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swoj
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.12.09 12:14:00 -
[391]
 Originally by: MicanG
I was following this piece of info, It might be outdated tho,
If it's a 1run bpc with a +4 decryptor you get 4 runs
if it's max run bpc with a +4 decryptor you get 5 runs
if it's a 1run bpc with a +9 decryptor yhou get 9 runs
if it's max run bpc with a +9 decryptor you get 10 runs
That's how it's always worked. I'm don't remember seeing any change to that in the patch notes. As there are plenty of 4 and 9 run BPCs for the new ships appearing on contracts and the Sales forum, I don't think we've missed anything
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Dr Jeeva
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Posted - 2007.12.09 20:54:00 -
[392]
The ME = -4 and PE = -4. Guess I may have forgotten it. Thanks guys for the replies.
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Kaede Nakamura
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Posted - 2007.12.10 10:18:00 -
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it seems that the 1.1 success decryptors reduce the number of runs.
rupture bpc: max no. of runs
decryptor: advanced theories
broadsword bpc: 2 runs
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Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.12.12 23:23:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Jenny Wimbishi
The difference between 5/5/5 and 4/4/4 is a little less than 1%.
Using the calculator included with eveMEEP, here are the percentages for module/ship invention by skill level assuming the following layout encryp/sci/sci.
You do realize that the guy that makes eveMEEP dont actually KNOW the formula, yes? Noone does. The numbers i've seen suggest that they count for a bit more.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Strom Kryos
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.15 18:59:00 -
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I used a +2 decryptor (Engagement Plan) w max run thorax bpcs and only got 2 runs, so its not the max run that affects it or there is a bug. Also if it help 3/10 invention jobs were success with skill of 5/4/4 and useing ship for those trying to get an accurate calculation.
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Lone Gunman
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Posted - 2007.12.15 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Lone Gunman on 15/12/2007 19:16:01
Originally by: Strom Kryos
I used a +2 decryptor (Engagement Plan) w max run thorax bpcs and only got 2 runs, so its not the max run that affects it or there is a bug. Also if it help 3/10 invention jobs were success with skill of 5/4/4 and useing ship for those trying to get an accurate calculation.
The +2 Decryptor with the max Run BPC should have given you a 3 run Tech II BPC.
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Strom Kryos
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.16 06:03:00 -
[397]
Edited by: Strom Kryos on 16/12/2007 06:03:00
It was giving me 5 runs with the +4 before patch.. which Im running jobs w that decryptor now but the +2 run was only giving me 2 run bpcs.
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mybuilder22
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:37:00 -
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Ok so I want to get started and Ive looked but couldnt find it anywhere. If I use max run module bpcs with no decryptor how many runs if successful will I end up with on the new bpc?? and would hte me/pe be -4/-4???
Thx in advance
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Lone Gunman
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Posted - 2007.12.17 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: mybuilder22
Ok so I want to get started and Ive looked but couldnt find it anywhere. If I use max run module bpcs with no decryptor how many runs if successful will I end up with on the new bpc?? and would hte me/pe be -4/-4???
Thx in advance
I just saw this on another thread since you not stating what specifically you are Inventing....
Originally by: El'essar Viocragh
1_run bpc + no decryptor = 0 runs + 0 runs = 0 runs (rounded to 1)
max_run bpc + no decryptor = base_runs + 0 runs = base_runs
1_run bpc + decryptor = 0 runs + decryptor_runs = decryptor_runs
max_run bpc + decryptor = base_runs + decryptor_runs = base_runs + decryptor_runs
If the corresponding t2 blueprint has a production limit between 0 and 10, base_runs = 1
If the corresponding t2 blueprint has a procduction limit between 11 and 100, base_runs = 10
decryptor_runs is the modification specific to the used decryptor (+-0, +1, +2, +4, +9)
If the t1 input bpc has a fraction of the possible maxruns, you get that same fraction of the base_runs.
Invention BPCs always have ME-4 and PL-4. This too may or may not be modified with decryptor specific values.
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Strom Kryos
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.17 05:00:00 -
[400]
Same issue again.. max run maulus bpc (15 runs) + test reports (+1 run decryptor) ended up with 1 run keres bpc. Same issue I had with phobos.. again does not work with the max run bpc = 1 run + decryptor value.
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Aivo Laitanen
Laitanen Holding
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Posted - 2007.12.19 12:50:00 -
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Hello,
For a frigate, 15 runs is not the max run ;)
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Artmedis Valben
Gallente
Lobster of Babel
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Posted - 2007.12.20 03:52:00 -
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Max runs for ships are:
frigates: 30 runs
destroyers: 20 runs
cruisers, battlecruisers & industrials: 15 runs
Battleships and Barges: 10 runs
Only by using MAX run do you get decryptor bonus runs + 1 extra run.
New after patch:
Using old 1000 run module BPCs which have had production limit lowered to 300 in the patch will yield base 33 runs if successful :)
good I have quite a nice stock of these :)
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Coerzia
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:51:00 -
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So looking at all this... is invention really worth it? Seems to be a lot of effort and chance for a pretty average income, if you don't get unlucky and actually make a loss?
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