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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:41:34 -
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Hi M8s,
With the 118.6 release, we're making some tweaks to a bunch of capital gameplay. We would love your feedback!
Carriers & Fighters
- Long Range Heavy Fighters (Ametat, Termite, Antaeus, Gungnir) bomb ability now correctly scales with squadron size.
- Warp Scramblers now stop Fighter MWDs and MJDs mid-cycle.
- Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution now has a stacking penalty with sensor boosters.
- Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution reduced to 500% (from 900%)
- Networked Sensor Array no longer gives a bonus to number of locked targets.
- Networked Sensor Array sensor strength bonuses now also apply to the Carrier's fighter squadrons.
- Fighters now have orbit ranges more appropriate to their weapons system (you can see this in Show Info)
Dreadnoughts
- Siege Mode now gives ECM Immunity
- Naglfar now has 3 turret hard-points (and an extra high slot) and has lost its role bonus of +50% damage.
- Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU
Miscellaneous
- Void Bombs now respect Energy Warfare Resistance
- Void Bombs and Lockbreaker Bombs now give more verbose messages about their effects in the combat log.
- Missiles now have the correct range when fired from large ships.
- All Capital Shield Extenders now provide 10% less shield HP.
- Bastion Module now gives ECM Immunity
There are more changes planned. We will be looking at HAW Tracking (more info here) and Light Fighter application / alpha.
As always, we welcome your feedback!
Game Designer | Team Five-0 | https://twitter.com/CCP_Larrikin
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
451
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:45:30 -
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Reserved
Game Designer | Team Five-0 | https://twitter.com/CCP_Larrikin
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NoobMan
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
259
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:51:37 -
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First
Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.
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Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
343
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:52:28 -
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noobman stinks - second |
Whitmore
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:54:45 -
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Can we finally get a svipul buff, unplayable atm. |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1513
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:55:35 -
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so what about triage? Or is ECMing the Faxes now the direction ccp wants to go |
Yadaryon Vondawn
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
116
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:57:18 -
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ECM immunity for Siege but not for Triage?
What is the reasoning behind that if I may ask? Since FAXes exist the role is now split. Meaning the one and only thing a FAX should do is rep, just like a dread should Siege. Therefor I wonder why the dreadnoughts get to shoot stuff but FAXes dont get to rep stuff |
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CCP Larrikin
C C P C C P Alliance
451
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:57:27 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:so what about triage? Or is ECMing the Faxes now the direction ccp wants to go
Yadaryon Vondawn wrote:ECM immunity for Siege but not for Triage? What is the reasoning behind that if I may ask? Since FAXes exist the role is now split. Meaning the one and only thing a FAX should do is rep, just like a dread should Siege. Therefor I wonder why the dreadnoughts get to shoot stuff but FAXes dont get to rep stuff
OP updated :)
Game Designer | Team Five-0 | https://twitter.com/CCP_Larrikin
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Yadaryon Vondawn
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
116
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Posted - 2016.06.10 10:59:20 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:so what about triage? Or is ECMing the Faxes now the direction ccp wants to go Yadaryon Vondawn wrote:ECM immunity for Siege but not for Triage? What is the reasoning behind that if I may ask? Since FAXes exist the role is now split. Meaning the one and only thing a FAX should do is rep, just like a dread should Siege. Therefor I wonder why the dreadnoughts get to shoot stuff but FAXes dont get to rep stuff OP updated :)
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Lithium Nightmare
Herrscher der Zeit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:04:21 -
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All Capital Shield Extenders now provide 10% less shield HP.
pls ccp, why you do this |
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Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
82
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:05:50 -
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Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun? |
Zomgnomnom
Royal Black Watch Highlanders White Legion.
77
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:08:40 -
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Too soon to hope for those hints at a Phoebe revist ? |
LittleMadam
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:12:55 -
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Thank you CCP for making carriers **** again! |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1513
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:13:29 -
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Grookshank wrote:Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun?
doesn't need it |
Agrakari Saraki
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
5
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:15:39 -
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The original 900% NSA scanres boost made it a nightmare to keep carriers tackled with dictors, as they just instalock you and alpha the dictor off the field. If the intention was to prevent this, I don't think that the nerf to 500% meaningfully improves this situation. The carriers can still lock dictors in 3 seconds, which isn't enough time to burn out of your bubble and escape. Add to that the immense buff to cruiser application, and even HICs have a hard time keeping a carrier tackled before help arrives.
I think that this situation is negatively impacting content generation by allowing carriers to clear their tackle without assistance, leading to less fleet fights and content generated over tackled carriers. |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions 404 Hole Not Found
1513
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:17:30 -
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Btw since capitals were just recently rebalanced and now the Nag is getting another pass which potentially changes the way it is fit completely, any kind of compensation for potential billions lost on rigs? |
Archeras Umangiar
CRY.NET Nihilists Social Club
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:18:22 -
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Grookshank wrote:Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun?
^this |
Titus Tallang
EVE University Ivy League
171
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:19:09 -
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I approve of this product or service. +1
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Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:19:47 -
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Why nerf to shield extenders? Way to early - we didn't have any big capital battles or citadel sieges. Cutting it by 10% will put shield capitals again below EHP achievable by armor versions, without increased signature.
3 x extender Chimera is 15.4 KM in signature 3 x pladed archon is 9.94 KM
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LittleMadam
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:22:31 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Why nerf to shield extenders? Way to early - we didn't have any big capital battles or citadel sieges. Cutting it by 10% will put shield capitals again below EHP achievable by armor versions, without increased signature.
3 x extender Chimera is 15.4 KM in signature 3 x pladed archon is 9.94 KM
i cant understand this aftger 10 yeahrs shield was nearly as good as armor, still **** but nopt to bad. now its just **** again, time to log off again for a few yeahrs
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Hoodie Mafia
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
65
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:26:02 -
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How do you think this will impact the Alliance Tournament? |
MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:26:49 -
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Rorqual Changes to Rorqual has been pushed back to Fall...
...2022 |
Niraia
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:35:05 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote: Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution now has a stacking penalty with sensor boosters. Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution reduced to 500% (from 900%)
Mean!
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Tavion Al
Ivy League Hall of Residence Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:36:53 -
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Agrakari Saraki wrote:The original 900% NSA scanres boost made it a nightmare to keep carriers tackled with dictors, as they just instalock you and alpha the dictor off the field. If the intention was to prevent this, I don't think that the nerf to 500% meaningfully improves this situation. The carriers can still lock dictors in 3 seconds, which isn't enough time to burn out of your bubble and escape. Add to that the immense buff to cruiser application, and even HICs have a hard time keeping a carrier tackled before help arrives.
I think that this situation is negatively impacting content generation by allowing carriers to clear their tackle without assistance, leading to less fleet fights and content generated over tackled carriers.
Reducing it from +900% to +500% was not the only nerf to carrier scan res. Read the full notes, they are now stacking penalizied with SEBOs. Makeing the total scan res about half as much as it used to be. Here is math:
Before upcoming patch, Thanatos: base*NSA*SEBO1*SEBO2 (1st penalty) *SEBO3 (2nd penalty) = 81.3mm * 10 * 1.6 * (1+(0.6*0.869)) * (1+(0.6*0.571)) = 2657 mm >>> 0.8 second lock time on a frigate.
After upcoming patch, Thanatos: base*NSA*SEBO1 (1st penalty) *SEBO2 (2nd penalty) *SEBO3 (3rd penalty) = 81.3mm * 6 * (1+(0.6*0.869)) * (1+(0.6*0.571)) * (1+(0.6*0.283)) = 1165 mm >>> 1.9 second lock time on a frigate.
It is still a very fast lock, at least its no longer an instant lock... also fitting 3 SEBOs in the precious midslots as well as useing a highslot is costly...
I think the locking speed part of the problem might be fixxed. The application is still redonkulus though. They will still 1-shot every frigate. |
Grookshank
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:38:04 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Grookshank wrote:Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun? doesn't need it An extra gun is about 100k PG; there are multiple fit that are already tight (buffer, cap booster, sb). How does the nag not need the pg for the extra gun, just because it does not need it when you blap fit it? |
Zomgnomnom
Royal Black Watch Highlanders White Legion.
77
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:45:02 -
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Grookshank wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:Grookshank wrote:Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun? doesn't need it An extra gun is about 100k PG; there are multiple fit that are already tight (buffer, cap booster, sb). How does the nag not need the pg for the extra gun, just because it does not need it when you blap fit it?
Moros could use a bit too |
Peter Rotineque
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:45:37 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Q&A
Q: How does the missile change work? A: Missiles 'fly' from the center of your ship to the target. This with especially large ships (such as a Leviathan) this can cause problems. They have a range (flight time * speed) of (for example) 40km. But because the missile has to fly across the radius of the Leviathan (8km in this example) their effective range is only 32km. Missiles now get a small bonus to their flight time based on the radius of the ship launching them. So in the above example they will hit targets 40km away.
Have you compensated for the behaviour of subsecond missile flight times. For those who aren't aware, missiles will only every fly for a whole number of seconds, and the fractional part of the flight time is converted to a probability to fly for an extra second. So for example a missile with a flight time of 4.3 seconds has a 70% chance of flying for 4 seconds and a 30% chance of flying for 5 seconds.
Suppose our Leviathan is firing Torpedoes with a flight time of 9 and a velocity of 2.25, so they have a 100% chance of flying 20.25km. By your formula you would increase the flight time by 3.55 seconds to give an extra 8km of range. So we now have a flight time of 12.55 seconds and a velocity of 2.25, this means that our torps have 55% chance of flying 27km and a 45% chance of 29.25km. So (assuming you want to do full damage) you haven't actually gained the range you expected! |
gr Deamon
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:47:44 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Grookshank wrote:Quote:Naglfar has an additional +60 CPU No powergrid for the extra gun? doesn't need it
It very much needs it. |
Capqu
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1201
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:47:44 -
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Missiles now have the correct range when fired from large ships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2791
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Posted - 2016.06.10 11:52:27 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:There are more changes planned. We will be looking at HAW Tracking (more info here) and Light Fighter application / alpha. As always, we welcome your feedback!
Just please don't make them useless the only thing they can do right now is gank small fleets and camp gates take that away and we have 4 new drakes.
I don't think just changing the application will fix the carrier issue a total rework is needed if they ate going to be relevant in fleets and not op camping gates
Citadel worm hole tax
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