rifters for the action :) This will be so coooooool :D Think we need to change tactics
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:16:00 -
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I would also like to add that if you havent tried some of the pirates out there, and tried to even think or imagine to do a mining ops then DONT POST because you have no clue.
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Morgan Heat
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:16:00 -
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0.0 is not a playground anymore... If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!
Over and out.
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