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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Amerame on 28/02/2007 22:16:06 As of today, 1st of March, Goonswarm stations in Scalding Pass as well as Tau Ceti Federation Stations in Wicked Creek as well as economical resources in asteroid belts are open to our allies. Anyone with a standing 5 or greater in Goonswarm or Tau Ceti Federation may trade, produce, rat and mine in those regions.
Hopefully this is just a first step toward a much larger free trade zone and the end of feudalism in Eve, and it is our wish to further develop ties and mutually beneficial trading agreement with other entities in Eve.
For any question regarding the free trade zone, feel free to contact : Remedial, Vile Rat, Blitter in Goonswarm or Frederik, Amerame, Latton CALLAN, Raul Necrobie in TCF
Each region of the free trade zone will come with a (simple) set of rules, the current rules for WC and SP are the following :
Scalding Pass 1) You cannot deploy PoS. 2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply.
Wicked Creek 1) You cannot deploy PoS without TCF's formal authorization. 2) SO-X5L is a TCF-only system.
More regions will be made available to the free trade zone members shortly.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 28/02/2007 22:13:32 What he said.
Detorid, Tenerifis, Omist and 7-K will be similarly open in a few weeks; we will announce that at the second round of FTZ talks.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:07:00 -
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IAC stations in Catch remain open to the public as IAC runs NRDS, Not Red Don't SHoot
Please feel Free to stop by. -------------------------------------------------
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:13:00 -
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Very cool, I like the idea a lot. Are there any engagement rules? If people who are friendly to you, but hostile to each other start the pew pew, it's no big deal?
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:15:00 -
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Bravo Amerame.
<za preved pizda>
Signature removed - please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:15:00 -
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rofl - - - - - - - - - -
Give this a read. |
Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:20:00 -
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Woot - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video
Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit |
c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:20:00 -
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The termina "free" and "+5" are somewhat contradictory, don¦t you think?
I mean that¦s the same friends of us could do in the time they were there.
regards
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
Life's a waste of time ... |
Waerp Oout
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Waerp Oout on 28/02/2007 22:25:55 ****
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: c0rn1 The termina "free" and "+5" are somewhat contradictory, don¦t you think?
I mean that¦s the same friends of us could do in the time they were there.
regards
"Free Trade Zone" for +5s. Put it in context and it makes perfect sense. - http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/Jameswsig.jpg WeComeInPeace Video
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Slayton Ford
Caldari Kudzu Collective
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:36:00 -
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How will pirates be dealt with inside the FTZ?
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine rofl
/signed
Ok, don't know, if you rofled for the same reason, but to me it seems like Goons and friends trying to get the undecided kids on their side by give them some sweets. ___________ Muuuhhh !!! |
Akane Miyamoto
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine rofl
/signed. Guess I gotta pay my old home a visit soon
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Slayton Ford How will pirates be dealt with inside the FTZ?
We'll defend our space. Does that mean we'll come to the rescue of anyone and everyone? No. It's 0.0, defend yourself; we're just openning belts, ratting, production and trade rights to all our friends.
As usual there will be ravening hordes of goons bumping into things all throughout Swarm space.
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: c0rn1 on 28/02/2007 22:46:09
Originally by: Kyguard
Originally by: c0rn1 The termina "free" and "+5" are somewhat contradictory, don¦t you think?
I mean that¦s the same friends of us could do in the time they were there.
regards
"Free Trade Zone" for +5s. Put it in context and it makes perfect sense.
Was it in context in the headline? No, So Limited Trade Zone would've been the most accurate and only headline.
Originally by: Plutoinum
/signed
Ok, don't know, if you rofled for the same reason, but to me it seems like Goons and friends are trying to get the undecided kids on their side by offering them some sweets.
na, actually they offer active buttkissing for them to get the +5 standing ;p x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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Swift Wind
6rasshopper Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Swift Wind on 28/02/2007 22:46:39
Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 28/02/2007 22:17:46
As of today, 1st of March, Goonswarm stations in Scalding Pass as well as Tau Ceti Federation Stations in Wicked Creek as well as economical resources in asteroid belts are open to our allies. Anyone with a standing 5 or greater in Goonswarm or Tau Ceti Federation may trade, produce, rat and mine in those regions.
Hopefully this is just a first step toward a much larger free trade zone and the end of feudalism in Eve, and it is our wish to further develop ties and mutually beneficial trading agreement with other entities in Eve.
For any question regarding the free trade zone, feel free to contact : Remedial, Vile Rat, Blitter in Goonswarm or Frederik, Amerame, Latton CALLAN, Raul Necrobie in TCF
Each region of the free trade zone will come with a (simple) set of rules, the current rules for WC and SP are the following :
Scalding Pass 1) You cannot deploy PoS. 2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply. 3) All friendlies must abide by the standings page that GoonSwarm will publish soon and not shoot other friendlies, on pain of expulsion
Wicked Creek 1) You cannot deploy PoS without TCF's formal authorization. 2) SO-X5L is a TCF-only system.
More regions will be made available to the free trade zone members shortly.
As good as that sounds, us neuts (too small of a corp to get standings, both 6HI and our sister corp asked) are still gonna be shot down? Dosen't seem like a FTZ to me, sorry guys. Unless, of course, you mean Friends Trade Zone. No diffrent than anywhere else. Still a NBSI enviorment, right?
IRT IAC, wonderful crew, it is nice to finally go somewhere where EVERYONE is not shooting at me. A true FTZ... Thanks Guys...
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maarud
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:51:00 -
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Translated: Hi, we're opening out gates to a lot of corps and alliances in eve to come and rat, mine and generally carebear in our space. So all pirate and general pvp corps are welcome to come pwn them and give us one more thing to worry about.
Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |
Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.02.28 22:57:00 -
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Mmm, a land of carebears policed by Goons?
*drools*
I mean um, I applaud this noble endeavor. Carry on then!
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LikYum
Amarr Health and Beauty Spa
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: LikYum on 28/02/2007 22:59:44 2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply. Can you claify this please, I saw an earlier document that specifically stated "If a GoonSwarm fleet member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply." Which did make some kind of sense i guess, but any old muppet seeing a good spawn/rock and wanting it every time will get old real fast imho.
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:04:00 -
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Dear people-who-are-going-on-and-on-about-free-not-being-free, you have to understand that policing of the space will be conducted primarily by the sovereign alliance. It is a guarantee that if we were running on an NRDS policy any neutral players would be free to come and go with relative immunity thus opening the possibility for providing anti-intel to hostile forces within the territories. To provide the most secure form of travel and existence within the area, along with docking rights to our outposts we must resort to standings adjustments. As we do not have a Concord-like force policing our space standings is a neccessity to protect our members, allies and ultimately anyone who desires to positively enter the regions. If you wish safe passage or to participate in the market you will simply need to contact one of our representitives.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Swift Wind
As good as that sounds, us neuts (too small of a corp to get standings, both 6HI and our sister corp asked) are still gonna be shot down? Dosen't seem like a FTZ to me, sorry guys. Unless, of course, you mean Friends Trade Zone. No diffrent than anywhere else. Still a NBSI enviorment, right?
IRT IAC, wonderful crew, it is nice to finally go somewhere where EVERYONE is not shooting at me. A true FTZ... Thanks Guys...
I suppose you're right, the better name would be a 'Friends Free Trade Zone'. So?
We operate on a NBSI policy. If you're +5 or greater, it's a Free Trade Zone with no restrictions on belt rights or ratting privileges regardless of your corporation, subject to the provisos above.
If you're neutral, you're either going to get killed or you'll be trying to kill us.
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: LikYum
2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply. Can you claify this please, I saw an earlier document that specifically stated "If a GoonSwarm fleet member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply." Which did make some kind of sense i guess, but any old muppet seeing a good spawn/rock and wanting it every time will get old real fast imho.
It was a correction of a typo. Originally the statement said "If a Goonfleet member...". Goonfleet is a corporation, Goonswarm is an alliance. The intention is to state that any member of Goonswarm has the right to ask you to leave the system/asteroid belt/whathaveyou on the grounds that they are responsible for the defense of their territories thus have the right to profit from the contents of those territories above anyone else.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: LikYum Edited by: LikYum on 28/02/2007 22:59:44 2) Right of Refusal : If a GoonSwarm member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply. Can you claify this please, I saw an earlier document that specifically stated "If a GoonSwarm fleet member asks you to leave a system, you are to comply." Which did make some kind of sense i guess, but any old muppet seeing a good spawn/rock and wanting it every time will get old real fast imho.
We changed it. The right of refusal applies to all Swarm members, not just Goonfleet. Of course, there's a huge pile of systems in SP that aren't being ratted or mined in, and in general goons won't tell you to get out just to be mean.
At first things might seem cramped, but in a week or two we'll be opening up almost half of the South (TCF + GS territory) to the FTZ.
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Whiskey Juvenile
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Whiskey Juvenile on 28/02/2007 23:16:12 Contact the individuals listed in the OP if you do not have access to the FTZ and want your corp/alliance to have access, by the way. I guess that message got lost somewhere in transmission.
edit: Also, no docking fees and low taxes.
The FTZ is a new paradigm in Eve to replace the feudal tenancies that have existed in the past. All hail the glorious coming of space libertopia.
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IlIlIlIlIlIlIl
Hos B4 Bros
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:22:00 -
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Corelum when did your opinion become relevant?
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Blitter
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:23:00 -
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As stated Goonswarm will be opening 7-K, SP, Detorid, Tenerifis, and Omist to the FTZ as soon as possible. Our guests will have unrestricted access across 5 regions.
We will grant +5 to any corp or alliance that agrees to some simple guidelines. Contact us for details.
We're done with the feudal system in general. We want to get more people out into 0.0, where the real game happens. Office slots will be available for rent. Factories are wide open. Refineries are set to 5% tax.
Think of it like the ISS project, but with a 3,000 man goon army backing it up instead of ISSN.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 28/02/2007 23:22:34
Originally by: Swift Wind Edited by: Swift Wind on 28/02/2007 23:11:23
Originally by: The Mittani
If you're neutral, you're either going to get killed or you'll be trying to kill us.
Thats a bit harsh, isn't it? You should have a bit more compassion for your ''neut'' allies..... Again, we are ONLY neut to you due to our size, no one seems to think it is worth setting standings to a small corp, even when we work with you guys. It really sucks to get shot down by allied forces all the time. /end rant
As for NRDS being ''impossible to secure'' your allies (IAC) seem to have no problem with it. :)
The Swarm has and always will operate on a NBSI policy. I'm sorry.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:30:00 -
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This is all great.. and corps such as ours will benefit greatly. Love your work, goons..
I'd just like to ask about the rules concerned with Goonswarm friends attacking other Goonswarm friends within the FTZ. There are certain alliances who prefer to keep the entire universe neutral, regardless of common enemies.
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Swift Wind
See IAC :) and WE have contacted your reps, too small to be bothered with...
Speaking from my personal viewpoint it may behove you to be patient if you so desire to participate as the Goonswarm war machine has not operated nor needed an open market in the past.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.02.28 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Static This is all great.. and corps such as ours will benefit greatly. Love your work, goons..
I'd just like to ask about the rules concerned with Goonswarm friends attacking other Goonswarm friends within the FTZ. There are certain alliances who prefer to keep the entire universe neutral, regardless of common enemies.
If you wish to use the FTZ, you must operate within our standings list while within the FTZ. If you want to maintain the 'shoot everyone' policy, you will not be able utilize our space while shooting everyone.
We understand that many of our allies like to shoot everything that moves and likely won't be joining us in the FTZ, but they're welcome to join in the carebearing if they so desire and don't shoot anyone on our standings list while enjoying our space.
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