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D Joe
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:08:00 -
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The only reason I put windows on my intel mac was to play eve haha.
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Ingols
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:38:00 -
[32]
Could be good news since I've been looking for reasons why *not* to *ever* use windows or upgrade to Windows vista.
However I'm not fond of the people who brought us Codega either. Seems the have Gypped the OSS community and leveraged alot of work other people have done for free.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega
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woodman az
Gallente
United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:08:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: Ingols
Could be good news since I've been looking for reasons why *not* to *ever* use windows or upgrade to Windows vista.
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My second game machine is realy for upgrade, but I too don't want to go Vista.
Trying to read up now on MAC's. Anyone have any hints? i was thinking of either the 24 inch IMAC or the laptop.
Promises made > Promises Kept
So Say We All
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N Solarz
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:28:00 -
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i read the title and got really excited, then i read 'Transgaming' and 'Cider' and cried inside. emulators suck, make an actual client. and get working on the linux one that was alreay promised
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:49:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Sevarus James on 10/03/2007 00:47:01
Originally by: N Solarz
i read the title and got really excited, then i read 'Transgaming' and 'Cider' and cried inside. emulators suck, make an actual client. and get working on the linux one that was alreay promised
You cry to mucheth over not much methinks. Been working just fine for me for quite some time now...and doesn't "suck".
At this point with MACs and linux having a much smaller share of the overall market, most of us are happy as hell that CCP is paying attention to us...at all. Would we like more? Hell yeah. Duh.
1/2 full is my cup, and while I WOULD like native "native", at least I don't have to shell out bucks or steal/pirate an entire overrated buggy viral prone operating system to join in the virutal world that is EVE.
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Kadarin
Wolfenrecon
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Posted - 2007.03.10 02:09:00 -
[36]
Good news. It's also another reason to tack onto the list of reasons why I should go buy a Mac Pro.
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:26:00 -
[37]
Originally by: ZeeWolf
How can you play Eve with only one mouse button?  Macintosh fools.
My MX1000 has 8 buttons  10 if you count tilting the scroll wheel 
"In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio |
Crydawner
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Posted - 2007.03.10 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Crydawner on 10/03/2007 09:32:08
Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: ZeeWolf
How can you play Eve with only one mouse button? Macintosh fools.
My MX1000 has 8 buttons 10 if you count tilting the scroll wheel
...or so that's what you tell people when they comment on your suspiciously strong handshake ;)
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.10 16:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: ZeeWolf
How can you play Eve with only one mouse button? Macintosh fools.
My MX1000 has 8 buttons 10 if you count tilting the scroll wheel
Yeah, but how many of those do you use on a regular basis? (If you say all 10 you're a freak :) )
I'd be interested in reading a dev blog on the subject, by someone involved in getting the client functioning on OS X. Would love to hear some technical tidbits on what kind of challengs there were and what Mac users can expect from this, if there's any differences between the PC version an Mac version that are notable, etc.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.10 16:29:00 -
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It's "Mac", not "MAC", you ******* HERETICS! 
Originally by: Diana Marc
Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.10 16:30:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Jarjar
Originally by: ZeeWolf
How can you play Eve with only one mouse button? Macintosh fools.
My MX1000 has 8 buttons 10 if you count tilting the scroll wheel
Yeah, but how many of those do you use on a regular basis? (If you say all 10 you're a freak :) )
Four (left/right regular buttons, and back/forward for browsing).
That's not the point, the point is that the Mac one mouse button myth needs to die.
Besides, it's not like the portables need an external mouse to right-click either. 
"In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.10 16:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Jarjar
That's not the point, the point is that the Mac one mouse button myth needs to die.
Besides, it's not like the portables need an external mouse to right-click either.
Oh I know the myth needs to die, I have a Mac (been too lazy to buy a two-button mouse for it too, so control-click is almost second nature now).
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Redrig Bayer
Unrepentant Inc
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:20:00 -
[43]
Very good news... Means I can get back into Eve a bit more again.
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Awox
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.10 18:28:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Nicocat
You little bastards, CCP. Stop trying to expand your player base and FIX YOUR GAME FIRST!
Thank you.
-mgmt
QFT, HAR HAR.
Seriously though, the man has a point. This is just another quick-fix to get some more playerbase. How about actually fixing bugs first? I can see a lot more pain coming from this. Mac users being unable to play after client patches, bugs in the emulation software, even worse rendering during fleet fights (lol) and other stuff.
That being said I think using Cider is a weak choice, it wont run nearly as well as it could with native code, right? Do it proper or don't do it all. People already have Crossover.
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Prophet Jurah
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:19:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Great, more hardcore geeks playing eve..
Hardcore geeks don't own macs.
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:21:00 -
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omg please! Windows keeps on killing my HD's and erasing all my stuff so im stuck using my mac and i really want to play!
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Eeyore
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:44:00 -
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if new macOs's are BSD based , and BSD came from the same source as Linux -> that means I will run eve on gentoo natively (cause they would have to write openGL, to support mac)
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 06:59:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Awox
[ Mac users being unable to play after client patches, bugs in the emulation software, even worse rendering during fleet fights (lol) and other stuff.
That being said I think using Cider is a weak choice, it wont run nearly as well as it could with native code, right? Do it proper or don't do it all. People already have Crossover.
Actually awox, as a current cedega/linux user, my experience with patches/updates and gameplay have been surprisingly smooth. We only had one revelations patch that actually caused problems, and it turned out to be a ccp issue that affected even the windows users. As for the rendering, my framerate at 1900x1200 fullscreen during fleet actions has actually been fairly close if not the same as the native client. (Recent FREGE action vs. RATEL in a multiple carrier fight was eminently playable.)
The crossover product for mac is still not quite there yet, from the reports from folks down in the tech forum, but it is improving quite quickly.
While we linux/mac users would prefer "native" as in opengl, the fact is there are quite a lot of us who are able to not only run the EVE client, but run it very very well. For CCP to open its arms and acknowledge that windows isn't the only platform out there, and work with the companies that are trying to get applications on these platforms is a good thing.
As for Cider, its been getting quite a bit of scrutiny, and several game companies have already decided that its good enough to use with their games. CCP, for all of your complaints, is a business, and can only stay in business by broadening its base. I have read your post and your points on some of EVE's shortcomings, and while I won't disagree with all of them, I HAVE been involved in EVE since 6/03, and its not as bad as you are portraying it. -my opinion, mileage will vary.
Ubuntu 3d-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Kernel Sander
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.03.11 10:25:00 -
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I KISS YOU
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Captain Havoc
Caldari
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.11 10:59:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Captain Havoc on 11/03/2007 10:57:11
Sorry just had to throw in these remarks and be totally flamed for them..., sorry WB..
Why buy a mac? build a PC for the same price that has twice the power!!
Crapple Macintrash.. nuff said..
To quote a Graphic Designer in a movie he once made about his ever so loved Mac's "Do you know why they have a handle? so you can attach a chain and use it as a boat anchor!!!"
You want to be a teh uber serious gamer, build your own PC then and stop looking at Dell, HP and Mac and other prepackaged crap!! Alienware is the ONLY acceptable prepackaged serious gamer hardware, hell it's so cool it should be called Yarrware!!
Ok i've vented, everyone go about their business.. 
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woodman az
Gallente
United Space Aillance USA
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:49:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Edited by: Captain Havoc on 11/03/2007 10:57:11
Sorry just had to throw in these remarks and be totally flamed for them..., sorry WB..
Why buy a mac? build a PC for the same price that has twice the power!!
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You want to be a teh uber serious gamer, build your own PC then and stop looking at Dell, HP and Mac and other prepackaged crap!! Alienware is the ONLY acceptable prepackaged serious gamer hardware, hell it's so cool it should be called Yarrware!!
Ok i've vented, everyone go about their business..
I do assemble my own PCs, have been for over 10 years! Any one remmber Slot A's???  . I am just getting tried of Billy's **** and will not EVER upgrade to Vista.
So I am happy that I my have a choice and can use a MAC to play eve. The main thing that has held me back from using a MAC is game play.
Promises made > Promises Kept
So Say We All
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Jarjar
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.11 14:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
Why buy a mac? build a PC for the same price that has twice the power!!
Ding ding ding!!!! You found the second Mac myth that needs to die, congratulations!
Go look up the prices, and STFU. Mac Pro's were last time I checked VERY cheap compared to their competition.
Also, if it's not cheaper, think what you get for the extra money, and again, STFU.
Now I've vented a bit too, I very rarely flame.
"In Communist China ISK buys YOU!!" - random bio |
Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 15:09:00 -
[53]
hey hey
Er . . . .... . . I though you could play EVE on a Mac already ?
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Just-fun
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.11 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Mortuus on 11/03/2007 15:43:59
Bah Sevarus, if you've been around this long you should know how not to get viruses on your PC without needing Antiviral software.
Besides, Macs and Linux are only safe for the same reason nobody makes anything for them, 5% of the market share.
As for Vista, thats a scary prospect. I'm waiting a couple months before I think about it. Since I use it at work all the time I'll let you know how realistic the rep is =)
Oh yea, you guys need to kill more people, I think Kaker is beating all of you for the month.
Oh yea, hurrah to opening up EvE to more people, with all the blues my alliance has I need every available target. MMmmm....DX10 EvE
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mortuus
Edited by: Mortuus on 11/03/2007 15:43:59
Bah Sevarus, if you've been around this long you should know how not to get viruses on your PC without needing Antiviral software.
Hey Mort! Oh, I DO...its called Ubuntu, and no viruses here thankyouverymuch. lmao.
Originally by: Mortuus
Besides, Macs and Linux are only safe for the same reason nobody makes anything for them, 5% of the market share.
Myth and complete and utter f.u.d. there. Different operating system architecture completely.
As for 'making' stuff for them? Mort, ya need to stick to killer pvp setups mah man....that right there tells me all I need ta know about what you know about macs, linux and open source applications.
Ubuntu 3d-Linux Desktop+EVE |
Morgan Tackler
The Kru
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Posted - 2007.03.11 16:51:00 -
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Nice one, nice to be able to free up my 10gb bootcamp partition.
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Karma Coma
The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2007.03.12 05:55:00 -
[57]
Originally by: D Joe
The only reason I put windows on my intel mac was to play eve haha.
Same here! Now I can delete that partition and stop feeling dirty for having windows on my mac
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.12 07:23:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Captain Havoc
To quote a Graphic Designer in a movie he once made about his ever so loved Mac's "Do you know why they have a handle? so you can attach a chain and use it as a boat anchor!!!"
"Mac killed my inner child...". 
Hehe! That's a classic. I still get a good laugh when I watch that clip.
Originally by: Diana Marc
Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.03.12 07:53:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Nicocat
You little bastards, CCP. Stop trying to expand your player base and FIX YOUR GAME FIRST!
Thank you.
-mgmt
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Merasa Tro
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Posted - 2007.03.12 09:37:00 -
[60]
Just a 'For Your Info' folks.
The current generation of Macs all come with a multi-button mouse in the box.
It may look like one button, but they've been kind of sneaky to keep the image of one button.
Its actually 2 touch sensitive halfs under the one shell. so you can left or right click. It all so has a little scroll wheel and a squeezy button from each side.
Eve under bootcamp (into XP) works like a charm with the mouse.
Hopefully the emulation will be fine, even if just for changing training and market stuff.
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