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Buxaroo Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.04.04 18:13:00 - [601] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Buxaroo Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho Huh? Sense when does CCP reimburse for lag kills? Especially when everyone was EXPECTING lag to ensue. If that is true then why not reimburse LV or anyone else for that matter because of lag? Or how about reimbursing LV for their POS loss because goons crashed the node? Or for that matter my hyperion getting blown to hell and back thanks to Evil Thugs Titan blast because I could not decloak in time to turn on my DMG T2? As the saying goes: Proof or STFU In the BoB ASCN war I was reimbursed for a total of 4 or 5 (lost count) T2 sniper tempests due to lag. So yes, CCP certainly reimburses for that. ****ty thing was that you still lose the loot, and replacing all those T2 1400s is still a bit costly and not always easy out in 0.0. Well I mispoke. I meant that I was under the impression that CCP from now on (couple of months ago not sure) was not going to reimburse lag kills. Hell, I petitioned a kill 7-8 months ago because of the lag and getting pwned by npc rats and got my raven back, minus the mods that dropped as loot AND the insurance "No matter where you go, there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
Max Hammer Black Pearl Cartel	Posted - 2007.04.04 23:16:00 - [602] Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho yea and all of us are santa clauses rofl -----------------
Red Gabba Use Of Weapons	Posted - 2007.04.05 00:08:00 - [603] Nicely played
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.05 01:15:00 - [604] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 05/04/2007 01:12:04 Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho cool, LV can get their titan back to then. And we get our cap yards + imaginary titan back \o/ Did the POS lag? I bet it didn't. I normally don't repsond to fanbois foaming at the mouth, so i'll make an execption becus your intellectual responses keep amazing me. Allthough the pos didn't, the ones defending did lag. So it went down becus we went outta shield transfer rannge, and couldn't lock enemy dreads and kill them as fast as we should. while the attackers only had to lock 1 thing and shoot. So be less bitter, and try and see the humour in some posts, you sad man. Not that the coalition didnt have 400 pilots to jump in or anything. Of course not, completly irrelevent to the current topic of ifs and buts. Originally by: Benglada And whos going to tackle for them? Jesus?
Tisanta Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.05 03:52:00 - [605] /me wonders if people still need examples of pets lol jk ppls just came to mind after reading that pet thread =p
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.04.05 04:47:00 - [606] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 05/04/2007 01:12:04 Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho cool, LV can get their titan back to then. And we get our cap yards + imaginary titan back \o/ Did the POS lag? I bet it didn't. I normally don't repsond to fanbois foaming at the mouth, so i'll make an execption becus your intellectual responses keep amazing me. Allthough the pos didn't, the ones defending did lag. So it went down becus we went outta shield transfer rannge, and couldn't lock enemy dreads and kill them as fast as we should. while the attackers only had to lock 1 thing and shoot. So be less bitter, and try and see the humour in some posts, you sad man. Not that the coalition didnt have 400 pilots to jump in or anything. Of course not, completly irrelevent to the current topic of ifs and buts. Not that BoB's allies didn't have hundreds (I don't know the exact count) of ships in multiple fleets right nearby and not in system which would have followed the coalition support fleet in. Totally irrelevant. Look, the whole "our support wasn't allowed to jump in" debate is ridiculous. Everyone knows what would have happend. Support jumps in, node crashes, while everyone is trying to log in, more support jumps in, more coalition capitals jump in and take out POS with little resistance. Only you're forgetting the last part which I don't think the coalition would have liked so much... BoB's extra support fleets jump in after the Coalition, crashing the node again, then everyone gets to play "try to activate a module with 1500 people in local." Yes, that would have been much better. Any implication that some sort of battle involving support ships would have happened inside the system is just fantasy. At least this way your dreads were able to fire. -------------------------- There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it.
Loftur sterki Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.05 07:02:00 - [607] Bleh........ As time passes in this game nothing coming from molle or his employees is to be taken seriosly. They've lied from the beginning, it has been proofed. Grumpy old Viking
Unbeliever Kresmoreen Mercenaries of Andosia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.05 09:32:00 - [608] So the coalition finally get schooled, and hard. Your support couldn't warp in - allied support couldnt warp in. You knew it was a trap, you took the risk. I'm not getting why ANY would be reimbursed. Funny to finally see RA on the recieving end of the shafting. And the whinges and gripes that went along with it. Can someone point me to a thread where BoB have said "We only losted because of the lags, omgz lag!!1one?". Perhaps there is one, but i'm yet to see it. Your excuses will be your undoing. I'm sure class is back soon kids, don't forget your expensive mods!
Zzleeper Amarr levisomnus spectatrix	Posted - 2007.04.05 09:56:00 - [609] Well, how can we believe a word that SirMolle is telling us.. EVOL have lied in the past about having NO DEV/GM/ISD in BOB and then T20 got pulled out of the magicians hat.. All lies i tell you!
Lord Guffy Minmatar Lame Duck Logistics	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:11:00 - [610] Edited by: Lord Guffy on 05/04/2007 11:08:18 Originally by: Zzleeper Well, how can we believe a word that SirMolle is telling us.. EVOL have lied in the past about having NO DEV/GM/ISD in BOB and then T20 got pulled out of the magicians hat.. All lies i tell you! What a mature post. Oh, btw, I bet my dad could beat up your dad. And you smell.

Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:15:00 - [611] Originally by: Lord Guffy Edited by: Lord Guffy on 05/04/2007 11:08:18 Originally by: Zzleeper Well, how can we believe a word that SirMolle is telling us.. EVOL have lied in the past about having NO DEV/GM/ISD in BOB and then T20 got pulled out of the magicians hat.. All lies i tell you! What a mature post. Oh, btw, I bet my dad could beat up your dad. And you smell. your the one making yourself look like the child posting replys like that. the guy has a point molle has lied and no one belives a word of what he says now -------------------------------------------
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.05 12:19:00 - [612] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Originally by: Lord Guffy Edited by: Lord Guffy on 05/04/2007 11:08:18 Originally by: Zzleeper Well, how can we believe a word that SirMolle is telling us.. EVOL have lied in the past about having NO DEV/GM/ISD in BOB and then T20 got pulled out of the magicians hat.. All lies i tell you! What a mature post. Oh, btw, I bet my dad could beat up your dad. And you smell. your the one making yourself look like the child posting replys like that. the guy has a point molle has lied and no one belives a word of what he says now Ah...Denial, the first stage of acceptance. F4T4L Recruitment
Edison Frisk Minmatar Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.05 14:25:00 - [613] Originally by: LoxyRider Aeons are ugly tho! aint that the truth, but they tank like a *****
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.06 00:28:00 - [614] So much for the Illuminati Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.06 00:37:00 - [615] There is no truth as long as it is yours alone. --------------------------------
sci0gon Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited	Posted - 2007.04.06 02:41:00 - [616] Edited by: sci0gon on 06/04/2007 02:40:39 Edited by: sci0gon on 06/04/2007 02:39:37 Originally by: Rjindael Test Server FTW :) my advice would be to jump onto a test server and check for yourself for a anchored tower that you know to of existed on tranquility already for say 3-6 months..... i forget when the last sp update was anyway from what i've seen from the test server the current pos deployments are not active on sisi. So that should rule out your claims that they are screenshots taken from there. Originally by: darkfuntime Two Cap poses in one system. ever heard of a decoy? it is possible that they may of used that to lure you into believing that there was infact two ships being built. maybe it did have a ship building, maybe it didnt. im sure with the coalations spy network they'll soon find out Originally by: Drosselmeyer Now when other alliances attempt to use the same tactics BoB pioneered against BoB its lame explioting and the devs take steps to prevent it? how have they taken steps to stop logging in fast? i was doing that since a few months after i started playing eve. it seemed like common sense to me. Originally by: Drosselmeyer Seems fairly odd especially when people complain about how these node crash battles the coalition uses are so terrible because theres "no battle at all" Isn't that how BoB takes down enemy Titans? Making sure theres no battle at all? Of course its BoB's "skills" then right? Not lame exploiting like node crashing i believe its more to do with the game code then anything for node crashes to happen. If that was more stable then it would be able to hold more players in instead of putting a cap on the amount of players allowed into one system. Taking this information into account about the amount of players thrown into one system to cause the node to crash does benifit those who are doing so and it can be rather anoying if your in the middle of something and that happens, hence people moaning about people forcing the node to crash. I do however fail to see the point between bob taking down a enemy titan and node crashes. From what i've read on these boards, they did it through two methods; 1) Cyvok logged with agro, they probed him down and obliterated him 2) They used a alt (spy) in D2's alliance to smartbomb the titan pilot before he logged. Anyway the use of spys or killing a logged titan due to agro timer is not a exploit in my eyes. cheap kills yea but still a kill none the less. yes its true they havent actually done taken down a titan in actual combat yet but who knows what the future holds? both sides have plans and im sure mistakes will be made. For your sake (titan pilots) i hope you learn by their mistakes
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.07 07:25:00 - [617] It's not BoB's job to convince you clowns that there was no titan beyond a shadow of a doubt. The fact is that the coalition has hit a roadblock called BoB space, much like I predicted over a month ago. They have seen firsthand just how cunning and quickly bob and friends can mobilize to stop and counter any threat, as well as playing the war of attrition and slowly working down morale in the time between important battles. The north tried in fountain, go nowhere, they tried in querious, got nowhere, they tried in period basis, also got nowhere, and finally they tried in Delve, and got nowhere. Perhaps the coalition proper really hasn't had a large morale hit at this point, but I'm sure that the leadership has had one, realizing the task at hand might be more then they can handle. This then becomes a desperate situation with the leadership looking for something, ANYTHING to strike back HARD and make some progress. F-T presented this oppurtunity. The evidence for the titan being built probably started as a rumor and was let to spread as it created motivation for the cap pilots to go into what was certainly going to be a suicide op for many of them. If there was hard evidence of a Titan actually being built, I'm sure a person in a leadership position among the coalition would of made a long post with that evidence validating their sacrafice on the forums. So far no dice. All we have are footsoldiers rambling on about how BoB are liers and everything they say and their friends say is false. The plain fact is that the coalition leadership leeroyed a good portion of their capital fleet to kill a pos that they were not even certain contained a titan. I know it's a game and sometimes it's fun to just suicide into the fray and see how many you can kill, but mobilizing and ultimatly losing that kind of firepower over an unfounded rumor is pretty irresponsible. On the bright side, how bout those trit prices eh?
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:04:00 - [618] Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:59 Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:19 Originally by: Troubadour It's not BoB's job to convince you clowns ... Try to keep the level would you ?...
RaBbLe66 Amarr Amarr Dissidents Club	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:18:00 - [619] Quote: It's not BoB's job to convince you clowns that there was no titan beyond a shadow of a doubt. The fact is that the coalition has hit a roadblock called BoB space, Not much of a road block, I was in Delve Thursday and yesterday, around the Alamo and local systems I saw D2, Goons, Snigg, North East Swat, a few AAA, RAT (most of who tried to kill my poor shuttle !!) I saw a total of 2 BoB in space, lots docked , but strangely 90% of the Docked BoB were not in their stns but in NPC stns, when I hung around in a system the did indock, stay right on docking range to see who was outside, but not a single aggressive act from any of them. The Anti- BoB forces had at least 3 gate camps deep in BoB soveriegn space that I ran through. If thats a road block the coalition traffic is driving right through it..
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:44:00 - [620] Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho Getting the ships back from CCP doesnt matter, the loses are only a measure of the failure of the op. They measure 2 metrics, the failure of the leadership to produce a decent plan.. and the failure of the pilots to adapt to the situation as well as their bob eqivalents. Getting the ships returned solves neither failure.. As ppl like Malachon Draco show.. getting 4 or 5 ships returned just allows them to fail again and again.. The real question is have the appropriate ppl learnt from the failure.. That is the only measure by which the coalition can save face in this situation, and that, is a victory they cant win on the forum.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar

Hel Kali Caldari ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.04.07 10:47:00 - [621] What SirMole said : Propaganda only --------------------------------------------------------------- Eve Miner Tool
DTee The Huns Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.07 11:00:00 - [622] Edited by: DTee on 07/04/2007 10:56:15 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse There is no truth as long as it is yours alone. Right on cue. I've been waiting for a 1 liner woodhouse. You make me proud! Disclaimer: These are my personal views, they do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Izzy Pol Fear and Loathing in LoneTrek	Posted - 2007.04.07 11:18:00 - [623] Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:59 Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:19 Originally by: Troubadour It's not BoB's job to convince you clowns ... Try to keep the level would you ?... I agree. This is an insult to all hard working clowns!
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:53:00 - [624] Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:59 Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/04/2007 10:01:19 Originally by: Troubadour It's not BoB's job to convince you clowns ... Try to keep the level would you ?... I'm not here to make friends of enemies or try to give some kind of opinion that will please everyone. I simply see things for how they are and say them. If the truth hurts, so be it. But I'm simply the messenger. The attack on F-T was a blunder of epic proportions based on shotty intel and nothing more.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:58:00 - [625] Originally by: Troubadour The attack on F-T was a blunder of epic proportions based on shotty intel and nothing more. Unfortunately thats about the truth of it ... and its probably gonna be the nail in the coalition's coffin. Failure of such proportions rarely transpires without consequence.
James 315 Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp	Posted - 2007.04.07 16:18:00 - [626] Originally by: Nez Perces Unfortunately thats about the truth of it ... and its probably gonna be the nail in the coalition's coffin. Failure of such proportions rarely transpires without consequence. Maybe the consequence will be their realization that you don't blob in one system against the one-system-blob masters, and instead attack simultaneously in multiple locations? (As in the first month of the war where they attacked BoB in the north, MC in the south, and LV in the east and gobbled up station after station.) On the other hand, maybe you're right, losing those fifty capital ships is too much for D2, AAA, RedSwarm, etc. to bear and they'd better pack up and head to empire space.
sci0gon Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:16:00 - [627] Originally by: James 315 losing those fifty capital ships is too much for D2, AAA, RedSwarm, etc. to bear and they'd better pack up and head to empire space. It seems Wotankn 1 of D2's Ex titan pilots seems to have already took that step
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.07 20:36:00 - [628] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho Getting the ships back from CCP doesnt matter, the loses are only a measure of the failure of the op. They measure 2 metrics, the failure of the leadership to produce a decent plan.. and the failure of the pilots to adapt to the situation as well as their bob eqivalents. Getting the ships returned solves neither failure.. As ppl like Malachon Draco show.. getting 4 or 5 ships returned just allows them to fail again and again.. The real question is have the appropriate ppl learnt from the failure.. That is the only measure by which the coalition can save face in this situation, and that, is a victory they cant win on the forum.. And if I say the opposite of what you've just said what would you say next? Spin, spin, sugar... Maybe they were refunded, maybe not, I didn't loose one, so I can' talk from experience. But the ones that were refunded proved that CCP agrees the game malfunction and that my dear is the only proof we need. Now, go find a better spin, plz.
General Windypops Gallente Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:35:00 - [629] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: lles Originally by: hectiQ Even if BoB lost a Titan.. They are still victorious since they killed 42 Dreads and couple Carriers... A loss of around 140 Billion. Yes, but untill tonight we have got 27 dreads and a carrier back from CCP Too bad they took the insurance back tho Getting the ships back from CCP doesnt matter, the loses are only a measure of the failure of the op. They measure 2 metrics, the failure of the leadership to produce a decent plan.. and the failure of the pilots to adapt to the situation as well as their bob eqivalents. Getting the ships returned solves neither failure.. As ppl like Malachon Draco show.. getting 4 or 5 ships returned just allows them to fail again and again.. The real question is have the appropriate ppl learnt from the failure.. That is the only measure by which the coalition can save face in this situation, and that, is a victory they cant win on the forum.. And if I say the opposite of what you've just said what would you say next? Spin, spin, sugar... Maybe they were refunded, maybe not, I didn't loose one, so I can' talk from experience. But the ones that were refunded proved that CCP agrees the game malfunction and that my dear is the only proof we need. Now, go find a better spin, plz. What's more disturbing is that if even a single pilot was reimbursed for being caught squarely in a trap, it makes me wonder about the neutrality of some of those 'high up'. The Cryallition are constantly yapping about Devs in alliances of their enemies, to attempt to gain some sort of psychological advantage, but let's look at some other assessments: - Cryallition apparenlty generously refunded for what appear to be casualties on the field of war - Add to this the 'curious' incidend where all of the POSes in one of the Alliance systems were offlined in mysterious circumstances.... I'm not sure the Cryallition have much to complain about.
Saul Reaver UK Corp FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.08 03:42:00 - [630] Originally by: Silvestri time to take out your other pos... LOL, Too late! that POS will also be empty now. I'm sure BOB will be glad to take out another 40+ Dreads for yet again another empty POS. Well done BOB! Another well executed plan. "True power is something that is not earned" "True power is something you take" Jock Ewing, Dallas.



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