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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:45:00 -
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why is that stupid server so much ofline.... most ppl are paying for the game, at least they can expect a nice running server that isnt down al the time. cant you guys test the patch on a special developing server or somthing like that before patching the pub.server?
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Baleorg on 22/03/2007 12:42:49
troll
daily downtime
we had a patch, still aftereffects, its only 1-2 hours
grow up
kthxbye can i have your remaining civilian laser?
and testserver is a small version of tq, you cant test every aspect compared 35k users against 100
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:47:00 -
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thats mi opinion... im sure some ppl would agree with me
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:50:00 -
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sure. have fun trying to find an ONLINE game with no downtime ^^
BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner |
Xianne Doroux
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:50:00 -
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I agree. Downtime just extended to 13:30. 
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:53:00 -
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better longer downtime and smooth gameplay afterwards.. :)
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Oritar
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:54:00 -
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FLAME ON! 
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:54:00 -
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1 hour a day? is 7 hours a week, i dont think all online games(payed)are 1 hour a day(or more) ofline with time extension cuz of startup problems or other things
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Xianne Doroux
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Lukas Rox
better longer downtime and smooth gameplay afterwards.. :)
You don't believe in that even by yourself. Just admit it. It just a thing we have to live up with, and whine some while doing so.
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:57:00 -
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It's not just the 8 hours i've been robbed of this week alone. It's that this bull**** always happens right in the core playing time for us non-american's. I'm sick of this elitism, if you are going to take money from all over the world then support the paying punters. Like most established online games - provide a server for other regions with their own downtimes during the day which has minimal impact to core playing hours.
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xianne Doroux
You don't believe in that even by yourself. Just admit it. It just a thing we have to live up with, and whine some while doing so.
Believe - not. But I still have some hope left ... devs will fix it... eventually.
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Xianne Doroux
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:00:00 -
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Change the DT to 02:00 GMT so that I could just sleep over it.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:02:00 -
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RABBLE ^^
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Martin Silenius
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:03:00 -
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Not all of us are from US - so this down time affects us greatly.
Then again - Im new here and will give devs benefit of doubt and belive this is just due to new patch and not every day rutine.
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:04:00 -
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DT is extended... how surprising...
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Xianne Doroux
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Xianne Doroux on 22/03/2007 13:01:37
Originally by: Martin Silenius
Im new here and will give devs benefit of doubt and belive this is just due to new patch and not every day rutine.
Not everyday problem, but every patchday - and few days afterwards - problem certainly.
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Silenius
Not all of us are from US - so this down time affects us greatly.
Then again - Im new here and will give devs benefit of doubt and belive this is just due to new patch and not every day rutine.
i hope so...., cuz its a great game, but the patching is just f***ed up
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Norcuron
Caldari
Community for Justice
G.U.A.R.D.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:07:00 -
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I think that downtimes are necessary to keep the game smooth and running. Even a 1 hour downtime every day is acceptable.
BUT not this "unannounced" extended downtime crap that somehow seams quite usual lately.
The day before yesterday, we had one cause of hardware issues.(something that couldn¦t wait one more day, till the announced extended downtime.
Not only do we lose time to play and skill time but CCP¦s answer to a request to reimburse skill time loss is basically to "***k off". (synopsis of what i was told by a GM)
Somehow we come to pay for about 20 hours of possible gaming, if you add all downtimes and sudden serverdowns over time.
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Filthy Animal
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Filthy Animal on 22/03/2007 13:05:53
Is it me or is the server still down? The rest of the intertubes seems ok... just cant see eve server
EDIT: NM just seen the 13:30 message
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Scratchitt
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xianne Doroux
Change the DT to 02:00 GMT so that I could just sleep over it.
Presuming that the servers are Iceland-based, I wonder how many software engineers of real quality are going to sign up for a job which requires them to work every day of the year at 2.00 a.m.
Or how many US customers would enrol in a game that went down mid-evening every day.
If we all want to play in the same universe then this is not a bad compromise.
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Jadice Dreamshifter
Gallente
The New Genesis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:10:00 -
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I actually don't really care that once a week there are startup issues and it takes about 1-2 hours more than the normal 1 hour DT, there's other things to do in RL, but this is really getting annoying, there have been such problems every single day of this week... Monday with the "preparation for the patch", Tuesday for the actual patch (+1 hour extended aside from the 5 or 6), yesterday i don't know, wasn't home, today again an extra 1.5 hour, or maybe more.
It's not a wasted skill training issue or "OMG i have 1 hour less to play today!", not at all, it's just a feeling of disrespect. The game is what, 4 years old, and such problems still have the chance to pop up 3,4 days in a row? Meh....
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:10:00 -
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I think just a few more extended or unscheduled DT and CCP should compensate it somehow... May be a few donation lvl5 skill. My choice is battleship lvl5 and cruise missile lvl5. Remember this CCP... 
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Corrupting Needs
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mehnaahmehnaah
...always happens right in the core playing time for us non-american's. I'm sick of this elitism,...
The CCP HQ is in Iceland, the server clusters are far from the U.S., but thanks for blindly flaming.
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lukas Rox on 22/03/2007 13:10:05
A one or two day extra playtime compensation would be great, but after all... 2 days of income from 120000 active subscribers is $ 119600. I don't think any company would agree to giving out 120k bucks to people, just because they screw something up. They will rather pay for double shifts to their employees.
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Daz Albion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:13:00 -
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Yes its very frustrating,this is quality play time for me around this hour,but I am starting to get annoyed by the daily downtime,but what can you do about it :/
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Scratchitt
Or how many US customers would enrol in a game that went down mid-evening every day.
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lukas Rox
Edited by: Lukas Rox on 22/03/2007 13:09:12
A one or two day extra playtime compensation would be great, but after all... 2 days of income from 120000 active subscribers is $ 119600. I don't think any company would agree to giving out 120k bucks to people, just because they crew something up. They will rather pay for double shifts to their employees.
I didn't said to compansion by days or by cash... 
I think a few skills would be usable for me and a lot of ppl 
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Corrupting Needs
Originally by: Mehnaahmehnaah
...always happens right in the core playing time for us non-american's. I'm sick of this elitism,...
The CCP HQ is in Iceland, the server clusters are far from the U.S., but thanks for blindly flaming.
Nice one... doesnt matter where they are based, its the time they choose to do the maintenance.... but thanks for blindly flaming.
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Lukas Rox
Torchwood Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:16:00 -
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Quote:
I didn't said to compansion by days or by cash... :)
Insta skill training to level 5 is a bit much, but an insta skill that would normally take 1 or 2 days... That would be doable :)
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Drakar Verge
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:17:00 -
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Do you remember that thing called EULA that you scrolled thru and hit okay without reading any of it? CCP wont be giving anyone anything, anytime soon
But I've played player ran shards on ultima online, so this is nothing to cry about 
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Archon Tor
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Corrupting Needs
Originally by: Mehnaahmehnaah
...always happens right in the core playing time for us non-american's. I'm sick of this elitism,...
The CCP HQ is in Iceland, the server clusters are far from the U.S., but thanks for blindly flaming.
How the frack is that relevent...
Quote:
CCP Games is searching for producers, programmers, artists, animation directors, testers and sound designers for creative game development. The company is hiring for positions in Atlanta, Georgia; Shanghai, China and to enhance the team for our headquarters in Reykjavik, Iceland.
Is it really too much to expect that the d/t could rotate during the week so the same group of people aren't flogged continually day after day week after week. CCP has three offices in three different time zones and in most cases all of the server maintenance could be done remotely. Wake up and join the 20th Century.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Lukas Rox
Quote:
I didn't said to compansion by days or by cash... :)
Insta skill training to level 5 is a bit much, but an insta skill that would normally take 1 or 2 days... That would be doable :)
no.. ppl even WHINE when they get free skills, i remember some threads months ago shortly after they raised the beginner cap to 800k and gave free skills
"wtf?! my alt that never trianed in any gunner skills has now gunner IV wtf?????"
you cant please "em" anyway, even IF you give em a skill, they will moan "its the wrong one!!!"
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The Jackyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Baleorg
sure. have fun trying to find an ONLINE game with no downtime ^^
They indeed do exist.
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:20:00 -
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oke 3 min.... lets hope for the best :P
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: Geee69 on 22/03/2007 13:21:12
I think it isn't too much. Just enough...
btw I think the most painful think is we talking about these DTs a lot in these day (nowadays there are a lot of unsceduled / extended DT) and I haven't read any post from any dev or tech or affected ppl in these threads who said at least "sorry ppl we we failed" or whatever... Or just I missed something?
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: The Jackyl
Originally by: Baleorg
sure. have fun trying to find an ONLINE game with no downtime ^^
They indeed do exist.
i dont think so, every game sooner or later will have issues
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:26:00 -
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jay 10min extended..... and after that another 10min countdown so 20min
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Jadice Dreamshifter
Gallente
The New Genesis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:27:00 -
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just... magnificent
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:27:00 -
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Well...dang...
That was rather fun watching the "Starting Up (5 Seconds)" repeat over and over.
Guess it wont be till 14:00 now...heh.
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Tom Shandy
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:28:00 -
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Mummy Mummy i want it now !!!
WOW >>> that way dude.
the server NEEDS downtime everyday, i realise youdont understand this, but it does.
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Daz Albion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Baleorg
Originally by: The Jackyl
Originally by: Baleorg
sure. have fun trying to find an ONLINE game with no downtime ^^
They indeed do exist.
i dont think so, every game sooner or later will have issues
None I have played have had as much downtime in a week than this game,I have played 5 MMORPGS and hate to admit this is the worst for DT.
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:29:00 -
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Go do something. i bet if we arent all watching it then it will work...
Kinda like that singing frog cartoon. You watch it..nada. You look away..presto.
So..lets all try that (Afterall..what else is there to do right now?)
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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heheheh
Singularity.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:29:00 -
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why is waiting a while for something you love bad ?
kids lack patience nowadays.
If you dont like waiting no need to tell us about it, tell your mum.
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:29:00 -
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Daz...4..year old gaming...still going strong. Give it some slack sheesh
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Shandy
Mummy Mummy i want it now !!!
WOW >>> that way dude.
the server NEEDS downtime everyday, i realise you dont understand this, but it does.
Would the server like cookies and milk and a backrub too.... what are you on about
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Daz Albion
None I have played have had as much downtime in a week than this game,I have played 5 MMORPGS and hate to admit this is the worst for DT.
please compare downtimes on patchday then,plz :-P
you keep forgetting that there was a huge patchdeployment that didnt go that well this time (last time went oversmooth though)
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Daz Albion
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vactet
Daz...4..year old gaming...still going strong. Give it some slack sheesh
I was just pointing something out to the person who posted that :)
I am a little annoyed as I have to fetch my kids in a hour and a half,so missed out on a few hours of blissful uninterupted gaming ;p
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heheheh
Singularity.
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mehnaahmehnaah
Originally by: Tom Shandy
Mummy Mummy i want it now !!!
WOW >>> that way dude.
the server NEEDS downtime everyday, i realise you dont understand this, but it does.
Would the server like cookies and milk and a backrub too.... what are you on about
learn to read, the server NEEDS downtime.
If it doesnt get it, we lag out and crash,
then you would cry to your mum even more.
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Toltec Suneater
Lucky Hydra Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Toltec Suneater on 22/03/2007 13:34:33
*sigh*
When will you complainers get it?
Did you actually read the EULA?
No, neither did I, but rest assured, you agreed to all you are complaining about.
Suck it up.
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:36:00 -
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wel if it NEEDS it why dont say in anounche: the server needs some rest so DT from ..... to ....
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OMG Celizatis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:38:00 -
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To the people who think that most servers don't have downtime every day.... I laugh at you. If you have EVER worked on a busy server, you know that the server has to go down at some point in the day to fix problems that will pop up during use by thousands of connection. EVE is the single largest game server in the WORLD. Problems can be expected because of the sheer number of people who use this. And just as a note, DT is scheduled for when the fewest people are online every day, to try and minimize who its hurts. Its not just based on the US. And the company isn't US based either, so thats not the problem. And you also have to remember, if you have DT rotating, the server admins have to start rotating THEIR schedule, and thats hard on them.
Yes, I understand that having DT while you play is a royal pain, and I feel sorry for you, but there is only so many ways that they can work DT that won't have EVERYONE (and the staff) *****ing instead of just a small number of people.
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:47:00 -
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jay another freaking 30 min (20min extension+ 10min startup)
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Darthirishguy
Caldari
Unknown-Heroes
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:47:00 -
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Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:47:00 -
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CCP needs to change theier stuff somebodeis who know what he is doing...
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: heheheh
learn to read
Yes you should. My point of contention was not that the servers require patching/reboots etc but that CCP with the gobs of money they accept from non US base players persist with the interruptions to core playing time for these regions. If you add up patch delays and non patch delays and work out how much they consume of actual playing time versus a total days worth then I feel justified in my complaint.
Oh and my mum says Hi.
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Kerneld Bathezid
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:48:00 -
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Rebooting the server cluster once a day to me means that the game architecture is fragile. Why couldn't we have a reboot every other day? Or maybe a 2 hour reboot once a week? Will the game hold up for 7 days? Will the database get so cluttered and un-optimized that it will run like a windows OS that has been up for 20 days (ie. super-decayed performance).
If it really can't last more than 24 hours with a reboot to clean things up CCP has some serious design issues to fix. If the reboot isn't about optimizing performance then moving to a weekly reboot doesnt seem like too much to ask. I'm in the US and am asleep during the time so I'm not bothered 99% of the time (except i got up real early to play today--for once--and I guess I didn't pick the right day). If I were in Europe, especially on Saturday or Sunday, I would NOT BE HAPPY to see a mid-day interuption.
And by the way, most other high-end MMO's do not to daily reboots. They can frequently go for weeks between reboots (or player booting "dinner breaks" if you dont want to call it a reboot). Daily reboots should not be accpetable in a 4 year old game that touts having a far more advanced architecture than other MMOs.
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Drakar Verge
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:49:00 -
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hrm.. you make me want to go fix some of my sweet potato pancakes
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Donzine on 22/03/2007 13:45:50
3 hours DT......
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hackjack
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:51:00 -
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You noobies never had it so good... any vets rember rmr patch 6 weeks of hell
and know CCP don't close the forums down when the sever is down ... becuase uses stop people moaning all the time...
and eve knows even keeps you up to date what is going on front page of the client ..........
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OMG Celizatis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Geee69
CCP needs to change theier stuff somebodeis who know what he is doing...
Right, and your vast knowledge of -what- makes you the person to decide this?
Like someone above this said, EVE is running on 1 server, most servers, if a single server is down, the world is shunted onto another server, and you never notice. The server for EVE is so large its not financially feasible to run a 2nd copy of the full server. So when something goes wrong, which happens a LOT after patches (you may claim its not so, but I remember patches on a LOT of games, and this is pretty standard), you tend to have some problems getting things started or working right for the first week. After that it calms down and works until the next patch.
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Scratchitt
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: The Jackyl
Originally by: Scratchitt
Originally by: The Jackyl
/1 box Kellog's Blueberry Eggo waffles + 1 toaster. :P
I think you need something that will take up more time than that. 
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Aaeko
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:55:00 -
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Okay everytiem i come and have a look here people are *****ing about downtime and for CCP to change the time of the DT's well heres a few things for you guys
1) You expect the Dev team to wake up at 3/4 in the morning just to go to work and do the DT i think not which is why they do it at 11am its the middile of the day for them. doing it at like 2am gmt would not solve any problems just makes every one over in the states ***** and moan about having Dt in their prime time gaming.
2) If you don't like the god damned downtime stop bloody *****ing about it. and stop playing. im sure you can find a game thats equally as good and addictive as EVE.
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Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:55:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Donzine
Edited by: Donzine on 22/03/2007 13:45:50
3 hours DT......
yes.. and keep forgetting the recent big patch deployment.. all to inconvient to remind eh?
RABBLE
please cancel now, there wil lalways be downtime... even 12 hours here and then
you wont survive that
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Archon Tor
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Baleorg
Originally by: Donzine
Edited by: Donzine on 22/03/2007 13:45:50
3 hours DT......
yes.. and keep forgetting the recent big patch deployment.. all to inconvient to remind eh?
RABBLE
please cancel now, there wil lalways be downtime... even 12 hours here and then
you wont survive that
I think CCP has already received your resume. No need to get your nose any browner.
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:57:00 -
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14:00 startup time now...
6 minutes to go...
me thinking we arent going to make it...again
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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OMG Celizatis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: OMG Celizatis on 22/03/2007 13:55:08
I should also point out that, in games like WoW... a patch meant 2-5 hours of ATTEMPTING to log in after every change, and that they took the server down at random times during the week afterwards to make adjustments (I remember 2 patches in the 1 month that I played that had that result).
FFXI, a patch meant that some servers would randomly crash for a few days afterwards.
DAoC, a patch meant that the game tended to lag for a few days until things were optimized.
And for the person who said Eve is fragile.... Yes. It is. Nobody else has every done anything like Eve. Other MMO's can be more stable with server updates because they run a load of 1500 people on average per server, with rarely more than 2000 playing. And that causes lag. Most servers can't handle more than 3000. EVE is now running 30,000 for most of a day. If lots of MMO's were running the same way, this might not be a problem. But as for now, there isn't any big list of problems for running a massive game server like this, no big list of tips and tricks to keep it working 24 hours a day for months. Its one group of people who have to take and solve problems as they occur.
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Aaeko
Okay everytiem i come and have a look here people are *****ing about downtime and for CCP to change the time of the DT's well heres a few things for you guys
1) You expect the Dev team to wake up at 3/4 in the morning just to go to work and do the DT i think not which is why they do it at 11am its the middile of the day for them. doing it at like 2am gmt would not solve any problems just makes every one over in the states ***** and moan about having Dt in their prime time gaming.
2) If you don't like the god damned downtime stop bloody *****ing about it. and stop playing. im sure you can find a game thats equally as good and addictive as EVE.
I don't pay my subscription to keep 4 devs happy. I pay it so I can play this game because it IS brilliant.
It's people taking the attitude of point 2 above that keeps idiots like EA in business.
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FrezZzer
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Posted - 2007.03.22 13:59:00 -
[68]
Its very hard to find an online payment game with out downtimes. Ofc there will be tech. issues after a patch.
EvE Online is the game with the most problems with extended downtimes. Haven't seen anything like this in any other game. As a user of EvE for abit over 2 years. You just know that you don't let a skill run out around downtime or and patch days. You pick a skill and get your self aleast 6-10 hours, cause you'll never know if the server is crashing and extended downtime will come of an resualt of that.
Another think I wondering about. Why do you set a time (where you think the server will run again) and just keep extende that time. Seems to me like you do not know wtf to do. Insted of just realising that there is a big problem and give your self time enough to fix it insted of pushing the downtime even further.
Well then again we have to remember its just a freaking game.
Fun to play when it works. Just sadly it has so many issues.
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:01:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Geee69 on 22/03/2007 13:58:19
f..king browser.. I won't write down my thinks again...
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:02:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Jamie LaPonte on 22/03/2007 13:59:41
ENCOUNTER 10 Minute Countdown, NO REFUGE
BE ATTITUDE FOR GAINS:
1. BE PRAYING
2. BE PRAYING
3. BE PRAYING
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:07:00 -
[71]
5...4...3...2..1.....10min...
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:07:00 -
[72]
/agree with the whole CCP not saying "Oh..13:00" then "oh we meant 13:30" then "Yep 14:00 is where it is"
Just go like "Itll be up before 17:00" and call it good. Yeesh.
If i knew it would be up at 17:00 at the latest, i woulda got a few hrs of sleep.
But no, its the anticipation that kills...gah
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Aslovi
Caldari
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:07:00 -
[73]
Guys chill out its a game (a great game but a game none the less).
Am I p*ssed that my skill finished 1 hour ago and I have to leave for work now? yes of course I am but for the love of which ever god to believe in CHILL OUT.
You nubs really get on my ****, i've played lots of different online games they are all the same with DT's and those that say they don't have them ie SWG crash and nerf just as much as EvE.
Its time to stop complaining about what you pay peanuts to play and let it happen when it happens.
If your so sad to be sat in front of the screen waiting for the moment to log back in you really did to get a life, you REALLY do.
Here endeth my 2 penths worth, flam eall you want i'm a grown man and get far worse for my wife
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shuckstar
Gallente
Order of New Blood
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:08:00 -
[74]
Give CCP a break op
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:15:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Geee69 on 22/03/2007 14:11:22
Originally by: Vactet
If i knew it would be up at 17:00 at the latest, i woulda got a few hrs of sleep.
or starting the downloader to get a few new por..n movie...
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:15:00 -
[76]
already been said, probebly more then once, but getting a server back into shape to run 30.000+ people ALL AT ONCE, isnt as easy as it might seem. theres ALOT happening all day long.
ive in total played 2 months, not long but still, ive hardly seen long downtimes. im from europe so i do find the timing a bit.. sad, but MOST the time its just 1 hour, and thats not that bad, since its noon so i can ..grab some food, come back.. walk back to grab a drink, get back to my food, find that its cold, get new food, find that my ice in my cola melted, go back..grab new ice, put it in cola, find my food is cold again, get new food.. get back... eat food, drink cola, look at screen. go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, go back. login.. and play.. there we go
ive played my fair share of most any decent mmo, and NONE of them had a perfect downtime rule.. none of them had 0 issues on patch days, and the one game i wont mention, sure as HELL isnt perfect when it comes to staying online
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:16:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Vactet on 22/03/2007 14:13:13
Oye dont start with the nub thing, besides you used it wrong.
Not like we can do anything of usefulness to ccp while the game starts up
Nub=Non Useful Body.
Yeh its a troll, but what else is there to do?
And besides...you just called us nubs yet you were the one who set a skill to finish within 12hrs of DT, hypocritical much?
40 seconds...cross your fingers
...dangit...
5 second startup loop again
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:17:00 -
[78]
54321(blip)54321(blip)
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Mehnaahmehnaah
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:18:00 -
[79]
Once again the response to suit all occasions 'you noobs'. The sheer ignorant arrogance in that statement is ironic.
Lest we all forget, we may be 'paying peanuts' (ask a Uni student if thats true) but we ARE paying for a service. CCP is a 'for profit' organisation. Who cares if Eve had 10000 or 100000 players on line simultaneously, if it takes 4 days of screwing around to get it working and patches every other week to keep it running then its not worth it. Start a new server/stop accepting more subscriptions which are difficult to support. Keep the people who love this game and are loyal and who more importantly have invested significant time and money in it interested enough. Instead of overloading the server for a 'Guiness World Record' mentality.
Bottom line, we all love this game and want to play it instead of sitting in the forums flaming each other instead of organising a groundswell to have CCP change how they do things. If that means I have to pay 5 bucks a month more but get guaranteed playing time I would gladly pay it.
Thanks for playing tonight, Mum says i have to come inside now.... see ya in game....
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:18:00 -
[80]
so new game...
everyone bets when the server will be up finally...
my bet...ehh..15:30
and with that bet in place, gonna go get rest.
Sometimes the world needs to be kicked in the face to stop drooling on itself like an ignorant child.
::Im paid to talk, not to be civil.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait
we are screwed.
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:19:00 -
[81]
I bet 17:00
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:19:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Darqion Zenix on 22/03/2007 14:18:46
he calls you lot nubs for whining, so him setting a skill within 12h of DT has little to do with the matter he talked about.
and a nub is a spinoff from the word noob, which is another spinoff from newbie, so dont get to smart about stuff like that.
btw ive seen games that only support 2K people a server being offline for DAYS, not just hours. and after patch time you mightaswell not even try to login, you`ll be sorely dissapointed.
this game might have more DT, but atleast for me it has one of the best performances, and least random servercrashes.
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Kerneld Bathezid
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:20:00 -
[83]
Originally by: OMG Celizatis
Edited by: OMG Celizatis on 22/03/2007 13:55:08
And for the person who said Eve is fragile.... Yes. It is. Nobody else has every done anything like Eve. Other MMO's can be more stable with server updates because they run a load of 1500 people on average per server, with rarely more than 2000 playing. And that causes lag. Most servers can't handle more than 3000. EVE is now running 30,000 for most of a day. If lots of MMO's were running the same way, this might not be a problem. But as for now, there isn't any big list of problems for running a massive game server like this, no big list of tips and tricks to keep it working 24 hours a day for months. Its one group of people who have to take and solve problems as they occur.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe they just put a facade around a cluster of servers, each of which can barely support 500 people? Did it every occur to you that when you jump from system to system or region to region that maybe all the "server" is doing is just "re-logging" you into a different server? Maybe you've never been to Jita yet and seen what 500-600 people in one system does to this "cutting edge" server design? Before you get so emotional about defending a server design that just gives the illusion of 30,000 people on "one server cluster" maybe you should stop to think how that design is acutally accomplished first. I'm not claiming I know CCP's exact architecure (and Kudos to them for being the first to take this type of approach), but I do know a fair amount about how this stuff does get architected and I also know that what you see on the outside is often quite different that what is really going on under the covers.
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Darthirishguy
Caldari
Unknown-Heroes
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:22:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Darthirishguy
Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Server startup...(0 sec)
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
Establish connection....
Could not connect, odds are you do not have internet
Here we go again...
No wait... 600 secs.
Roller coaster of love... Rollercoaster of lo-o-ove....
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Rocko Siffredi
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:22:00 -
[85]
Look into my eyes.........
You're getting sleepy............sleepy..............
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:23:00 -
[86]
Possible Hardware problem with SOL 26: hehe more information..
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:24:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Geee69 on 22/03/2007 14:21:27
"Possible Hardware problem with SOL 26"
LoL
SOL 26-27 was a mars pathfinder in the 31 of July in 1997.
yeah I know it isn't only a mars pathfinder's name...
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:25:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Jamie LaPonte on 22/03/2007 14:24:44
Edited by: Jamie LaPonte on 22/03/2007 14:22:49
Hey, they actually gave us some sort of idea what the problem is now!
"Possible hardware problem with SOL 26"
That... sucks.
I assume thats one of the servers in their cluster?
If its a hardware problem, we can't really blame them... I've owned servers before (I host websites (free and non) in my free time) with much less usage and even then I knew how harrowing it was when, say, a PSU gave out on us :(
And to have a deadline like this? Damn, my heart goes out to CCP's techs, if you guys can fix this today, you rock so much.
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Geee69
Molden Heath Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:27:00 -
[89]
of course they don't have a backup of that hardware they have to go down to a computer shop to buy one
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Donzine
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:27:00 -
[90]
think solarsystem 26 
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Endo Scrote
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:27:00 -
[91]
I have read all the "its biggest server in the world " posts or "I have paid I deserve a better DT hour" all valid in a very minor way
Me I would personally like someone from CCP just spending 1 minute to say " Sorry boys I pressed this doodad when I should have been pulling this geejaw sorry chaps I've broke"
Nothing much really to ask for
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Korotani
Caldari
Grab Bag Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:30:00 -
[92]
Oh my GOD! 7 HOURS of my life not spent playing EVE Online?!
Seriously guys, no matter how seemingly brilliant this game is - It's just a game. Go do something else, get some fresh air while the downtimes on. In fact, why don't you try playing Navyfield? The Devs are a hell of a lot worse than the guys here.
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:30:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Jamie LaPonte on 22/03/2007 14:26:38
Quote:
Me I would personally like someone from CCP just spending 1 minute to say " Sorry boys I pressed this doodad when I should have been pulling this geejaw sorry chaps I've broke"
Well thats basically what they just did.
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OMG Celizatis
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:30:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Endo Scrote
I have read all the "its biggest server in the world " posts or "I have paid I deserve a better DT hour" all valid in a very minor way
Me I would personally like someone from CCP just spending 1 minute to say " Sorry boys I pressed this doodad when I should have been pulling this geejaw sorry chaps I've broke"
Nothing much really to ask for
Thats in the General forum dude, under the official thread.
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Darqion Zenix
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:31:00 -
[95]
you dont work with computers do you ?
computers dont play friendly, they just break. deny it if you want but unwanted issues WILL occurr. so could very well be nobody did anything wrong, and the server just had a bad breakfast
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FrezZzer
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:31:00 -
[96]
30.000 char's maybe not 30.000 players. So many in EvE have alts, and heard that some have up to 10 alts running so that they can keep mining or what ever and earn enough ISK to buy times card to all of them.
When I started there was around 7.000 char's online in a normal day and in the weekends up 10.000. Don't think there's 20.000 new PLAYERS that joined the game since I started.
Alt's can be good and yes I had an alt for around 6 month. Then decided to give EvE a break and got rid of it again. After I started again I don't really miss it that much. And yes ofc doing to that the people I play with have alt's and they are kind enough to help me out move my gear in a freigter. But when that was done, I haven't had need for an alt.
I don't see a problem in people having 1 alt. If you so wishes. It can be fun to play another race and try other skills then your main. But 6-10 alt's, thats just sick imo. Why would you need them..... What do you use them for? Sit in Jita at 4-4 and make the system/server lag like crazy??
CCP removed all instan's, which hit me abit, cause I spend ALOT of time making them (okay maybe not as long as BMKing, or what ever he was called).
I don't know how you could control it, and monitor it. But if it could be done, there's another problem with it. Because people pay for their alt's, and if CCP made it so, they would lose money.....
But I hope CCP would think about it. And think about the gameplay insted if the financial.
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Psy Hi
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:33:00 -
[97]
Hi.
I've only played a few days, but I must say I'm a bit surprised of all the downtime and bugs, like not being able to sell anything for a full day now.
But I'm hoping it's just because a new patch was released recently, and that things will go back to normal afterwards, what ever normal is
Anyway they probably have some reasons for just having one server (or is there a Chinese one too?), but I'd prefer if they got more servers so that we could play on another while one is down, like WoW. Would also be good to have a few hours of weekely downtime instead of every day, also like WoW.
Sorry for comparing with WoW all the time, but it's the only online game I've tried before EVE. 
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:35:00 -
[98]
STATUS OK
STATUS ****ING OK
wheee
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Maureen D
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:36:00 -
[99]
now all S*T*F*U a,d play
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Hauling
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:36:00 -
[100]
Everytime a extend downtime comes, most who are trying to get their 9-13H skills synchronized (yes some do sleep) will loose money. And iam not talking about ISK i mean REAL MONEY.
Since we pay for the skill training...
Now again i think the biggest issue right now is the "lag on missioneers area". Hell yesterday i saw 210 peeps in Motsu - Caldari State area. GUess what? 60% of it were NOT caldari.
Isnt it awesome? We Caldarians, not only have to live with Jita lag, which is ok since players will always try to find 1 big commerce spot (kinda like to have it close of 'home'), but we also have to live with UNPLAYABLE lag in "caldari mission land" cause non-caldaris come to mission here.
Ive heard that we got the best agents * most secure areas but duuuuuuuude.... GO HOME! 
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jenson karrack
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:40:00 -
[101]
ZOMG IM GONNA QUIT BECAUSE OF D/T!!!!!!111111111
wait no im not, because just like everyone else in this post, im tapping the vein like a street walker with ******. it goes down once in awhile, deal with it.
-j
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Jamie LaPonte
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:40:00 -
[102]
/me logs in and then notices both his characters gone, panics, logs out, logs back in, and notices them back.
Whee
Hey, there are only 6 players online!
Time to go to Jita while its not lagging! :P
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NurofenMiner
Amarr
Stormlord Battleforce
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Posted - 2007.03.22 14:47:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Korotani
Oh my GOD! 7 HOURS of my life not spent playing EVE Online?!
Seriously guys, no matter how seemingly brilliant this game is - It's just a game. Go do something else, get some fresh air while the downtimes on. In fact, why don't you try playing Navyfield? The Devs are a hell of a lot worse than the guys here.
Scary isn't it... We've paid to play EVE online which is supposed to be running 23/7. Yup 1 hour of downtime per day. This may shock you, but there are also several features of the game that run on absolutes..... Absolute termination of an action after so much time. People only have X amount of time to play per day - and sometimes the times of downtime and peoples availablility may conflict - such as POS refueling time etc. This annoucned down time is frustrating, using the example of POS refueling as if the POS goes down, upto months of planning can be ruined. Not nice at all.
It's not just a game. Its an investment of time to which you wish to achieve something. Its pvp in every sense of the idea...by either personal ship destruction or market interaction! Its a distraction, and excape from the 'real' world to which every one of us that plays eve for the long term partakes in. And people do take this very seriously - if you deny this you are fooling yourself.
Korotoni, if you're not here in a few months it wont suprise any of the eve community.
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Korotani
Caldari
Grab Bag Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.22 17:55:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Korotani on 22/03/2007 17:51:50
Believe me, I will be around a few months from now, and I won't be the one whining about losing one precious hour of game time. (Quick edit, I doubt any of the Eve community care that I'm around, why should they care if I disappear?)
I realise that MMORPGS are a new kind of social interaction, a world away from ours that we can delve into. But like a few people have said, there's a EULA that you've agreed to. Why don't you try plugging bits of hardware into a large, busy(strained?) server and sort out the bugs that arise from it? Delays always happen in real life, why shouldn't they happen here?
Fact is, downtime is very regular, and it begins on the dot, not before - Take engineering works, they start on time but rarely finish on time. Why don't you just plan ahead? You make months of preparation to build a POS, just add that into your equation! If you have the numbers to build a POS, then surely someone can shift fuel and have it delivered before the downtime begins.
And I will reiterate my original statement: It's a game. People take games too seriously nowadays. Lighten up and enjoy it, and learn to enjoy something else if the game isn't there all of a sudden. So what if you can't play EVE at a certain time? You can't do a thing about it, and the devs were working hard to get the server back up again, I just went off and did some work and other things - can't change the past.
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