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Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:14:00 - [1] CCP, have you ever thought of having some sort of veteran rewards for active pilots? I saw this thing on EQ2 where veteran players get a special title or equal after a certain amount of time with having an active account. I thought that was a rather smart way of rewarding players and it doesn't have any significant impact on the game (compared to if you where given some special item). Or maybe this would be something to add when you roll out that "medals and stuff" thing found on the drawingboard? Help me help you .

Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:15:00 - [2] I think that would be kind of cool although being a multi-billionare is cool as well -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.
The Slayer Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:17:00 - [3] I always thought some sort of accumulative total would be cool for mission runners (note : not a mission runner), with a title or something when you hit a high level. But I think making it based on play time would probably be better.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:29:00 - [4] There's already a reward for playing Eve for a long time - lots of skill points! Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:31:00 - [5] Isn't a Titan wreck enough? Being a man I still can achieve multiple sarcasms.
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:33:00 - [6] Originally by: Rodj Blake There's already a reward for playing Eve for a long time - lots of skill points! Beat me too it.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:37:00 - [7] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 22/03/2007 10:34:27 As long the reward is insignificant in terms of gameplay I can accept this. Else, the reward for veterans lies in the number of SP. Elder player = more skillpoints. Everything else will imbalance the game. So im afraid there wont be named "Veldspar" t2 modular mining turrets for you! Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
Juneau Vespertine Minmatar CompleXion Industries	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:45:00 - [8] It'd have to be something that doesn't give players any real powers, or if they do, then very limited and not worth much. Veteran rewards in original EverQuest got to the point where they could make or break guild ("corp", whatever) progression, and in some cases had a huge impact on what a group of people were able to do. Had Sony not nerfed them this month, guilds would have reached a point where a certain veteran reward would be required for a person's application to be accepted. That nerf caused a massive uproar that's still going on right now. Having spent a long time as a top-end logistics leader in that game, I saw their impact first-hand. Sony gave everyone a series of abilities that could be used every so often, with unique effects. One of them, the final reward, was extremely overpowered, but so few people had it that the devs didn't notice until much, much later, and they had to nerf it this month accordingly. Countless people warned the developers about it, but their horrible track record for listening to players meant that they didn't notice until two expansions after it started allowing guilds to beat new content pretty much effortlessly. The same problem also occurred with another of the veteran rewards with regards to small-group content, but since it's one of the easier vet rewards to get, Sony ignored trying to balance it under the assumption that everyone has it. That's a terrible way to "balance" content, and will probably need a nerf of its own at some point too, which will cause another uproar since it's been a crutch for years now. There's a lot of good things CCP could do with veteran rewards, if they're implemented carefully and with the long-term in mind. If they aren't, there's a lot of bad things that could come with them.
Xaroth Brook Minmatar Doomcraft	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:46:00 - [9] A 10 day old account can have a character 4 years old... so I'd suggest basing it on account age, rather than character age. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Xaroth Brook [Datacore - Quantum Physics] x 40
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 10:58:00 - [10] So flying the only dread in Empire space is not enough for you? I got it "Sir Chribba of Veld" That kinda has a ring to it, kinda catchy..... Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
RaTTuS BIG Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:05:00 - [11] after X number of SP you should get a free Character morph into a Jove -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal \| RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Juneau Vespertine It'd have to be something that doesn't give players any real powers, or if they do, then very limited and not worth much. Veteran rewards in original EverQuest got to the point where they could make or break guild ("corp", whatever) progression, and in some cases had a huge impact on what a group of people were able to do. Had Sony not nerfed them this month, guilds would have reached a point where a certain veteran reward would be required for a person's application to be accepted. That nerf caused a massive uproar that's still going on right now. Having spent a long time as a top-end logistics leader in that game, I saw their impact first-hand. Sony gave everyone a series of abilities that could be used every so often, with unique effects. One of them, the final reward, was extremely overpowered, but so few people had it that the devs didn't notice until much, much later, and they had to nerf it this month accordingly. Countless people warned the developers about it, but their horrible track record for listening to players meant that they didn't notice until two expansions after it started allowing guilds to beat new content pretty much effortlessly. The same problem also occurred with another of the veteran rewards with regards to small-group content, but since it's one of the easier vet rewards to get, Sony ignored trying to balance it under the assumption that everyone has it. That's a terrible way to "balance" content, and will probably need a nerf of its own at some point too, which will cause another uproar since it's been a crutch for years now. There's a lot of good things CCP could do with veteran rewards, if they're implemented carefully and with the long-term in mind. If they aren't, there's a lot of bad things that could come with them. QFE Vet rewards are a bad bad idea!! After playing Star Wars Galaxies for 2 years, the meaning of failure has become very very clear to me... Either the rewards have no effect (causes hardcore players to cry) else they got too much effect (causes new players to cry), EVE is such a great game for rewarding players for what they do, nothing comes free, thats how it should be!
Kehmor Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:10:00 - [13] Originally by: RaTTuS after X number of SP you should get a free Character morph into a Jove prehaps some sort of system whereby you have 5 skills you need to train to level 5 to unlock your jove char, but you dont know what they are!

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker So im afraid there wont be named "Veldspar" t2 modular mining turrets for you! Are you proud of yourself? You just made Chribba cry! As far as I know we don't have any plans for veteran rewards at the moment though. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:21:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Wrangler As far as I know we don't have any plans for veteran rewards at the moment though. Well you should!
meowmixmeow Black Eclipse Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Alexis Machine Originally by: CCP Wrangler As far as I know we don't have any plans for veteran rewards at the moment though. Well you should! ALEXIS FOR GM! --- ___ BANG! ___
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.22 11:46:00 - [17] How about a discount on subscription for characters who have been playing for 5 years straight? When the EVE 5th b-day rolls around that is. F4T4L - Recruitment
Alexis Machine Minmatar Ceraphite Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:04:00 - [18] Originally by: meowmixmeow ALEXIS FOR GM! ha! I'd shoot myself.
Siri Blue Gallente Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:26:00 - [19] When we are talking about veteran player rewards... I'm not THAT old yet...but points to her 10.00 Corp and faction standings I'd like a perk for that! I have hopes this will be considered when ranks and stuff for factional warfare are being entered...but then again... I'm still waiting for my NPC navy Battleship honour excort when flying through gallente low sec
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:28:00 - [20] give them different coloured ships so we know who got the skillpoints in the gang.
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Direct Intent	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Roshan longshot So flying the only dread in Empire space is not enough for you? I got it "Sir Chribba of Veld" That kinda has a ring to it, kinda catchy..... Uhm ... there's quite a bit more than one capship in Empire highsec space. Chribba's Veldnaught just happens to be the most well-known, as it is the only one I know of that can't reach any other cynoable system, and he mines with it ;)
Harisdrop Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:30:00 - [22] Its called your employment history. Where everyone can see the life you led. I say we dont need immature tittles or self titles. Those are only earned for the actions you take ingame. Look at sec level and faction standings. These are the rewards we must strive for.
Joebarchuck	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:34:00 - [23] Yes, that is a great idea: I say for accounts older than 2 years, free Titans Tech II fitted with Tech V modules....
Dee Vour	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:52:00 - [24] i'm only a 6 months old player and i really don't understand the need for public gratification, though i understand the need for recognition by peers. i totally disagree with the idea of awarding signs of achievements because imho EVE is a world which, just like real life, doesn't pat you on the back when you do good, nor does it produces medals out of thin air for the braves and vertuous. to get to where you guys are takes a lot of hard work! how many fully fitted boats have you lost? how many set backs? and yet,there you are now years older and still kicking. isn't that testimony enough for how special you are? aren't excellent standings good enough? compared with 2 year old players i'm like an insect but the same applies to younger players compared to me. my SP and gear speaks volumes enough as to what i am capable of and for where i stand in the food chain.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.22 12:53:00 - [25] Originally by: RaTTuS after X number of SP you should get a free Character morph into a Jove Screw skillpoints, that'd only mean caldari goes jove. My 28 charisma ain't helping me there, my 306 days playing EVE on the other hand. King Nooblar le Jove, has a nice ring to it. Also Known As
OverKill Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:00:00 - [26] - Looks at his 50m skillpoints - CHECK - Look at his characters Birth Date - CHECK Bring the bling!!! - Building With Tomorrow's Technology, Today! Hadean Drive Yards
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes The OSS	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:09:00 - [27] Stay away from vet awards imo, it tends to divide the community. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. My Top 10 List
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:10:00 - [28] Originally by: DrAtomic Stay away from vet awards imo, it tends to divide the community. The community is already divided, the cheaters and the rest of us. Also Known As
Haloe Yakuza Corp	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:10:00 - [29] Originally by: OverKill - Looks at his 50m skillpoints - CHECK - Look at his characters Birth Date - CHECK Bring the bling!!! - Oooh that guy with the glowing gold title above his ship is primary... again. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Motorcycle Emptiness	Posted - 2007.03.22 13:12:00 - [30] Originally by: Dee Vour i'm only a 6 months old player and i really don't understand the need for public gratification, though i understand the need for recognition by peers. Pubic gratification is a basic human need, from the dawn of...oh, you said public. must not press enter.

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