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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:00:00 -
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With the latest blog about nerfing the Privateer Alliance, thus cementing the notion that PvE players shouldn't need to PvP if they don't want to, I demand that us PvP players are treated equally.
To support my PvP I am forced to operate a second account and grind missions, something I find extremely lame and boring. I am thus forced to PvE against my will in order to engage in the parts of the game I enjoy. This is completely unfair.
In order to rectify this and bring equality back into the game I would propose that PvP players get a separate market where all mods are available free of charge. The PvE players can keep their own market. Further, all our ships should be free, and we shouldn't have to pay for clones or implants.
Implement these changes so that us PvP players can engage in PvP and not be forced into PvE against our will.
Thank you.
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Sergio Ling
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:02:00 -
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/signed
*Snips* for profanity - Timmeh
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This is a Shuttle. It is used to assign Templars, Amarrian fighter drones used by Carriers. They don't tank very well. - Alyth |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:02:00 -
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Fun, a Privateer asking for istancing in market.
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Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Venkul Mul
Fun, a Privateer asking for istancing in market.
*whoosh*
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Indigo Fade is now selling jumpclones for
superb prices, please see Marquis Dean's bio
and/or evemail/convo him ingame.
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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Fun, a Privateer asking for istancing in market.
Do your homework better, laddie. I've never been a part of the Privateers.
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:04:00 -
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Errr.. its a tonge in cheek post ya?.. I need more coffe......
if its not.. no risk=no fun=every other MMO?
Learn More: Privateers Recruitment
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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Errr.. its a tonge in cheek post ya?.. I need more coffe......
if its not.. no risk=no fun=every other MMO?
I think it's only a fair adaptation of the normal PvE player's demand to not be forced into PvP. I only feel that equal treatment for all is the way to go.
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Naike Pwns
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Naike Pwns on 18/04/2007 13:02:57
Make a system like in guild wars.
You chreate a new character, you can choose your equip., skills (what you have unlocked with your role playing character) and you get all for free, then you can later on buy equip., skills for "PvP money".
Ofcourse the PvE characters could PvP too.
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:08:00 -
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wow yes also respawning to the same location and buying free t2 fitted ships to jump into battle agian .. wow impressive ideas ..
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:09:00 -
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You're a few months too late, the bandwagon rolled past back when, after taking a dump on the tech II market.
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Mangus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:13:00 -
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I have THE solution: PvP on the test server. Every mod if basically free, and you can sit all day outside 4-4 station in Jita and brag in local how uber you are 
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hUssmann
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: hUssmann on 18/04/2007 13:11:08
I'm waiting for someone to mention SiSi is the place for free PvP.
EDIT: I refer you to the above post. My fee is now due.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:24:00 -
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Ah such threads make my day. Good one 
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Rodger Young
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
*snip*
/Ki
want a cookie with that?
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Vanye Inovske
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:28:00 -
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Wasn't there just a dev blog on this topic? The new ôGeneric Hosts for Optimal Secure Transportö clones sounded very intriguing. 
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Penny Priddy
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
thus cementing the notion that PvE players shouldn't need to PvP if they don't want to
Here's where you went off the rails. The change to wardec pricing (which you refer to as "nerfing the Privateer Alliance") doesn't prevent Empire PvP in any way, shape or form. All of your complaints about being forced to play in a certain way stem from that confused interpretation of the changes. Empire wars will continue, 'bears will still get ganked, cries of "Griefer!" will still abound.
I do find it very amusing that you label people as either PvP or PvE players, but unless you can gank the PvE crowd then zomg PvP is borked.
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Ker Ching
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:42:00 -
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Obviously, in reply to the OP, you need to win more fights and get more loot. That's how PvPers make their money.
Or how about the good old days of ransoming instead of just killing to get the mail for the e-peen board.
I can just imaging Blackbeard losing the Q.A.R. and swimming back to Port Royale asking for a free replacement. "Well I should be entitled to one, seeing as the traders are protected by the Navy.!"
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:49:00 -
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You already have that Ki An, its called SiSi.
Want to pew pew all day against everyone without any cost or repercussions there is your answer.
As for the "nerf" of the Privateers, that wasn't a PvP nerf, that was a warning that you can't wardec everyone all the time. If the Privateers had stayed with their original concept of only deccing the big 0.0 alliances it wouldn't have happened, but instead they went on this little rampage and wardecced 149 alliances and corps in one week. Then claimed they were going to again.
Foot, meet mouth.
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Keiron: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ker Ching
Obviously, in reply to the OP, you need to win more fights and get more loot. That's how PvPers make their money.
Or how about the good old days of ransoming instead of just killing to get the mail for the e-peen board.
I can just imaging Blackbeard losing the Q.A.R. and swimming back to Port Royale asking for a free replacement. "Well I should be entitled to one, seeing as the traders are protected by the Navy.!"
Well, you do still get insurance, even if you're being naughty...
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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:53:00 -
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So PvP should be limited to the test server? Meanwhile on Tranquility, PvP players are still forced to participate in PvE and PvE players can opt out of PvP. This issue isn't adressed in any of the replies.
Why should I have to do something I don't enjoy in order to enjoy other parts of the game if Joe Carebear gets to opt out of the things he don't like and only focus on grinding for isk?
/me is having a lot of fun reading the replies
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:55:00 -
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Privateers didn't put enough effort into recruiting Dev or GM alts clearly.
The Privateers are the biggest war in Eve, certainly in terms of tears shed. The pointless war against Devs in BoB and LV is just a blip compared to what Privateers acheived.
Privateers didn't reward known cheaters with entertaining PvP, unlike the donkeys who think BoB deserve more Eve.
Alas they didn't get enough headlines or column inches in the media or the Eve login "news". So the Secret Aurora program is doing away with this huge war because it hasn't returned the kind of results a bunch of cheating exploiting liars has.
I don't think PvP is dead. It just got kicked in the nuts and will be taking deep breaths for a while.
PvE ain't that bad though, as long as you don't do it too often. Although I am a little bit sick of my 100% "Dead End" record on Expeditions.
Here's hoping that the next bandwagon is bigger, better and far more intrusive than Privateers ever were. Anything is better than 0.0 and not knowing whether your enemy is bankrolled by CCP or not, but it's even better if your bandwagon is actually interesting in itself.
Eve: Cheats prosper. |
GimmeeThat
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Posted - 2007.04.18 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
With the latest blog about nerfing the Privateer Alliance, thus cementing the notion that PvE players shouldn't need to PvP if they don't want to, I demand that us PvP players are treated equally.
To support my PvP I am forced to operate a second account and grind missions, something I find extremely lame and boring. I am thus forced to PvE against my will in order to engage in the parts of the game I enjoy. This is completely unfair.
In order to rectify this and bring equality back into the game I would propose that PvP players get a separate market where all mods are available free of charge. The PvE players can keep their own market. Further, all our ships should be free, and we shouldn't have to pay for clones or implants.
Implement these changes so that us PvP players can engage in PvP and not be forced into PvE against our will.
Thank you.
/Ki
You claim you are not a privateer, yet you are one of their biggest whiners  Something doesn't smell right Ki, why do you care so much. You're in low sec so why should you care, it doesn't effect you right?
Do you think we where all born yesterday? You're are either the biggest nut swinging ass kisser or you're a privateer.
With that said, learn to adapt and stop asking for ridiculous things. I will also add that YOU yes YOU pulled a lot of attention to the privateers with your stupid requests. You shot yourself in the foot mate.
GG
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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: GimmeeThat
You claim you are not a privateer, yet you are one of their biggest whiners Something doesn't smell right Ki, why do you care so much. You're in low sec so why should you care, it doesn't effect you right?
Do you think we where all born yesterday? You're are either the biggest nut swinging ass kisser or you're a privateer.
With that said, learn to adapt and stop asking for ridiculous things. I will also add that YOU yes YOU pulled a lot of attention to the privateers with your stupid requests. You shot yourself in the foot mate.
GG
You know there is a magic function in game called "People and Places". There you can see *gasp* the employment histories of various characters, including me.
The reason I care is because of the glaring injustice involved in that my playstyle gets continually shat on while the isk farmers and carebears (who just as well could be playing WoW or happy-go-lucky-let's-hug-each-other-land-adventure) gets all the love.
Here's my ultimatum. Either you, CCP, implement these changes so that I can have fun, or I will have fun by especially targetting the weakest carebear corps I can find and continually hound them until they quit EvE.
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
GimmeeThat
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: GimmeeThat
You claim you are not a privateer, yet you are one of their biggest whiners Something doesn't smell right Ki, why do you care so much. You're in low sec so why should you care, it doesn't effect you right?
Do you think we where all born yesterday? You're are either the biggest nut swinging ass kisser or you're a privateer.
With that said, learn to adapt and stop asking for ridiculous things. I will also add that YOU yes YOU pulled a lot of attention to the privateers with your stupid requests. You shot yourself in the foot mate.
GG
You know there is a magic function in game called "People and Places". There you can see *gasp* the employment histories of various characters, including me.
The reason I care is because of the glaring injustice involved in that my playstyle gets continually shat on while the isk farmers and carebears (who just as well could be playing WoW or happy-go-lucky-let's-hug-each-other-land-adventure) gets all the love.
Here's my ultimatum. Either you, CCP, implement these changes so that I can have fun, or I will have fun by especially targetting the weakest carebear corps I can find and continually hound them until they quit EvE.
/Ki
You see there is this little thing called alts and alt accounts. Soooo yeah lol..
and way to try to get what you want, extortion with no leverage what so ever. Geee I think I will call my bank this morning and tell them to transfer all the money into my account or I am going to go spare change next to the atm machine outside. |
Joop
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: GimmeeThat
** Stuff **
Lol .. you sir, dont know what you are talking about
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BoBoZoBo
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:13:00 -
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Where does it say they got rid of non consentual PVP?
All they did was take away your little safety net. LOL
You can still wardec AFAIK.. now you just need to have a purpose for it...
They should change your name to the PrivaTears
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Asuo
The Wild Hunt
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:14:00 -
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Umm, ok bud if this is so then I want a titan to freely spawn for me each day cos who know I might loss one.
FFS dude, why the hell should pvpers get free stuff when the rest of us have to grind for it come on stop the wining carp mate.
I grind to buy stuff so I can shoot people so why the hell can't you FFS. The latest stuff will help the game and if you can't see that then yea guild waers is for you bud.
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Ki An
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: GimmeeThat
With that said, learn to adapt and stop asking for ridiculous things. I will also add that YOU yes YOU pulled a lot of attention to the privateers with your stupid requests. You shot yourself in the foot mate.
GG
When I think about it, this is quite an interesting paragraph. You're basically saying that CCP didn't nerf the Privateers because it was necessary, but because of too much forum ruckus. This means that you will openly admit that CCP caved in to the whiners, and the carebears won the day because of excessive forum whinage.
Perhaps we PvPers can give this a go now. I say, shut down NPC corps, force people into low-sec, and further nerf warp core stabilizers.
Come on, boys. If enough of us whine they'll eventually change it.
/Ki
Remember, kids:
Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"! |
Beef Hardslab
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
To support my PvP I am forced to operate a second account and grind missions, something I find extremely lame and boring. I am thus forced to PvE against my will in order to engage in the parts of the game I enjoy. This is completely unfair.
No, you are not. If you cannot come up with other ways to make isk, it is not the game's fault.
Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Kahrek Laume
Gallente
Mirage Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.18 14:25:00 -
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Eve should include a disclaimer.
Warning, by leaving (Yournoobcorpnamehere) you are exposing yourself to loss of ISK, ships, pods, implants, sanity, virginity, innocence, fingers, toes. Warning players corps are not for everybody side effects may include: Being wardecced, wardeccing others, station camping, gate camping, corp chat about your mom, corp chat about other's moms, retarded CEOs, epeen waiving. Should you suffer from any of these side effects we recomend you discontinue use of players corps immediatly and consult your local EB games for a copy of WoW.
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