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RaazAguul
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:01:00 -
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Im not even in the game for a few hours, haven't even finished the tutorial. I just learned how to take stuff from wreckages. Then a high level guy comes to the training station and puts out a bunch of canisters that says "free stuff for noobs"
I take one, and he kills me. I launch again and instantly he kills me again. I did not know that there was a 15 minute waiting time or even that Id get killed for taking the "trap" at a training base?
Do the GMs acctually think this is acceptable? The guy knew I had no clue what I was doing when he set the trap at the training base. The guy also knew I had no clue about the 15 minute waiting time.
I really have no desire to play on any further either. So GMs should take note of this. Account cancelled.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:03:00 -
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Yeap, welcome to grief-online.
Can I have your stuff? wait, you didn't had any... ohh |

FromBeyond TheGrave
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:04:00 -
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There was a greek myth about some girl and this box of doom oh what was it called? *scratches his forehead*
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Caligulus
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:05:00 -
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Petition the incident. Griefing in noob systems is disgraceful. What was the character's name?
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:06:00 -
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Petition him for harassment. GM's frown heavily on people doing this in starter systems.
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Nikla Uthaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:07:00 -
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There IS a big box which appears which says 'Taking from this can will criminally flag you and it's contents owner can freely attack you' though. However yeah, there are people who bait newbies, and it is reportable in some cases. ----------------- One word,, emo,,,
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:08:00 -
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They can't frown on it too hard, not when there's a whole alliance that does this openly under the name "The Griefer's Alliance."
If petitions would do any good, I should think they'd be out of business.
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RaazAguul
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:08:00 -
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Termullius or something like that.
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: RaazAguul Then a high level guy comes to the training station and puts out a bunch of canisters that says "free stuff for noobs" I take one, and he kills me.
So you read the warning message that said "If you pick up stuff from other people's containers they will **** you up", klicked Ok and did it anyway, right?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:12:00 -
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A) Petition it. GMs don't like it, and will probably reimburse you for your loss and/or punish the griefer.
B) Take note of the big box saying "if you take from this you can be shot". Its there for a reason.
C) Nothing you lose at this early stage really matters that much. You can earn what seems like a fortune on day one in 5 minutes on day 5.
D) If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Naked pictures of Anna Kournikova? hi-ho Trojan, AWAY! Free stuff in a convenient can..........? --------
Originally by: Constantine Arcanum most problems can be solved with chloroform.
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RaazAguul
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:13:00 -
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It's a damn trap for noobs and he knew it. regardless whether or not it said dont take. to place a cargo box out there that says "free stuff for noobs" implys just that. And then to turn around and kill them for doing so is griefing. It's BS. He knew that eventually someone like me, who did not know what was going on would come along and fall for his trap.
You can rationalize his killing me any way you want to, but its still a lame ass kill.
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:15:00 -
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read the warnings learn the lesson and move on
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mechtech
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:18:00 -
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It's a better lesson to learn in a noob ship than in a ship that you payed for. I'd thank him, hehe.
Anyway, learn from mistakes and move on, it's a central theme in eve.
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FromBeyond TheGrave
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: RaazAguul It's a damn trap for noobs and he knew it. regardless whether or not it said dont take. to place a cargo box out there that says "free stuff for noobs" implys just that. And then to turn around and kill them for doing so is griefing. It's BS. He knew that eventually someone like me, who did not know what was going on would come along and fall for his trap.
You can rationalize his killing me any way you want to, but its still a lame ass kill.
Just like those big red stop signs at the intersections are just there to keep all the good stuff out of reach right?
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Ikarushka
Gallente A.O.U. Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: RaazAguul Im not even in the game for a few hours, haven't even finished the tutorial. I just learned how to take stuff from wreckages. Then a high level guy comes to the training station and puts out a bunch of canisters that says "free stuff for noobs"
I take one, and he kills me. I launch again and instantly he kills me again. I did not know that there was a 15 minute waiting time or even that Id get killed for taking the "trap" at a training base?
Do the GMs acctually think this is acceptable? The guy knew I had no clue what I was doing when he set the trap at the training base. The guy also knew I had no clue about the 15 minute waiting time.
I really have no desire to play on any further either. So GMs should take note of this. Account cancelled.
you learned the lesson during your first few hours, it takes much longer for others... No point in whining on the forum, you had a message that stated that the owner of the container will be able to attack yo. Think of it as a part of the tutorial.
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Hektor Ramirez on 27/02/2007 01:23:30
Originally by: RaazAguul to place a cargo box out there that says "free stuff for noobs" implys just that. And then to turn around and kill them for doing so is griefing.
Haha oh man, it's like a demented space version of Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner where Roadrunner eats the "free bird seed" and an anvil drops on his head and credits roll. -
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Kal Oman
Delta Desperados
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:28:00 -
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Sorry for your troubles RaazAguul...
It may seem absurd, but you are kinda lucky to have your will tested this early in the game. If you feel you can't handle this kind of setback (lame or not), than EvE will not be a game you enjoy.
If you are able to foster your anger, build your toon up and take revenge on this lamer and his corp a few months from now, you will find its your perfect game.
I wish you the best.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:28:00 -
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Quote: You can rationalize his killing me any way you want to, but its still a lame ass kill.
Your right, but its not the kill he's after. Its pleasure gained from anothers misfortune, theres a medical term for that.
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FromBeyond TheGrave
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hektor Ramirez Edited by: Hektor Ramirez on 27/02/2007 01:23:30
Originally by: RaazAguul to place a cargo box out there that says "free stuff for noobs" implys just that. And then to turn around and kill them for doing so is griefing.
Haha oh man, it's like a demented space version of Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner where Roadrunner eats the "free bird seed" and an anvil drops on his head and credits roll.

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RaazAguul
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:38:00 -
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You are right Kal. Eve is not the game for me.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.27 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: RaazAguul Im not even in the game for a few hours, haven't even finished the tutorial. I just learned how to take stuff from wreckages. Then a high level guy comes to the training station and puts out a bunch of canisters that says "free stuff for noobs"
I take one, and he kills me. I launch again and instantly he kills me again. I did not know that there was a 15 minute waiting time or even that Id get killed for taking the "trap" at a training base?
Do the GMs acctually think this is acceptable? The guy knew I had no clue what I was doing when he set the trap at the training base. The guy also knew I had no clue about the 15 minute waiting time.
I really have no desire to play on any further either. So GMs should take note of this. Account cancelled.
Darwin Laughs.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.02.27 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: RaazAguul Im not even in the game for a few hours, haven't even finished the tutorial. I just learned how to take stuff from wreckages. Then a high level guy comes to the training station and puts out a bunch of canisters that says "free stuff for noobs"
I take one, and he kills me. I launch again and instantly he kills me again. I did not know that there was a 15 minute waiting time or even that Id get killed for taking the "trap" at a training base?
Do the GMs acctually think this is acceptable? The guy knew I had no clue what I was doing when he set the trap at the training base. The guy also knew I had no clue about the 15 minute waiting time.
I really have no desire to play on any further either. So GMs should take note of this. Account cancelled.
I 'd explain that you should petition this, but if you cancelled your account, it's too late.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.27 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/02/2007 02:38:56
Originally by: Soporo
Quote: You can rationalize his killing me any way you want to, but its still a lame ass kill.
Your right, but its not the kill he's after. Its pleasure gained from anothers misfortune, theres a medical term for that.
Its not a medical term. Its called "schadenfreude", and while the victim may not like it, its the basis of a large portion of modern society.
On topic, GMs will generally ban people for griefing in starter systems. Petition it.
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Kiviar
Caldari VorthosCorp
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Posted - 2007.02.27 02:54:00 -
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It is unfortunate that you would quit over such a piddling incident. Especially when you get a warning telling you that people can kill you if you loot their containers. However you probably made the right decision. No use in continuing to play and pay for a game that makes you that angry. In Eve lots of people will want to grief, you kill you, cheat you, or steal from you. It requires a lot of street smarts to survive, which is why I like it.
Also Dark schadenfreude is perhaps the main reason I ever read these forums =P
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Arialla
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/02/2007 02:38:56
Originally by: Soporo
Quote: You can rationalize his killing me any way you want to, but its still a lame ass kill.
Your right, but its not the kill he's after. Its pleasure gained from anothers misfortune, theres a medical term for that.
Its not a medical term. Its called "schadenfreude", and while the victim may not like it, its the basis of a large portion of modern society.
I think "sadism" is a more correct term. "Schadenfreude" does not imply infliction of the misfortune. The joy you experience from someone else's misfortune could be because of relief that it did not happen to you or that it benefits you in some way.
If I am not mistaken then "sadism" is more closely associated with deriving joy from inflicting pain and misery.
"Schadenfreude" is when everyone on the forums laugh at you when you whine about a "sadist" causing you misery.
I could be completely wrong though. Just how I understand things.
Your favorite ARE* and BI&, Arialla
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Arialla I think "sadism" is a more correct term.
The inevitable armchair psychology is always the best part of these threads  -
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr Imperial Warehousing Industries
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:28:00 -
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The 'Peanut Gallery' posts are a favorite of mine too.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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The Enslaver
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:30:00 -
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Afaik this is considered griefing, so the people doing it would be in pretty serious trouble if the GM's were informed.
I mean, tbh there is nothing more it could be... nothing to gain from it... --------
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syphurous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:35:00 -
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Excuse me if I'm mistaken as it has been some months since I've run the tutorial but aren't alot of those warning messages hidden until you get past the entire thing ? Like the parts of the UI that are hidden ? ______________________________
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Arialla
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.27 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hektor Ramirez
Originally by: Arialla I think "sadism" is a more correct term.
The inevitable armchair psychology is always the best part of these threads 
Thank you. I aim to be the best part of any thread I post in, unlike others, who just troll, contributing nothing, just trying to stir up people but generally just being annoying pests.
Your favorite ARE* and BI&, Arialla
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