EVE Search - Solo PvP has died out....

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Solo PvP has died out....

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Linnth	Posted - 2007.03.22 06:49:00 - [1] I remember back in the days when I was roaming around by myself in low sec looking for someone to target. Every now and then I would find someone, and we would have a what's it called again? A one on one fight, where the best man/best fittings won. What happened to those days? The only pvp I get now is in blobs where fighting the lagg is harder than fighting the enemy ships!
Zirth Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:02:00 - [2] Edited by: Zirth on 22/03/2007 06:58:37 I know what you mean, it's still there but rare. Meaning the few fights that you get barely are good fights. There's some 0.4 systems where you can get nice 1on1s, but it's mostly 3 day old caracals. There was one week where I killed a dozen cruiser, logged on for 30min, found a fight, I swear, each time I ripped em apart (not in some battleship or anything), and didn't even bother to pod. I'd sit there for 5minutes after he died, and he hadn't even warped out the pod, I always checked info and it always said 3-5 days old. Left for 0.0 after that. But it's mostly just gate camps, or fleet battles when there's a war. So now I'm going back to lowsec to find some fights again, hopefully not 3day olds who's cargo combined are not worth the sec status hit of attacking a single player.
Linnth	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:21:00 - [3] We might run into each other some day :p
Dynast	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:26:00 - [4] Best places to go for 1v1's are probably the NPC station 0.0 regions.. Syndicate especially, but Stain and the rest to a lesser degree. Sure, there are gangs and bubbles, but you'll also find people who aren't with one of the blob alliances, and some of them will be up for a fight.
Alan Maher Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.22 07:58:00 - [5] If you want fights come to Hedaleolfarber in Molden Heath, talk about easy 1v1's
Sokratesz Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:53:00 - [6] Grab a reasonably fast ship and roam 0.0..plenty of small gangs / solo pvpers / npcers about...and with some skill and fitting sense you can outurn most gatecamps. Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
Mathias Orsen	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:57:00 - [7] I think it's just that more people know better than to just toss themselves openly into death. seriously, would you want to fight something that you knew would pop your ship without even giving you the chance to put up a fight? One of the major things that drove people out of solo PVP were jammers. It was no contest against them. Today we still see the result. That's my opinion anywho. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get"
mlove	Posted - 2007.03.25 01:45:00 - [8] I get 1 vs 1 fights all the time in a .4 i know of which is a dead end system with a .5 leading into it. No real bad pirates live there, only some ppl come to do alittle pvp once in awhile or mine. i love just waiting for the next guy who wants to fight come in
Misanth	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:09:00 - [9] I'm still dreaming of ever seeing this. Played since 2005 and only seen gang pvp, or camps, ever. Never ever a 1 vs 1. I tried to initiate a few but with all the means (speed, earlier wcs, etc) to get out of scrambling there's hardly any point. Wish all the stabilizers and speed boosts were removed, as well as warp to zero. And of course remove bubbles. All of it, now. If you're so afraid of dying in 0.0, bring friends. If not, expect to be jammed and to fight, fit for fight. Still enjoy this game but atm it's only the roaming-gang pvp or gate-busting that is fun. Refuse to retort to bubbling or camping myself. Currently we see these scenarios where I live, north: 1) Gate or station camps. 2) Lone recons (or the rare manticore bombers) that try to find the few miners that forget or don't care about defence. 3) Roaming gangs of approx' 10 people that jump in/out in hostile system and possibly get some kill. 4) Bubbling (generally dictors) of lone people trying to transport stuff/themselves up/down pipes. 5) The very rare fleet battles, usually the followup vengeance after some gatebust or station camp. In 0.0 south I generally saw: 1) Gate or station camps. 2) POS Warfare. 3) 30+ RA logging on/off and creating traps and/or using exploits. 4) 30+ Goons gatecamping and running off when any group of 15+ approached. 5) The AFK-guys in local, in every system, 24/7. No 1 vs 1. In theory everyone can escape from everything. The few players you manage to scramble or web or jam is usually caught unaware or is inexperienced. Where's the options for those that want to log in, pvp for a short while, log out? Where's the option for those that arn't in big alliances? Afaik devs work on ways to remove the blob/camps but I wonder if it'll go another 2 years before I see any real 1 vs 1 or at least some 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 in this game. It's still fun but would be alot more fun if it was viable to pvp in small gangs.
Spei Prodetor	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:11:00 - [10] i still solo alot... though tbh it really is rare to find 1v1 encounters without alot of risk involved so i end up with 1v5's and come out on top alot =)
mlove	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:22:00 - [11] Eve-mail me and i will give you or anyone a 1 vs 1 anytime. I love that stuff. As long as its 1 vs 1 no corp mates waiting on the gate to jump in. Just let me know when and i will tell you where.
Jak Silverheart Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:38:00 - [12] Make a crappy new character skill train it for a bit, and go pirating. YOu can usually find anyoene within 3months old being a nice good fair fight in belts. As for me this one im posting with has 813k sp and uses cheap T1 stuff and I can tell you I have had some of the best fights in the little rifters this character flys. In terms of being able to pirate anything you cant do that solo. It takes awhile to find a good target, but from my experience they hang out in the .4 systems near safe zones. Another good thing is that its easy to keep pirating with this kind of alt, i think I transfered a Total of bout 3mil and I have lost more ships than I can count and I still got some to spare. Just buy everything in bulk, including ships and transfer it all to your base of operations and fit them all, and your set. Originally by: Scordite Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
Humpalot	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:06:00 - [13] CCP needs some kind of stacking nerf on multiple ships targetting one ship. Maybe based on sig radius so (just as an example) up to 5 ships can target a frig, 7 ships a cruiser, 8 ships a battlecruiser, 10 ships a battleship. After that things go downhill fast for extra people trying to target the same ship and shoot it. Obviously things like a Titan needs to allow for 30 ships to target it with any hope of killing it. Anyway, don't get hung up on my numbers. They are just for illustration and whatever a good balance would be I am sure it could be found. This would reduce blob tactics and the ensuing lag and bring back what the OP wants which is small gang fights or maybe even 1v1 (although I think small gang fights were more fun...3v3, 5v5, 3v5...stuff like that).
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:12:00 - [14] HP changes and warp to zero. Getting backup is so easy these days. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:45:00 - [15] Only the most hardcore of sorts solo nowaday. I can't go without soloing... its half the fun tbh. If it wasn't for the solo thrill i wouldn't have as much fun as i do now.
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.25 04:04:00 - [16] Edited by: Wrayeth on 25/03/2007 04:01:24 I try to solo a lot, but most of the time I just end up facing forces I have to run away from or can't engage in the first place. Everyone has backup these days, and it's usually not just one other ship - it's more like five. EDIT: And the hitpoint changes did exactly what I thought they would and completely screwed solo PvP. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
Mortuus Minmatar Just-fun Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.25 05:58:00 - [17] Solo PvP exists for those willing to do it. Take a ship out, go looking for trouble. Solo PvP doesn't mean 1v1, and 1v1 at least for me is hardly fair anyway. I like it when its me vs 3-14 of them. Much more fun. My current Hurricane has been alive for over 2 weeks of constant combat and has 80+ kills to its name. You may love solo fights, just don't be stupid enough to expect your targets to agree with you. ex-Occassus Republica <3
tiberiusric	Posted - 2007.03.25 06:38:00 - [18] have to agree with op,finding solo pvp is harder than it used to be.
Ardan Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.25 10:49:00 - [19] I don't know, but I have been involved in solo PVP 2 times in the last 3 times I logged on. Got Jumped by a Malediction with t2 blasters last night while in my Rifter. Had him to half structure before my ship Popped. "Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula
Laboratus Gallente BGG Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.03.25 12:00:00 - [20] People have gotten smarter and no longer go alone in vulnerable ships. With the death of nanophoons, even they don't roam around anymore. The forum community hath all solo ships slayeth with teh forum whine. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.03.25 12:05:00 - [21] I only liked solo in nanophoons. Now i do it in a vaga but i cant break tanks. I use them as your fighting carebears whose defence is to blob (and you cant begrudge them that if you invading thier space) Now I dont really bother and just fly with corp mates. Still fun but not quite the same. O well hopefully im not playing eve as much :)
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.25 12:10:00 - [22] from a recent thread of mine it seems that it has not died out and many still do solo. yes there are a lot more 'blobs' out there than there used to be but u just have to be very cautious and not let it get to you when u get ganked, which will happen a lot probably. yes it's not like it was, but it hasn't died out DE
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.25 12:32:00 - [23] Originally by: Alan Maher If you want fights come to Hedaleolfarber in Molden Heath, talk about easy 1v1's The one time my corp went there, we were shooed out with a large group of pirate-killer civilians and a gatecamp that could make any pirate cry if he wasn't stabbed up, or in a frigate. We were in a group, though, but the feel of the place is blob heaven. Oh and thank you for posting the name, my corp was trying to pronounce it and we sounded like a bunch of buffoons, I couldn't remember the name of it. They've told me we're never going back, and I don't make destination suggestions anymore. ----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows. Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:14:00 - [24] I think there are a lot of reasons why solo fights are becoming rarer.... 1. Space is getting more crowded. EVE is growing, but space isn't (new regions mean little here). 2. As said WTZ means it doesn't take long for help to arrive, and extra HP means you may last until it does. 3. Most players moving around solo are NPC'ing, exploring, mining etc. They don't want to fight (and usually aren't equipped for it) 4. Recon ships generally PWN all other shiptypes in 1v1's. 5. The high cost of T2 items mean nobody really want to risk their ships, so group gankings become the norm. 6. The chokehold design of stargates encourage gate camps at the chokepoints. Solo people can often not move during prime time for this reason. ...and probably many more.... Personally I don't think there is a hell of a lot to do about it, unless these points (and others) are adressed, and I frankly don't see that happening within a reasonable timescale...... The two things which I think should be done to reduce the problems are: 1. Suddenly discover MANY new regions (double or triple the size of low-sec and 0.0).... 2. Reorganise the stargates so all the obvious chokepoints are removed. General advice: Stop whining!
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:16:00 - [25] oh man u all are so wrong ..solo pvp is alive and kicking well bit diferent those days .. cos u now need 3 chars to do it .........
Leandro Salazar Bravehearts Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:26:00 - [26] You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly. If you want solo ganks otoh, just suck it up and stop complaining about targets not wanting to get ganked calling in backup --------- There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Kestrel
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:45:00 - [27] Originally by: Leandro Salazar You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly. This is tempting. Fight club on TQ anybody? :D sgb
Famine Aligher'ri V i L e DREAD.	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:52:00 - [28] Originally by: smallgreenblur Originally by: Leandro Salazar You know, if you guys want real solo PvP, just meet somewhere and duke it out regularly. This is tempting. Fight club on TQ anybody? :D sgb You know it's not that solo pvp is dead. It's that it's so easy to kill your opponent if you know he is coming. It use to be hard to solo 3 years ago. Now it's easy to overpower people and think it's skill. V i L e - Recruiting Pirates
Brain Sweeper	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:00:00 - [29] Hmm... Its hard to speak about these things since im 4 months old player and havent seen a lot of action around. I got killed few times in the begining now usually i warp out before or beeing warp jamed in a booble. I have to say this if something isnt done concearing 0,0 or small pvping people will start leaving the game. Game is great but i feel like im paying for the same things as everybody and not gething the same things in return just like catle for butchering to BOBs and others. Old corps that have taken 0,0 space and with this war now u cant get even close to 0,0 especialy solo even ganged u cant break the gate camps. Mine and a lot of small corps HAVE TO play 0,4 - 0,1 or in empire and its getting VERY BOOOORING. No small pvp fights, no good npc to hunt, Gate camps everywhere especialy in 0,4 - towards 0,5 and all pipes that lead to 0,0. I dont know how was the game before but it is a lot unbalanced and the old players concearning to their 0,0 teritory have huge advantage in having FUN playing eve and on the other hand small corps dont have enough space to play. I know that i dont know sh.. about this game yet but thats the way i feel game is getting boring more and more. We need more 0,0 but not on some big alliance doors!
Kai Jyokoroi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:34:00 - [30] Originally by: Brain Sweeper Hmm... Its hard to speak about these things since im 4 months old player and havent seen a lot of action around. I got killed few times in the begining now usually i warp out before or beeing warp jamed in a booble. I have to say this if something isnt done concearing 0,0 or small pvping people will start leaving the game. Game is great but i feel like im paying for the same things as everybody and not gething the same things in return just like catle for butchering to BOBs and others. Old corps that have taken 0,0 space and with this war now u cant get even close to 0,0 especialy solo even ganged u cant break the gate camps. Mine and a lot of small corps HAVE TO play 0,4 - 0,1 or in empire and its getting VERY BOOOORING. No small pvp fights, no good npc to hunt, Gate camps everywhere especialy in 0,4 - towards 0,5 and all pipes that lead to 0,0. I dont know how was the game before but it is a lot unbalanced and the old players concearning to their 0,0 teritory have huge advantage in having FUN playing eve and on the other hand small corps dont have enough space to play. I know that i dont know sh.. about this game yet but thats the way i feel game is getting boring more and more. We need more 0,0 but not on some big alliance doors! Not true. I went out to 0.0 when I was 3 months old. The game hasn't changed THAT much since I was a noob. If you wanna take some 0.0 space, just man up, rally your corp, choose a system, and DO it. There's plenty of NPC space where people don't really go. I would recommend Esoteria - you get nice RISE spawns there, as well. _____________ WE ARE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS VOLTAGE OVER CURRENT.
DiuxDium Loot Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:45:00 - [31] Solo PvP is boring, and involved very little tactics, and a lot of spare time running from belt to belt, gate to gate, and station to station. Gang PvP is where it's at. I'll take a 5-10vs5-10 man death match any day above a dinky little 'I pwn your Caracal in my Vexor' crap. Quote: Also, he didnt even have a Scrambler, so the POS would have gotten away anyway.
Erala Strae	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:10:00 - [32] make dictor bubbles work in lowsec. but rly, i think part of the problem is there are too many people looking for "pirate" pvp. When that 3 day old noob comes into lowsec and dies everytime.. guess what? hes not gonna come back. they have to have many good experiences so that when they do get ganked they will still come back because they know that they can still make good isk. (i.e lure them better-er) so. just make lowsec 3 times as big. and i dont mean like a chain of them (big gatecamp at entrance of chain) - i mean MANY more hisec systems with 1-3 lowsec backsystems. and yes.. i know those can also have camps... but you cant camp them all. (or thats the point) i promise you that a gankable ship will fly through lowsec if there isnt a large chance of a gate camp. </rant>
Tulisin Dragonflame	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Erala Strae make dictor bubbles work in lowsec. but rly, i think part of the problem is there are too many people looking for "pirate" pvp. When that 3 day old noob comes into lowsec and dies everytime.. guess what? hes not gonna come back. they have to have many good experiences so that when they do get ganked they will still come back because they know that they can still make good isk. (i.e lure them better-er) so. just make lowsec 3 times as big. and i dont mean like a chain of them (big gatecamp at entrance of chain) - i mean MANY more hisec systems with 1-3 lowsec backsystems. and yes.. i know those can also have camps... but you cant camp them all. (or thats the point) i promise you that a gankable ship will fly through lowsec if there isnt a large chance of a gate camp. </rant> You're right that the RvR makes it so newbs don't wanna come back, but you're looking at the wrong side of the equation. The risk is about right, but the rewards as far as profit for moving to lowsec are just pitiful.
Erala Strae	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:36:00 - [34] Originally by: Tulisin Dragonflame Originally by: Erala Strae make dictor bubbles work in lowsec. but rly, i think part of the problem is there are too many people looking for "pirate" pvp. When that 3 day old noob comes into lowsec and dies everytime.. guess what? hes not gonna come back. they have to have many good experiences so that when they do get ganked they will still come back because they know that they can still make good isk. (i.e lure them better-er) so. just make lowsec 3 times as big. and i dont mean like a chain of them (big gatecamp at entrance of chain) - i mean MANY more hisec systems with 1-3 lowsec backsystems. and yes.. i know those can also have camps... but you cant camp them all. (or thats the point) i promise you that a gankable ship will fly through lowsec if there isnt a large chance of a gate camp. </rant> You're right that the RvR makes it so newbs don't wanna come back, but you're looking at the wrong side of the equation. The risk is about right, but the rewards as far as profit for moving to lowsec are just pitiful. ratting is not profitable (save for rarely dropped named mods), but i think a miner would see this differently. also i think stargates are at the heart of this somehow.
illusionary beauty	Posted - 2007.03.26 06:54:00 - [35] WCS make solo PvP lame. Especially for amarr pilots. Its hard enough tofit a point on an amarr ship let alone have 50% or more people just warp away from you.
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.03.26 07:08:00 - [36] Originally by: illusionary beauty WCS make solo PvP lame. Especially for amarr pilots. Its hard enough tofit a point on an amarr ship let alone have 50% or more people just warp away from you. People who have WCS fitted are usually NOT interested in fighting and are not fitted for it. If you attack such people (usually haulers), YOU are not looking to fight either, but are looking for easy kills. Grow a pair and stop hunting defenseless people.... General advice: Stop whining!
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:18:00 - [37] WCS really is not for combat, it takes off most of combat ability from just fitting one, yet yesterday I have seen one guy in cruiser with WCS fitted and npcing. ---
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:33:00 - [38] Originally by: n0thing WCS really is not for combat, it takes off most of combat ability from just fitting one, yet yesterday I have seen one guy in cruiser with WCS fitted and npcing. Maybe he just wanted to npc rather than get ganked? sgb
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.26 10:36:00 - [39] Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: illusionary beauty WCS make solo PvP lame. Especially for amarr pilots. Its hard enough tofit a point on an amarr ship let alone have 50% or more people just warp away from you. People who have WCS fitted are usually NOT interested in fighting and are not fitted for it. If you attack such people (usually haulers), YOU are not looking to fight either, but are looking for easy kills. Grow a pair and stop hunting defenseless people.... lol not so true. Last time I tried to pirate. With a friend of mine. We attacked 2 drakes 1 Raven 1 Dominix 1 hauler. The only one that did not have at least 2 stabs was the hauler :P Almost every ratter use at least 1 stab. But what I see is imense areas of low sec that are empty.. and all carnage happens at first 2 system deep. Don't know why ratters, miners and all non pirates just stop at the first place, instead of looking for a calmer place. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:09:00 - [40] Originally by: mlove I get 1 vs 1 fights all the time in a .4 i know of which is a dead end system with a .5 leading into it. No real bad pirates live there, only some ppl come to do alittle pvp once in awhile or mine. i love just waiting for the next guy who wants to fight come in Beware the low sec dead end systems if you like to pvp, because you could become stuck there with no way to move your assets out if your sec rating takes a nosedive You have been warned.
Meditril	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:16:00 - [41] I think there are two issues which make fighting so uninteresting at the moment: 1. This "you have to commit to a fight" philosophy. It is totally crap. It would be so cool to have the possibility to rush into a camp pick one weak target, shoot it down and run away. But this is not possible, since you can not cloak while targeted and using several WCS is not really possible if you want to fight. So if you run into a camp you have only two choices: Run away immediatelly (if you can) or die. The third possibility try to take down one target and then run away is not possible... and this one would be the most exciting one. So the result is: if you feel week, you run away and come back with your own blob if you want some pew pew. 2. Pirate bounty hunting is a crap. First thing: make peoples with a sec status of -1.0 killable everywhere, even in sec space. Second thing: Give pirate hunters more possibilites to locate a target. For example a pirate hunter should be able to inquire in every bounty office in the galaxy the last gate a pirate used and he should also get for example the information which ship has been used to pass the gate. This would give bounty hunters the opportunity to go for their targets, locate them and engage them... much more action for pirates and bounty hunters and much more interesting fights. Regards, Meditril
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:18:00 - [42] Get rid of gates. If players feel as though they can move with out getting owned at choke points, they're likely to be more willing to move around. The problem is the certainty of failure, not the certainty of success. -AS
Amitabh Bachchan	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Humpalot CCP needs some kind of stacking nerf on multiple ships targetting one ship. Maybe based on sig radius so (just as an example) up to 5 ships can target a frig, 7 ships a cruiser, 8 ships a battlecruiser, 10 ships a battleship. After that things go downhill fast for extra people trying to target the same ship and shoot it. What would happen is people would lock up targets a-z mass spam. The first 10 of the blob would hit the first bs, the next ten would hit the next bs and so on. If anything, it makes it a lot more dangerous to have a name called "Aaargh ImPrimary" or "ZtoA TargetPrimary".
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:58:00 - [44] new module -> BLOB - Ballistic Lock Out Bubble used like a siege module for dreads, but it'll give you 95% resist all over for 5 minutes in exchange for not being able to move or shoot. Nahhhh.... I'm kidding - solo pvp is not dead... I see many people all over flying mostly battlecruisers (the overpowered myrmidon), small T2 ships and sometimes battleships... Perhaps you are just in a region without many low sec people... - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing...
Okapir	Posted - 2007.03.26 11:59:00 - [45] As a noob I'd say the gates are a problem, (lack of incentive for travel to 0,0), I would say change the dynamics of the gate to make it less predictable where you turn up on the otherside... maybe so much so that a camp needs lots'n'lots of bubbles. I run frigs into gates routinely with an alt to recon the chance of making it through with my main. What kinda crap is that about? Sounds like a design fault to me! ______________________________________ I reserve the right to change my boss!
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:22:00 - [46] Originally by: Meditril I think there are two issues which make fighting so uninteresting at the moment: 1. This "you have to commit to a fight" philosophy. It is totally crap. It would be so cool to have the possibility to rush into a camp pick one weak target, shoot it down and run away. But this is not possible, since you can not cloak while targeted and using several WCS is not really possible if you want to fight. So if you run into a camp you have only two choices: Run away immediatelly (if you can) or die. The third possibility try to take down one target and then run away is not possible... and this one would be the most exciting one. So the result is: if you feel week, you run away and come back with your own blob if you want some pew pew. Part of the problem with that is that blobing or grouping up is the best tactic. Eve combat more closly resembles 18th century tactics than whatever year Eve is supposed to represent. Jump gates are the biggest contributor to this, they force people into the same spaces, the same grid. If players were encouraged to spread out and seek out combat, 1v1 would be more common again, smaller ships would be more useful. There are 5000 systems and 70% of the players seem to be cramed into about a 1/4th of the systems. The only way to break out, in any signifcant way, is to storm the castle gatehouse. -AS
Jas Dor Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Linnth I remember back in the days when I was roaming around by myself in low sec looking for someone to target. Every now and then I would find someone, and we would have a what's it called again? A one on one fight, where the best man/best fittings won. What happened to those days? The only pvp I get now is in blobs where fighting the lagg is harder than fighting the enemy ships! The pirates started blobbing so everyone else did to. The norm in low sec now is one guy hunting and two in backup one system over ready to jump in. If the hunter runs into something he can't handle the backup ships jump in. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU!
Jovialmadness	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:33:00 - [48] Why NOS Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:45:00 - [49] Edited by: n0thing on 26/03/2007 16:43:51 Originally by: Jovialmadness Why Useless whining fixed edit: Like someone said above, nos being great find for an excuse to being shot down. If there will decission that nos needs fixing, it will still be used, just in new shape. If not, learn to counter it with your skills and tactics. ---
Durindana Gallente Solar Wind Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:50:00 - [50] Edited by: Durindana on 26/03/2007 16:47:33 I sat in the only asteroid belt in Ostingele (lowsec in Placid) the other day for what must have been 2 hours, at first just waiting and finally asking in local for someone to aggress me. (This is in a Jaguar, there must have been 15 people in local) The only taker was a Muninn who couldn't catch me, and didn't come back with a tackler like I asked him to. So I went to the nearest 0.0 access point and got ganked in a gatecamp. Yay.
Jas Dor Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:51:00 - [51] Originally by: Jovialmadness Why NOS Pirates don't want to loose their leet T2 ships. But yeah I can count a number of times I've been alone or in a small group, we've got the pirate into structure then help arrives. If you're killing one Myrm and two more are bound to jump in the only logical thing to do is get a bigger group to kill the jump in (and yes I know that a Myrm is not a T2 ship). But hey what do I know, I only live in low sec and see what's going on, on a daily basis. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU!
Jovialmadness	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:51:00 - [52] n0thing, i use nos too...im just stating a fact. Anytime you go out even in small groups, the screen is covered with red lines. The days of skill controlling fight outcomes is coming to an end. Now its, "well i was kicking all of their a$$es until i ran out of cap booster charges and cap. Quote: As a side note, i liken capacitor to blood. Without blood, nothing can function in the body. I do NOT like being a race that bleeds quicker than anyone else. yes, i am an alt..Jovial Quote:
Pilgrippa 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.26 17:05:00 - [53] Solo PVP isn't dead, but it's on life support. Warp to 0 and logoff tactics have reduced it to almost a mockery. Now you have to really hang yourself out there if you want good fights. Engaging small to medium gate camps is still usually pretty fun. Also, with force recons around, it's a lot easier to get trapped than before :P Solo is still a rush tho, and my favourite kind of PVP. Hopefully it doesn't get worse!
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.26 17:08:00 - [54] Originally by: Jovialmadness n0thing, i use nos too...im just stating a fact. Anytime you go out even in small groups, the screen is covered with red lines. The days of skill controlling fight outcomes is coming to an end. Now its, "well i was kicking all of their a$$es until i ran out of cap booster charges and cap. Agree, but capacitor is pretty much the heart of any ship, till you have it, you got chance to live p.s. Well warp to 0 imo doesnt do much, in 0.0, 90% of pilots had bookmarks to fly there I assume. ---
Adrian Kerensky Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:39:00 - [55] Last 1v1 I was in was dishonoured when the guy started loosing and I was ganked by a blob. EVE has changed I'm sad to say. Honour and reputation counts for nothing anymore it seems. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil 258 bytes over!
Tarron Sarek Gallente Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.26 23:54:00 - [56] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain HP changes and warp to zero. Getting backup is so easy these days. So this means omgwtfbbqing is harder than it used to be. It applies mostly to people who don't want hard fights, just own. They would've fled if facing too much opposition, and they still flee. But now you can only omgwtfbbq in groups, so they bring friends. Result remains the same. No real change, except regarding the few brave 1v1 PvP'ers I feel sorry for. To sum it up: The HP change affects formerly short fights, which I don't see directly related to hard and thrilling 1v1 PvP. It makes slaughtering your opponent harder. It's less space CS. So what? ___________________________________ _/_/ "The sky is the sky wherever you go" _/_/
Blitzkrieg Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:10:00 - [57] They should create a pvp arena, restricting number-class of ships, 1vs1, 5vs5, 10vs10. Create a gambling system so we could make it fun and profitable I can't beleive i writing this as it looks like some WOW battleground idea. But after living 3yrs in 0.0, im getting tired of the fleet fight or the hapless ganking at gates.
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.27 02:09:00 - [58] nanophoons made eve fun again. i didn't fly them but i flew along side them, and it was alot of simply because they made the gang highly mobile and gave good damage and could get out of some horrendous situations. ------------------------------------- Am Orbitin' ur ship! Gettin' nossed!
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.03.27 05:54:00 - [59] Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: illusionary beauty WCS make solo PvP lame. Especially for amarr pilots. Its hard enough tofit a point on an amarr ship let alone have 50% or more people just warp away from you. People who have WCS fitted are usually NOT interested in fighting and are not fitted for it. If you attack such people (usually haulers), YOU are not looking to fight either, but are looking for easy kills. Grow a pair and stop hunting defenseless people.... Uh, what? So you're saying flying a hauler or using WCS is a PvE-only flag, and people should respect that? I guess people who use 7.5k scrams need to carry ship scanners too--after all, they don't want to accidentally scramble somebody who is PvE-only just because they're carrying two points. Or perhaps a polite convo would be in order? "Pardon me sir, I couldn't help but notice you ratting at belt 4-6, and I was considering an attempt to blow your ship to kindom come, but I was concerned you might not have signed the PvP release form?..." Stepping into <.5 is waving a PvP-flag a mile high, and people should respect THAT. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
n0thing Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.27 09:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Adrian Kerensky Last 1v1 I was in was dishonoured when the guy started loosing and I was ganked by a blob. EVE has changed I'm sad to say. Honour and reputation counts for nothing anymore it seems. Make sure you never accept 1v1 from the corp or alliance you dont know about, i.e. you dont know if they honor 1v1`s or not. Honor has always been an optional thing ---

Pages: 1 2 3 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.