Unless I am reading this incorrectly, the various mining foreman links are becoming command burst modules that require an ammo charge to obtain the area affect bonus? If so, then it seems in the past the hindering factor was time spent training the skills for the best results. But now, the hindering factor will be the ammo. And instead of limiting your abilities to your group, anyone 'caught" in the burst affect can mine right in your area free of charge.

I'll have to reread this again.

Fozzie, could you also look into the Noctis for November?

It really needs a full balance pass. Right now its really expensive and easy to kill in high sec and tanking it is almost impossible.

A 1000 unit's of heavy water a cycle!!!!

Not liking these change's! Small corp's will find this hard to cope with, let alone the price of the rorqual..

a noctis needs tank? o.O

Unless I am reading this incorrectly, the various mining foreman links are becoming command burst modules that require an ammo charge to obtain the area affect bonus? If so, then it seems in the past the hindering factor was time spent training the skills for the best results. But now, the hindering factor will be the ammo. And instead of limiting your abilities to your group, anyone 'caught" in the burst affect can mine right in your area free of charge.

I'll have to reread this again.

Vincent Athena and Obil Que - thank you for the clarification since initially I glossed over it.

Looking into these command burst modules, it seems silly to me. Your skill training "taught" you the knowledge to bestow onto others - thus the various bonuses offered in a leadership role. But now your training appears to offer how to fire a module that magically offers knowledge for a brief time (as long as you have ammo to continue firing off knowledge). If CCP wanted to limit the distance, then make the old links have a range limitation and not this "firing of magic knowledge bullets" to fleet members.

"I'm out of ammo, so I guess I forgot how to lead a mining expedition."

Yeah, its become a ganking target. At least on barges you can fit tank.

Vincent Athena and Obil Que - thank you for the clarification since initially I glossed over it.

Looking into these command burst modules, it seems silly to me. Your skill training "taught" you the knowledge to bestow onto others - thus the various bonuses offered in a leadership role. But now your training appears to offer how to fire a module that magically offers knowledge for a brief time (as long as you have ammo to continue firing off knowledge). If CCP wanted to limit the distance, then make the old links have a range limitation and not this "firing of magic knowledge bullets" to fleet members.

"I'm out of ammo, so I guess I forgot how to lead a mining expedition."

Movement Effects:
-100% Rorqual velocity
+900% Rorqual mass
Prevents warping, docking, jumping, cloaking, tethering

Are you f***ing kidding me, this is not needed anymore for the use of the industrial core considering we don't use bpos/bpcs for compressing ore anymore since you changed that to instant compression in pos' and citadels, and since we now have to put the Rorqual in the belt in order to get the boosts you could at least take this garbage off of the industrial core. There is no good reason to make the Rorqual stationary to use the industrial considering if we use the invulnerability we are stationary then for 5-7.5 mins. Seems like its one sided giving an unmoveable target for pvpers/gankers. Was totally onboard with everything til I read this s****y part. I really don't think you guys play this game at all at least not with the rest of us, you really don't seem to understand the players at all and considering the only ones you do listen to are the CSM's and pretty much all of them are pvpers from the big blocs' doesn't surprise me that most of the changes that do come out benefit them the most and not the small groups or solo players.

So you want ALL of the advantages and NONE of the drawbacks? Cry some more.

So you want ALL of the advantages and NONE of the drawbacks? Cry some more.

Drawback is putting a 3+ bil ship in the belt plus whatever other ships are fielded I still see no reason it should be made stationary for the indy core, just putting it in the belt is bad enough, plus your a goon so who cares what you think this is about the people who actually use these ships not the ones who shoot at them dufus