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Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:21:00 - [1] It's not Charon like "ch" = chalk or "ch" = cherry It's pronounced "kair-on", as in "Cher" = Kerr in "Kerry" Care-on would be a slightly exaggerated version of it. But it's not a soft ch, it's a hard ch. As in Chemistry, Chameleon etc. Just so you can now resume sleeping at night, and all. I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Motorcycle Emptiness Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:25:00 - [2] are you american? Flashing White Box (rank 1)
Nicholas Barker Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:25:00 - [3] Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma **. How do you say minmatar correctly? ------------------------------------- Am Orbitin' ur shi... i said orbit... ORBIT... no don't fly off in that direction
F2C MaDMaXX The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:27:00 - [4] Actually, this is correct, the name is from some boat that ferries you accross to hell or soemthing, i can't remember, its from mythology anyway. ______________________________________ Natural Selection Developer Sound FX
Sile Suirghiche Gaidhlig Technology	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:30:00 - [5] Charon
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Motorcycle Emptiness are you american? Nope, English, but I can tell you it's a hard "ch" not a soft one :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades The deceased entered the underworld by crossing the Acheron ferried across by Charon (kair'-on), who charged an obolus, a small coin for passage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon_(moon) Charon (shair'-ən or kair'-ən (key), IPA /ˈʃɛərən, ˈkɛərən/, Greek Χάρων), discovered in 1978, http://www.pantheon.org/articles/c/charon.html Pronunciation: kair'-uhn I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:38:00 - [7] Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma **. How do you say minmatar correctly? I pronounce it "min mat-arr" or "min m'tar" I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Entreri Finwe Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma **. How do you say minmatar correctly? [From the airport] (or was that 'to'?) ---
elbenito Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:54:00 - [9] Edited by: elbenito on 31/03/2007 17:50:39 Originally by: Nicholas Barker How do you say minmatar correctly? slave (slāv)
monkeyduck Mithril Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:57:00 - [10] http://www.bartleby.com/61/wavs/50/C0255000.wav I got my care on, do you?
Nero Scuro Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:58:00 - [11] Charon, along with Chimaera! Nobody can pronounce those two it seems! IT'S KAI-RON AND KAI-MER-A!! ___ Nice one CCP
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:58:00 - [12] And while we are at it if i hear one more person mispronounce chimera on ts im gonna kill them
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 17:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Nero Scuro Charon, along with Chimaera! Nobody can pronounce those two it seems! IT'S KAI-RON AND KAI-MER-A!! I say it right :P I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Nero Scuro Charon, along with Chimaera! Nobody can pronounce those two it seems! IT'S KAI-RON AND KAI-MER-A!! I see it more of a kair-on rather than a kai (kai rhyming with eye, and kair rhyming with bear/care, just slightly shorter) I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Neon Genesis Gallente The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:11:00 - [15] Sharon
Nero Scuro Caldari Murder of Crows E N I G M A	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:12:00 - [16] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Nero Scuro Charon, along with Chimaera! Nobody can pronounce those two it seems! IT'S KAI-RON AND KAI-MER-A!! I see it more of a kair-on rather than a kai (kai rhyming with eye, and kair rhyming with bear/care, just slightly shorter) Feh, close enough. ;P ___ Nice one CCP
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:13:00 - [17] Originally by: Neon Genesis Sharon It's Karen! I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:32:00 - [18] Originally by: elbenito Originally by: Nicholas Barker How do you say minmatar correctly? slave (slāv) Grr grr, you all die!
Carter Burke	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:36:00 - [19] It's not even care-on. It's "brick," like 'brik' or 'brique' ). And I'm proud of my bricks. CB
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.31 18:59:00 - [20] WTF, thought it was across the Styx, not the Acheron.
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:06:00 - [21] I'm just going to call them Kerrys now to annoy people.
Carter Burke	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Soporo WTF, thought it was across the Styx, not the Acheron. That's correct. Charon was the god who pushed the boat, and it was the river Styx. CB
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:18:00 - [23] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma **. How do you say minmatar correctly? I pronounce it "min mat-arr" or "min m'tar" It's min - mate - er Duh! ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standard Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
monkeyduck Mithril Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Carter Burke Originally by: Soporo WTF, thought it was across the Styx, not the Acheron. That's correct. Charon was the god who pushed the boat, and it was the river Styx. CB Depends on the source, but the Styx is the most widely known. Read the Divine Comedy and other sources, however, and the Acheron is mentioned. If not the whole thing, Inferno is well worth the read .
Reverend Revelator Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:25:00 - [25] Remind to flame all the English and American retardos who can't pronounce Nidhoggur, Einherjir, Sleipnir, Naglfar, etc etc etc Man you guys suck so much for not knowing how to pronounce those names. -- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love --
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:26:00 - [26] Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma . How do you say minmatar correctly? min-ma-tar? Originally by:** kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Reverend Revelator Remind to flame all the English and American retardos who can't pronounce Nidhoggur, Einherjir, Sleipnir, Naglfar, etc etc etc Man you guys suck so much for not knowing how to pronounce those names. Those are all easy to pronounce... Now, the minny DDD, I can't even spell that damn word, let alone SAY it. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.31 19:34:00 - [28] No, right all along, your assumption was wrong. Also Known As
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:09:00 - [29] I pronounce it like the name Sharon. It confuses people on TS. It's awesome. I usually go out of my way to pronounce stuff correctly though. It iritates me when people pronounce Gallente incorrectly. ------------ Combat miner
Dekiri Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:14:00 - [30] Wouldn't the "proper" pronounciation be the one that the greek use? And that makes you all be wrong... --------------------------------- My dad can beat up your dad!
Trem Sinval Sinval Enterprises	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:23:00 - [31] "Shar-on", and stop being all whiny! And: Ky-mere-ah Whi-vern Egsck-eck-kur-or Ab-a-don Mail-strom Tur-ette Tack-ee-on Dooms-day-Dev-ice - Trem
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:27:00 - [32] What was the boat called? The one that took the dead from one side to the other? I want to name my salvager that I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Vivus Mors	Posted - 2007.03.31 21:17:00 - [33] Edited by: Vivus Mors on 31/03/2007 21:14:49 Originally by: Dekiri Wouldn't the "proper" pronounciation be the one that the greek use? And that makes you all be wrong... Well, no it doesn't, because the ancient Greek is well known due to the wonders of the Rosetta Stone and countless other references of not only words and their translations, but also they phonetic values as well. Keep in mind that Latin is a dead tongue, and yet it is used almost exclusively by the Scientific world to label virtually everything, the same holds true with ancient Greek in that it can and is commonly used particularly in reference to ancient Greek history, philosophy (which is itself an ancient Greek word), archeology, and numerous other things. The Greeks actually called him Khar(n due to peculiarities in their alphabet not matching ours, thus "Ch" was not its original spelling. As for the phonetics, it's "Kha-rhon", almost as if one is scraping the back of their throat on the "Kha" followed by gentle "rhon" sounding for the most-part like the proper name "Ron". The more relaxed pronunciation is "Care-un" or "Care-on", either have effectively the same note on the ear of most, particularly when said in a sentence where each syllable isn't being over-analyzed. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:12:00 - [34] shuht uhp yn naw-tee lit-l muhng-kee ------------------- Say What?
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:27:00 - [35] Edited by: Jex Jast on 31/03/2007 22:23:30 Originally by: Vivus Mors As for the phonetics, it's "Kha-rhon", almost as if one is scraping the back of their throat on the "Kha" Like the sound in Hebrew (i.e. L'chaim, however you want to spell it since they don't use the Roman alphabet)? Edit: That was supposed to be a question. Added question mark. ----- :::Need to be cleaned::: Sorry mods, hijack removed - blame the sig length limit. I thought you just didnt love us anymore - Tim I got cookies! - Deckard
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:29:00 - [36] What drives me crazy is that Charon is the son of Nyx and Erebus. So, why is a Caldari freighter named after the son of the Gallente Mothership and Titan ? Oh and it's pronounced almost like "Karen". _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
PredatorPT New Dawn Corp	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:40:00 - [37] Originally by: Akita T What drives me crazy is that Charon is the son of Nyx and Erebus. So, why is a Caldari freighter named after the son of the Gallente Mothership and Titan ? Their son is a traitor!
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:48:00 - [38] Ummm.... Chemistry and Chameleon have silent h's. -----
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:52:00 - [39] Originally by: Firane Ummm.... Chemistry and Chameleon have silent h's. yes so it's a "hard" c, (or ch), as I said. As opposed to say, cyprus which has a soft "c", or Charlie which has a soft "ch". I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.

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Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 22:55:00 - [41] I think also Cerberus is meant to be pronounced with a hard c (as in kerberus) but I'm not sure. It's alternate spelling is apparently Kerberos. I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Kylar Renpurs	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:10:00 - [42] I blame the english language and it's pity attempts to simulate other languages. Χάρων is how charon is spelt and pronounced, not Charon, because cha is cha, not,,, whatever the heck that is up there,,, I dont know my greek too well. I had a similar argument with my friend once about the chinese spelling of Xiau being pronounced 'Sho'. I argued it was actually correct in a sense, but also incorrect due to the nicities of the english language. Somewhere, some numptee academic studied the Chinese language way back when and decided Xiau was the proper spelling of the Chinese, as we'd pronounce 'sho'. The argument with my friend was basically over why it was spelt Xiau and pronounced 'sho', not 'zeeau'. After lots of quabbling we just agreed to disagree. A similar example is the greek Xi, a lot of people would pronounce it Xy like in Xylophone, whereas it's pronounced more like 'ktsai', or somesuch. Bah, what am I saying,, I'm in software development,, not a literature coinnoseur (and thats probably spelt wrong too!)
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:20:00 - [43] Originally by: Kylar Renpurs I blame the english language and it's pity attempts to simulate other languages. that would be pitiful, I assume? I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Mirinea	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:29:00 - [44] Edited by: Mirinea on 31/03/2007 23:26:32 http://webster.com/dictionary/charon Click the link, then click the speaker icon. It's pronounced like "Karon." Edit: Bonus for being the son of Erebus
Mirinea	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:29:00 - [45] Edited by: Mirinea on 31/03/2007 23:26:32 http://webster.com/dictionary/charon Click the link, then click the speaker icon. It's pronounced like "Karon." Edit: Bonus for being the son of Erebus
Gisboar	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:41:00 - [46] Who cares as long as everybody knows about which ship is spoken ... In German you pronounce it completely different - so what ? Most certainly the english pronunciation is the only correct one
Daelin Blackleaf No Joy Corp Pride - Honor - Duty	Posted - 2007.03.31 23:46:00 - [47] The proper spelling and pronunciation of a word is that most commonly used. Each year dictionaries are revised to reflect changes in the language, people seem to forget that language is fluid and the dictionary is not the arbiter of pronunciation. Who knows perhaps in time the English language will begin to reflect current shorthand usage if the trend continues and grows in popularity. If u dnt lik it u cn strt usin thee thou and thine agen. So however you say it so long as everyone else understands what you mean your getting it right.
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.01 00:36:00 - [48] Some people say "Zel-lot" others say "Zee-lot". I personally say things how the **** I like. Probally why I'm not an FC. "Primary target is that thing over there, caracel" "Cara what" "Like the merry-go-round?"
Admiral Feelgood Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.01 00:43:00 - [49] I say Charon like chalk or cherry because of the single player campaign in starcraft. The machine face thing says it like that so it must be true!
Bosie Caldari Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.01 01:19:00 - [50] You say: Tomato. I say: Tomato. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." .
Mirinea	Posted - 2007.04.01 01:45:00 - [51] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf The proper spelling and pronunciation of a word is that most commonly used. Each year dictionaries are revised to reflect changes in the language, people seem to forget that language is fluid and the dictionary is not the arbiter of pronunciation. Who knows perhaps in time the English language will begin to reflect current shorthand usage if the trend continues and grows in popularity. If u dnt lik it u cn strt usin thee thou and thine agen. So however you say it so long as everyone else understands what you mean your getting it right. To a degree, you're right. But, anyone who is formally taught how to pronounce it will always speak it a certain way. The people who can't be assed to look it up will pronounce it another. I don't know if you code, but this is analogous to the differences between a lazy, self-taught programmer, and one with more rigorous instruction: their programs might do the same thing, can be understood by each other, but the former will probably produce programs with bad formatting, spaghetti and dead code, inefficient methods, etc. Maybe to the end user, it won't matter, but you won't find a professional who says that sloppy coding is okay. And properness and correctness in spelling and grammar do not always come from popularity. "Whom" is rarely used where it should be. And, as you demonstrate, your and you're are often used incorrectly as well. Dictionaries exist to enforce a standard so we can all refer to it when disagreements like this arise. Does that make the difference clear?
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.04.01 01:55:00 - [52] Well, it is perhaps more of a challenge agreeing on how to pronounce the seemingly made up names of systems in game. For instance: JITA Is it Gee-tah or Jiht-ah or Jie-tah? OURSULAERT Is it our-su-lert or aw-sal-a-ert or ooher-su-lart? (probably none of the above ;P) DODIXIE - Doh-dix-ee? MASALLE - Ma-seh-la? Then there's those that everyone seems to pronounce the same. Rens Duripant Kisogo Motsu Or the ones I know I'm not saying right but that's just how my brain trips over it. Like KIAINTI = Chianti the wine for me. And always followed by Hannibal Lector's voice saying, "and then I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti" yeah... ------------------- Say What?
nickky01 The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.01 02:24:00 - [53] listen up brits. ZEE-LOT (like see) not ZEL-OT (like sell) see? ZEEEEEEEE-LOT wtf is a "zed" anyways. its ZEEE. and no, you didn't "invent" the english language, america did. you just added the letter "U" to a bunch of words that didn't need it
Pyxee The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.01 02:27:00 - [54] Thats it Nicky, show em how its done.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.04.01 02:29:00 - [55] Originally by: nickky01 listen up brits. ZEE-LOT (like see) not ZEL-OT (like sell) see? ZEEEEEEEE-LOT wtf is a "zed" anyways. its ZEEE. and no, you didn't "invent" the english language, america did. you just added the letter "U" to a bunch of words that didn't need it Er... From the US and I say ZEL-OT. Sorry but that's just how it should be said. I'm with ya on the brits cheating at Scrabble thing though. ------------------- Say What?
Toros Revoke STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.01 02:52:00 - [56] You wanna talk about cheating at scrabble, no one does it like the welsh. Zealot- should be obvious Zeal-ot! That said, I say zellot, it's my language and I abuse it far less than you bloody colonials
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi	Posted - 2007.04.01 03:08:00 - [57] While we're on the subject... Is Rokh pronounced "rock" or "roke", becuase I'm sure it's pronounced "rock" but my entire corp says "roke" Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.
moxica	Posted - 2007.04.01 05:17:00 - [58] Edited by: moxica on 01/04/2007 05:17:22 Regarding 'Charon'. You do all realise that latin is a dead language which was later resurrected? There isn't a single person that can truly say what the pronunciation is for old latin words. Edit Hoisted by my own petard. missed out an 'N'.
PleaseDon'tShoot	Posted - 2007.04.01 06:50:00 - [59] Edited by: PleaseDon''tShoot on 01/04/2007 06:46:42 Originally by: moxica There isn't a single person that can truly say what the pronunciation is for old latin words. Dr. Jackson can.
GeekWarrior Gallente e X i l e	Posted - 2007.04.01 06:51:00 - [60] Um yeah... ----------------------------- EVE Addict, creator of the EVE Online Forms Greasemonkey Script \o/
Fracking Beach	Posted - 2007.04.01 06:58:00 - [61] ATT Speech synthesizer disagrees with the OP: http://192.20.225.55/tts/speech/5899117ed5fc00c3c550e09113357cd2.wav Try it yourself: http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.04.01 07:39:00 - [62] Boobies. BOO-BIES Pronounce it correctly! Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
moxica	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:19:00 - [63] I told The Wife about this post and she laughed at me. It turns out Charon is purely a Greek word and the ch is a hard K. The next bit foxed me though, The Wife said the vowels are schwas. Buggered if I know.
Culmen Caldari Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:25:00 - [64] On that note i would like to point out that the Cerberus is not pronounced with the S sound greek did not have the soft C so the Cerberus should be pronounced as Kerberos fitting that it should sound alot more like CareBear _____________________________________________________ Why do i even need a sig?
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:25:00 - [65] Originally by: Akita T What drives me crazy is that Charon is the son of Nyx and Erebus. So, why is a Caldari freighter named after the son of the Gallente Mothership and Titan ? It's not. I was bothered by that myself seeing as the Caldari tend to name their ships after animals (mythical or otherwise). Seems there's a type of "Tailless Whip Scorpion" called Charon. Seeing as that is a type of animal I suspect somehow the ship is named after that rather then the Greek mythology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amblypygid_genera
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:45:00 - [66] Originally by: Kasak Black Some people say "Zel-lot" others say "Zee-lot". I personally say things how the **** I like. Probally why I'm not an FC. "Primary target is that thing over there, caracel" "Cara what" "Like the merry-go-round?" oh god, there used to be someone in my old corp that pronounced Ibis as ib-iss that used to drive me up the flippin' wall! I used to call them caracels, like the merry go round, until someone shouted at me on TS and I looked more closely at the spelling I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:47:00 - [67] Originally by: nickky01 and no, you didn't "invent" the english language, america did. you just added the letter "U" to a bunch of words that didn't need it We invented America I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.04.01 08:48:00 - [68] Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark Edited by: Ehrine Ashbark on 01/04/2007 08:34:45 Originally by: Akita T What drives me crazy is that Charon is the son of Nyx and Erebus. So, why is a Caldari freighter named after the son of the Gallente Mothership and Titan ? It's not. I was bothered by that myself seeing as the Caldari tend to name their ships after animals (mythical or otherwise). Seems there's a type of "Tailless Whip Scorpion" called Charon. Seeing as that is a type of animal I suspect somehow the ship is named after that rather then the Greek mythology. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amblypygid_genera That's a bit obscure, whereas it being a freighter, and being a ship of the dead / captain / driver / pilot of a ship that ferries things, the mythological one makes more sense to me... I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Rane Javoke	Posted - 2007.04.01 11:10:00 - [69] To clarify some things, since im greek and all : Charon in greek is pronounced "Haron" with a hard "H" like in "Hate", but due to latin characters(ironically, characters is a greek word pronounced with the same hard "h")pronounication is different from the greek one. so, it should be pronounced as "Khar-on"... On the other hand, Cerberus is latin for the greek word "Kerveros"(the three headed giant dog that guarded the gates of Hades)and is pronounced "She-rbe-rus". It's all a bit insane tbh, a lot of greek and latin words chage pronounciation to comply with local languages.. i.e. the french would go nuts if they heard how we Greeks pronounce some borrowed french words.. Well, if anyone wants to know how all those ancient-greek named ships should sound, i'll be around.. Originally by: Thor Xian Its not a corp op without at least one Tempest going F1-F2 explosion F3-F4 explosion F5-oh *** warp, primary primaryF6 explosion* warp
The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.01 11:27:00 - [70] its sharon
Alyth Gallente Ma-Ven Industries Phobos Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.01 11:50:00 - [71] Edited by: Alyth on 01/04/2007 11:50:20 Originally by: Reverend Revelator Remind to flame all the English and American retardos who can't pronounce Nidhoggur, Einherjir, Sleipnir, Naglfar, etc etc etc Man you guys suck so much for not knowing how to pronounce those names. Is it...Niy-og-ur, Ein-air-year, Slip-near, Nile-far? Also it's Car-on, Why-vern, Kai-mer-a, A-on, Eos (NOT E-O-S) Eh-lith () etc etc etc
Daelin Blackleaf No Joy Corp Pride - Honor - Duty	Posted - 2007.04.01 13:25:00 - [72] Originally by: Mirinea To a degree, you're right. But, anyone who is formally taught how to pronounce it will always speak it a certain way. The people who can't be assed to look it up will pronounce it another. I don't know if you code, but this is analogous to the differences between a lazy, self-taught programmer, and one with more rigorous instruction: their programs might do the same thing, can be understood by each other, but the former will probably produce programs with bad formatting, spaghetti and dead code, inefficient methods, etc. Maybe to the end user, it won't matter, but you won't find a professional who says that sloppy coding is okay. And properness and correctness in spelling and grammar do not always come from popularity. "Whom" is rarely used where it should be. And, as you demonstrate, your and you're are often used incorrectly as well. Dictionaries exist to enforce a standard so we can all refer to it when disagreements like this arise. Does that make the difference clear? You can't compare spoken language and programming. I have a dictionary I treasure that is over sixty years old. You would be amazed at the number of words that have been dropped , altered in pronunciation, or added to the language since then. If you are so inclined you could even check Oxford English Dictionary website (often seen as the yardstick of the english language in britain) and check how many new additions and alterations were made just in the last year. Since the ancient greeks aren't around to argue the point and ensure the correct pronunciation is present in common usage I doubt the word will remain the same. After all how many mispronunciations of other words have already been adopted into the english language?
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2007.04.01 13:26:00 - [73] Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma **. How do you say minmatar correctly? slave
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.01 13:46:00 - [74] Originally by: Sile Suirghiche Charon It's a greek "divinity", so you must say 'ch' like in Cherry. Gold bar needed ftw :) ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.01 13:48:00 - [75] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 01/04/2007 13:45:47 Originally by: Ehranavaar Originally by: Nicholas Barker Vocal **, close relative of the Gramma . How do you say minmatar correctly? slave ********** * * * ** * * ** * with a * * ** * of your grandmother in law !!!oneoneeleventyone ----- History is made by whinners Originally by:** Clavius Der I dont understand why are these big things (titans, heavy armed poses) in game if they are destroyable with metagaming only
Tekka Caldari Dark Cartel	Posted - 2007.04.01 15:57:00 - [76] Who ******* cares? »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Flaming sambuka Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.01 16:01:00 - [77] Woot i can pronounce it right, im so clever! FDN scum 5thC nubcakes NMTZ carebears
Brother Funkyshades Muzzletov Gewaltski Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.01 16:31:00 - [78] Edited by: Brother Funkyshades on 01/04/2007 16:31:44 Originally by: Nero Scuro Charon, along with Chimaera! Nobody can pronounce those two it seems! IT'S KAI-RON AND KAI-MER-A!! actually its more like kee-mare-a if you wanna sound like the real thing. coz im confident "chimera" has no english origin. edit ; and as the greek guy somewhere said cerberus is pronounced "tserberus" coz the greek version is something like "kerberos".
Raven Hyperbollic Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.04.01 17:02:00 - [79] I say it like Sharon the girls name :)Mind u I cannot read... Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Laramon Questor Minmatar Knights of the Silver Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.01 17:35:00 - [80] Cerberus: sir-burr-us Charon: share-own Sleipnir: sleep-near Wyvern: whiv-earn (I hate it when people say why-vurn Chimera: kai-mair-uh Even after failure, there can be redemption.
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.01 17:54:00 - [81] This thread wins! Now we need to go over Rokh, Myrmidon, Abbadon, Harbinger, and Zealot. Listening to people butcher those on TS drives me nuts. _________________________________________________________
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.01 17:58:00 - [82] Originally by: Laramon Questor Cerberus: sir-burr-us Charon: share-own Sleipnir: sleep-near Wyvern: whiv-earn (I hate it when people say why-vurn Chimera: kai-mair-uh SLIPE-neer KAIR-un _________________________________________________________
Laramon Questor Minmatar Knights of the Silver Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.01 18:02:00 - [83] Originally by: Voculus This thread wins! Now we need to go over Rokh, Myrmidon, Abbadon, Harbinger, and Zealot. Listening to people butcher those on TS drives me nuts. Rokh: Rock Myrmidon: Merr-mid-on Abbadon: Ab-ba-dawn Harbinger: Harr-bin-jer Zealot: Zell-ott Even after failure, there can be redemption.
Rane Javoke	Posted - 2007.04.02 10:08:00 - [84] Originally by: Laramon Questor Charon: share-own for the love of god, it's not "Share-on"... The same way its not "Shemistry".. plz, it's either "Karon" or "Haron" if you want to be precise. Originally by: Thor Xian Its not a corp op without at least one Tempest going F1-F2 explosion F3-F4 explosion F5-oh *** warp, primary primaryF6 explosion* warp
Lore Varan	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:08:00 - [85] I always pronounced it Sharon. Or Shaz once familiar. BTW I have plenty of Shaz's, Kai rens, Cha rons for sale in Ibura ( e - boo - ra ) Bargin at 1075M isk pu :)
Novemb3r The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.02 11:21:00 - [86] Not to throw a spanner in the works or anything, but how do you know the guy who named it was thinking of some mythological character when he named it? It's a pretty good asumption that he was, but you never know. He might have just liked the sound Charon makes when you say it like it's spelled.
Vazaha Bule	Posted - 2007.04.06 21:30:00 - [87] then there's the whole "Gallente" debate to deal with. I've always said Gal-en-tay and my caldari friend has always said Gal-en-tee but we both know what we mean. Sinq Laison - Sank Layzon Oursulaert - Ore-soo-lair imho. on a funnier note, here's the funniest options that Firefox spellchecker offers as corrections to the following: Gallente - Untalented Caldari - Garibaldi (the raisin biscuits) Amarr - Amara (yawn, amarr HAVE to be the boring one :P) Minmatar - Trainman Guristas - Manicurist/Naturist Ammatar - Teammate
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.06 21:52:00 - [88] Edited by: Patch86 on 06/04/2007 21:48:37 Originally by: Vazaha Bule then there's the whole "Gallente" debate to deal with. I've always said Gal-en-tay and my caldari friend has always said Gal-en-tee but we both know what we mean. Sinq Laison - Sank Layzon Oursulaert - Ore-soo-lair imho. on a funnier note, here's the funniest options that Firefox spellchecker offers as corrections to the following: Gallente - Untalented Caldari - Garibaldi (the raisin biscuits) Amarr - Amara (yawn, amarr HAVE to be the boring one :P) Minmatar - Trainman Guristas - Manicurist/Naturist Ammatar - Teammate I've always been drawn to pronounce Gallente as "Gal-enT", with an "A" as in ant and a "T" as in.....er....ant. --------
Illyria Ambri Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.06 21:53:00 - [89] Rokh = Roke Chimera = Watch Mission Impossible 2.. they pronounce it correctly Masalle. Ma- Sal we have a street here named La Salle pronounced that way ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Happiness is a warm railgun, Love is a stocked missle launcher. Sexual extacy is watching that NME Battleship go boom. "Will i
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.06 22:11:00 - [90] Charon = fat target Minmatar = duct tape
Sheriff Jones	Posted - 2007.04.06 22:11:00 - [91] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/04/2007 22:09:10 You're all so wrong...most obviously, charon is pronounced like this! EDIT: By the by, most threads around these parts sound like this too Originally by: Curzon Dax 1. I am not singing Ducktales.
Angellyne	Posted - 2007.04.06 22:19:00 - [92] Originally by: monkeyduck Depends on the source, but the Styx is the most widely known. Read the Divine Comedy and other sources, however, and the Acheron is mentioned. If not the whole thing, Inferno is well worth the read . Or "Inferno" by Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle (authors of "The Mote in God's Eye"). A science fiction writer dies, recognizes Dante's Hell, and (being a sci-fi guy) spends most of the story convinced he was cryogenically frozen & then thawed out centuries later in some sadistic theme park. A fun read as well.
Maam	Posted - 2007.04.06 22:46:00 - [93] Originally by: Ralara It's not Charon like "ch" = chalk or "ch" = cherry It's pronounced "kair-on", as in "Cher" = Kerr in "Kerry" Care-on would be a slightly exaggerated version of it. But it's not a soft ch, it's a hard ch. As in Chemistry, Chameleon etc. Just so you can now resume sleeping at night, and all. Let me join you on teamspeak and I'll say Skellington and Windowscreen, just to annoy you! Love Sharon.
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.06 23:04:00 - [94] It can be pronouced either way. For example, the large moon orbiting pluto is called Charon, prounced with a "Sh" at the front, rather than a K. Link to a source : http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/pluto/charon.html&edu=high "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
I'mA Geezer Friends Of Derek	Posted - 2007.04.06 23:05:00 - [95] How do you pronounce "Templar"?
SiJira	Posted - 2007.04.07 06:52:00 - [96] Originally by: I'mA Geezer How do you pronounce "Templar"? temp'lahr
Bruno Capri Minmatar The Scarecrows	Posted - 2007.04.07 08:11:00 - [97] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 06/04/2007 22:09:10 You're all so wrong...most obviously, charon is pronounced like this! The Sheriff wins _______________ Fight the Power
Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2007.04.07 11:17:00 - [98] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 06/04/2007 21:48:37 Originally by: Vazaha Bule then there's the whole "Gallente" debate to deal with. I've always said Gal-en-tay and my caldari friend has always said Gal-en-tee but we both know what we mean. I've always been drawn to pronounce Gallente as "Gal-enT", with an "A" as in ant and a "T" as in.....er....ant. Create a new character and listen to how the tutorial elf pronounces it (you'll have to enable sound though ).
Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2007.04.07 11:23:00 - [99] Originally by: Kylar Renpurs I had a similar argument with my friend once about the chinese spelling of Xiau being pronounced 'Sho'. I argued it was actually correct in a sense, but also incorrect due to the nicities of the english language. Somewhere, some numptee academic studied the Chinese language way back when and decided Xiau was the proper spelling of the Chinese, as we'd pronounce 'sho'. The argument with my friend was basically over why it was spelt Xiau and pronounced 'sho', not 'zeeau'. After lots of quabbling we just agreed to disagree. Depends on whether it's the old Wade-Giles/Yale transliteration or the newer pinyin. Also depends on which dialect Xiau is being pronounced in, for example the word 黃 can be rendered as 'wong' from a Cantonese speaker or as 'huang' from a Mandarin speaker.
Lord Zoran Caldari Controlled Mayhem	Posted - 2007.04.07 12:39:00 - [100] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 07/04/2007 12:35:49 1. does the pronounciation of a word really matter (may i remind you this is only a game) 2. i always say charon like the english name sharon simply because its easier and quicker enough said --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!

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