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But anyway you miss the fundimental point. Our primary target is PIE's pride. At the moment that vessel is wounded and punctured from multiple impacts and drifting without power in the depths of some forlorn system a long way from the Throne Worlds they are pledged to defend.

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Why is the mighty edifice of the Amarrian Militias (and associated hangers on) so eager to change the battlefield?

The answer I think I'll leave as an exercise for the reader.

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Originally by: GulletSplitter

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While UK and others might be labeled a bigger threat, you have to figure at some point PIE has to shut up SF because of the incessant chatter (polite way of saying lots of propaganda) coming from SF's quarter. They may choose not to for whatever reason but they appear to be getting dinged on the net.

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Originally by: Cirale

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Edited by: Cirale on 03/05/2007 06:09:35
Hum....

I don't post much, choosing to let my guns do the talking for my opinion. But I find one point needs some clarification for the forum warriors that are PIE Inc.

We are going to crush you.

Maybe not your core members, but as an organization, you are done. It may take 6 weeks, it may take 6 months, but dispite the welcome distraction of your allies, you are in our sights, within our grasp, and fixing to feel the strong bite of our teeth. Your constant yapping on Galnet shows you know this, like the howling of prey before the kill.

Soon your allies will tire from the slaughter and obnoxious losses, soon you will be left alone in the dark, confronted with your obvious ineffectiveness, and facing the fact that we will not relent. Our commitment is absolute, and you can ask our previous targets exactly what that means.

So yap on, prey, like the desperate howling of a helpless pup in the night. Your howls have awakened the rest of your pack, but soon they will sleep again, and when they do, we shall have our prize.

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Originally by: Cirale

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Edited by: Cirale on 03/05/2007 06:09:35
Hum....

I don't post much, choosing to let my guns do the talking for my opinion. But I find one point needs some clarification for the forum warriors that are PIE Inc.

We are going to crush you.

Maybe not your core members, but as an organization, you are done. It may take 6 weeks, it may take 6 months, but dispite the welcome distraction of your allies, you are in our sights, within our grasp, and fixing to feel the strong bite of our teeth. Your constant yapping on Galnet shows you know this, like the howling of prey before the kill.

Soon your allies will tire from the slaughter and obnoxious losses, soon you will be left alone in the dark, confronted with your obvious ineffectiveness, and facing the fact that we will not relent. Our commitment is absolute, and you can ask our previous targets exactly what that means.

So yap on, prey, like the desperate howling of a helpless pup in the night. Your howls have awakened the rest of your pack, but soon they will sleep again, and when they do, we shall have our prize.

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Originally by: Archbishop

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Given the Amarrians are attempting to expand the Empire in Providence I'd think you'd be all over it given your stated mission and your actions in Mito. I guess dedication and commitment to your "cause" aren't really fractionista traits when countered by the opportunity to attack "paper tigers" and claim "victory" in a 10,000 word war diary.
Archbishop

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Originally by: Octavinus Augustus

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We need to "shut up" Star Fraction you say. That is simply impossible, I'm afraid. IGS is a free forum and people can post whatever they want, truthful or not. Star Fraction publishes their diaries and their views on the current war. Each time they celebrate their own skill and deride the abilities and motivations of their enemies. What can we do except reply with our version of the story? So the "publicity war" is pretty set.

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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen

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Although the SF's Modus Operandi is the disruption and the staining of PIE's honour on the field, little aside base partisan operations can be achieved. Yes the odd ship could be lost to careless shipping practices, BUT general peace is ensured by the Empire, offendors more often then not are vapourised by defences within the safety of high security space. The previous statements can be understood to be to be a general lack of will to locate to a more appropriate field of battle, where the main bulk of Amarrian forces can be found. I would not go so far as to call this craven cowardice, however rather than simply harp on from within lands that little can be achieved perhaps a rethink on tatics might be wise.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Humiliating PIE and dealing a blow to the pride of the collective Amarrian bloc thereby represents quite a key element in the campaign.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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So when are you going to start humiliating us?

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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You would like our 80 members to leave a favourable battlefield and come and lay siege to your 800 allies inside their castle walls? You must think us 80 titans! Its quite flattering really. But sensible strategy does not entertain such delirium.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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So when are you going to start humiliating us?

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We do it to you in space. You do it to yourselves on the IGS.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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That's odd, I never realised that being humiliated felt exactly the same being amused.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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The following day saw a general withdrawal of CVA vessels from the vicinity of Amarr Prime as they reorganised their forces and practised combined fleet ops away from the warzone. Taking the opportunity to press space superiority for the duration the Free Captains struck hard against the now isolated pilots of PIE, AM and VV and destroyed a pair of Harbinger class Battlecruisers, a Arbitrator class cruiser, 3 interceptor class frigates and a collection of tech1 rabble and shuttles and novice ships put into space by the uncoordinated PIE commanders for the duration. Seven Amarrian loyalists were summarily executed in their capsules by SF forces and we suffered the loss of a single Blackbird Class EW cruiser in return.

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Black Sunday

Then came the worst 24 hours of the war for Star Fraction with the CVA returning in force and providing battlefield commissar command to their otherwise uncoordinated allied levies and basing from Ashab system to counterattack SF dominance of Amarr Prime. We found the limit of usefulness for earlier tactics and combined fire and direct confrontation of the larger Amarrian fleets and suffered a day of reversals and defeats that led to the loss of 2 Dominix Class Battleships, a Vagabond Class Heavy Assault Cruiser, a Curse Class Recon Cruiser, and 4 Interceptor class frigates while destroying only 2 enemy Battlecruisers, 2 Arbitrator class Cruisers, and 3 Malediction class interceptors in return. Heavy casualties for the Free Captains and our crew û the war was getting bitter.

And worse yet, the Amarrian forces had now come to dominate space command in Amarr system for extended periods and were routinely patrolling the stargates and stations to drive home their advantage. For the first time in the war we were left with no real answer to the loyalist numerical strength and organisation and it was time to go back to the drawing board find an answer to this tactical dilemma.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Asymmetric Warfare rides again

Free Captains are nothing if not resourceful however, and the answer wasnÆt long in coming. Star Fraction has prided itself on innovation and flexibility and our long wars on the 0.0 frontier and such famed conflicts as the now legendary Great Northern War had prepared our commanders and strategists for the alternation in patterns and patrol dynamics required to neutralise the heavy fleet advantage of the CVA backed Amarrian loyalists in the Throne Worlds.

Light raiding wolfpacks were the solution! The Star Fraction industrial backbone provides almost limitless numbers of the finest high technology frigate hulls including Crow and Taranis class interceptors, Jaguar and Stiletto, Ishkur and Hawk and a broad range of tech2 modules and equipment required to make these vessels truly deadly and so it was the case that we had all the weaponry we needed to strike back against the cumbersome beast of Amarrian fleet supremacy and dance aside from their weight in numbers and drive the precision dagger of our raiding wolfpack deep into the breast of their unwary number elsewhere.

When we were outnumbered we would counterattack with massed frigate wings to wreak havoc in the enemy rear areas. Where we had the advantage we would upship to heavy raiders and strike fast without warning. It was tactical flexibility at its finest and made possible by the huge logistical planning undertaken by campaign planners well before the onset of the war.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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At last, some refreshing honesty from the factionistas over their war aims.

I'll be sure to quote this again in six months when PIE is still around.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Every time we fight a major battle that has no PIE involvement and every day that passes with PIE personalities docked and passive or a long long way away from the Empire they are pledged to protect is a little victory for the war aims.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Would you like the moon on a stick as well?

We are already fighting a war against an Amarrian bloc with 10x our memberbase that has boasted at length of its industrial capability and local allies and impregnable status in Providence.

You would like our 80 members to leave a favourable battlefield and come and lay siege to your 800 allies inside their castle walls? You must think us 80 titans! Its quite flattering really. But sensible strategy does not entertain such delirium.

Let me paint a picture for you in this vein...

We are 80 warrior-heroes come to teach humility and fear to the conceit of Amarrian capsuleer pride. We know that the Amarrian loyalist army outnumbers us greatly and is more or less impossible to touch inside your castle. So how do we fight?

Answer we have to choose the battlefield that offsets the numerical disadvantage and allows us to win. In this case we have picked a particularly loud and obnoxious (but not terribly effective) member of your armies "nobility", kidnapped him from a brothel in town and now we've staked him out below the crest off a hillside a couple of miles from the castle and are slowly torturing him to death so his screams and suffering rattle the morale of the loyalist forces and encourage his brethen to attempt rash acts of rescue.

Already some loyalists have had enough and prefering neither to listen to the screams nor try a rescue have put cotton wool in their ears and deserted the walls.

The obnoxious "noble" is PIE's pride.
The loyalist army is the Amarrian bloc.
The deserters are Vigilia Valeria

But as long as our captive keeps bleating and pleading we choose the ground of the fighting and the Amarrians must either listen to a comrade's screams, come and try to end the suffering, or blot out the sound and deny Amarrian unity with stops in their ears and backs turned.

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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen

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Then you choose poor ground.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen

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Then you choose poor ground.

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The statistics tell another story.

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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen

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I have yet to see PIE's disbandment.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Originally by: Kallanagh Tellen

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I have yet to see PIE's disbandment.

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And you never will. You'll see an organisation with pride and bitterness and nothing else and Archbishop making sermons. That will never change. What will change (and has already begun to change significantly) is the reputation of this loyalist "paper tiger" - in the future people will know precisely what it is capable of achieving. Posts on galnet.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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That's quite a statement coming from someone with such a reputation for verbosity and underachievement.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Early deployment of this tactic saw immediate improvements with the first raid costing us 5 single seat tech2 frigates (immediately replaced from our factories that produce 24 of each a week) while scoring in turn the destruction of a CVA Tempest Class battleship, and costing the Caldari Legionaries of CAIN a Drake class Battlecruiser, A Curse Class Recon cruiser, Vexor class cruiser and managing to trap and execute a lone PIE captain Udyr Vulpayne, who was sent screaming to the cloning bays by SF ace Sakura Nihil.

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It was very noticeable that the increased number of interceptor class vessels in theatre was having a deeply detrimental effect on the life expectancy of loyalist capsuleers û and a rare thing for an enemy to escape with implants and current mortality from the wreckage of ships falling to our raiders. A minor but significant morale hit, and definitive an innovation that these religious zealots disliked intensely.

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Vigilia Valeria out of the war

Mediocre fleet performance and a generally minor participation level with all accomplishments of note appearing on the backs of more organised and capable allies. It came as no great surprise to discover that Vigilia Valeria was the first major alliance level casualty of the fighting allowing their concord wardec to lapse without re declaration in the third week of the war. No public notification was made of their failure to keep their leaders proud boast however, but letÆs take a moment to remind ourselves of the words spoken:

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ôA few days ago the anarchists of The Star Fraction have declared war on our allies, PIE Inc. This unprovoked aggression cannot and will not be tolerated. For this reason, as of today, the Vigilia Valeria Alliance [-VV-] has opened hostilities towards The Star Fraction. The state of war will be maintained until such time as The Star Fraction retreat from Amarr, retract their war or cease to threaten normal trade and traffic in Amarr. ûGazon, 1st Praetorian Guardö

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Vigilia Valeria vessels crept quietly back to the mission-running areas in Misaba and left the war and their oathÆs unfinished a long way from the Throne Worlds. Amarrian Unity at its best û SF vessels still defiantly fighting the good fight in Amarr and harrying all declared Amarrian loyalists with increasing violence and deadly precision and the war against PIE still very much declared and in force.

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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine

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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 03/05/2007 13:18:19

Originally by: Rodj Blake

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That's quite a statement coming from someone with such a reputation for verbosity and underachievement.

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I'm a better warrior than you Rodj. Maybe we could prove it with a battleship duel? Oh wait PIE doesn't allow such things
(and before you bleat about how unfair it is that you have to fly amarr and I just need to tank EM/Thermal. I only fly Gallente and you need to tank kinetic and thermal. Fair is fair)

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Hum....

I don't post much, choosing to let my guns do the talking for my opinion. But I find one point needs some clarification for the forum warriors that are PIE Inc.

We are going to crush you.

Maybe not your core members, but as an organization, you are done. It may take 6 weeks, it may take 6 months, but dispite the welcome distraction of your allies, you are in our sights, within our grasp, and fixing to feel the strong bite of our teeth. Your constant yapping on Galnet shows you know this, like the howling of prey before the kill.

Soon your allies will tire from the slaughter and obnoxious losses, soon you will be left alone in the dark, confronted with your obvious ineffectiveness, and facing the fact that we will not relent. Our commitment is absolute, and you can ask our previous targets exactly what that means.

So yap on, prey, like the desperate howling of a helpless pup in the night. Your howls have awakened the rest of your pack, but soon they will sleep again, and when they do, we shall have our prize.

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Originally by: Rodj Blake

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Or could it be that -VV- decided that SF wasn't such a threat after all? SF are not currently threatening normal trade and traffic (and they never were, unless you count blocking the docking the bay as a threat to trade) in Amarr, so that criterion for withdrawing the declaration appears to have been met.

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