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Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:07:00 - [121] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine When the entirety of the opposing allied forces meets in a dramatic fleet battle and pursuit and you are the only person hiding in a station you have to get an inkling of the reason why it is we disrespect you so. So little Jasmine has seen fit to put me on trial. A trial in which she holds the position of both prosecutor, defence, judge and jury. A trial in which the defence has no right to speak. Surprisingly, I must have been convicted after a gruelling trial of several (indeed several) seconds. So now my life is forfeit and I'm doomed to live in everlasting dishonour. For those of you out there who are actually interested in hearing both sides of a story before jumping to conclusions, I can present you with the following points: A) At the time of the engagement I was nowhere near my pod interface. I didn't arrive in it until approximately an hour after the engagement. I guess some would call that an extenuating circumstance. B) I did, in fact, send a servant (some would, for some reason, label him an "alt") of mine to the proceedings as it was deemed that his field of expertise was more needed than mine. That should probably count as an extenuating circumstance as well. C) Due some inexplicable physical law of the universe we inhabit, I'm unable to interface with my pod while this servant of mine is interfacing with his. Yet another extenuating circumstance? To my mind these 3 points should prove that once again, little Jasmine has run off making wild accusations and and even wilder assumptions without even checking the facts before doing so. Having done so repeatedly already, most people would assume that she would display a willingness to learn from past mistakes. Little Jasmine has shown a remarked "reluctancy" to do so, however. Little Jasmine may be a fine fighter jock. She may even be the best in the EvE galaxy for all I know. Her performance here on IGS has been mediocre at best though. If I had been a public relations advisor to Star Fraction I'd advice her to start reconsidering her tune - is somehow distracts from the message when every other node is false. I seriously doubt little Jasmine would follow such an advice however. But there you have it - now I've even given her a golden opportunity to prove me wrong by expressing my doubts. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:10:00 - [122] Nothing needs being reconsidered, Worm. Cry foul when your vaunted 'Golden Fleets' aren't fleeing from their own capitol, not even stopping to defend your own CEO. Pathetic. You have no ground to stand on. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:13:00 - [123] Originally by: Azure Skyclad Edited by: Azure Skyclad on 08/04/2007 22:46:21 I don't expect anything from you or anyone else Octavinus. This is the simple point of understanding that you and your ilk fail to grasp. Little Jasmine already tried this line - it didn't work. SF has repeatedly complained about the tactics and strategies of PIE in this war. In other words you expect us to behave differently than we do. SF has repeatedly remarked that you expect us to let you fight your wars in any way you see fit. SF has repeatedly remarked that you expect us to let you make friends on your own terms, irregardless of obvious incompatible ideologies. I have simply asked if one cannot expect you to deal with others the same way. And so I ask, once again: If you expect others to respect your right to fight whomever you wish in whatever way you wish - should you not extend that same courtesy to others? The answer should be rather simple. A "yes" or a "no" would suffice. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:18:00 - [124] Originally by: Ituralde Nothing needs being reconsidered, Worm. Cry foul when your vaunted 'Golden Fleets' aren't fleeing from their own capitol, not even stopping to defend your own CEO. Pathetic. You have no ground to stand on. Nice try at a save Ituralde. Unfortunately you fail to relate to the issue at hand. Little Jasmine has condemned me, and to justify her condemnation, she has presented "evidence" to support her case. Unfortunately (for her) her "evidence" was flawed to say the least. Try relate to that, instead of simply inventing a new stand. Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 09:52:00 - [125] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 09:53:45 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 09:48:27 Originally by: Ituralde Nothing needs being reconsidered, Worm. Cry foul when your vaunted 'Golden Fleets' aren't fleeing from their own capitol, not even stopping to defend your own CEO. Pathetic. You have no ground to stand on. Whilst the loss of Admiral Zhuul's ship was regrettable, you appear to have put just the slightest amount of spin on the events of last night by omitting to mention the Raven, Curse, Armageddon, Dominix, Megathron, Hurricane, Myrmidon, Vagabond and two Deimoses lost by SF shortly beforehand. Now, perhaps you would care to stop focusing on your manly efforts to kill a single ship and instead concentrate on the matter in hand? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Azure Skyclad Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 10:18:00 - [126] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Little Jasmine already tried this line - it didn't work. SF has repeatedly complained about the tactics and strategies of PIE in this war. In other words you expect us to behave differently than we do. SF has repeatedly remarked that you expect us to let you fight your wars in any way you see fit. SF has repeatedly remarked that you expect us to let you make friends on your own terms, irregardless of obvious incompatible ideologies. I have simply asked if one cannot expect you to deal with others the same way. And so I ask, once again: If you expect others to respect your right to fight whomever you wish in whatever way you wish - should you not extend that same courtesy to others? The answer should be rather simple. A "yes" or a "no" would suffice. Your questions are based on flawed assumptions. I don't expect anything from anyone. I am not looking for approval for my actions. I am not extending that courtesy to others. All i expect from me is what i bring. All i expect from you is whatever you bring. If i find you lacking then i will deride you. If you stand for what you believe in then you will earn a measure of my respect whether you want it or not. It's that simple. Whatever my fellow freecaptains say is their business. SF is not monolithic so saying "SF expects....." and words to that effect is a bit silly because it's meaningless. http://ultravixen.co.uk/
Atandros Gallente Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 10:46:00 - [127] Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 09:53:45 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 09:48:27 Originally by: Ituralde Nothing needs being reconsidered, Worm. Cry foul when your vaunted 'Golden Fleets' aren't fleeing from their own capitol, not even stopping to defend your own CEO. Pathetic. You have no ground to stand on. Whilst the loss of Admiral Zhuul's ship was regrettable, you appear to have put just the slightest amount of spin on the events of last night by omitting to mention the Raven, Curse, Armageddon, Dominix, Megathron, Hurricane, Myrmidon, Vagabond and two Deimoses lost by SF shortly beforehand. Now, perhaps you would care to stop focusing on your manly efforts to kill a single ship and instead concentrate on the matter in hand? And you appear to have forgotten the other 7 battleships of yours we destroyed, as well as the total lack of resistance you put up as we chased the remnants of your fleet 5-6 jumps out of Amarr. I suppose you were too disoriented after undocking from that station in Kor-Azor Prime for the first time in days to notice too many details. -------
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 10:59:00 - [128] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus B) I did, in fact, send a servant (some would, for some reason, label him an "alt") of mine to the proceedings as it was deemed that his field of expertise was more needed than mine. That should probably count as an extenuating circumstance as well. If you send a servant to fight for you then send him to speak for you also. He'll receive a better hearing than you if he has actually undocked and exchanged fire with us in this war. Star Fraction is recruiting
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:04:00 - [129] Originally by: Rodj Blake Whilst the loss of Admiral Zhuul's ship was regrettable, you appear to have put just the slightest amount of spin on the events of last night by omitting to mention the Raven, Curse, Armageddon, Dominix, Megathron, Hurricane, Myrmidon, Vagabond and two Deimoses lost by SF shortly beforehand. Now, perhaps you would care to stop focusing on your manly efforts to kill a single ship and instead concentrate on the matter in hand? Thats quite a way to spin the greatest loss of Amarrian Fleet power in Amarr system in the last couple of years Rodj. Fact of the matter is that the PIE fleet was fought to a stand still by a smaller group and then routed by our reinforcements leading to a humiliating pursuit where you ran so fast you left first your CEO to be tackled and ceremonially executed in the ruins of her Armageddon, then your old admiral to meet the same fate a system later when your fleet scattered to the winds blown away by the Fraction storm. This is your capital system we are talking about, now it is the graveyard of your hopes and ambitions. Lets place this in the proper historical context. Star Fraction is recruiting
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:16:00 - [130] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 11:12:56 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Rodj Blake Whilst the loss of Admiral Zhuul's ship was regrettable, you appear to have put just the slightest amount of spin on the events of last night by omitting to mention the Raven, Curse, Armageddon, Dominix, Megathron, Hurricane, Myrmidon, Vagabond and two Deimoses lost by SF shortly beforehand. Now, perhaps you would care to stop focusing on your manly efforts to kill a single ship and instead concentrate on the matter in hand? Thats quite a way to spin the greatest loss of Amarrian Fleet power in Amarr system in the last couple of years Rodj. Fact of the matter is that the PIE fleet was fought to a stand still by a smaller group and then routed by our reinforcements leading to a humiliating pursuit where you ran so fast you left first your CEO to be tackled and ceremonially executed in the ruins of her Armageddon, then your old admiral to meet the same fate a system later when your fleet scattered to the winds blown away by the Fraction storm. This is your capital system we are talking about, now it is the graveyard of your hopes and ambitions. Lets place this in the proper historical context. Firstly, I disagree with pretty much everything you say (thanks for that loot, by the way). Secondly, I fail to see what SF's defeat in Amarr last night has to do with Bloodveil's links with SF. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:26:00 - [131] Ah the old talking absolute nonsense defense. Okay, enjoy life in Rodj Blake world. Star Fraction is recruiting
Octavinus Augustus Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:48:00 - [132] Originally by: Azure Skyclad Your questions are based on flawed assumptions. I don't expect anything from anyone. I am not looking for approval for my actions. I am not extending that courtesy to others. Originally by: Azure Skyclad It's that simple. Whatever my fellow freecaptains say is their business. SF is not monolithic so saying "SF expects....." and words to that effect is a bit silly because it's meaningless. So, am I to understand that when an SF official speaks on behalf of your alliance you do not feel any obligation to follow his words? When Mr. Cosmopolite in the very beginning of this thread says that "In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe" - he has no right to make such comments as they are made on your behalf as well as his own? After all, you are individualists, and not bound by the voices of others, are you not? My question was posed to SF. If you do not feel bound by the words spoken by SF officials, you should certainly not speak that can be interpreted as such. So if there are any of you out there who actually has the authority to speak on behalf on SF as an organisation, the question still stands: If you expect others to respect your right to fight whomever you wish in whatever way you wish - should you not extend that same courtesy to others? Motto: Vae Victis - Woe to the vanquished.
Azure Skyclad Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:57:00 - [133] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus So, am I to understand that when an SF official speaks on behalf of your alliance you do not feel any obligation to follow his words? Nope. If i do it's because i choose to. Quote: When Mr. Cosmopolite in the very beginning of this thread says that "In the coming weeks, the Star Fraction is resolved to demonstrate that the very heartlands of the Amarr Empire are unsafe" - he has no right to make such comments as they are made on your behalf as well as his own? He has every right to as I didn't object to him being a spokesman for Star Fraction. I may dislike the turd on a personal level but he has a way with words which suits him to his job. If i disagree with SF at any point i voice my dissent. If i feel strongly enough i leave SF. Simple. Quote: After all, you are individualists, and not bound by the voices of others, are you not? Bang on. Quote: My question was posed to SF. If you do not feel bound by the words spoken by SF officials, you should certainly not speak that can be interpreted as such. Hence the liberal use of I in my response. Still part of SF though. Is your noodle done twisting yet? Quote: So if there are any of you out there who actually has the authority to speak on behalf on SF as an organisation, the question still stands: If you expect others to respect your right to fight whomever you wish in whatever way you wish - should you not extend that same courtesy to others? Yes there are those who can speak for the organisation as a whole. The point i'm making is you cannot pin the whole alliance down with a simple Yes or No answer to a stupid question. The only answer you can hope for is a rough time both here on IGS and in space. http://ultravixen.co.uk/
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:45:00 - [134] Edited by: Archbishop on 09/04/2007 13:42:15 Quote: The only answer you can hope for is a rough time both here on IGS and in space. Like a biology experiment it's always nice to see creatures in their native habitat! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Khavi Vetali Team Americas Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 14:28:00 - [135] Originally by: Archbishop Edited by: Archbishop on 09/04/2007 13:42:15 Quote: The only answer you can hope for is a rough time both here on IGS and in space. Like a biology experiment it's always nice to see creatures in their native habitat! Archbishop Well, at least SF exists in multiple biospheres... Oooh look! I can make biology jokes too! Originally by: Itanis "Hello there mate, I'm dreadfully sorry, but I'm going to have to sodomize you with howitzers. Have a lovely day!"
Goewyn Ravenclaw Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:19:00 - [136] Edited by: Goewyn Ravenclaw on 09/04/2007 15:18:13 Originally by: Rodj Blake [i]...succeeded in their aims and caused the destruction of the Empire (almost unimaginable, I know). Only 'almost' unimaginable? I find it a rather warming thought to see one of the empires more faithful has considered it as an imaginable possibility. One wonders if his faith is as total as we are led to believe..... (Edit: spelling :P) ______________________________ A closed mouth inserts no foot
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:27:00 - [137] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/04/2007 17:23:33 Originally by: Goewyn Ravenclaw Edited by: Goewyn Ravenclaw on 09/04/2007 15:18:13 Originally by: Rodj Blake ...succeeded in their aims and caused the destruction of the Empire (almost unimaginable, I know). Only 'almost' unimaginable? I find it a rather warming thought to see one of the empires more faithful has considered it as an imaginable possibility. One wonders if his faith is as total as we are led to believe..... (Edit: spelling :P) I can (if I try really hard) imagine a witty and erudite member of Fimbulwinter. It doesn't automatically follow that such a thing is possible though. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ituralde Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.04.09 17:56:00 - [138] Originally by: Archbishop Edited by: Archbishop on 09/04/2007 13:42:15 Quote: The only answer you can hope for is a rough time both here on IGS and in space. Like a biology experiment it's always nice to see creatures in their native habitat! Archbishop I sure hope you don't claim space as your natural habitat, worm. Your personal showing in battle is laughable. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
redialer Minmatar Red Army Inc	Posted - 2007.07.20 01:05:00 - [139] meh.. tis all smak tbh. we both know the score, bring it to us ;) red1 FREEDOM
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.20 21:36:00 - [140] Let's get back on topic shall we Rodj? You have stated that the Bloodveil is jealous of the Amarr Empire. However, throughout history, it was the Empire trying to exterminate the Sani Sabik. I submit to you it is the Empire and its sheep that is jealous of the Sani Sabik. After all the Empire, for it's centuries of existence has tried to exterminate on Athra (and failed) and then try to destroy us among the stars (another failure). I should point out as well you speak of an Empire. But where's the Emperor. Where's the leadership? Scattered into the winds. Now various offices are attempting to act in the Empire's name. Without your precious Emperor as the foundation, the Empire has started to decay from within. It will be only a matter of time before the The Mandate and the Kingdom start setting eyes on Amarr itself. The Star Fraction displayed the ease of the attack. And the Loyalist bloc showed its cowardice. I would think on the day when the Empire Falls (not "if") there will be quite a few entities feeding from that corpse. Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.

Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.07.21 05:50:00 - [141] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel we become unstoppable Join the fighting and then you can use the word "we" in this context. QFT... Or should you run from your precious empire as have your fellow corporations members?
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 07:54:00 - [142] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Let's get back on topic shall we Rodj? You have stated that the Bloodveil is jealous of the Amarr Empire. However, throughout history, it was the Empire trying to exterminate the Sani Sabik. I submit to you it is the Empire and its sheep that is jealous of the Sani Sabik. After all the Empire, for it's centuries of existence has tried to exterminate on Athra (and failed) and then try to destroy us among the stars (another failure). I should point out as well you speak of an Empire. But where's the Emperor. Where's the leadership? Scattered into the winds. Now various offices are attempting to act in the Empire's name. Without your precious Emperor as the foundation, the Empire has started to decay from within. It will be only a matter of time before the The Mandate and the Kingdom start setting eyes on Amarr itself. The Star Fraction displayed the ease of the attack. And the Loyalist bloc showed its cowardice. I would think on the day when the Empire Falls (not "if") there will be quite a few entities feeding from that corpse. Well spoken Illuminatti. I'm surprised that the true blood loyal to Khanid II didn't realise this yet. Amarr never been so weak. It's the perfect time for a take over. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.21 08:10:00 - [143] Originally by: Casserina Leshrac Let's get back on topic shall we Rodj? You have stated that the Bloodveil is jealous of the Amarr Empire. However, throughout history, it was the Empire trying to exterminate the Sani Sabik. I submit to you it is the Empire and its sheep that is jealous of the Sani Sabik. After all the Empire, for it's centuries of existence has tried to exterminate on Athra (and failed) and then try to destroy us among the stars (another failure). I should point out as well you speak of an Empire. But where's the Emperor. Where's the leadership? Scattered into the winds. Now various offices are attempting to act in the Empire's name. Without your precious Emperor as the foundation, the Empire has started to decay from within. It will be only a matter of time before the The Mandate and the Kingdom start setting eyes on Amarr itself. The Star Fraction displayed the ease of the attack. And the Loyalist bloc showed its cowardice. I would think on the day when the Empire Falls (not "if") there will be quite a few entities feeding from that corpse. It's good to see a detailed response from Bloodveil. It may be a bit lightweight for something that's taken three months to prepare, but never mind. I shall respond to your points in the order that they were submitted. I maintain that Bloodveil is jealous of the successes of the Empire. Why else would a smaller group seek to overthrow a larger, more successful one? Why else would the smaller group seek to corrupt all that is good about the larger one? If the Bloodveil had actually achieved anything of merit during its life, then there might be a case for saying that jealousy was not the driving force behind their actions. However, when on one hand we have the most successful political and theological social structures ever seen in human history, and on the other we have a sect that seeks to conquer the whole of the cluster and yet whose greatest achievements are the organisation of****tail parties, then it's clear that jealousy is the driving force behind the bile and hatred on display. Now onto your claims that the Empire is without leadership. One of the great strengths of the Amarrian political system is its decentralised nature. Individual heirs, holders and ministries all have clearly defined roles in our society, and have been getting on with their jobs during the interregnum. Whilst we rely on an Emperor for guidance and it is preferable to have an Emperor rather than be without one, the Empire is more than capable of surviving and prospering during those periods between the death of one and the coronation of another. Finally, your assertion that the Star Fraction's efforts have shown the Empire to be weak and that the Kingdom and Mandate will soon be capitalising on this. Relations between the Empire and its neighbours have never been better. Both the Kingdom and the Mandate know that they have more to gain from co-operation with the Empire than from conflict. As for the Star Fraction, their impact upon PIE was minimal (in fact, PIE is in many ways stronger now than before the SF's ill-judged declaration of war on us) and their impact upon the Empire was non-existant. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.*
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 08:40:00 - [144] You talk of Bloodveil as an Empire itself, which, in many ways it holds truth. But saying that Bloodveil is jealous because we don't hold Sovereignity of geographic spaces or stations with agents and such in comparison to Amarr is quite too much of a way out, even for you Rodj. Blood veil has achieved each and every single objective I set for it, since it's creation. From the bossom of Dark Seraph as an exclusive cult of our holy personalities, bloodveil came forth declaring a little of our faith and making an impact in the cluster. This, all by our own hands with no need of Dead emperors, Gods or misguided lies. We are invincible because we exist firmly and stronger with no dependence of other people's faith. Now let's turn the coin. What is PIE without Amarr Empire? What is your faith other then a faith given to you by the Amarr Authorities. What is your supposed strengh, other than a non existant entity you call God. What have you created, what have you accomplished by yourself other than feeding on the rest that Amarr let fall from its table. The Sani Sabik has order and leadership under my Sovereignity. Amarr has chaos and weakness under a dead Emperor. The Sani Sabik movements and owns fortunes by the machines of politics and wars. You depend of your whoring tactics with Amarrian agents to have the bread of each day on your table. Let me remind you of the failure of The cult of Cathequization and it's leader, the official inquisition of Amarr Empire that came here and sworn to eliminate Bloodveil and specialy myself. The final result being several of their corpses on my hangar and the extermination of their own institution. Even the Amarr Empire itself could not stop the mighty of Bloodveil. What makes you fear Rodj is the inevitable and sole truth: To fight a ideology you need to present something better. Amarr is a dying Empire. You're a dying breed. The Sani Sabik fills the void with a new World Order. We shall wash the floor when your dust is all that is left covering the golden streets of the capital. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.21 08:55:00 - [145] Lots of rhetoric there Revan, but let's look at Bloodveil's recent history: Bloodveil failed to make any impact on the inhabitants of the Fensi system, despite their claims. Bloodveil failed to achieve any more than the lowest of pirates in the Kheram system, despite their claims. Bloodveil has still to get anywhere near the empty system of Atioth, despite their call to arms. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 09:10:00 - [146] Originally by: Rodj Blake Lots of rhetoric there Revan, but let's look at Bloodveil's recent history: Bloodveil failed to make any impact on the inhabitants of the Fensi system, despite their claims. Bloodveil failed to achieve any more than the lowest of pirates in the Kheram system, despite their claims. Bloodveil has still to get anywhere near the empty system of Atioth, despite their call to arms. Lies and empty rethoric out of your ignorance Fensi planet still prosperes under Blodveil religion majority and tributes are paid to me weekly of several institutions. Actually, the system only properes still because I'm kind enough to continue business there. Fensi without Bloodveil money would fall into poverty. Several systems of Amarr already knows they can't count on loyalists to maintain their economical stability, as your greedy selfish kind never invests to see your people propere. Fensi is jus one example of the Glory of the Sani Sabik. Bloodveil eliminated over two thousand vessels in a month presence at the region, making our objective complete with disruptions of paramilitary logistics including the destruction of some dizzy loyalists pilots who happened to cross our ways. Bloodveil presence at Kheran was absolute and when the amarrian wars became no longer an issue by complete dominance and victory of Star Fraction, Bloodveil also moved to it's next steps. The only failure here was your defeat and lack of ability to stop the mayhem Bloodveil was able to cause. Atioth is An Amarr obligation, Bloodveil is just leading the expedition. Bloodveil already allocated several capital vessels to system and the operations proceeds unstopable. The only failure is again, the lack of Amarr loyalist presence. The words "Loyalists" and "failure" are synonyms. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Casserina Leshrac Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 16:27:00 - [147] An observation if may? In the past the Empire looks towards the Emperor. Throughout my schooling it was this one person that held the Empire together. If the empire was a brick house, the Emperor the mortar. Even the Royal Chamberlain has remained quiet and I am to understand he rules in place of Emperor, when he is absent. Where is he? The Emperor is gone. The house is falling and you don't have the sense to get out. One of principal problems is the decentralized nature of the government. As a result each office, each agency is a power onto itself. Each has the ability to generate its own fund to further its own agenda contrary to the true needs of the Empire. In addition, where was the Imperial Navy during the invasion of Amarr? Protecting jump gates in accordance to CONCORD policy. To say that this was only corp vs. corp war between PIE and SF would be grossly incorrect.The spiritual and physical center of the Empire was occupied by an enemy force that dominated the whole system. In times before CONCORD, the Navy would not put up with such nonsense. Not when the Emperor's seat and the Theology Council are vulnerable to attack from either side. The Navy would've ended the war quickly and efficiently and then set upon the task to lay the blame. It is evident to those in the Sani Sabik that the Empire of old is dead. There is no Emperor, the government is in chaos (though you deny it Rodj), and its people have become slaves and servants to CONCORD. I predict that it will be matter of time before the Khanid or the Ammatar will make a move to centralize the Empire under their banners because it will be in their best interests to do so. And they, like others that came before them, will have to deal with the Sani Sabik. This time we'll be holding the keys to the gate Casserina Sani Sabik Illuminatus From the Darkness I sow the seeds of Chaos.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.21 17:49:00 - [148] Originally by: Revan Neferis The words "Loyalists" and "failure" are synonyms. Have a look at Providence, little girl. Your worth is easily measured in dust, while the Empire stands strong. However, the post count attributed to your stupidity is impressive. ----------------------------------------------
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.07.21 19:38:00 - [149] Originally by: Gaius Kador Originally by: Revan Neferis The words "Loyalists" and "failure" are synonyms. Have a look at Providence, little girl. Your worth is easily measured in dust, while the Empire stands strong. However, the post count attributed to your stupidity is impressive. Good heaven's when I think you have exposed all your stupidity it comes more! Providence is not even AMARR EMPIRE SOVEREIGNITY you ignorant animal. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.21 21:34:00 - [150] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Gaius Kador Originally by: Revan Neferis The words "Loyalists" and "failure" are synonyms. Have a look at Providence, little girl. Your worth is easily measured in dust, while the Empire stands strong. However, the post count attributed to your stupidity is impressive. Providence is not even AMARR EMPIRE SOVEREIGNITY you ignorant animal. Clever deflection, but let's remember: Providence is a measurable success of loyalists. A success beyond which Bloodveil has experienced on any level: military, economic, or idealogically.



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