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RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.11.01 02:07:00 - [121] Originally by: Mortuus Edited by: Mortuus on 12/10/2007 16:03:52 Just a little nudge for the "Vagacane" though its speeds aren't really high enough for it to use the name anymore. Perhaps I shall call it the "Spank-cane"; obviously speed and gank. 6x425mm t2 (why, because they do hurt more, and I can still hit an orbiting ceptor), 2x Heavy Missle Launcher (Because sometimes you just have to be able to hit something farther than 24km away) 1x MWD t2, 1x Disrupter t2, 2x LSE t2 1x DCU t2, 2x Overdrive t2, 3x Gyro t2 Rig it as you please, I prefer some Falloff, a little tracking, and a shield EM resist. With my skills and hardwiring, it hits 747 DPS with Hail and Drones, but the 616 DPS with EMP. This setup is evil. I use one less gyro and add either another speed mod or a shield enhancer in the low. I would use missile racks in 0.0 as the engagement ranges tend to be greater than low sec where I can usually get in range to drop twin neuts on the quickly-capless target. I've used the 425's on this setup and found no real practical difference to the 220's except in terms of ammo consumption. YMMV. "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Dru Aren	Posted - 2007.11.01 20:24:00 - [122] Here is what I am thinking, feedback would be appreciated. Hi's 6x dual 180mm II 2x medium "knave" energy drain Meds 10Mn MWD webber warp disruptor 1x t2 multispectral Lows 1x t2 Medium Repper 1x t2 Damage Control 2x t2 Gyros 1x PDU 1x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Drones 4x hornet ecm 300 1x vespa ecm 600 I am really wondering if the 1600mm plate is a good idea instead of dual reppers. If I didnt fit the 1600mm plate I wouldnt need the PDU, so i would probably fit a EANM or an active explosive hardener. But if I do this then I am guessing that I would need to switch out the multispectral for a medium cap booster. Haven't flown a Cane long at all so I am just wondering what setup is "best". Thanks for the input.
Zuk Hades	Posted - 2007.11.03 19:16:00 - [123] 6x 220t2 ac 2x heavy launchers mwd 20k scram, web cap booster with 400`s or 800`s 1600 plate expl, kinetic, thermal hardener t2 repper pdu 6 t2 light drones or 1 med and 4 light armor repper rig armor rig (10% armor increase) u end up with 12k armor
Hreik	Posted - 2007.11.07 20:49:00 - [124] This is more of a gang setup that solo pvp. 6 220's----2 med nos 10mn ab/20k scram/2 cap recharge 2 2 MAR2/ ken/therm/exp membrain, cap relay can run both reps indefinetly when ur get ur nos on. with good skills think you could drop 1 nos for launcher and still run reps, or better yet, keep the nos and drop the cap relay for a gyro. benafits from a buddy wit a web, but even solo in low sec, its not a slow ship, and you should be able to catch a cruiser long enough to pop it (all of what 20 seconds) wouldnt go up against a group with a nuet ***** in it tho. you will die faster than that cruiser :D.
Animo06 Minmatar The New Era	Posted - 2007.11.08 14:46:00 - [125] ok first of all i want to see you run into an inty pilots whos moving 9k a sec around your ship at 17k with a tracking dis a mwd web and jecter and tell me you can hit him...ive gotten my claw through every gate camp ive ever run into even onces with hugs bubble and other inties chassing me and never laid a finger on me id like to see an ac fitted cane do that lol.especially when i have a sig radius of 27.its not easy youll be lucky to hit the ****er in most assault frigs m8.
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:00:00 - [126] Its actually pretty easy, if they are solo let them get comfortable and move away, OR if they have friends coming pop ECM drones, laugh and warp. Though I am wondering how you have a sig of 27 with a MWD running. ex-Occassus Republica <3
pentinor Project Nemesis	Posted - 2007.11.09 23:06:00 - [127] My PvP cane im using....only lost it once and it was teh lag ~High~ 6x 220mm T2 w/ barrage 2x Diminishing ~Mid~ 1x 10mn MWD 1x 24km scram 1x Web (best named) 1x Cap Booster w/800s (best named) ~Lows~ 2x MAR T2 3x Active Hardners Ther/Exp/Kin T2 1x Eanm T2 or Dmg control T2 5x Light T2 drones of ur choice -
Usshari Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.19 12:25:00 - [128] Something im using with low SP: 6x 220mm Vulcan Is, 2x Heavy Assault Launchers Named AB, X5 Web, 20km Scrambler, Electrochemical Capbooster w/800s 800 Tungsten, EANM I, DCU II, Damage Mod, named Repper. Drones: Whatever you fancy. Im pretty fresh to flying Canes, but I really like this ship and so far ive had good times with the setup. Not sure how others feel about it, but it seems to work well for me. *******
Elara Aru	Posted - 2007.11.21 22:18:00 - [129] Originally by: Animo06 ok first of all i want to see you run into an inty pilots whos moving 9k a sec around your ship at 17k with a tracking dis a mwd web and jecter and tell me you can hit him...ive gotten my claw through every gate camp ive ever run into even onces with hugs bubble and other inties chassing me and never laid a finger on me id like to see an ac fitted cane do that lol.especially when i have a sig radius of 27.its not easy youll be lucky to hit the ****er in most assault frigs m8. Thats nice, but the cane is about dealing death and eating pods.....
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.22 01:45:00 - [130] Recent setup change that has been working very well, especially with the rise in ECM use I am encountering. 6x425mm t2, 2x heavy missle 1x MWD t2, 1x Disrupter t2, 2x LSE t2 1x DCU t2, 3x Gyro t2, 1x LADAR Backup t2, 1x Overdrive t2 Rigs: Ambit Extension, Aux Thruster, EM Shield ex-Occassus Republica <3
Mai Wei	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:20:00 - [131] Edited by: Mai Wei on 24/11/2007 10:22:37 Edited by: Mai Wei on 24/11/2007 10:21:37 I haven't seen a lot about gang set ups. most of them are solo AC setups. This setup has a 400+ DPS and cap will never run out. Can I get some input on it? Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Invulnerability Field II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tracking Computer II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 650mm Artillery Cannon II 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher Auxiliary Nano Pump I Projectile Burst Aerator I Anti-Explosive Pump I The Invulneribility Shield II just buys time before getting down to armor. My Tactical Shield Manipulation is 5. and the calculated effective HP is 38.9k
Tollefso Kyanus	Posted - 2007.11.24 12:51:00 - [132] Can hurricane take a bs or no?
Tatiana Vallane	Posted - 2007.11.24 13:20:00 - [133] Okay, brand new to the hurricane and the BC Class.... So i've seen most people use the 220mm AC's on their hurricanes forgetting those smaller ships etc. Now i'm under the impression that for something moving super fast, the 180mm's are truely devestating. So my question is this: Is it feesable to use say, 4 220mm cannons and 2 180's so you can get both big and small? I'd have to have a interceptor running circles around me preventing me from doing something that i want to do. Also, whats with all the shield extenders etc. I was under the impression that the Hurricane did best as an armor tank. Am I missing something?
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.24 18:12:00 - [134] Edited by: Drek Grapper on 24/11/2007 18:12:58 Originally by: Tatiana Vallane Edited by: Tatiana Vallane on 24/11/2007 14:42:18 Okay, brand new to the hurricane and the BC Class.... So i've seen most people use the 220mm AC's on their hurricanes for getting those smaller ships etc. Now i'm under the impression that for something moving super fast, the 180mm's are truely devestating. So my question is this: Is it feesable to use say, 4 220mm cannons and 2 180's so you can get both big and small? I'd hate to have a interceptor running circles around me preventing me from doing something that i want to do. Also, whats with all the shield extenders etc. I was under the impression that the Hurricane did best as an armor tank. Am I missing something? Just use 180's the damage is not much worse, it saves on grid and tracking is better. The Shield Extender setups you see are mainly gang setups fitted for max gank as most like to fit 3 gyro2's in the lows. People use Extender fits solo as well with speed mods in the lows but it's imperative to stay out of web range for obvious reasons and out there damage isn't ideal if have no falloff rigs fitted. ------------------------------------------------ 'The thing always happens that you really believe in... and the belief in a thing makes it happen' - Frank Loyd Wright
Rezeik Aurelius	Posted - 2007.11.25 21:46:00 - [135] Edited by: Rezeik Aurelius on 25/11/2007 21:46:45 Playing a little theorycraft with some pvp builds. I've heard not to use plates with a single repper, but the 1600mm rolled tungsten puts on equivalent HP to running a MARII for 150 sec. with my build. If the fight isn't over by then, you should probably have run away already. 6x 180 AC II 2x Named HML 1x Named MWD 1x WD II 1x Named web 1x Named med booster with 800 1x MAR II 1x 1600mm RT plate 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 2x Gyro II 6x Warrior II 1x Falloff rig I used to like Neut/Nos, but the ships it could cripple don't seem to get into range of them, and I only end up getting out-drained by bigger ships anyway. The disadvantage is that the plate makes the ship manuever like a pig. But it tanks pretty solid and leaves room for 2 damage mods. The DPS comes in over 500 with great skills. I like to run with a tackler, so it gives you the flexibility to drop the disruptor (I like to keep the web anyway) and fit a sensor booster or some kind of ECM, and also drop the plate for another gyro to make it more damage oriented. Could I do better with this build?
Sconitta Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.26 00:09:00 - [136] Edited by: Sconitta on 26/11/2007 00:09:12 there is only 1 fitt for cane High 6x 220 2x med nos Med mwd,disruptor,web,capbooster Low 2x MAR,hardys,damage control --------
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:02:00 - [137] Yea, if you want to lose to mine that is =) ex-Occassus Republica <3
Xavok eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:49:00 - [138] Originally by: Sconitta Edited by: Sconitta on 26/11/2007 00:09:12 there is only 1 fitt for cane High 6x 220 2x med nos Med mwd,disruptor,web,capbooster Low 2x MAR,hardys,damage control People who believe there is only one way to do something tend to get blown up ;) (I use T2 or best named throughout this build, use what you can) High 6x 180mm AC II (These do need to be tech 2 so you can operate in Barrage fall-off range - if you can't use T2, I think a nano-fit hurricane is not your best option; use an armor tank) 1x Med Nos 1x Cloak Meds 1 web 1 warp 1 MWD 1 Large shield extender Lows 2x Overdrive Injector 2x Gyrostabilizer 1 Damage Control 1 nanofiber Hull Conversion whatever drone combination you'd like that adds up to 30 m3 I don't use rigs This is my fit for 0.0 gatecamps or small roaming gangs. For larger fleet engagements I will drop the web for an extra Large Shield Extender. Cloaks allow for survivability when in those small gangs or when solo-ing; hurricanes make juicy targets, so knowing when to fade and stay quiet keeps me alive. Very similar to the other nano-fitted builds mentioned. You take a DPS hit in order to get that extra speed (I fly 330 m/s without the MWD on), so remember to change your tactics accordingly - when solo-ing hit & run like a stabber, no toe-to-toe tanking like in a plated rupture. In fleet battles you're simply extra DPS, no key roles. Orbit slow people (like a 'cane with 2 med reppers ) at 15k to avoid their med NOS, melt their armor faster than they can rep it - your 180s will hit her more frequently than the slower 220s hit you - pulse the MWD to keep your speed between 600-800 m/s. Smile and say 'Yarrr' while you do it.
Xavok eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.26 02:51:00 - [139] Originally by: Tollefso Kyanus Can hurricane take a bs or no? It's a challenge, but yes. Especially if you can find a BS fitted for missions, since they're usually designed for long range engagements and will lose to an AC boat. Typically a short-range BC (any BC) will lose in a fight to a short range BS.
Iqnius	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:03:00 - [140] anyone got any T1 setups that don't require massive amounts of skills?
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.27 01:48:00 - [141] Take the dual rep or plated one and make its t1, should work. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Xavok eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.27 03:39:00 - [142] Originally by: Mortuus Take the dual rep or plated one and make its t1, should work. I agree whole-heartedly.
xStormwingx Caldari NCN Corp Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.02 17:15:00 - [143] What is the most appropriate AC to use on a solo pvp hurricane anyway? 180s get spectacular tracking but low damage, 425s vice versa, 220s in the middle. I've aways been using 425s, and as long as I've got a web I can generally catch any ceptor. (either because of their flying or my MWDing into web range) my current setup: 6x 425 II 1 10mn mwd II 1 x5 web 1 scram 2 MAR II 2 Gyro II 1 EANM 1 Damage Control II hole are filled according to situation/mood...any recommendations? Thinking about throwing an LSE into the mix too. -------
Aqua Ice	Posted - 2007.12.03 01:39:00 - [144] Edited by: Aqua Ice on 03/12/2007 01:39:20 curious normally use a cyclone, and not much PVP, but I now want a cane for pvp :D I normally have a ewar friend, so i was thinking on taking tanking to the extreme... 6x220mm AC 2xHeavy Assualt Missle Launchers 2x large shield extender 1x medium shielf booster 1x invulantary field 5x PDS :P 1x internal force array. drones.. mmm drones.... Now is that just plain way out there in insanity? Or useable in PvP? Or should i just use one of the more traditional loadouts... As i typically go around with my friend thats Ewar when actually looking to get shot at. Otherwise solo...
Xavok eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.03 04:34:00 - [145] Originally by: Aqua Ice Edited by: Aqua Ice on 03/12/2007 01:39:20 curious normally use a cyclone, and not much PVP, but I now want a cane for pvp :D I normally have a ewar friend, so i was thinking on taking tanking to the extreme... 6x220mm AC 2xHeavy Assualt Missle Launchers 2x large shield extender 1x medium shielf booster 1x invulantary field 5x PDS :P 1x internal force array. drones.. mmm drones.... Now is that just plain way out there in insanity? Or useable in PvP? Or should i just use one of the more traditional loadouts... As i typically go around with my friend thats Ewar when actually looking to get shot at. Otherwise solo... Originally by: Aqua Ice Edited by: Aqua Ice on 03/12/2007 01:39:20 curious normally use a cyclone, and not much PVP, but I now want a cane for pvp :D I normally have a ewar friend, so i was thinking on taking tanking to the extreme... 6x220mm AC 2xHeavy Assualt Missle Launchers 2x large shield extender 1x medium shielf booster 1x invulantary field 5x PDS :P 1x internal force array. drones.. mmm drones.... Now is that just plain way out there in insanity? Or useable in PvP? Or should i just use one of the more traditional loadouts... As i typically go around with my friend thats Ewar when actually looking to get shot at. Otherwise solo... If I understand your scenario, I think this is a poor set-up. You will go out with one friend in an EWAR frigate, so I assume (s)he will be tackling, as you lack a stasis web as well as a warp jammer. If your friend was to die, you would be left without a web to stop a tackler, no jammer to hold weaker targets, and no MWD to get out of or into range. I would never ever ever solo in this set-up (it's simply not doable - anyone you could beat would simply warp away), and in my thinking a 2 man gang is almost solo'ing, because you don't have enough people to really specialize and excel in a particular role. The lack of damage is also worrying - where will the DPS from your gang come from? This could be a good bait ship if you had a larger fleet waiting to warp in once your target agresses you. I may not understand your situation, so take this as advice, not gospel.
Aqua Ice	Posted - 2007.12.03 04:52:00 - [146] Edited by: Aqua Ice on 03/12/2007 04:53:01 Hahaha, thanks for the info. I knew something just wasn't right with the DPS meter on quickfit :P . I seem not to know my bigger ships at all, and regret me being such a dingbat (usually swear by much smaller ships :P ). Yes i guess it is a solo team (it's me, and a friend doing his ewar gig, and sometimes a domix drone nutjob that has no idea what he is doing... and even more rarely an overly under-equipped raven pilot that thinks he's king with only 2.5 mil sp. Yes I'm part of the wackiest bunch, but as you can imagine, very funny at times). Anyways, what would you recommend then? I'm not terribly T2 literate for guns (never specialized in medium guns), but mostly anything else I'm golden. So any suggestions? For the old person that never bother with a BC till now :D (though i probably should have 2 years ago...)
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.03 05:08:00 - [147] For a gang with EW, try my AC + shield + gank + speed setup above. Works quite well. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Aqua Ice	Posted - 2007.12.03 05:14:00 - [148] Originally by: Mortuus For a gang with EW, try my AC + shield + gank + speed setup above. Works quite well. I'll look into that, however, I'm pulling a blank, whats LSE? and would i be fine without the rigs? There terribly pricey... lol But i take it your setup is for killing someone, and fast at that?
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.03 07:53:00 - [149] Large Shield Extender. ex-Occassus Republica <3
Aqua Ice	Posted - 2007.12.03 13:53:00 - [150] Thank You. I hate how it's always something terribly obvious.

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