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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:28:00 -
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The path that CCP is going down is frankly disturbing to me. There are so many things in the game that could be improved and so many features having to do with the space side of eve that I think its frankly daft to consider putting in something so superficial and silly as walking around in stations. I cant possibly think of what that will add to the climate of Eve or enhance the player kingdoms.
Instead of blowing developer time doing this stuff, why doesn't CCP work on some of the many thousands of bugs in the game. They could actually fix the corp interface which has been broken for three years. They could implement real territoral control where kingdoms could form rather than having no defensible borders to speak of. They could spend time fixing the thousands of bugs and strengthen the servers. They could finally put in fleet formations and improve the fleet interfaces to account for managed ewar and other advanced pvp tactics. They could fix the dozens of bugs with POS deployments and introduce even more abilities to pvp.
Sometimes I read the in-development section and wonder what drugs the devs are taking. I for one would much rather they focus on things that are centric to the game rather that sillyness.
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Professor Pizi
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:31:00 -
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because they workin on an new game with WW and need the engine anyway ?
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Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:31:00 -
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I agree entirely Rells.
This is a direction that takes EVE away from it's best areas and develops all the wrong things. EVE should play to it's strengths and fix the core part of EVE - the PVP - before adding essentially useless fluff.
But prepare to be flamed to hell in the coming hours, the fanboys here are going to go postal on this thread 
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente
HighTech Marines Ltd.
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:40:00 -
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Signed
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Thews Mortaza
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:45:00 -
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Edited by: Thews Mortaza on 26/03/2007 08:41:43
I can't wait to see how walking around in stations will work. Like how at the moment you can see avatars that are back-to-front or are a head without a body. Like it won't be creepy walking down Jita 4 - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy and having something related to the Munsters ambulate itself past you in the corridor ...
EDIT: *hint, hint, CCP. Get your house in order, please.*
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Rells
The path that CCP is going down is frankly disturbing to me. There are so many things in the game that could be improved and so many features having to do with the space side of eve that I think its frankly daft to consider putting in something so superficial and silly as walking around in stations. I cant possibly think of what that will add to the climate of Eve or enhance the player kingdoms.
Instead of blowing developer time doing this stuff, why doesn't CCP work on some of the many thousands of bugs in the game. They could actually fix the corp interface which has been broken for three years. They could implement real territoral control where kingdoms could form rather than having no defensible borders to speak of. They could spend time fixing the thousands of bugs and strengthen the servers. They could finally put in fleet formations and improve the fleet interfaces to account for managed ewar and other advanced pvp tactics. They could fix the dozens of bugs with POS deployments and introduce even more abilities to pvp.
Sometimes I read the in-development section and wonder what drugs the devs are taking. I for one would much rather they focus on things that are centric to the game rather that sillyness.
/Definitely NOT signed!
There will always be bugs, and CCP will always works on them. But that cant be a hinderance for continuing the game developement!
The world will always be imperfect! Even when "perfect" someone will always find something to put the finger on! If you simply stop the train, you also stops the game! And that is the same as stoppings its future.
Originally by: Eldo Davip
PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT.
WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.26 08:56:00 -
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Walking in stations will only be worthwhile if it has new content to go with it
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Walking in stations will only be worthwhile if it has new content to go with it
Sozialization, as will be the content in the beginning, is content enough for me. Later on, ofcource, CCP will slowly give it more content. At least, that is what they have told us so far.
Originally by: Eldo Davip
PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT.
WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
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Tarminic
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:05:00 -
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Actually, CCP is developing the engine used for the walking-in-stations section anyway, so the majority of time the EVE team will spend working with it will be connecting it to EVE itself and adding to the graphics engine. Considering that the engine is being developed in-house, it will probably use code and technology that the development team is already familiar with. Thus, their job will be a fairly trivial process and not take very much time away from other EVE content development at all.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:06:00 -
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Personally I wish they'd work on the bugs rather than wasting time on things like this but I have to say I'm curious about it.
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Kassidus
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:09:00 -
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when will it ever end.
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen
Personally I wish they'd work on the bugs rather than wasting time on things like this but I have to say I'm curious about it.
Personally I'd like to get a count of how many times CCP needs to tell the players that bugfixing and gamedesign are two entirely different tasks, done by completely different people with completely different skills.
A bughunter will probably not be a good content designer, a content designer will probably not be a very good bugfixer, and Oveur would probably not be a very good submarine captain.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:10:00 -
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No matter the MMO, players always know better.
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Dufas
Amarr
Death Machines
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:10:00 -
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NOT signed....walking in stations is gonna rock..personally im looking forward to smacking my corp members around in the corp board room...its gonna be fun just like atmospheric flight...another fauct of the game that will take eve down a new path....
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Kassidus
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kassidus on 26/03/2007 09:10:50
Originally by: Na'Thuul
Originally by: Par'Gellen
and Oveur would probably not be a very good submarine captain.
Umm Oveur was a submarine Captain in the royal Icelandic navy for 12 years before working for CCP.
just so you know ;)
bang on for the rest though ;)
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Gibbah
Caldari
S-44
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:15:00 -
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Im REALLY looking forward to see more of actuall people in Eve. As it is a mmoRPg and I belive this development will enhance that in a good way. Yes, I want spaceship PvP also, offcorse, but I love that CCP have not forgotten about all the other stuff in the game. It is nice to see that Eve develops in ALL areas, not only one.
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vanderi
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kassidus
Originally by: Na'Thuul
Originally by: Par'Gellen
and Oveur would probably not be a very good submarine captain.
Umm Oveur was a submarine Captain in the royal Icelandic navy for 12 years before becoming working for CCP.
just so you know ;)
Are you pulling our leg?
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Thuul on 26/03/2007 09:22:32
crap doubleposting forums
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[08:41:12] Nebulai > unless your offering me cheap pills, I don't see it
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Na'Thuul
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:26:00 -
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Yes he is.
Fir of all, as Iceland is not a monarchy, it has no Royal Navy
Secondly, Oveur is british, and as such would not be in it even if there was one
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jex Jast on 26/03/2007 09:28:56
Originally by: vanderi
Originally by: Kassidus
Originally by: Na'Thuul
Originally by: Par'Gellen
and Oveur would probably not be a very good submarine captain.
Umm Oveur was a submarine Captain in the royal Icelandic navy for 12 years before becoming working for CCP.
just so you know ;)
Are you pulling our leg?
How do we all fail at using quote tags? (observe 4 tags and 3 actual quotes, someone screwed up and all your text is small. And belong to me.)
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Gan Astro
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:35:00 -
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A lot of the stuff you mentioned should be fixed before any new content is added, but lets be realistic... CCP (like any other game developer) need to continously attract new customers for its product to grow. Wether we like it or not, walking in stations will most likely generate a whole influx of new players (you know the type that put eye-candy above depth and content  ).
But imho, its been 4 years since Eve went live and our avatars are still restricted to spaceships only. Can you see Eve in another 3 years time being the same? For the longevity of eve, walking in stations and ultimately on planetary surfaces is the way it'll most likely have to go.
Walking in stations is CCP's first tentative step towards full 3D avatar interaction.
If CCP get it right, it could be awesome... if they get it wrong....
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Par'Gellen
Gallente
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Thuul
Originally by: Par'Gellen
Personally I wish they'd work on the bugs rather than wasting time on things like this but I have to say I'm curious about it.
Personally I'd like to get a count of how many times CCP needs to tell the players that bugfixing and gamedesign are two entirely different tasks, done by completely different people with completely different skills.
A bughunter will probably not be a good content designer, a content designer will probably not be a very good bugfixer, and Oveur would probably not be a very good submarine captain.
Hehe they can say it all they want. As someone that has worked in the industry for 14 years I can tell you without a doubt that if you want to do complicated software correctly you DO NOT add things on top of buggy code without fixing it first. It's a no-brainer. I've heard CCP say what you said a million times and every time I have to shake my head in disappointment that such a great company doesn't understand such a basic fundamental of software development.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Na'Thuul
Yes he is.
Fir of all, as Iceland is not a monarchy, it has no Royal Navy
Secondly, Oveur is british, and as such would not be in it even if there was one
As far as I know, Iceland has no navy, air force or armed forces whatsoever.
Of course, it could be a sekrit spy sub. But then we shouldn't be informing people that Oveur used to be its captain
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Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.03.26 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Sometimes I read the in-development section and wonder what drugs the devs are taking. I for one would much rather they focus on things that are centric to the game rather that sillyness.
Have you read it recently? Pretty much everything you listed seems to be in there...
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RaTTuS
BIG
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:07:00 -
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As this is being developed anyway for White Wolf, I say bring it on.
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Umit Davala
Corpus PCG
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
As far as I know, Iceland has no navy, air force or armed forces whatsoever.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:30:00 -
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its a choice between new content to get more people into EVE for more cash for CCP, or fixing bugs to keep the ones in EVE content and to stay longer.
Lesser of the two evils right there...
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:36:00 -
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Well, if walking in stations is not added then EvE will cease to exist. Its as simple as that. The world of MMOs is changing and CCP have to adapt to those changes.
And the biggest change happening just now is that customers are demanding a "Virtual World" environment. Which in EvE's case means walking in stations. Without it EvE will be a very unapealing prospect to new customers and so will wither.
The hard core PvPers can just ignore walking in stations. But without it, your game will die.
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Mysterlee
Gallente
5punkorp
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:40:00 -
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Has no one noticed the number of patches CCP has released since revelations and the amount of bugs they've fixed since then?
As said a million times before, the devs all have different specialities, do you want graphics designers working on gameplay bugs? They don't have any experience with that work so they wouldn't make a very good job of it. CCP has a large number of staff so why can't they do more than one thing at once?
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Ithoriel
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Posted - 2007.03.26 10:42:00 -
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Apparently Iceland has 4 patrol boats (quick check online shows them as Tyr, Odinn, Aegir and Baldur) run by their coastguard. If they were underwater while Oveur was in command I think that might rank as Oveur not being a very good submarine captain
Getting well O/T, sorry
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