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Morgaine Mighthammer
Rational Chaos Inc.
Asteria Concord.
26
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Posted - 2016.06.10 18:33:51 -
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Darkwing Fiftytwo wrote:This may or may not be a good idea so for all the trolls out there dont bother with "no just no" or whatever else you have
What about making the Networked Sensor Array bonus a mode like triage or whatever so you cant move, or give you a longer docking/teathering delay (2 or 3 minutes). Or simply deploying your fighters gives you aggression, (for trolls I realize deploying drones doesnt give you aggro, these are fighters not drones)
To reduce the OP'ness of the NSA with sebo's etc.
that would entirely defeat the purpose behind the nsa allowing for a mobile offensive capital platform, which is what the carrier is supposed to be. what they should do is just add the sebo to the list of mods you can use when the nsa is active, and viola! no more insta-locking carriers. if people are really that butthurt about it nerf the scan res a little too, but not all the way to 500% from 900%. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Mercenary Coalition
3052
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Posted - 2016.06.10 18:36:33 -
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So, I'll repeat the concerns of PG on the nag, but j now have a bigger question: why the change? I could speculate a couple reasons, but most of them smaller issues or pure guesses. I don't know what the intended goal is here. |
Sp3ctr380
Seventeenth Battalion
Honorable Third Party
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 18:41:56 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:Have you seen Horrible Third Party drop anywhere else? Every time they did, they got wrecked like the baddies they are.
The reason that carrier died is on the carrier pilot being a ******, as can be seen on the killmail, not on Horrible Third being any good.
Says the guy that has only dropped 1 carrier post-patch with 40 dudes. I'm going to file your comment under "butt bothered". |
Catriona Phoenix
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 18:43:26 -
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Rowells wrote:So, I'll repeat the concerns of PG on the nag, but j now have a bigger question: why the change? I could speculate a couple reasons, but most of them smaller issues or pure guesses. I don't know what the intended goal is here.
It had always been the intention going right back to when the missiles were removed. It's just that nothing ever came from it.
Why now? It could be coincidence, but if I had to guess it would be related to the high angle weapons and the fact that you can carry two guns unpackaged but not three.
There's other stuff with ammo/gun cost/heat. |
Zenafar
7
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:16:07 -
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omg can't you just forbid using SB while NSA is active?
So no more 2500 scanres and screw campers with ****** gate fits |
Jones Beach
Central Co-Prosperity Union
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:19:46 -
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NaK'Lin wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:
It *is* Provi and ESPECIALLY Volt being super bad. Have you seen Horrible Third Party drop anywhere else? Every time they did, they got wrecked like the baddies they are.
The reason that carrier died is on the carrier pilot being a ******, as can be seen on the killmail, not on Horrible Third being any good.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/54519602/
Stella Nova is bad, too. Lots of people seem to be bad? In their defense, the Cyno died. Please show us the killmails where the carrier kills several blops with his mighty power of wiping ships from grid instantly.
Exactly - carriers are dying every single day - just not necessarily to the same fleet comps that were utilized before the updates . People just need to adapt. |
d0cTeR9
Serenity Cartel
Rebel Squad
368
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:24:48 -
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Pathetic. Noobs win once again.
Been around since the beginning.
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theelusiveyoda
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
45
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:30:49 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:
The reason that carrier died is on the carrier pilot being a ******, as can be seen on the killmail, not on Horrible Third being any good.
Yet they were good enough to kick you out of sieh, and also the carrier in that killmail couldnt do anything because i had fit racial specific jams and also jammed all of his fighters.
Also a little tip, A widow with t2 multispec's has a higher ecm strength than the base sensor strength of any fighter,
even post patch when the fighters get a sensor strength increase from nsa's you will still easily jam fighters.
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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
365
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:44:02 -
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ECM immune capitals?
I don't understand why you decide to break what you had fixed earlier.
This is something I can't approve of in the slightest. I'd love to see your reasoning behind this. |
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
129
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Posted - 2016.06.10 19:48:17 -
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I'm hoping the fighter changes mean "Give carriers a buff", because right now its pretty silly to roll out a at best mediocre combat ship like a carrier. They need a lot of love, and I dont think a straight increase in DPS is necessarily the right answer. None the less, they are subpar by a significant margin.
Please buffs the carrier |
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2016.06.10 20:42:45 -
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Sister Bliss wrote:...........................
As a first piece of feedback, I really urge CCP as a whole to invest in a professional approach to managing change with your customers. .....................
I have said this before to them.
I have the: qualifications; experience; and the love of EVE to do it for a very reasonable remuneration.
They can contact me any time.
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Skia Aumer
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
283
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Posted - 2016.06.10 20:43:18 -
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Zenafar wrote:omg can't you just forbid using SB while NSA is active?
So no more 2500 scanres and screw campers with ****** gate fits
Chimera with NSA has 750 mm scan res.
Incursus has 750 mm too.
Do you think it's fine? |
Marcus Tedric
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2016.06.10 21:26:27 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:...
Chimera with NSA has 750 mm scan res.
Incursus has 750 mm too.
Do you think it's fine?
Yes, completely.
Any sensor package you can fit on a frigate you can fit on anything bigger.
Logic would be nice - personally I'd love to see all 'magic' removed from EVE.
Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
Black Marker
263
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Posted - 2016.06.10 21:27:29 -
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theelusiveyoda wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:
The reason that carrier died is on the carrier pilot being a ******, as can be seen on the killmail, not on Horrible Third being any good.
Yet they were good enough to kick you out of sieh, and also the carrier in that killmail couldnt do anything because i had fit racial specific jams and also jammed all of his fighters. Also a little tip, A widow with t2 multispec's has a higher ecm strength than the base sensor strength of any fighter, even post patch when the fighters get a sensor strength increase from nsa's you will still easily jam fighters.
They were good enough to kill a POS that was offline for months and that I just couldn't be arsed to take down, because I simply did not give the slightest **** about it.
Me moving away from Sieh has nothing to do with them.
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Ethien Green
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
0
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:13:00 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:theelusiveyoda wrote:Linus Gorp wrote:
The reason that carrier died is on the carrier pilot being a ******, as can be seen on the killmail, not on Horrible Third being any good.
Yet they were good enough to kick you out of sieh, and also the carrier in that killmail couldnt do anything because i had fit racial specific jams and also jammed all of his fighters. Also a little tip, A widow with t2 multispec's has a higher ecm strength than the base sensor strength of any fighter, even post patch when the fighters get a sensor strength increase from nsa's you will still easily jam fighters. They were good enough to kill a POS that was offline for months and that I just couldn't be arsed to take down, because I simply did not give the slightest **** about it. Me moving away from Sieh has nothing to do with them. And you jamming the fighters doesn't change the fact that the carrier pilot was a dumb ****** that could have killed at least half of you if he would have had any clue.
So here's a few things about blops that you may know about.
Ratting carriers do not have points, warping with blops is pretty easy.
We fit our blops properly, no one is getting alphaed anywhere past half armor.
We all run rr. it enough to sustain the armor buffer until the target dies or the BLOPS has to warp off.
And obliviously, jamming out the fighters helps.
o7 Now lets stop shitposting on a thread that has nothing to do with your little quarrels everyone else completely forgot about.
ps: watch our videos sometime to learn how to blops/see how there's no way any carrier would have killed a blops :) |
Meiqur Orez
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
1
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:13:37 -
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Linus Gorp wrote:They were good enough to kill a POS that was offline for months and that I just couldn't be arsed to take down, because I simply did not give the slightest **** about it.
Me moving away from Sieh has nothing to do with them.
And you jamming the fighters doesn't change the fact that the carrier pilot was a dumb ****** that could have killed at least half of you if he would have had any clue.
Ah linus, you're tears are delicious, and I don't even know who you are. I just want to lick your salty face. |
Fyt 284
The Stone Cutters Guild
Requiem Eternal
1
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:27:59 -
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CCP Larrikin wrote:Q&A
Q: Why are you nerfing Capital Shield Extenders?
A: The balance between shield and armor is a complicated issue. Shield gets some passive regen, repairs on the start of the cycle and the ability to fit both damage and tank at the same time. While armor often has a higher buffer and greater accesability to EWar modules while fitting tank.
We believe that for capitals the balance is just a little too strong toward shields.
I'm sorry, but shield caps have been the red headed stepchildren of cap warfare for ages. Even at their current level, they are still seen as useless and under tanked due to their lack of supporting implants. When are you actually going to bring shield caps to a level that they are actually utilized in large scale fleets? |
Ormarr Kai
Doughboys
25
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Posted - 2016.06.10 22:33:35 -
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LittleMadam wrote:Thank you CCP for making carriers **** again!
Seriously you finally made them worth it, and now just because a few people complained they are getting nerfed. Carriers are big slow expensive ships that take years to train. As such they should be powerful, and hard to kill. Especially with subcaps. Please think before you start making capitals worthless again . |
TijsseN
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.06.10 23:06:44 -
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With the requirement of an additional gun turret for the Naglfar, please add the powergrid and the CPU for the extra gun to the base stats. Currently I cannot fit even T2 short range weapons autocannons to a Naglfar without comprosmising the fit. This makes this dread quite useless because you cannot fit a full rack of T2 guns anymore. This is against the design principles of every good EvE fitting. (T2 guns, full tank and utility mod). |
NaK'Lin
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
62
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Posted - 2016.06.10 23:26:20 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:Zenafar wrote:omg can't you just forbid using SB while NSA is active?
So no more 2500 scanres and screw campers with ****** gate fits Chimera with NSA has 750 mm scan res. Incursus has 750 mm too. Do you think it's fine?
That NSA eats through your CAP like an american through an all-you-can-eat buffet.
Which basically makes you unable to emergency jump out if you had to. It also doesn't allow you to use any local targeted Ewar while running. It's actual drawbacks.
It is NOT the 750 scnares that makes people have problems with carriers. It's them being reseboed and seboed to 2K scanres.
Gatecamps need a work-around. Just disallow reseboing / seboing with NSA on.
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Dread Operative
Snuff Box
Snuffed Out
450
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Posted - 2016.06.10 23:52:23 -
[171] - Quote
So the Naglfar will have the least shield EHP, least armor EHP, least DPS, and the the hardest to fit? Great job CCP, brilliant. |
Cyphodias
League of Non-Aligned Worlds
Snuffed Out
2
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Posted - 2016.06.11 00:08:59 -
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hope you geniuses didnt forget to lower the power grid usage on the nag so it can actually fit the 3 guns with a reasonable combat fit. and not have to fit ******** fitting mods in the lows/rigs.
kk thx |
aussieftw
Wife Is Sleeping
Snuffed Out
5
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Posted - 2016.06.11 00:27:10 -
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With one extra gun we really need more power grid for Nagl and no, reduction to the PG requirement of xl artillery isnt enough. With these changes we will not be able to fit even t2 autocannons. |
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
411
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Posted - 2016.06.11 01:15:18 -
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The changes look good so far. The stacking penalty for the NSA makes sense and the debuff to the sensor strength buff was not as bad as I was worried. Will need to test it, but looks good. Thanks for applying the sensor buff of the NSA to fighters.
Oh, will Citadel Fighters get the benefit of an operator's drone and fighter skills at any point soon?
Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
2795
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Posted - 2016.06.11 02:55:46 -
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Petrified wrote:
Oh, will Citadel Fighters get the benefit of an operator's drone and fighter skills at any point soon?
I would assume no since no other weapon skill affects them... and they said no basic skill would only citadel skills
Citadel worm hole tax
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
411
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Posted - 2016.06.11 03:46:04 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Petrified wrote:
Oh, will Citadel Fighters get the benefit of an operator's drone and fighter skills at any point soon?
I would assume no since no other weapon skill affects them... and they said no basic skill would only citadel skills
Remind me where that was said as I could not find it previously. 'Thank you' in advance.
Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
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The Receptionist
Astra Zeneca.
16
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Posted - 2016.06.11 04:04:11 -
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lol just when you made the effort to balance the Hel to be equal to the other supers....-10% to all shield extenders. RIP. |
Jaiimez C
Tri-gun
Psychotic Tendencies.
4
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Posted - 2016.06.11 04:16:19 -
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Does addressing HAW tracking also mean you'll address the lacklustre performance of Torpedoes and as an extension the rapid torpedo launchers for the leviathan and Phoenix. |
Zenafar
7
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Posted - 2016.06.11 04:57:05 -
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NaK'Lin wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:Zenafar wrote:omg can't you just forbid using SB while NSA is active?
So no more 2500 scanres and screw campers with ****** gate fits Chimera with NSA has 750 mm scan res. Incursus has 750 mm too. Do you think it's fine? That NSA eats through your CAP like an american through an all-you-can-eat buffet. Which basically makes you unable to emergency jump out if you had to. It also doesn't allow you to use any local targeted Ewar while running. It's actual drawbacks. It is NOT the 750 scnares that makes people have problems with carriers. It's them being reseboed and seboed to 2K scanres. Gatecamps need a work-around. Just disallow reseboing / seboing with NSA on.
Absolutely, thx Nak'Lin |
Borat Guereen
Minmatar Secret Service
Ushra'Khan
64
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Posted - 2016.06.11 05:00:16 -
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The specific ability of the Nag to refit between high angle and cap guns is an interesting option.
Why not giving an extra 5% damage to the other dreads that can't do this instead of taking this ability away or look at other otpions, like for example, have the nag use aggression timer instead of weapon timer for refitting.
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