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Marquis Dean
Indigo Fade
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Countess NotFarOut2 For all the pro-Mainers, send me your:
Full RL name & address All your telephonenumbers Your main email address Your age
...other RL knowledge which might come in handy. Since you all have guts and balls(even some ladies...) you should have no problem with providing me that info.
Stupidest thing I have ever seen on these forums. Don't be a ****.
--- Indigo Fade is now selling jumpclones for superb prices, please see Marquis Dean's bio and/or evemail/convo him ingame.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Noluck Ned Now dec us, please.
Ok.
Haha, you already have.
We have only been at war with Privateers since the 3rd day our alliance was formed. Before that we were at war with you for the last month or two we were in LV. Lol I just realised, I have had non-stop active empire wars for 9 solid months now.
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Miss Anthropy
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:51:00 -
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This thread is totally pointless and deserves to be locked. It's just flame-bait basically.
Posting with your main or with an alt... who cares? Really, there are more important things in life. Such as pizza.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Countess NotFarOut2 For all the pro-Mainers, send me your: Full RL name & address All your telephonenumbers Your main email address Your age ...other RL knowledge which might come in handy. Since you all have guts and balls(even some ladies...) you should have no problem with providing me that info.
I'd have no qualms in adding such info to my forum profile, but it would get "deleted for my own sake" by some mod. I routinely add such info (main email / (mobile) phone number / birthdate) to most places I have profiles in, if they might do any good whatsoever.
What can you do, spam my email ? I already recveive plenty of spam, and it doesn't affect me at all. Call my phone at odd hours ? I'm used to that already, due to the work I do. I'd even give you my home address, but I doubt you could do ANYTHING bad with it, and it would aid you in no way (city of Baia Mare, Romania), so more detailed info, you don't need.
The privacy issue "scare" is way too overrated. ___
Besides, as I was saying... instead of the culture of "forum warrior alts", I'd rather see the option to post (partially) anonymously instead (corp/alliance tags optional, but no portrait/CID anywhere). _ MySkills | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 23/04/2007 13:54:15
Originally by: Zee Zen
What can the average young player gain from posting here with a main?
What business does the average young player have coming into alliance discussions only to post flames/trollage?
I doubt anyone ever got wardecced over a valid question in the new members forums. Basically I feel that if you want to be offensive you should be forced to suffer the consequences. If you feel the pressing need to impart your opinion you should be willing to back it up.
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PostWithYourMain
Main Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.23 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari These are the EVE Online forums, not 4chan.
Anonymous is not legion here.
Posting with your main means you have the balls to back up your opinion.
If you're posting with an alt, it is clear that you do not trust your own words enough to back them up with your own name, and so they are meaningless.
/raise hand It is clear that I, PostWithYourMain, do not trust my own words enough to back them up with my own...name. Thus, my words are meaningless. Amen.
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:03:00 -
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Essentially, you only need to use an alt forum warrior if you tend to say stupid things, smack or generally make yourself look like an ass or stupid often. If you can avoid the Jenkyll-Hyde transformation which the internet produces now and then there is really no reason to post with an alt.
The only situations where I can understand altposts is for buying "delicate" items, like motherships.
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Chewan Mesa
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zee Zen
Originally by: Dark Shikari ... Posting with your main means you have the balls to back up your opinion.
If you're posting with an alt, it is clear that you do not trust your own words enough to back them up with your own name, and so they are meaningless.
This is the kind of post that prompted me to start this thread. If people want to post with a 'main', go for it, but I stick by my original claim that the vast majority of people have absolutely nothing to gain from it and some risk.
Well, if you re-read what DS said, there is indeed something to gain from posting with a main, and something you lose if you post with an alt.
It's called credibility.
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Noluck Ned Now dec us, please.
Ok.
LoL! --
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: PostWithYourMain
Originally by: Dark Shikari These are the EVE Online forums, not 4chan.
Anonymous is not legion here.
Posting with your main means you have the balls to back up your opinion.
If you're posting with an alt, it is clear that you do not trust your own words enough to back them up with your own name, and so they are meaningless.
/raise hand It is clear that I, PostWithYourMain, do not trust my own words enough to back them up with my own...name. Thus, my words are meaningless. Amen.
I just giggled uncontrollably at your signature
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:17:00 -
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Problem with being able to post with alts is that it leads to unnecessary trolling and flame-baiting. On an alt you can be a total nuisance without consequences apart from what the mods have time for. With only main posts, things on the forum could affect you in-game. I think that's a good thing.
I would welcome a notification in the forums telling me when a poster is an alt or not. I would also welcome means to filter those posts out. Frankly though, given the state of these forums, I'd settle for a working version of the forums.
Then again, I think alts should not be allowed anyway, inside and outside the game. The metagaming possible (and happening) with alts is incredible. --
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:37:00 -
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I post with my main, because I'm not afraid to make my opinion known. It is my opinion that when you're afraid of posting with your main, you're probably better off not posting. Ya'know, like trolling, being annoying, or otherwise being 'online antisocial'.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:50:00 -
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I don't consider myself a representative of my corp when i'm ****ing around on the forums, and quite frankly, neither do StateCorp. I think they're secretly glad about all the new reds i find them.
That said, i do make an effort not to disparage whole alliances/corps, or bring in-game events to the forum. Not because i'm worried they'll shoot me more, but because it makes you look like a bit of a *****.
Personally I think lots of people take Eve far too seriously. Even if you spend hundreds of dollars a year, neglect whatever remaining IRL friends you have and command fear and respect galaxy-wide, it's still only a computer game and you're still just a slightly nerdy meatbag sat in front of a computer.
Hell, All it takes is for the XML character stats bobbins to go down and all of a sudden OFMG THE SKY IS FALLING!
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zee Zen
Originally by: Dark Shikari ... Posting with your main means you have the balls to back up your opinion.
If you're posting with an alt, it is clear that you do not trust your own words enough to back them up with your own name, and so they are meaningless.
This is the kind of post that prompted me to start this thread. If people want to post with a 'main', go for it, but I stick by my original claim that the vast majority of people have absolutely nothing to gain from it and some risk.
What can the average young player gain from posting here with a main?
What can the average corp gain from having a bunch of their members posting? Maybe if they're all real nice and helpful, it helps with recruiting and politics (but maybe not, if they're helping other corps too much).
What I'm saying is that if you want your opinion to be considered valid by others, if you want to have credibility in a discussion, you have to post with your main.
If you don't desire credibility, or the thread you're posting in doesn't need credibility to engage in discussion, posting with an alt is fine.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:52:00 -
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ps. this is my main.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari What I'm saying is that if you want your opinion to be considered valid by others, if you want to have credibility in a discussion, you have to post with your main.
That's subjective, tbh.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Originally by: Dark Shikari What I'm saying is that if you want your opinion to be considered valid by others, if you want to have credibility in a discussion, you have to post with your main.
That's subjective, tbh.
Subjective, sure, but if you go to the COAD forums and post a whine about D2, BoB, Goonfleet, or whoever with your alt, you're not going to be taken remotely seriously.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:00:00 -
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COAD makes everybody look stupid.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari These are the EVE Online forums, not hello kitty island adventure.
Anonymous is not legion here.
Posting with your main means you have the balls to back up your opinion.
If you're posting with an alt, it is clear that you do not trust your own words enough to back them up with your own name, and so they are meaningless.
Fixed. And remember rules #1 and #2.
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sbreach
Gallente PezCo - Ice Services Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: sbreach on 23/04/2007 15:01:06 I usually post with my main unless I miss click or in a silly type thread, aka the shuttles don't tank very well one.
As for benefits and negatives, well i do not mind posting as I'm pretty sure what i post will not cause unnecessary consequences on me or to my corp or alliance I'm in. Sure if you are really important in some position in game or have quite a big reputation or reputation in game but not on the forums it could be a problem. But while i have neither and being just another player in the universe I'm quite happy posting with my main.
I find it a lot more beneficial to be unknown then to be known. But that's just my experience in other games, I'd guess it's the same here.
That and there's only 2 handles i use so not much choice for me.
Quote: Angering your corp / alliance for disagreeing with them or making them look stupid.
Well as long as I'm not stupid I think I will not do any damage here.
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Dal Thrax
Caldari Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Monica Foulkes
Originally by: Zee Zen A few of the risks: Making enemies with your viewpoint / metagame. Drawing unnecessary attention to yourself -- potential for wardecs / griefing / etc.
I don't see a problem with those points tbh.
Now if people did grow a spine and stopped hiding behind alts this forum would be a much better place.
Well at least I don't have to worry about getting my corp wardecced by the Privateers, shooting commences in 24 hours.
Dal
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StealthRavenx
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:52:00 -
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I will always post with my main, because I want my points of view well known to one character, one that everyone knows me by, and not random opinions from an alt nobody knows. And if I cant control myself on the forums so that nobody gets ****ed at Me or my corp, then I shouldn't be posting. Tis that simple. ________________________________________
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Cute SpyGirl
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:59:00 -
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Zee Zen.. at this point, it doesn't matter anymore. Most of the war'dec have destroyed most of the carebearer corps. Our only choice now is to leave EvE Online or goto NPC corps. Most of my friends are already gone, I know they are not coming back to EvE Online. Look around the empire, I don't think people care anymore.. it is grand theft auto in space.
Please don't try to flame this.. I know it is PvP. Before the revelations update, it takes people time to war'dec us. By no mean it was not the 1st solution to solve problems. Now any alts and 14-day trail account can war'dec w/ 1 Mil SP. War'Dec destroys corps ability to recruit, train, travel, and mine in peace. In short, War'Dec eliminates all friendship frabic of a corp. Anyway.. who cares right?
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Ralara
Caldari Lilandri Foundation
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Posted - 2007.04.23 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zee Zen So many people complain about alts and people not having the guts to post with their main, but to me the only stupid people are the ones who post with their main. There are some very important exceptions -- recruiting, corp/alliance public relations, defending against accusations, etc -- but 95% of the time you have much more to lose than gain from posting with your main.
A few of the risks: Making enemies with your viewpoint / metagame. Angering your corp / alliance for disagreeing with them or making them look stupid. Drawing unnecessary attention to yourself -- potential for wardecs / griefing / etc.
So, to those people who hate alts posting here, what's the point? The forum is not Eve; it could disappear tomorrow and the game would go on.
Another prominent exception would be those characters who already have a high profile and don't post controversially views.
How about not making a fool of yourself to begin with? That way it avoids the problems you mention
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.23 16:00:00 -
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I don't post with my main, i posst with my fingers
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.04.23 16:18:00 -
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Well for one, post with an alt if you want your opinions largely ignored. You have no reputation to think of and therefore are likely to argue your points in a very 'off the cuff' manner.
Also, most people who threaten you over your opinions on a forum are blowhards and rejects.
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Zee Zen
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Posted - 2007.04.23 23:39:00 -
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Ok, many valid points here making me reconsider or at least soften my view.
In the end though, a person can build up a rep almost as easily with an alt as a main.
I will firmly stand by the assertion, however, that your average player has pretty much nothing to gain from having any kind of reputation - good or bad - on the forum.
The title is a bit flamebait, but the topic is serious.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.24 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 24/04/2007 00:08:17
Originally by: Dark Shikari
This is a game. Consequences for actions on the forums take place in game. You do not need someone's real life info in order to do that.
Wrong.
What you say in the forums (except for specific forums like the Alliance summit) is OUT OF GAME. Hence by definition any action taken in game is griefing and in most other games can be a bannaable offense. Its the perfect reason to post with your alt
PS - This IS my main. The first character I made and still in use... <-----------> Keiron: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=427556&page=2
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Arkios Odymei
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2007.04.24 00:36:00 -
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The only time I ever post with an alt is when I am posting on the "Ships and Mods" forum about ship setups.
I like helping others with ship setups and learning from others at the same time, but I do not with for the info about the ships that I fly to be made public for the viewing pleasure of my Enemies / War targets.
Other than that... POST WIT URE MANE!!!1!one!1eleven
Originally by: Marcathonas Moros + huginn + bubble = super happy carnage time.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.04.24 03:01:00 -
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Uhh. Yeah. You could also, uhh, in theory (not that I do) make a GOOD reputation for your main by posting with it.
You know, by saying smart things.
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